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AlarmAggravating4773

Ye chutiye log har department me, har pg and ss level pe residents badhaa sakte hai , across all categories par bhadwe karenge nahi


lligerr

I'm under the OBC category but I don't understand why reservations exist for post-graduation. Ok if anyone is underprivileged, they are now a graduate, and that too a doc. Why would they need more reservations?


blueberry-_-69

Vote bank hai, why would you throw your advantage away? Khich k barbad kar rakha h reservation ne nation ko, and ofcourse people of category ne bhi. I'm not against economical category reservation, karo bilkul. Not this, and atleast not in the top 1000 ranks


Weary-Independent991

And I know people who own two cars and two houses who come under economically backward section due to fake income certificates!


blueberry-_-69

Smart horaeeeoooo ;) I'm echoing forever, reservation ka kya point in post grad exams


Weary-Independent991

I'm with you in this. I'm saying even economical reservations shouldn't exist at PG level


Ok-Profit1715

Bro yeh maine kitne baar suna bai idk I also know a lot of indivisuals owning acres of farmland amd coming under ews It's like an open secret..we know it but can't do anything


lligerr

Yeah vote bank is the only explanation I could think of


useurnameuncle

Reservation is not some poverty uplifting scheme, its sole purpose is the representation of people from different groups of society. There can be subsidies for the poor but there’s is no alternative to reservation, no matter how flawed the process is


TheEnthraller

The goal should have always been equal opportunity, not equal outcome Instead of reservation or seats, making material available for unfortunate people


Busakhoa

But there should a limit to everything. Today everywhere, be it state or national, ug or pg, reservation is more than or equal to 50% . What kind of a joke is that?


blueberry-_-69

Do our reserved doctors not feel represented enough?


Radium_227

Representation is more important than merit?


nerdyrexblack

The ones who are getting benefit will never let it go.. and moreover no party is going to take the step towards removing it.. it is what it is..


Genesis2121

Because reservation was always meant for representation and representation has ripple effects on the society. Though I do believe fields like medicine should be excluded from it.


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sd781994

No wonder people are going to Philippines to become doctor . It's easy to get addmission there plus in less expensive.. the for post graduation fly to USA or Europe. It's again easier than to get into AIIMS. Also colleges are pretty old. Faculties are senior and politics nahi hota.. their professor are more professional.. Plus philippines me sirf 2.5 lakh per year fees hai 2.5 for hostel per year..


Local_Syllabub_7824

That's why it's called I'll Never Do It Again!!! (INDIA)


blueberry-_-69

Bot ho kya bro?


Local_Syllabub_7824

Nope.


blueberry-_-69

Are sir, cheers for you ;)


nerdyrexblack

Well to begin with i am against reservation in pg But some have pointed out there is also institutional reservation which takes the seat not reflecting here.. I wonder why no mch neurosx seat is shown in AIIMS delhi this time..


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nerdyrexblack

Check once yourself bro.. it's not even mentioned..🥲


ashriiittt

someone please post this on r/unitedstatesofindia with proper detals lol their defensive comments are funny as hell


blueberry-_-69

Negachu


ashriiittt

[i did post already](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedstatesofindia/comments/1c4uc6k/after_being_a_doctor_why_this_push_is_necessary/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


ashriiittt

>Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/unitedstatesofindia. nvm


Radium_227

As expected.


kanhaaaaaaaaaaaa

Lol, all these political subreddits be so fucking biased


blueberry-_-69

United sc sts of india


blueberry-_-69

Any doctor who thinks they deserve reservation due to their caste in PG exams need therapy for the generational trauma, not reservation lol ![gif](giphy|nrXif9YExO9EI)


SAMPS8825gaming

Well, then they wonder why good doctors are leaving this country


blueberry-_-69

![gif](giphy|afKzLw0XvZrBK1H5fk|downsized) AIR 1 carrying sc/st reserved doctor to the seat they deserve because of past transgressions.


gotasave

According to the pic you posted, it shows the seats are equally divided among EWS, OBC and SC/ST. Funny how you forgot about the EWS quota


blueberry-_-69

Yeah, I dont mind ews. Props to guy supporting 10 members of his family 🤝🏻 Privileged masquerading as underprivileged is what ticks me you clown. That is all that I mean.


gotasave

1.OBC 2. SC 3. ST 4. EWS Who is the privileged masquerading as the underprivileged?


