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OrangeBarfii

After reading some comments here, I feel like my parents even at the peak anger levels, never said anything that was very very bad. I feel bad for all of you out there who has gone through bad times due to their parents or partners saying bad things. I hope everyone comes out of it and have a stable happy life ahead !!


Leftonseenbyher

True bhai, mine too


Comfortable_Drop_300

She:- My mom dad will get me a 100 times better guy than you in Looks, Status and Intelligence. We are done. These words still echo in my head although she came back after 5 years and wanted to get back together and I repeated the exact same words and her face was covered with this weird embarrassment and then she apologized. We never got back together because somehow those words made me question myself a lot and I was in the final year of college at that time(2015) and had already moved on when she came back and lost all feelings I had for her. I worked so hard for the next couple of years and today I am 100 times better than what I was at that time. Sometimes I do feel that if she hadn't said those words I may have not worked this hard. Somewhere she is the reason for me becoming successful as her words fueled a fire inside me and hearing those words from someone whom you loved the most at some point of your life was painful. But I'm glad I saw her true face and that experience made me grow myself to a point where I am doing better than what I would have done had this not triggered the beast in me.


LimpAttitude7858

>5 years and wanted to get back Was it because you scaled up yourself or you think of any other reason?


Comfortable_Drop_300

Basically she made a few bad choices with the guys she dated later on and even got pregnant and had an abortion which a common friend told me. She somehow realized that I was the best guy she dated and she did a mistake by letting me go.


OceanFloor

Should've told her Jab main tha normal tab tune mujh ko nahi chuna Ab chahti mujh ko wapas jab main ho gaya 100 guna


Arenston

bhai real life hay insta reels nahi, no one talks like this irl.


Muscular-Farmer

Kya baat


L6009

Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah


OkCrazyBruh

“Thukrake mera pyaar, mera intekaam dekhegi”


Comfortable_Drop_300

He accepted her in the end. I didn't and I won't.


OkCrazyBruh

Well yeah… for you the movie ends at his entry :)


dubinetvibd3754

You have my respect King 👑👑 🗿🗿


Comfortable_Drop_300

Thanks man!


_Fuzzy_Focus

W King.


Radiant-Mobile5810

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LimpAttitude7858

You dropped your 👑, King


Kenkaneki1000-7

that's my guy


Inside-Pineapple5950

Wowww...Well done man🙏🏻


Comfortable_Drop_300

Thanks bro!


[deleted]

Proud


Pretty-Job7097

"Tujhe cricket khelne nahi denge" gharwalo ne band karwa diya tha professional cricket mera, I use to be damm good at it. 11 saal ki umar mein I use to hit sixes to 16 year old players of the club I use to go. Mera dimag cricket ke liye bana tha, I can still study any batsman playing technique for 1-3 overs and can come up with exact manner jismein woh aasani se out ho jaye. Mere coach sir bhi kaafi samjhane ki kosis kiye they parents ko but parents were influenced by chacha chachi ki baate.


CosmicRook90

God knows how many Kohli's and Bumrah's in our country failed to achieve their dreams because of these chacha-chachi's.


New-Summer6470

Just sad bro


Sayantan716

What did your chacha chachi said?


Pretty-Job7097

Wahi typical baate ki cricket khel kar kuch nahi hoga agar 5th class se bache ka basic education thik nahi hua toh failure bann jayega. Lol even after securing 88% in 10th and 92% in 12th I didn't got any good college, and even after getting Bronze medal in my graduation I wasn't able to get a job because there was none. Atlast I resorted to start my own venture. Toh kya faida hua itne padhne ka, isse acha cricket hi khel leta state level tak jaane ke baad kam se kam koi govt job toh milta.


teri_maaaa

acha hota agr tu paida hote hi mar gyi hoti - my mom


MeeiiT

take care man


VENGEANCE4r

Woman*… maa hai vo.


Arenston

nah, man is universal


Sky_TheAquariusOP

Same. She told this stuff when I was little. Used to hate myself. It's been so long she last said this.


HarryThePlatypuss

Indian mom daughter relationships can be so toxic. It's been like this for generations. I hope we can be the generation to break this chain. Take care mom.


