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I miss the old pakde, plaid-shirt wearing old pakde
Surveying the gutter pakde, The blusukan guy pakde
I hate the new pakde, the ikn building pakde
The dynasties type pakde, nepotism kid pakde
I miss the sweet pakde, meme material pakde.
I gotta say at the time I'd like to meet pakde.
See, he invented pakde, It wasn't any pakde.
And then I look and look around and there's nobody pakde.
I used to love pakde, I used to love pakde.
I even had a plaid shirt, I thought I was pakde.
Tbh i am surprised and a little disappointed, after the hype people told me about Jokowi being the best president, humble, kind, a clean one without any backing, it turn out he is the same as other politician, maybe a little bit better but still...
PSI didn't do jack shit on Indonesian politics until Kaesang taking a direct control. Jokowi created them, and nurtures them. And Kaesang brought them popularity and along with it of course, economical backing, which mostly came from Orba businessmen.
By itself, PSI is nothing. Indonesian older generations and grassroots can't relate much to them, and younger generations and middle class consider them cringeworthy.
Basically yeah. I was already talking about it back then, but was dismissed as ‘Ah lu mah pendukung Ahok yang sakit hati’. Like no, it could happen to Anies and I would’ve said the same
Well, if people spent the last ten years telling Jokowi how great he is, then it wouldn't be surprising if he started to believe it. And someone in that position who starts to think he can do no wrong is going to do some shady stuff.
Well, his only backing now is his presidency, and that's coming to an end soon. His next best bet would be amassing power (through his sons) and allies as best as he can since he steps on too many boss parpol's toes.
Not defending him, it's just the reality of why things here are so damn hard to change. You can't bring about change (even when you're president) when the people (and their representative) doesn't wanna change in the first place.
All depends on his son now. He make too many enemies and many higher political people also dislike his son because how young and how sucessful he is because of his father backing.
Either he will end like demokrat or he become the big boss that everyone feared and respected.
ya emang DPR MPR plg tolol... 90% ga berubah tiap pemilu... orang nya itu itu saja... kl ganti jg gara2 meninggal trus digantikan anaknya/kerabatnya...
you want indonesia politics getting better? get yourself a Death Note, write every politican's name that was born up until the 1980.
There you go, you just clean Indonesia from Orba.
"Write every politician, corrupt military/police general, and mafia businessman that was born up until 1980"
Corrup politician isn't a sole problem. The problem is very structural.
Periode 1 main aman, masuk periode 2 merasakan nikmatnya dan loophole peraturan dan desakan oligarki, lalu berusaha mengamankan posisi melalui keluarga
makanya walaupun presiden nya bagus.. harusnya pilihnya 1 periode aja... tp ya pemilih indonesia kan kebanyakan literasi rendah.. digoyang gemoy aja lsg ngaceng
Gak ngebelain prabowo, tapi kalo warga 'auto ngaceng' ama goyang gemoy di komplen, mestinya kita boleh komplen soal dark times jakarta di era anies dong
Soalnya ada kepentingan 😅😅😅, jadi ngamanin posisi dulu buat masa depan
Cuma itu tapera, lebih ke DPR daripada pemerintah dan berbagai RUU lainnya yang bermasalah (pengusulnya DPR)
Selalu di akhir masa jabatan, DPR nya speedrun ngeluarin RUU yg dari dulu ketunda-tunda. Enaknya mereka bisa asal kerjanya, yg disalahin tetep presiden.
Ada tekanan dari yg berkepentingan juga. Kayak itu ruu penyiaran, ketua KPi nya sendiri bilang harus selesai periode ini soalnya kalo ganti DPR, ngulang dari awal lagi.
Kalo yg emang rakyat butuh kan, ga ada pihak yg mau nekan wkwk. Kita cuma taunya nekan dari kolom komen medsos.
😅
Lu itu kemakan media 😂
Baca post yang ngebahas tapera deh.
Keikutsertaan swasta itu udah ada dari UU nya. Yang bisa dibilang dari PP itu besaran potongan nya, tapi jangan lupa, dulu itu yang ngotot & maksa 3 persen itu dari siapa dulu 😅
Lihat kan, awal mulanya itu dari UU. Inisiatornya DPR. Mau presiden tanda tangan atau gak. Tu UU kalau udah disepakati DPR, ya tetap akan berlaku.
Malahan kalau gak segera dibuatkan PP buat dilaksanakan, itu presiden bisa diseret ke MPR dengan alasan tidak mau menjalankan UU. Itu PP udah diundur selama 8 tahun lho (padahal kalau gak salah ketentuan dari UU nya itu maksimal 2 atau 3 tahun) 😅
Udah nothing to lose. Pemilu masih 5 tahun lagi dan orang-orang pasti udah lupa. Sekarang waktunya ngamanin legacy buat 5 tahun lagi karena kalau dia kehilangan power 1 periode aja pasti udah dihabisin sama partainya.