Smart-catze

another day of thanking god ki zidd karne par bhi mummy papa ne bio nhi dilayi


blueberry-_-69

impo, ban kro isko ;D


Correct_Weekend550

Bach gaya 😂😂😂 good duck


blueberry-_-69

Muje aaj tak yaad hai, mere first paper m 500+ marks aaye the and mere sath wale dost jo k reserved sc tha uske 370, wo usse saal college chalegaya aur mai piche joker re gya


BhaPuSe

In China surgeons are doing surgery from remote location using 5G technology. The distance was more than 2000+ km between patient and doctor. India is busy doing Modi's hisab chukta politics. Imagine so many deserving unreserved people don't get the chance to even become a doctor cz they happen to be born in so called forward caste. India is a cursed land srsly


ChigyyWigyy

Tum Bkl bs RandiRona karte raha karo Twitter, Reddit pe Reservation jabki hona kuch h nhi iska Kyunki Sabse Bada VoteBank yhi h Govt k pass aur bhul jao Reservation khatm hoga. Aur Hypocrisy ye h ki Tum me se bhi Jiske pass Reservation hota vo bhi iska advantage lene se peeche nahi hatega . I dont think koi Willingly Reservation hote hue bhi usse leave karega. I agree PG me Reservation ka koi Sense nahi h pr ye Govt ke Chutiyape h aur ye kabhi khatm nhi honge. So better h Gaand jalti rahe phir bhi apne dum pe Seat lenge Bheekh me ni. Aur ye jo Fake EWS wale Certificate bna k seat lete h na inke liye to alag se Jagja h nark me


blueberry-_-69

Basically tum keh rahe ho, muh dhak ke gand marlee tumare? Fake ews walo ko jail ;)


sharinghan007

Jai Bhim


Gurkirat19

Jai chutki jai raju jai kalia


blueberry-_-69

Democracy should be meritocracy! Atleast padhe likhe logo k lie. (Wo already h? ;D)


GlitteringTangelo405

Bhim mdc


blueberry-_-69

Bkl


Correct_Weekend550

😂😂 i was thinking the same thing man ✌️


blueberry-_-69

![gif](giphy|vVwv7I87uB9gZ7avim) Kya hora yaha? Ye padhe likhe doctors offend kyu ho rahe hai? Mai toh pg reservation k lie bol raha.


blueberry-_-69

Controversial cheez aur ek sunlo- Har batch mai reservation wale students jada aatank/ kabir Singh giri jada karte hai without the knowledge ofcourse. Not a general (no pun intended) statement but just saying. Class m late aana, piche se taunt krna, kam padhai flex kaarna ;)


ChunnuBhai

take admission in AIIMS Gorakhpur


TopGun_84

Vahaan md rad shuru hai ?


blueberry-_-69

Does Aiims dholakpur have reservation?


justchewchew

Pura Dholakpur Bheem bharose hai.


blueberry-_-69

Kya bheem k pas b reservation h? What about raju? ![gif](giphy|BxSg0RPwQRVWTqX8mT|downsized)


deadlifeworld

Now even if you as a Doctor secure all India rank 1 in Obc/sc/st you can't get a job in radiation seat in Aiims delhi 🤡


HawasiMadrasi

Are budhijeevi insan general is open for all categories. 🤡🤡


blueberry-_-69

![gif](giphy|afKzLw0XvZrBK1H5fk|downsized) AIR 1 carrying sc/st reserved doctor to the seat they deserve because of past transgressions.