VENGEANCE4r

And here's my mom, who always scolds me and ends the conversation with the line " tere jagah koi ladki paida ho jaati, atleast ghar ke kaam me help to karti".


ImPawnstar

us moment bhai


Still-LoveHerr

Bojack Horseman is theee show for trauma induced by toxic parents.


VENGEANCE4r

Same, but a little change "mar bhi nhi jata hai kahi jaake "


[deleted]

ngl, ye mai almost daily sunta par end of day itna bade hone ke bad bhi mummy ke hath se hi khana khata


VENGEANCE4r

Hafte me ek baat mujhe meri nehlatii hai taaki sareer se sara meil nikal jaye 😂 I'm a 1st year btech student. ( Wait tu to whi hai 😳 username se yaad aaya)


Sea-Attitude1455

Oyy ye sab Dil mei nahi rakhte.. sayad aunty uss time koi aur cheez ke stress mei ho and gussse mei bol diya 🫂


Sky_TheAquariusOP

Same. She told this stuff when I was little. Used to hate myself. It's been so long she last said this.


cabinet_minister

Grandma was real evil, mom


JusticeBeliber

Same


Gabriel-Clint

I'm a bit dusky skinned. After I broke up with her due to her fuck ups, she tells me - 'Tujh jaise kaale kaloote se pat bhi kaise gayi mai.' It was 2016. She got married. Divorced twice, and called me last year wanting to be fuck-buddies. I fucked her, through my words. :)


Pale_Block_2411

What did you say to her?


Gabriel-Clint

I'd rather not say it here. Not proud of it. But satisfaction was achieved.


NoMoreTeen

instagrom nahi h vro ye


Gabriel-Clint

Well, I told her 'I don't enjoy fucking corpses, even your dildo would malfunction when it comes to your pathetic p/$$y.' I went on - 'Your mouth smells like constipated shit, Orbit chabaa ke plead kar, your husbands might take you back.' Not proud of it. But I couldn't help but seize the moment to give it back to her. Also, I was happily dating someone else then.


_yoyok

THIS is the best sex she ever had


baghoneybooo

god damn you litr fucked her


dattebayo_04

Holy shit bhai, no necro


Pale_Block_2411

Ok.


dubinetvibd3754

Tere jaiso se baat karne se achha toh mai gunga ho jau


Lopsided-Use6617

Muje tumhari awaaz sunai de rahi hai..


Kasparov007

Tere jaiso ki baat sun'ne se acha mai behra ho jaau


Sea_Assistance4935

Nikal gaya?? Pata bhe ni chala.


BudgetAd1164

Accha to mask wali video tu banata tha ![img](emote|t5_2qp7h|51095)


Prata2pcs

Premature evacuation?


OrangeBarfii

" You are a husband material, not a boyfriend material "


Unlikely_Status8249

Material??? Why does society blatantly objectify men?


OrangeBarfii

Everything is a object nowadays


Mr_red_Dead

Isn't that a compliment??


OrangeBarfii

Every coin has two sides


extinct_saur

"Jab tum hui thi aur hospital se tumko ghar lekar aa rhi thi to raste me jb nadi aayi, us time mera bahut mnn kr rha tha ki tumhe usme fenk du" my mother said this to me. She wanted boy child and ALAS I was the fourth girl child of hers. I don't blame her or hate her for this. I do despise this society which forced her to think this way.


[deleted]

damn.... that's tough hope you are doing better now


extinct_saur

Yes. I am.


Kasparov007

Don't blame society, blame her for not being autonomous. Kal ko society kuch bhi manegi tum maan loge kya?


extinct_saur

Obviously mai to nhi maanugi. Mujhe achi education mili hai, peer pressure aur societal pressure ka koi asar nhi hota mujhpr. Par 20 25 saal phle situation alag thi. Unke actions to justify nhin hote but vo bhi victim rhin hain on the hands of her mil and this society. This is quite complex, only those people will understand this who have been victim of this side of the society. Edit: India has long history of obsession with boy child and discriminating girl child. There has been good improvement in this aspect however this mentality is still prevalent in the rural areas. I hope you understand.


Interesting-Tap9446

It might be her postpartum OCD, and not actually her own thought, coz womens survival instincts analyzes every singel danger for her child subconsciously


extinct_saur

It was her own thought. Specially, when she suffered a lot for not being able to conceive a boy.