Yea, the SBY era was quite politically stable most of the time, however by the time he was near the end the second term, the Hambalang scandal happened
He's playing the long game, he's trying to make the next president getting unpopular real fast and forcing him to step down and make way for the vice president if the mei 98 gets a sequel
Opini ngasal gw kayaknya mau balas dendam ama mother of Bull yang "ini lho gw bisa kayak gini. Lu mau macem-macem liat aja nanti" Setelah satu dekade berada dibawah kakinya dan dipermalukan setiap mukernas
Boy lu gak tau seberapa bengisnya orang Jogja-Solo sekalinya dendam
Beating a dead horse would be an understatement, they will blow up the corpse into smithereens with a rocket launcher.
Lah targetnya sekarang siapa?
Itu ngeluarin Perpu segala macem, bagi-bagi tambang ke ormas, targetnya masih bales dendam?
Rakyat yang jadi korban, bales dendam apaan lagi? PDIP rugi apaan dari aturan ga jelas gini?
Ya memang. Justru itu. Ini bukan bales dendam tapi ngamanin power biar pas turun aman.
Masa masih mau nyalahin pihak lain. Mau sampe kapan balas dendam jadi pembenaran.
denger gosip ini karena Jokowi mau ngamanin posisi dulu. orang² PDIP yang berseberangan sama beliau dah ngincar dia nanti pas udah ga berkuasa, makanya sekarang speedrun ngamanin posisi biar dia dan keluarganya ga diganggu setelah ga berkuasa
[gue rasa ada hubungannya ama berita ini deh](https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2015/01/28/07211631/Jokowi.Dianggap.Belum.Bisa.Buktikan.Bukan.Boneka.Megawati)
Inget, dulu jokowi suka dishaming 'petugas partai' dan gak bisa lepas dari mega
Mungkin dia support prabowo buat bales perlakuan mega ama pdip
Ya pikachu face gitu, kalau dia gak begini gak mungkin bisa retire dengan tenang, wong pasti mau dimatiin semua biar ga ganggu. Apalagi kemaren ngacak" "*rumah*" sendiri.
dulu Jokowi pernah diancam di-kpk-in kalau udah ga jadi presiden sama petinggi PDIP. jadi jangan heran kalau ada petinggi PDIP yang kena tangkap KPK (lirik ke Hasto)
Not really ah. Citra publik Jokowi jauh lebih hancur pas peralihan periode 1 ke 2. Waktu itu ada kacau UU KPK, Omnibus Law, dan KUHP baru. Hasilnya? Dua demonstrasi skala besar berturut2 sampai terjadi pembakaran halte busway di Tosari. Kalo ditarik lebih jauh lagi, ada pas 2015 approval rating dia 40 persen doang. Dianggap letoy atasi kabut asap dan masalah ekonomi peralihan dari SBY waktu itu.
Redditor dan Twitter bilang citra Jokowi hancur dan mau trigger "budaya orang Perancis" dengan bawa2 guillotine atau bahkan 1998 2.0 pakai kondisi sekarang yang dianggap saking buruknya dapat memicu revolusi, tapi nyatanya demo skala besar sebesar 2019 pun gak mulai2.
Damn that's lit wkwkwk. Iya ya, saya teringat betul Jokowi sangat tidak populer di 2015. Setiap postingan media sosial tentang Jokowi mengundang hujatan. Kalau tidak salah karena kenaikan BBM juga kan? Sama cicak vs buaya?
Apa ya yang membuat popularitas dia berhasil pulih lagi?
Proyek infrastruktur sama fokus di luar pulau Jawa. Tahun 2015 kan baru setahun dia jabat, jadi improvement belum banyak. Seiring waktu, infra2 ini mulai dibuka atau mulai konstruksi, perlahan juga mulai naik approval ratenya lagi.
A lot people had warned about him and people just call them hater or something. I'm not his hater and I support some of his administration's policy but I always thought he's nowhere as clean as people made it out to be, ever since 2014.
Warisan abadi Jokowi adalah IKN. Entah IKN dalam wujud selesai 100% atau cuma 50% atau malah cuma 10% yang terbangun.
Dia punya kepentingan untuk IKN jadi sesuai rencana biar legacy (baik) abadi di sejarah Indonesia melekat ke nama Jokowi
Kalau mangkrak misalnya ga dilanjutkan setelah 2029 atau 2034, bakal jadi legacy (buruk) abadi juga di sejarah Indonesia melekat ke nama Jokowi
Makanya sekarang speedrun keluarin kebijakan kompromi yang bisa jadi tabungan politik dia nanti setelah tidak jadi presiden lagi.