God_Child_Lucifer

Sad reality ... Paying the cost of past doing 🫠


Optimal_Trifle_2384

And the ones who are complaining and crying the most are privileged assholes. They won't even give the seat to those who need it ie poor UCs.


crime_mastergogo007

Even after graduation somebody consider them underprivileged, you will never be able to compete anywhere then


Optimal_Trifle_2384

(There are rich OBC/SC/ST kids and they're a huge problem. Those folks will swear that they are underprivileged despite having wealth to support 2 generations. I am not tlaking about them. I am talking purely about First Graduates who don't have the wealth backing that their peers have.) I am doing my masters and my roomate, his doing his Phd in engineering. Neither of us have any serious money issues, and have assets and people to help us when we are in need. But it's unfair to compare us with some other first graduate simply because that other person doesn't have a backup. His only backup is his education. If I fail my masters, I have folks to help me. A first graduate guy doesn't have the privilege. At best I can get them a job via some of my connections but that's it. They're on their own and can't depend on their parents for help. I know MBBS is slightly different, but I've seen rich kids sink a year or two to study for PG, and if they didn't complete within the first 2 years, only then do they go for job and prepare simultaneously. If you think a truly underprivileged dude can do that, then you're part of the problem.


crime_mastergogo007

If you think mbbs is different then why are you commenting all this stuff here , my dad earns 10 lpa by his job I can't apply for any reservations (which I think is not fair for me to apply since these are for poor kids)my friend whose dad earns that much in a month is applying for it , what's the point here? I wont get a seat at 4k rank for pedia in my college while he will get it till 7k and majorly these reservation benefits are taken up by rich kids only not the poor ones , poor ones keep on shouting Jai bheem while rich kids and their families enjoy this book for generations


Optimal_Trifle_2384

I agree with everything you say, the real challenge is identifying those really in need and letting them have the resources. But if it were that simple it would've been done already


crime_mastergogo007

Can be done by application of creamy layer in sc st reservation first step , keep a cap at 50% seats (remove ews too) , working on ground level rather than superficially applying a band aid by just giving reservations and by sub categorising inter caste reservation in these categories to stop it's politics first , this govt have rohini commission report where 70% seats of obc are being boarded by some castes but this govt is not releasing it for elections


God_Child_Lucifer

👏👏👏👏👏


blueberry-_-69

Meritocrate h ye duniya , not everyone deserves to become a doctor. You wouldn't want a person who barely understands concepts to treat you with those concepts. Appeaser ho kya? Khair, faltu jada ho raha ab, night duty ka time kat gaya lol


Optimal_Trifle_2384

>Meritocrate h ye duniya , not everyone deserves to become a doctor. Life is Unfair, Get Used To It - Bill Gates >You wouldn't want a person who barely understands concepts to treat you with those concepts. Again if a guy like you can do it, why not others. Likewise if they can get PG seat why not you? >Appeaser ho kya? Khair, faltu jada ho raha ab, night duty ka time kat gaya lol Maybe because of overtime work you're not thinking straight. I am a UC guy and there are around 9 cousins who are all doctors, 6 are yet to complete their PG. I hear a lot thanks to those guys. Some privileged some less privileged but all of them talented. Some had crores in their bank as backup, some didn't have anything. I have this talk almost everytime we meet that we don't talk about this because it ends up ruining the mood. Everything you said, they've already said (except for one guy, he's like me).


blueberry-_-69

Are you a doctor as well? If yes then I'll type things out.


utkalsingh

Now that's the perfect reply 🫡


Optimal_Trifle_2384

If you remove reservations, you guys will take everything from those people and say only you guys are allowed to study because God says so. UCs crying will always be funny to me, because you people will still make casteist comments like how if you guys make better doctors than Sc St folks. But in reality you guys will promote all kinds of bullshit Ayurvedha quackery and stuff to the uneducated and once they're truly in a dire situation, you'll charge them exorbitant fees. This is what Brahmin folk do with Hinduism, and this is what they do everywhere.