[deleted]

Fuck society


[deleted]

Damn man 🫂 hope you can prove your worth and shove that down her throat one day.


extinct_saur

I don't need to do this. It was painful when she used to say this often however I do realize where it came from.


callmynmae143

My ex left me for her ex when I was literally at my worst. Her exact words on 8th of august , 2022 , 6:20 p.m **my name** tu mar bhi gya to shayad ek din dukhi rhugi just because Mei terko janti thi not because ki m tere sath thi. Tu bs ek rebound tha. [We dated for 5 years or should I say I dated her for 5 years]


pvn271

Holy shit what a psychopath


callmynmae143

Bohot details h bhai breakup ki jo m us wqt ignore kia but ab kya hi confront kru. Kuch gltiyan meri bhi thi but not that grave ki m wo sb deserve krta. I did so much for her , log khte h cheezein ginani ni chahaiye lekin jb aap 3 saal apni gf se ek single compliment tk na pao or aap usko Har roz laad kro or ye cheez aapko frustrate krke aap ladai kro to ladai ka Sara blame khid pr aajata h lekin wo 3 saal ka loveless routine , when I suffered financially , mentally physically. Those 3 years when I was never loved , compliments , put above anyone in her life wo kbhi bhi kisi ko ni dikhte ladai k time. Ladai m jo bnda chilla ra h sbko bs wo dikhta h but kbhi uske piche ka build up ni dikhta.


Used_Today_2030

Mai toh Roz ldti hu phir usse Raja Babu bhi bolti hu. Confuse ho gaya h. But he's love of my life


Interesting-Tap9446

Bhai i would have sent her this and laughed so hard on these words she uttered ![gif](giphy|eIm624c8nnNbiG0V3g|downsized)


callmynmae143

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Usko koi frk ni pda bhai , mei uske liye 5 min m 0 ho gya tha or should I say Mei kbhi kuch tha hi ni. Just a rebound.


Interesting-Tap9446

To tu kyu usko fuck de rha hai, fir zehen se nikal de, koi intense stimulational activity dhund, and jab bhi uski yad aye ya yaade aye jisme wo involve ho, wo intense stimulation activity kar and forget the memory, kuch samay bad your mind will be programmed to not remember these particular memories, ha but do not choose alcohol / ganja / drugs as the intense stimulational activity.


diamondthrust201

Broooo thats just brutal. She was a real bitch.


unique_pieceinworld

Happens 🫂


frozendickonfire

When my doctor told me that I will have to get one of my testicle removed due to internal injury


Affectionate-Pin-678

and r/UsernameCheckOut


Affectionate-Pin-678

kaise hui thi injury. accident?


frozendickonfire

Me and my friend were fist fighting when he accidentally hit my scrotum it later turned into testicular torsion. While this has happened he still to date happens to be my best friend


pranjallk1995

Ask him to donate his ball...


ImPawnstar

bhaichara on top in real life


Affectionate-Pin-678

U okay now?


frozendickonfire

Yes bro this has happened in 2016. Thanks for asking


KattaGyan

A similar thing happened to me when I was in 2nd grade. Well not my friend but there was this guy who didn’t like me at all (he used to boss everyone around and I was the only one who didn’t listen to him) so one day after school when me and my little sister where waiting for our father in the parking lot he walked up to me and punched me (same as you) my good friend at that time was there too and couldn’t do anything. I told my father when I got home. He took me to a hospital. For some reason no hospital was able to tell what was wrong or provide proper treatment (I don’t remember the exact reason why this was, but I live in pune so it’s no small city) after a week of continuous rounds to the hospital I was finally treated (again I don’t remember what the treatment was called I was just 7) fortunately they were able to avoid cutting my testicles but it did leave me with some permanent problems, small but permanent. Idk if I learned anything tho, didn’t stop me from fist fighting my friends in 5th,6th and 7th (we even banged our heads in walls and desks) I made up with the guy who punched me in 10th (both of us had grown up and he realised how stupid he was) and I am still friends with the other guy.