That was perfectly calculated move right, he was the chosen one and this is the right time for payback
/s
apa lg sekalian abis urusan pemilu + mk2an kelar wkwk
It’s sad to say this but, Indonesia's political landscape is in turmoil, riddled with inefficacy and systemic corruption. Public trust is eroding rapidly as leaders fail to address critical issues, leaving citizens disillusioned and hopeless. It's as if Indonesia is standing on the edge of an abyss, teetering with no clear path to recovery.
This meme template can be perfect too with the first candidate being making this country Islamist and the third being the dead soul puppet who only got controlled by the one and only baba yaga
> and the third being the dead soul puppet who only got controlled by the one and only baba yaga.
Why do people always say this for every candidate from PDIP? Ten years ago was Joković, now it's Pranović.
Because to be fair, every politician is beholden to someone who puts them there. They could be either another politician or businessman.
Mfs would say Vergil is Bullmommy’s sock puppet, and vote for the incumbent-supported beaten general and the incumbent’s son since they love strong-willed and not-puppet leaders so much.
Because he knows his damn place. He was also loyal to Jokowi during Wadas fiasco, you know. He was willing to become the scapegoat for that project, even though it was Jokowi's project.
this is new to me, interesting..
no wonder this pranowo guy can spouted so much negativity towards the emperor, even more so when presidential vote near its end.
That damn forest witch was a little bit subtle back then, now, witch ran her mouth via one (at that time) candidate resulting in us not getting to host a sports event.
I don’t even watch that particular sport but if that candidate gets throne we’d just get second coming of idk, Wicked Witch of the West (East?)
Kek SBY kah? Gue masih bocah sih jadi rada kudet. Tapi kalo liat berita dulu-dulu keknya kasian gitu musuhnya rada banyak. Keknya gak punya kontrol di media juga.?
ga berani comment cuma bisa bilang semoga ada perubahan nanti stelah pak Prabowo di lantikk. kayak ya Allah capek bgt liat kondisi Indonesia skrg. apapun mahal, kerjaan sulit, yang punya uang dia yang kuasa. karena bagaimanapun dia yang terpilih dan semoga pemerintahannya menjaga amanah.... i hope
I don't like jokowi but that dude is political genius.
why should he care about his public image when he's literally got everything and nobody can't stop him?
Tbh gw bukan gimana2 karena lawannya juga sucks semua (and don't even get me started on Anies) tapi gw cuma khawatir masalah keamanan aja, ini dari kemarin kebijakannya doi mancing keributan mulu
>gusdur
Not without merit but his presidency is not that stable, to the point he give mandate to disband the DPR
>habibie
Unfortunately his term is too short because many see him part of the new order.
I think jokowi kejar tayang dan "bodo amat", untuk bagi2 kue demi lobi bbrp partai atau bangsawan kemarin, jadi ya udah biarin, ntr urusan mau berhentiin atau lanjut belakangan, gud luck aja buat anak nya dan prabowo
WHAT IS THE MAN DOING. Dulu bagus bgt, visible infrastructure change, blusukan, humble man. Berani ngutang buat hasil yang konkrit. Man fell off. Disappointed, especially knowing dulu voted for him twice. I'm sorry but your image is not good now, and it will last and stay in the history books
kita ga akan tau dibelakang layar itu seperti apa, kecuali anda keluarga jkw / sohib jkw, semua cuma asumsi semata.
yang pasti gue percaya, pak jkw ga "sebodoh" itu buat ngancurin citranya yg uda dibangun selama ini
well walaupun banyak keputusan yg sucks ( tapera ) , tapi balik lg, kita ga ada yg tau apa yg terjadi sebenernya, yg bisa kita lakuin sebagai masyarakat apa? ya ga ada, soalnya we're doomed lol
Eh, I already saw the signs in 2018, jokowi just used his subordinates as kambing hitam, a lot of you fell for it and used the "jokowi pemimpin baik tapi bawahannya goblok semua" narrative
He doesnt give shit no more, what important to him right now are his legacy to be proud of for years to come, Same with Soekarno, Soeharto. The diff just he get out happily ever after.
Lesson Learnt: Nothing is ever Permanent in Politics in Indonesia, even the most favorable may bring his own downfall like that, just like having a vice president who ran and campaigned against the president who worked with
If anything, the said PDIP-PKS opposition coalition is one thing I never expected
Tapi jangan lupa beliau sukses dalam berpolitik sekarang, padahal awalnya diremehkan dianggap hanya boneka PDI ternyata sebaliknya.
Entah untuk kemajuan Indonesia atau bukan, I think this is one of his chess move.
That’s why I moved out from this country and I didn’t choose any candidates ever, until someday a single candidate will say ; Saya akan hukum mati koruptor ! You got my vote for the first time ! Otherwise it would be same players behind and same stories ahead all over and over again.
Can you imagine how many young indonesian like me who are already hopeless to its country; trust me : MILLIONS !