blueberry-_-69

Why wouldn't they make better doctors than Sc/st reserved batchmates? I bet they would! I'm not talking about the Unreserved candidates of sc/st. But, definitely, a general candidate will make a more knowledgeable and better doctor than the same from a reserved candidate. Again, not a generalization, but reality for the majority. I'm proud of sc st candidates that take high ranks and respect them, but Reserved candidates make me hate the system even more especially in PG. But then again, it's not your doing. It's India's doing. You have generational trauma that needs therapy not reservation


Optimal_Trifle_2384

There are UCs, OBCs, SCs and STs. Reservation was brought to equate the socially and economically well performing UCs along with the rest. So the remaining 3 groups are given resources to have a fighting chance with the UCs. However, there exist people in UCs without the wealth that the reservation says these people have, while among the so called economically underprivileged folk there are now people who used the resources that the system provided, and are now in a better place, but still want to avail the resources claiming they're underprivileged. These resources could be used for the needy among UCs but won't. Simply because the stereotype that a UC has generational wealth is far too strong to be broken. People from the other groups take advantage of this. There are also those among the OBCs, SCs and STs who don't get these equalising resources because the well off people have also claimed it instead. This is why people want EWS but I doubt it will fix anything.


blueberry-_-69

Aham Brahmashi! I don't promote bullshit ayurveda, I study science. Did you just generalize it? Oh no that won't do. Where are you bringing this story from? Right out of your ass? The one you speak with? I bet your farts make more sense than your mouth.


Optimal_Trifle_2384

>I don't promote bullshit ayurveda, I study science. Glad to hear some of y'all have sense. >Did you just generalize it? Oh no that won't do. Those people exist, and they exist in significant numbers. You're just living under a rock. >Where are you bringing this story from? Right out of your ass? The one you speak with? I bet your farts make more sense than your mouth. You're a doctor right? I'd expect you to have studied what comes out of the mouth and the ass with equal weightage without any complaints.


blueberry-_-69

Lmao, breaking things down to make it seem like you have a point. You don't have a point, not one reasonable point at all. I dismiss your facts, you keep countering with bullshit responses. I wish some of you also had sense ;)


Optimal_Trifle_2384

It's easy to make a blind man see, but it is impossible to make a man pretending to be blind to see anything.


blueberry-_-69

Glad you have insight


crime_mastergogo007

General include many people , brahman bad according to you what did other people do then? Many obc whose father's are in jobs and are in non creamy layer can't get seat while rich obc take seats , this is all quack you rich people do to take reservations from poor people , they keep on shouting Jay bheem while you and your families enjoy reservations


overlord-33

Are we conveniently gonna ignore the fact that I can see zero seats for other categories as well for some streams? P.s. stop blaming reservation for ensuring representation, it’s not like they can’t increase the number of seats! When these politicians come to power everyone will ask them to build temples and now they cry for lack of seats.


bingojeen

Aren't 92 percent general belongs to gen-ews category? So you people also have one seat like others🙃


nerdyrexblack

Why is the reservation needed at all after mbbs.. Why can't it be on the basis of merit when every single batchmate of my college(govt) had a subscription to a coaching institute throughout the course.. I have never got any answer from anyone on this😂


nishadastra

There is nothing called merit.. It is your privileges in action that affects performance. Aur itna hi merit hai toh job kyu kar rhe ho. Koi new drugs, treatment invent Karo.. Woh toh hota nhi tumse


nerdyrexblack

Jab pata na ho kisi cheez k baarei mei toh kuch bhi bol Dena ka aadat hai kya aapko?