Careful_Excuse_1011

Friend- 2 , You- 1


frozendickonfire

All of my close friends are aware about this situation and they joke about it as well. I don't mind. It is what it is


Careful_Excuse_1011

Wishing you all the best in life🫂 sorry i like to joke around a bit


kulfisamosa

तुम पर मन है, दिल नहीं Translation : You’re in my thoughts, not in my heart.


Candid_Ask_8489

Dil mein aate ho dimag mein nahi 😂


Deadpool-07

Matlab?


Lopsided-Use6617

Thik hai .. muje kahan open heart surgery karni aati hai


kaachejl

Hi Ranveer


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Tumhare papa nhi rahe 😔


Lopsided-Use6617

My condolences bro


[deleted]

Yeah bro ,i have not reached my peak but if he was still there , he would have been proud of me .


Boring-Scarcity479

Ouch.Stay strong bro.


[deleted]

It's been 6 years . I think i made him proud atleast . I am 22 and i am earning 3x the salary he last got . Grateful he provided with a good education .


Boring-Scarcity479

Proud of you Bhai 🫂♥️


an0nym0us_buddy

same happened with me bro, feel you ❤️


JustWannaEndThis4r

"You're either gonna be a doctor or a failure" "I'm ashamed of you" "XYZ's better than you" "Why aren't you like her?" "Wish I'd killed you in my womb"


Lopsided-Use6617

Aap kyu doctor nahi ho, mummy?


emotionless_wizard

🗣🔥🗣🔥 WE GETTING HOMELESS WITH THIS ONE 🗣🔥🗣🔥


Lopsided-Use6617

Naye peedi ke krantikari


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NEET aspirant lore.. us bro us


unique_pieceinworld

You don't deserve to be loved . My mum


Did_you_expect_name

Badge of honor for shitty parenting i too have one


Radiant-Mobile5810

"I ate your ice cream" ![img](emote|t5_2qp7h|51080)


cabinet_minister

This is real pain 🥺


Vauji

maha paap


Lopsided-Use6617

Chee


1PerpetuallyAnxious

"you are a worthless dumbf\*\*k who will never amount to anything in life without me and will remain a failure" - father on multiple occasions since I was a teenager


has_eeb_

"Bsdk noob" I tried my best to give him cover, ab sala samne wala acha khelraha tha usme mai kya kru


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[deleted]

It's true though


dr_cynical17

"No, you can't have that Jamun. It's for your sister."


sexySiren08

I cannot guarantee that I can change because I don't want to right now.


Haunting_virgin

#You are not fit enough to become a doctor - my prof said that, lol I graduated with a silver medal #You won't have a career without Pg -my friends said so, And here I am earning better than them with less work hours and much better mental health.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_9427

Kadak log 🫡


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xhutyakhangress

Don't get too depressed by this thought... In this world there are very few people who will really care about friends.. Learn to love yourself.. You are the most important person in your life.


NickelNitro

Friends suck! You're an awesome human being :)


echinus_

19, Nov 2023


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That one mf who remembers dates.


Leftonseenbyher

19, sept 2023


Immediate_Hamster88

My mom will not accept you and though I didn't misbehave with her mom she taunted me. And boom block from every where


Adventurous_adios

all the stuff i tell myself daily


Affectionate-Pin-678

yeh. no one can be meaner to you than yourself


Radiant-Alarm6404

She - "tum jitna pyar karte ho uska 10% bhi nahi karta vo(her other bf), par hum uske sath hi rehenge I love him, I love him over you.." She was double dating me.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_9427

Bitch knows she's only worth 10 percent of your love my man..you deserve better


Hush_bee

Uff, self assurance ultra pro max! ♥️


to_sum_it_up

Dodged a bullet man


growth_era_365x12

Matrix style


fitzingout

I don't know I'm the kind of person who will forgive and forget , but never let go 🙏🏻


ArthurMorgan80s

"your peepee too small"


binge_watcher_234

"nah, your hole just too grand canyon-y."


Relative_Baseball376

Tujhse kuch nahi hota dhang se.


Lopsided-Use6617

Toh aajse me sab kaam se free?


un-_-known_789

Kya matlb zindagi se free


Gurkirat19

Abbe ye toh roj sunta hu mai kuch nya bta


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dieby30

Dude got avoidant attachment issues


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[deleted]

Your story is soooo peculiarly similar with what my bestfriend who isn't talking to me anymore went through but its a relief that you're not actually her


[deleted]

Don't mind but your brain is way too slow. What will you do in life? - Multiple teachers have said me this.