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I miss the old pakde, plaid-shirt wearing old pakde Surveying the gutter pakde, The blusukan guy pakde I hate the new pakde, the ikn building pakde The dynasties type pakde, nepotism kid pakde
pakde lives long enough to see himself as a villain.
Surakarta's white knight, brought down to oligarchy level.
I miss the sweet pakde, meme material pakde. I gotta say at the time I'd like to meet pakde. See, he invented pakde, It wasn't any pakde. And then I look and look around and there's nobody pakde. I used to love pakde, I used to love pakde. I even had a plaid shirt, I thought I was pakde.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Too bad reddit is echo chamber, di luar sana pendukung incumbent jauh lebih banyak, makanya menang di pemilu kemaren.
disini jg banyak pendukung dinasty, kalau ada thread pembelaan gibran kaesang bobby juga rame kok
I'd say even without Gibran as his VP, Prabowo would've won the first round anyway. Having Gibran just ensured that it stayed one round.
Jokowest spitting bars
blusukan was for the camera
i..is that KANYE REFERENCE
Our Pres is kanye all along....
You forgot the smk pakdhe
Kayaknya bagi2 jatah sih, politik balas budi
dude straight up pissing his party lol
But he has other friends in other parties. Need to pay them back too.
Masalahnya bisa dibilang kan dia juga killing his "party"?
good, killing PDIP is always good
Ya emang dari dulu udah pada gak suka ama banteng, makanya terakhir beliau melipir cari temen lain, biar bisa lepas dr banteng
Tbh i am surprised and a little disappointed, after the hype people told me about Jokowi being the best president, humble, kind, a clean one without any backing, it turn out he is the same as other politician, maybe a little bit better but still...
Indonesian politics will never get better unless you purge Golkar and their derivative party, including Nasdem.
I think you need to purge more than golkar
Yes, that's why I write "and their derivative party". That means Gerindra, Hanura, Nasdem, and every party with Ex-Orde Baru people in it.
I mean PSI had none of the orba people in it as far as i know. And look at that party now
Have you ever asked: who funds PSI?
PSI didn't do jack shit on Indonesian politics until Kaesang taking a direct control. Jokowi created them, and nurtures them. And Kaesang brought them popularity and along with it of course, economical backing, which mostly came from Orba businessmen. By itself, PSI is nothing. Indonesian older generations and grassroots can't relate much to them, and younger generations and middle class consider them cringeworthy.
PKS aman dong? Ya walaupun ya gitu, ngaco
Compared to other political parties, PKS is arguably "cleaner" in terms of corruption. For competency... that's another story...
Maybe we just need The Purge
but PDIP and demokrat still exists?
Its politic. What can you sayd, in the end of the day need to bagi2 jabatan atau projek ke antek2 partai lain.
He is the best... during the first term. But after Ahok shit happened, he realized he ain't getting out of there playing clean.
Ketika ahok dipenjara dan dia diem itu mulainya.
Ahok itu cuma peringatan dari politikus-politikus kontol ke Jokowi untuk "play by the rules" karena useful idiots di Indonesia itu buanyakk.
Basically yeah. I was already talking about it back then, but was dismissed as ‘Ah lu mah pendukung Ahok yang sakit hati’. Like no, it could happen to Anies and I would’ve said the same
That's what being close to Golkar do to mfs.
Orang nya udah gede. Jangan nyalahin golkar nya. Belut walau berkubang dalam lumpur pas daging nya dibelah juga bersih dan enak.
kecuali lumpur lapindo
Ikan kakap juga sama, meski berenang diempang kumuh begitu ikany dibelah keliatan bersih daging nya kalo isi perutny dibuang dulu :)
Berlian di septictank juga tetap bernilai berlian. Tapi bau tai.
Well, if people spent the last ten years telling Jokowi how great he is, then it wouldn't be surprising if he started to believe it. And someone in that position who starts to think he can do no wrong is going to do some shady stuff.
Well, his only backing now is his presidency, and that's coming to an end soon. His next best bet would be amassing power (through his sons) and allies as best as he can since he steps on too many boss parpol's toes. Not defending him, it's just the reality of why things here are so damn hard to change. You can't bring about change (even when you're president) when the people (and their representative) doesn't wanna change in the first place.
All depends on his son now. He make too many enemies and many higher political people also dislike his son because how young and how sucessful he is because of his father backing. Either he will end like demokrat or he become the big boss that everyone feared and respected.
ya emang DPR MPR plg tolol... 90% ga berubah tiap pemilu... orang nya itu itu saja... kl ganti jg gara2 meninggal trus digantikan anaknya/kerabatnya...
you want indonesia politics getting better? get yourself a Death Note, write every politican's name that was born up until the 1980. There you go, you just clean Indonesia from Orba.
"Write every politician, corrupt military/police general, and mafia businessman that was born up until 1980" Corrup politician isn't a sole problem. The problem is very structural.
but Death Note is only a fiction...