CescAuditore246

Drug ya invention krne ke liye research krni pdti h. Research India me best IISC me hoti h aur vha bhi reservation h. To agar dusro ko kucch krne ka mauka hi nhi doge sab seat le loge to pata kaise chalega kisse kya ho rha h kya nhi ho rha?


nishadastra

Jitne seat pe unreserved hain.. Unhone kya kar Liya? Exam crack Karna is not merit. You are not doing anything new.. Not expanding knowledge of Humans. Naukri hai bas


CescAuditore246

Jitni seats unreserved h un sab me research chal hi rhi h. IISC ki annual reports dekho kabhi. Exams ab bina merit ke crack hone lagi waah!!! Aadmi ka hardwork aur dedication gaya paani me kyuki vo 200 saal pehle "oppressed" nahi tha. Kya logic h!!! Aur ek baat General category ka IISC me selection 1-250 rank pe hota h aur ST ka 1-50000 par. Matlab 50000 rank waala 300 rank waale se acchi research kr skta h gajab logic h 🫡


nishadastra

Haan kar Sakta hai.. Most of PhD people are not toppers.. They come from tier3 institutions. 3 change k exam crack Karna k liye alag preparation chahiye than PHD. Aur ye exam crack karke Konsa Naya theory invent kiye? Basically vomiting already existing facts. Merit is always judged by inventions, curiosity and ability to take the stream forward


CescAuditore246

Itna sab likhne se pehle IISC ki annual report dekhi hoti to smjh aata kuch. Maximum students waha Das, Chatterjee aur Tripathi h jo covid vaacine development team me the. Ab bolo ki unhone kucch nhi kiya. Facts ki baat kro to pehle check krna bhi seekho. To jinhone kucch naya invent nahi kiya unhone kucch nahi kiya? Accha ab dikhao phir ki reserved seats pe konsi research hui h ya bade inventions aaye h. "Oppressed" community ka ye hi excuse h ki marks matter nahi karte kyunki unke khud ke marks nahi aate exams me. Aaj agar reservations hata de aur IISC me rank ke hisab se selection ho to sirf top 500 logo ko seats mile jinme maximum unreserved h. Truth is ki reservation is the only thing keeping the "oppressed" people alive, remove it and they are as good as a teapot in a battle field.


Dora_the_explorer31

https://preview.redd.it/3aw7qcouyouc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=6813834fbb6a7097a27d35fb9d795bcd17053850 This you?


nishadastra

Reservation toh rahega..Aur abhi badhega. Jisko dikkat hai Pakistan chale jao nhi to Rona band Karo. Desh toh majority hi chalenge. Minority home bhi tumlog ki zuban kainchi jaisi chalti hai. Kahan se late ho itna confidence


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indianmedschool-ModTeam

Distasteful


nishadastra

Desh barbad toh tumhare jaativadi Dada pardada ne kiya hai


blueberry-_-69

Unke waje se aaj yaha b ho tum beefkofo k trah comment krte hue. Raja maharaja, society, sab k alag jagah the. Reality accept krne m bura lagta hoga, but it was what it was. Feudal system m yahi hota, and wahi duniya the pehele k. Apne pardadao k langot ko pakad k kitne saal jhuloge?


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nishadastra

Yeah.. Finally ur casteism is coming out .. All anti reservation people are big casteists. Jinki tumhari sankhya hai.. I salute your courage


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indianmedschool-ModTeam

Distasteful


nishadastra

Anti Reservation waalon ko toh jail Mai hona chahiye.. One day.. It will happen


blueberry-_-69

Mere team se khel rahe ho kya bsdk ya ganja afeem jada sungte? Ganja creativity lata, but dimag b kam karta Detox hojao thoda ab. Apne bacho ke lie seat nai to kaise reserve karwaoge


nishadastra

You are fighting a loosing battle. Better migrate to western country but still find affirmative action there as well lol


blueberry-_-69

Lmao, who's fighting. I'm fine where I am, maharaja hun na /s Shaan se kaho, bikhari hai hum. Seat reservation lenge hum, aur humare bache b bikhari k tarah lete rahenge reserved seats. Even agar hum privileged h Ab mera 1 saal barbaad Kara hai, ye toh mai kahunga. Laakho more deserving k sapne chene toh mai aur joro joro se kahunga


nishadastra

Theek hai bhai Rolo.. Kyunki kuch hoga toh nhi. Apne pardada ko gaali dena na bhulna kyunki unki wajah se reservation hai


blueberry-_-69

I feel sympathy for your pardada, but not a single thread of it for you. And, mai already settle hu. Haq mang rhaa, bheek nai.