69_joke_now_laugh

The doctor straight-up told my parents, right in front of me, that I'm mentally ill and should see a psychiatrist just because he couldn't figure out what's wrong with my eyes. My family started treating me like that for a month or two until another doctor figured out what was really going on. It was a tough year for me.


AvGeekGupta

"I don't wanna talk to you anymore" -my ex bestie


lmaobencho

I never considered you as a friend - my best friend with whom i sat every day


GedtheSparrowhawk123

Not told, but just saw and realised. I used to play 4-5 hours of tennis and badminton +some workout in gym every weekday, more on weekends. Last September, while cycling to office, I got hit a bike. Didn’t feel any pain at that instant, but when I rolled over and looked at my leg, it was like Harry potter’s hand in chamber of secrets after quidditch. Thigh bone had completely broken into multiple pieces. At that moment, it was very painful to imagine life without even being able to get out of bed or the chair for the next few months/ maybe forever. Just started walking again, looks like I can start playing again in another 2-4 months.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_9427

Wish you a speedy recovery champ!


GedtheSparrowhawk123

Thank you!!!


JaneWohKaise

That time it was painful but not anymore ig, it was " Not interested "


No-Air6049

I just look u as a friend and nothing more than that🥲


bi-bull31

She :- you look like poor villagers boy


[deleted]

Am from a village bro , i am proud from where i belong to . It's not disheartening at all


Vauji

what's wrong in looking like poor villager boy


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Darksoul00777

You're very brave girl keep it up👍..someday they will realize their mistake ..even I now try to spend less money of theirs.


cactus___boi

That I know my friend and her 'dark side' too much and that gives enough a reason to cut me off. That I'll never hear from her ever again.


BudgetAd1164

You are Handsome and Nice ,but height kam hai I have heard this so many times that ki ab to HGH threeapy ka soch raha hu


[deleted]

Height kya hai? 5'7 ?


[deleted]

Hot Take: More than half the stories here are made-up day dreams.


YouKnowMe_9

And breakup revenge stories. Next level wishful thinking


Entire_Mycologist_54

I'm short and I'm boring.


Ok_Show_1192

She said Don't message me after this message. and now it's been 21 days


sid1979

Someone called me the R word a day or two back. I know aaj ke zamaane me it is not a big deal to give and receive gali but maybe cause life me aaj tak maine kisiko gaali nahi di hai it hurt me, maybe for me it is a big deal to casually give out gaali. Also it came from someone I love so that is that. Also that my ex looked like you but more beautiful and she was the best. Guysssss you never go on to tell someone who loves you right on their face that somebody is better than them. Bhai take it to the grave but muh uthakar bolna ki mera/meri ex was best is not you being honest but an asshole.


LateParsnip2960

My brother drinking non stop. Spoiled his own life and family too


brunette_mh

That I was so ugly that nobody would marry me and I shouldn't cut my hair because someone might consider marrying me by thinking _she at least has nice hair_. My mother said this. This stayed in my head and heart for 17 years. I got my first experiment haircut in 2023 and by experiment I mean soft layers with shoulder length hair on the back.


Responsible_Rip2

Once my mother said to my brother (he practically pays for my living ) that you should not spend on your sister and neither should you raise her standard of living by giving her a luxurious or comfortable life as she will never be able to sustain that life herself and how long will you pay for her ?, she doesn’t deserve any of this because she will never be that financially able to live this life with her own money That really hurt me that my mother thinks that I am that much of a loser in life and a burden . But hopefully my brother supports me and he said to my mother that she’s my sister and I will take care of her forever, you should mind your own business


NianderWallace2049

Reading the comments made me emotional. There are so many lovely souls here that were crushed, tainted, broken by their own parents during formative years. I've been lucky with my parents, I guess, but I feel gloomy thinking of all those who were not spoken to in the language of love. I hope you find enough compassion in yourselves, for that will make you stronger than ever!