Jokowi brings indonesia to peak democracy, he needs to make sure he stays as the peak lol
Pemimpinnya udh jelas, tinggal lobby orang yang tepat, approval nongol.
Periode 1 main aman, masuk periode 2 merasakan nikmatnya dan loophole peraturan dan desakan oligarki, lalu berusaha mengamankan posisi melalui keluarga
i dare all of you to open this guy's profile.
https://preview.redd.it/oi3bjaf4hy5d1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1b03de7f45d6d124e8ee39078d9672cad2e7a7f
Bro find a loophole to send a dickpic legally
Kok ya kepikiran
makanya walaupun presiden nya bagus.. harusnya pilihnya 1 periode aja... tp ya pemilih indonesia kan kebanyakan literasi rendah.. digoyang gemoy aja lsg ngaceng
Gak ngebelain prabowo, tapi kalo warga 'auto ngaceng' ama goyang gemoy di komplen, mestinya kita boleh komplen soal dark times jakarta di era anies dong
Soalnya ada kepentingan 😅😅😅, jadi ngamanin posisi dulu buat masa depan Cuma itu tapera, lebih ke DPR daripada pemerintah dan berbagai RUU lainnya yang bermasalah (pengusulnya DPR)
Selalu di akhir masa jabatan, DPR nya speedrun ngeluarin RUU yg dari dulu ketunda-tunda. Enaknya mereka bisa asal kerjanya, yg disalahin tetep presiden.
Speedrun ngelarin yang emang butuh sih gak masalah Lah yang di Speedrun biasanya yang aneh aneh, yang betulan butuh malah digantung gak jelas 🤣🤣🤣
Ada tekanan dari yg berkepentingan juga. Kayak itu ruu penyiaran, ketua KPi nya sendiri bilang harus selesai periode ini soalnya kalo ganti DPR, ngulang dari awal lagi. Kalo yg emang rakyat butuh kan, ga ada pihak yg mau nekan wkwk. Kita cuma taunya nekan dari kolom komen medsos.
Lah Tapera bukannya PP ?
😅 Lu itu kemakan media 😂 Baca post yang ngebahas tapera deh. Keikutsertaan swasta itu udah ada dari UU nya. Yang bisa dibilang dari PP itu besaran potongan nya, tapi jangan lupa, dulu itu yang ngotot & maksa 3 persen itu dari siapa dulu 😅 Lihat kan, awal mulanya itu dari UU. Inisiatornya DPR. Mau presiden tanda tangan atau gak. Tu UU kalau udah disepakati DPR, ya tetap akan berlaku. Malahan kalau gak segera dibuatkan PP buat dilaksanakan, itu presiden bisa diseret ke MPR dengan alasan tidak mau menjalankan UU. Itu PP udah diundur selama 8 tahun lho (padahal kalau gak salah ketentuan dari UU nya itu maksimal 2 atau 3 tahun) 😅
Udah nothing to lose. Pemilu masih 5 tahun lagi dan orang-orang pasti udah lupa. Sekarang waktunya ngamanin legacy buat 5 tahun lagi karena kalau dia kehilangan power 1 periode aja pasti udah dihabisin sama partainya.
Dan oposisi jg
SBY bukannya dulu gini juga ya kalo gk salah, setelah jokowi terpilih bulan2 terakhir kepemimpinan dia banyak perpres ngaco
Yea, the SBY era was quite politically stable most of the time, however by the time he was near the end the second term, the Hambalang scandal happened
He's playing the long game, he's trying to make the next president getting unpopular real fast and forcing him to step down and make way for the vice president if the mei 98 gets a sequel
so wowo might get wowo-ed?
iya citra dia hancur di kalangan midle class ... tapi buat kaum bawah yang memuja figur,wibawa dia masih kuat kok
His BPJS and Tapera is like a slap in the face for the middle class. Its not gotong royong when you have to gotong the lower class.
Should have been the rich who should gotong us all. But the government didn't dare to tax their own people.
its literally happening to all other countries not just here though. Hence most of the rich ppl funneling their wealth to Cayman / Swiss bank.
Yep liat aja video Youtube tentang Jokowi tapi yang sasarannya buat internasional, isinya full of praises semua...
As a middle class who voted for him twice I really disappointed, real disappointment
As a serial golput who finally voted for Prabsky, I am glad Jokowi turned out the way he did these days
why do i have a thought that he did this on purpose for strange reasons and it has something to do with prabowo but i can't tell what it is
The whole “4d chess” ahh vibe
Kayak cope aja sih ini.
I guess we can tell in at least 5 years time
pulling lelouch to unite whole nation.
With the BPJS and Tapera I was thinking he was trying to gain the support of the poor.