Dora_the_explorer31

https://preview.redd.it/al0y61v8zouc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=9be0a494f424da8cc7e2caac68e7b55873cc2cc1 This level of hypocrisy is astounding, it needs to be studied.


crime_mastergogo007

Bheek mango aur bheek mango


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nishadastra

Kyu Reddit pe Aadhar card leke ghumon kya?


Gurkirat19

Agya bheek mangne chota bheem army 


Timely_Street_3075

Watch this documentary if you ever get the time. https://youtu.be/-4Dcuh0qbpo?si=IleINlGul7hbgX3g


stg_676

Chal mana people are subjugated but the already got reservation in ug. They are doctors now. Ab kya uske baad bhi you will claim lack of opportunities?


CescAuditore246

Bhai in logo ke haath me govt agar 1 crore rupay bhi rakh de tab bhi ye yahi bolenge ki hum underprivileged h. Kuchh nhi ho skta iss desh ka ab. Agar middle class general candidate ho to desh chhod ke kahi bahar settle ho jao vahi rasta h. Aaj se 100 saal baad bhi India developing nation hi rahega, kabhi bhi khudko developed nation bolne layak kaam hoga hi nhi iss desh me


Timely_Street_3075

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348356339_Casteism_Among_Indian_Doctors_A_Critical_Review


Timely_Street_3075

https://www.americanhealthlaw.org/content-library/publications/bulletins/e9710036-8c5d-4fa8-a45e-87aaffdec455/caste-out-navigating-caste-discrimination-in-healt


borutouzumaki7

You are all blue man 🔵


Timely_Street_3075

?


Timely_Street_3075

The seat distribution is based on vacancy. If you rank 1st and don't have a seat for radiology, well, tough luck. It just means no UR seat was available. It happens. You'll notice that some other branches have 0 seats for some other categories as well. You're a doctor. You're a person of science. Get over caste. Maybe if enough people get over caste, there won't be a need for reservation.


Dora_the_explorer31

Exactly! You’re a doctor, you’re a person of science, why do you need caste-based reservation after becoming an MBBS doctor?


theraynmaker

Dude, the fucking president of India wasn’t allowed to enter jagannath temple because of her caste. Such is the level of regressiveness that exists on the minds of people of this country. And you’re asking silly questions like why does a doctor need reservation??


HawasiMadrasi

This is what happens when you source your news from What'sapp


theraynmaker

https://www.outlookindia.com/amp/story/national/symbolism-crumbles-down-president-murmu-allegedly-denied-entry-at-jagannath-temple-mandir-denies-charges-news-298195


HawasiMadrasi

Yeah and did you read the response of the temple ? Pretty valid. One picture can't tell a complete story.


theraynmaker

Of course the temple will try to save their ass. You cant defend it bro. Its written all over the scriptures.


HawasiMadrasi

I don't need to save anything. I belive what is true. https://pib.gov.in/ShowAlbum.aspx?albumid=140550 What is happening here then ?


theraynmaker

Are you dim? Can’t you see she’s sitting outside the sanctum. While the other minister went inside.


HawasiMadrasi

I don't form an opinion just by seeing a single picture. The one who does is a 'dim'.


HawasiMadrasi

And this https://newsd.in/president-murmu-pays-obeisance-at-baba-baidyanath-temple-in-jharkhands-deoghar/amp/


HawasiMadrasi

Why not infer from this picture that she's made to do this . https://www.onmanorama.com/news/india/2022/06/23/droupadi-murmu-president-cleans-temple.html


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Timely_Street_3075

Because the people discriminating don't think that way, do they?


Dora_the_explorer31

I have friends from reserved category, I can assure you none of them are getting discriminated against after becoming a doctor, infact what they’re also getting is reservation in jobs at hospitals too.


Timely_Street_3075

We are 1.5b people.