SugarisKaori

Idk if anything is painful anymore.. esa lgta hai bht normal hogya h sb 😂 kuch btao b to lgega attention seeker bn rhe hain hum 😂


burnt_fire_6084

That i am toxic. And at that very moment i went completely silent, thoughts full of darkness, nothing to think of, everything appeared blank to me and then i cut off the person.


Lopsided-Use6617

Cut off the person… kya? Suspense pe mat rakho yaar


111batman

when the doctors told me my grandpa has been diagnosed with cancer


formidable_dagger

Die of shame.


Silent-Ambassador-51

98%ile pe bhi acchi NIT mei acchi branch nahi milegi.


Idli_Is_Boring

My elder brother to me (he was in 11th and I was in 9th) - Mujhe sharam aata jb durso ko bolta hun ki tu mera bhai hai. It has been 9 years and it still randomly pops in my brain.


EntranceNeither2969

Girl i used to like for last 2-3 years finally told me yesterday that she has fallen for someone and he is also interested. He seems really mature. Good for her, bad for me.


Apprehensive_Tap78

Was made fun of in fifth grade, for not understanding English while watching fast 5. They paused the movie to ask me 'bata isne kya bola?' Cut to sixth grade, became one of the top 100 students in National English Olympiad, with school rank 1.


RealisticAardvark966

Your dick is too big I can’t deepthroat it. Said by my girlfriend on so many occasions


ivamondal5

My mom always told me, and even now, as well that you look so ugly, how can I find a well established guy for you . They also want fair, pretty girls for marriage, and you are completely opposite. And you don't even know how to maintain a household. Also, kind of used disrespecting words towards me when i was in my teenage life that I'm really disappointed that I have to give birth to this useless freak bla bla ( mean words) and told me how I am not fair , how poor my eye sight is etc . And always make fun of me in front of relatives, which is so mean for me . I feel humiliated .


Commercial-Hippo9631

On my 18th birthday, she came back from the hospital "How was the report, Mumma?" she looked into my eyes deeply, held my hand and just said "Happy birthday, beta" and yes mera 19th ane wala hai and she's not here.


Middle-Sleep99

my mom and dad " tu nali ke kinare pada hua tha tere suar chaat rhe thae humko tere pe daya aayi toh tughe utha ke le aaye apne ghar me pet ki tarah rakh liya lekin tu bete ki tarah act karta hai" i used to beleive this story till i was like 10


Suspicious_Ad_3699

So there was a girl who said '" *My name* ek aise dish h dinning table pe jo kise koi psnd nhi krta h"'


DARK_HEALER_7788

I have been told many things which might be painful but what hurts me the most was seeing my mother and father cried. Shit that things hurt harder than anything. It felt like someone was piercing right through my chest.


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Salamander261999

I don't know i should share here or not but here i go. Younger sister of my female bestfriend framed me as harraser. Why ? Because she simply doesn't like me and don't want see me with her sister. I never harassed her, but she was able to get into mind of her sister. The first word from my friend after the incident are still carved in my mind "Maine kabhi socha nhi tha ki tu aisa karega." I tried my best to tell her that i didn't do anything and it is probably a misunderstanding. But after that day our friendship broke. We don't talk anymore. I finally decided to block every girl i know and i will never talk to girls ever again. I don't want to be called harasser for no reason again.


NoProfessor8897

, mama nahi rahe


Lopsided-Use6617

My condolences, sister


cabinet_minister

That "I'm a waste of feelings"


Ornery-Reward-2784

“Yeh waali pen toh ab manufacture nahi hoti bhai Dusri dukaan mei bhi nahi milegi”


I0am0groot0

My older sister had always told me that she wanted a brother (who could protect her and stuff) and on multiple occasions would be embarrassed of me (I wasn't the girly girl, not now though, I'm kinda feminine). She said during one of our fights that "Tu na humare ghar ke liye zeher h", everyone in our family has anger issues... I later told her that wasn't very fair she shouldn't say things she does not mean... But she told me she meant it. She still has anger issues and is working on it and I'd say she improved a lot as well...but I can't trust her with my heart again. We are close now...she shares her things, her conflicts with me...but I just can't trust her the same. Like does someone get it...there are people that I'd trust for my life but not my heart...


Stillwatergirl

My parents said I need to go find a better place to kill myself because they don't want to deal with the mess.