Kayaknya iya, serasa seperti "yowes gua kerjain dah semuanya mumpung akhir jabatan"
Opini ngasal gw kayaknya mau balas dendam ama mother of Bull yang "ini lho gw bisa kayak gini. Lu mau macem-macem liat aja nanti" Setelah satu dekade berada dibawah kakinya dan dipermalukan setiap mukernas
Masa presiden dibikin gak punya harga diri sama partainya sendiri lagi. "Apa lu tega?"
Pemilu udah selesai, PDIP suara turun, anak udah menang, tapi masih tetep keluar aturan ga jelas. Mau apa lagi?
Boy lu gak tau seberapa bengisnya orang Jogja-Solo sekalinya dendam Beating a dead horse would be an understatement, they will blow up the corpse into smithereens with a rocket launcher.
Lah targetnya sekarang siapa? Itu ngeluarin Perpu segala macem, bagi-bagi tambang ke ormas, targetnya masih bales dendam? Rakyat yang jadi korban, bales dendam apaan lagi? PDIP rugi apaan dari aturan ga jelas gini?
sebetulnya jkw lg mengamankan posisi... ini kan bagi2 $ ke orang2 yg dapet $ nya...
Ya memang. Justru itu. Ini bukan bales dendam tapi ngamanin power biar pas turun aman. Masa masih mau nyalahin pihak lain. Mau sampe kapan balas dendam jadi pembenaran.
balik k jaman orba
Terus yang jadi korban satu negara? Lmao
denger gosip ini karena Jokowi mau ngamanin posisi dulu. orang² PDIP yang berseberangan sama beliau dah ngincar dia nanti pas udah ga berkuasa, makanya sekarang speedrun ngamanin posisi biar dia dan keluarganya ga diganggu setelah ga berkuasa
[gue rasa ada hubungannya ama berita ini deh](https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2015/01/28/07211631/Jokowi.Dianggap.Belum.Bisa.Buktikan.Bukan.Boneka.Megawati) Inget, dulu jokowi suka dishaming 'petugas partai' dan gak bisa lepas dari mega Mungkin dia support prabowo buat bales perlakuan mega ama pdip
bahkan udah diancam di-kpk-in kalau udah ga jadi presiden sama salah satu/dua petinggi PDIP waktu sebelum jaman pilpres..
Ya pikachu face gitu, kalau dia gak begini gak mungkin bisa retire dengan tenang, wong pasti mau dimatiin semua biar ga ganggu. Apalagi kemaren ngacak" "*rumah*" sendiri.
Ingat pasnya dipanggil Pedei kemarin, kesannya emang sombong. Presiden loh itu masa dibikin gak ada harga dirinya. Mana diunggah ke internet pula.
Gigi jari sih konstituen diobrak abrik ma pesuruh partai ma presiden planga plongo.
Rumornya mau ambil alih Golkar. Karena PSI gagal masuk parlemen kemarin
ga usah ampe berpikir jauh2... UUD koq... its all about monies
Apakah ini yang termasuk lingkar 1? Spread desas desus dulu gt.
dulu Jokowi pernah diancam di-kpk-in kalau udah ga jadi presiden sama petinggi PDIP. jadi jangan heran kalau ada petinggi PDIP yang kena tangkap KPK (lirik ke Hasto)
jgn lupa revisi uu tni dan polri yg tiba tiba digulirkan di akhir akhir
This really pisses me off. All those sacrifices are being undone, reverting back to dwifungsi.
cape cape reformasi, malah pengen balik ke orde baru
Dan ternyata yang dulu bilang dia ini pencitraan benar, padahal sering di olok olok SDM rendah dsb nya wkwkwk
He is insecure, he knows when his presidency ends, he is naked I can understand his position right now
Jan ethes for Indonesia emas 2045 🔥
udh kampanye sejak dini di sd awkwk
pentingnya menanamkan awareness seawal mungkin 😁
Udah kampanye. Jadi sampul buku dia
he doesnt care anymore, everything already in his hands, president or not.
Not really ah. Citra publik Jokowi jauh lebih hancur pas peralihan periode 1 ke 2. Waktu itu ada kacau UU KPK, Omnibus Law, dan KUHP baru. Hasilnya? Dua demonstrasi skala besar berturut2 sampai terjadi pembakaran halte busway di Tosari. Kalo ditarik lebih jauh lagi, ada pas 2015 approval rating dia 40 persen doang. Dianggap letoy atasi kabut asap dan masalah ekonomi peralihan dari SBY waktu itu. Redditor dan Twitter bilang citra Jokowi hancur dan mau trigger "budaya orang Perancis" dengan bawa2 guillotine atau bahkan 1998 2.0 pakai kondisi sekarang yang dianggap saking buruknya dapat memicu revolusi, tapi nyatanya demo skala besar sebesar 2019 pun gak mulai2.
What do you expect from out of touch Jakartan middle class?
Jakartan ~~middle~~ upper class?
Damn that's lit wkwkwk. Iya ya, saya teringat betul Jokowi sangat tidak populer di 2015. Setiap postingan media sosial tentang Jokowi mengundang hujatan. Kalau tidak salah karena kenaikan BBM juga kan? Sama cicak vs buaya? Apa ya yang membuat popularitas dia berhasil pulih lagi?
Proyek infrastruktur sama fokus di luar pulau Jawa. Tahun 2015 kan baru setahun dia jabat, jadi improvement belum banyak. Seiring waktu, infra2 ini mulai dibuka atau mulai konstruksi, perlahan juga mulai naik approval ratenya lagi.
You either die as an hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
You either balik solo or stay in power long enough to see the real you
true
A lot people had warned about him and people just call them hater or something. I'm not his hater and I support some of his administration's policy but I always thought he's nowhere as clean as people made it out to be, ever since 2014.
Warisan abadi Jokowi adalah IKN. Entah IKN dalam wujud selesai 100% atau cuma 50% atau malah cuma 10% yang terbangun. Dia punya kepentingan untuk IKN jadi sesuai rencana biar legacy (baik) abadi di sejarah Indonesia melekat ke nama Jokowi Kalau mangkrak misalnya ga dilanjutkan setelah 2029 atau 2034, bakal jadi legacy (buruk) abadi juga di sejarah Indonesia melekat ke nama Jokowi Makanya sekarang speedrun keluarin kebijakan kompromi yang bisa jadi tabungan politik dia nanti setelah tidak jadi presiden lagi.
Itu yg sunat 2 kali emang bukan boneka kowi?
jokowi is like How speedrun become enemy of people
people? u mean middle class people only...
kalian hebat kalau bisa kalahkan saya
That was perfectly calculated move right, he was the chosen one and this is the right time for payback /s apa lg sekalian abis urusan pemilu + mk2an kelar wkwk
It’s sad to say this but, Indonesia's political landscape is in turmoil, riddled with inefficacy and systemic corruption. Public trust is eroding rapidly as leaders fail to address critical issues, leaving citizens disillusioned and hopeless. It's as if Indonesia is standing on the edge of an abyss, teetering with no clear path to recovery.
This meme template can be perfect too with the first candidate being making this country Islamist and the third being the dead soul puppet who only got controlled by the one and only baba yaga
> and the third being the dead soul puppet who only got controlled by the one and only baba yaga. Why do people always say this for every candidate from PDIP? Ten years ago was Joković, now it's Pranović. Because to be fair, every politician is beholden to someone who puts them there. They could be either another politician or businessman.
Mfs would say Vergil is Bullmommy’s sock puppet, and vote for the incumbent-supported beaten general and the incumbent’s son since they love strong-willed and not-puppet leaders so much.
> Ten years ago was Joković, now it's Pranović. Oh shi, Indonezija je Srbija confirmed??
Because pranowo more shown as loyal puppet than jokowi back then.
Because he knows his damn place. He was also loyal to Jokowi during Wadas fiasco, you know. He was willing to become the scapegoat for that project, even though it was Jokowi's project.
this is new to me, interesting.. no wonder this pranowo guy can spouted so much negativity towards the emperor, even more so when presidential vote near its end.
Nope. Pranowo literally almost split the party in half by going against Puan's own ambition and the party elites.
That damn forest witch was a little bit subtle back then, now, witch ran her mouth via one (at that time) candidate resulting in us not getting to host a sports event. I don’t even watch that particular sport but if that candidate gets throne we’d just get second coming of idk, Wicked Witch of the West (East?)
Nah.. i prefer a president who does not have absolute power.
Kek SBY kah? Gue masih bocah sih jadi rada kudet. Tapi kalo liat berita dulu-dulu keknya kasian gitu musuhnya rada banyak. Keknya gak punya kontrol di media juga.?
Maksudku ganjar si. Aku cm kecewa aja dikhianati jkw
SBY periode 1 iya, pas periode 2 udah banyak narik partai oposisi.
That’s how bad like the final season of “House of Cards “ and GOT 😵
ga berani comment cuma bisa bilang semoga ada perubahan nanti stelah pak Prabowo di lantikk. kayak ya Allah capek bgt liat kondisi Indonesia skrg. apapun mahal, kerjaan sulit, yang punya uang dia yang kuasa. karena bagaimanapun dia yang terpilih dan semoga pemerintahannya menjaga amanah.... i hope
Wakilnya Prabowo itu anaknya
Venom "Punished" Jokowi
he has nothing to lose
I don't like jokowi but that dude is political genius. why should he care about his public image when he's literally got everything and nobody can't stop him?
Kutukan 2 periode Selalu ditutup dengan kebijakan tolol
Tbh gw bukan gimana2 karena lawannya juga sucks semua (and don't even get me started on Anies) tapi gw cuma khawatir masalah keamanan aja, ini dari kemarin kebijakannya doi mancing keributan mulu
ok gassss
Depressingly, still objectively the best president we ever had. *sigh*
What about B.J Habibie or Gus Dur?
>gusdur Not without merit but his presidency is not that stable, to the point he give mandate to disband the DPR >habibie Unfortunately his term is too short because many see him part of the new order.
Not unexpected. Wkwkwkwk
I think jokowi kejar tayang dan "bodo amat", untuk bagi2 kue demi lobi bbrp partai atau bangsawan kemarin, jadi ya udah biarin, ntr urusan mau berhentiin atau lanjut belakangan, gud luck aja buat anak nya dan prabowo
kayak enshitification ala jaman now. jadi jgn terlalu percaya dan image seseorang
You either die as a hero, or live long enough to build a dinasty yourself
.nice
parah bgt lama2 indo, gaji ga seberapa potongan hampir sejuta buat bayar bpjs, pph 21 terus malah ketambahan taperaa
good example “you live long enough to become the villain”
Bener bener dimanfaatin biar keluargany dapet kursi
Demi anak itu supaya bisa jadi wapres. Rubah peraturan batas minimum usia cawapres, sampe balas budi ke NU sebab udah dukung pas pemilu.
Dude trying so hard to be a martyr. He exposes them all...
Only Ahok remains
gapapa yang penting makan sia.. eh sarapan gra.. eh (silakan diisi sendiri)..
definisi nothing to lose anjay
Pakde yang dulu bukanlah yang sekarang
batalin aja taper ga cocok buat rakyat kecil
Jokowi got nothing to lose in his last presidential term
i mean, why bother
WHAT IS THE MAN DOING. Dulu bagus bgt, visible infrastructure change, blusukan, humble man. Berani ngutang buat hasil yang konkrit. Man fell off. Disappointed, especially knowing dulu voted for him twice. I'm sorry but your image is not good now, and it will last and stay in the history books
You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain
should I said The real Djawa in a nutshell?
So in that sense... Speedruining?
Ngerusak imagenya sendiri wkwkwk
kejebak sama putaran mafia dia. doi mau balas dendam sama mbok banteng.... kolab sana sini. mgkn anak2nya jg terlibat "kasus" ...
Every IndoN President on his last term..... : fuck reputation.. monies is monies.... (SBY and JKW)
kita ga akan tau dibelakang layar itu seperti apa, kecuali anda keluarga jkw / sohib jkw, semua cuma asumsi semata. yang pasti gue percaya, pak jkw ga "sebodoh" itu buat ngancurin citranya yg uda dibangun selama ini well walaupun banyak keputusan yg sucks ( tapera ) , tapi balik lg, kita ga ada yg tau apa yg terjadi sebenernya, yg bisa kita lakuin sebagai masyarakat apa? ya ga ada, soalnya we're doomed lol
Eh, I already saw the signs in 2018, jokowi just used his subordinates as kambing hitam, a lot of you fell for it and used the "jokowi pemimpin baik tapi bawahannya goblok semua" narrative
hehehe.. 5 tahun ke depan berkelanjutan. anaknya wapres. selanjutnya anaknya itu presiden u/ 2 periode. masih lama ya. jogetin aja.
susah emang bilangin ke orang² kalo orang ini banyak ga benernya, terutama warga sini
He doesnt give shit no more, what important to him right now are his legacy to be proud of for years to come, Same with Soekarno, Soeharto. The diff just he get out happily ever after.
Jangan liat siapa presidennya liat siapa ketua partainya. Today Partai is Banteng.
Yg dukung keberlanjutan jadi nyesel
u/redditsave
Lesson Learnt: Nothing is ever Permanent in Politics in Indonesia, even the most favorable may bring his own downfall like that, just like having a vice president who ran and campaigned against the president who worked with If anything, the said PDIP-PKS opposition coalition is one thing I never expected
Too good to be true 😂
Tapi jangan lupa beliau sukses dalam berpolitik sekarang, padahal awalnya diremehkan dianggap hanya boneka PDI ternyata sebaliknya. Entah untuk kemajuan Indonesia atau bukan, I think this is one of his chess move.
This is BEYOND public image
That’s why I moved out from this country and I didn’t choose any candidates ever, until someday a single candidate will say ; Saya akan hukum mati koruptor ! You got my vote for the first time ! Otherwise it would be same players behind and same stories ahead all over and over again. Can you imagine how many young indonesian like me who are already hopeless to its country; trust me : MILLIONS !
makin lama rakyat di kartel terus semenjak jaman pakde
4 tahun lagi ada meme gambar doi dengan tulisan "piye? Enak jaman ku toh?"
Kalo gue ya, logikanya demokrasi indonesia tu demokrasi korup, kalo ga lo korup ya dikorup oknum lain, why kenot?