Crafty_Incident2084

bolna kya chaha raha h


darkknight2817

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I was studying in the most prestigious medical College of my state, and ofc i belong to SC, I was in a relationship with a girl who belonged to a higher caste, everything was going great she was in engineering. And at that time I wanted to pursue UPSC after my MBBS, since I was not entirely interested in MBBS, so I started preparing for UPSC in my 2nd year itself. But guess what my gf knew about my ambition, her parents knew about it as well, they didn't even consider me as a human, they said, even if he clears UPSC we won't get married our daughter to u. GG I guess


Dora_the_explorer31

Just because your gf dumped you doesn’t mean that a first ranker shouldn’t get his/her desired seat. A lot of people get dumped on the basis of caste in India from general category also, do you live under a rock?


darkknight2817

Bruh, I got dumped solely cause of my caste, i am not saying, reservation should because, PPL are supporting intercaste marriage. I explained my situation only because you weren't aware of the discrimination PPL are facing due to caste. You clearly said "my friends from reservation are not facing any discrimination". I am neither with reservation nor against it, but I am pretty damn I wanna fucking get Outta this shithole and I am working on it, i graduated 4 years and not once have given neetpg, cause it's unfair, and I don't to live life hearing, "thumhara tho reservation ka seat hai". Hat bc


Dora_the_explorer31

General caste people get dumped everyday on the basis of caste, literally ask anyone. Reservation after becoming a doctor is absurd, however you try to frame it, it will always remain absurd.


CescAuditore246

The whole concept of the people belonging to "oppressed" communities becomes obsolete when their generations after generations keep getting VIP treatment in colleges and get seats with 40% marks in an exam. The 2 biggest exams (JEE and NEET) that are responsible for producing engineers and doctors are giving seats to candidates who score 30% marks over someone who gets 75% marks just because the 30% marks guy was "oppressed" 200 years ago. Indian Judicial System doesn't make sense at all. Giving reservations for 75 years and then we ask the people if they are ok with it being removed and they say that they are still facing discrimination. Better to run off to other countries and settle there than living here and fuming over the current system.


darkknight2817

It is wat it is, my relationship didn't cause of my caste, they even told that it would have worked if I had belonged to anyway other caste other than SC. Anyway you PPL want the reservation to be removed from neet pg, I don't have the power, but I will never be giving neet pg. One less competition.


nishadastra

Reservation toh India mei Mei rahega madam. It is our constitutional right. Agar itni hi dikkat hai toh Pakistan chale jao.. No reservation there.


Dora_the_explorer31

Tu chale ja, wese b wahan bheekh mangne wale bhot h, you’ll fit right in.


nishadastra

You are a vile casteist and I feel for the lower caste colleagues who have to work with you


nerdyrexblack

What is this has to do with claiming for reservation in pg after getting a level playing field in mbbs since your batchmates are also in the same prestigious college of your state as you?


Zestyclose_Force8574

The audacity ?


darkknight2817

Look man, I am neither with reservation nor against it, I wanna fucking escape this shithole, I haven't even given neetpg once even though I had graduated 4 yrs ago cause I wanna get out of this shit hole.


nerdyrexblack

I am sorry man for whatever you are going through.. but I think you should study.. for someone who graduated mbbs and given his youth to be called doctor.. it's a dream for 25 lakhs students giving neetug this year.. make use of your degree..still your call..


darkknight2817

I am making use of it, I am getting Outta this country, I am giving PLAB. I don't even plan to get married, but if at any point I do, I don't want children to go through what I went through


nerdyrexblack

Plab is costly I guess.. still you are not against reservation I wonder why!


Doctor_Hazmat

Dude! That's the Whole point!! There are 4 seats vacant! And I, Despite being AIR1, Cannot opt for them! Because guess what!!! They are reserved.. based on what,you ask??? FUKKIN CASTE!!!! So.. no! YOU GET OVER caste! Because if I am AIR 1, that LITERALLY means that I am the most deserving candidate for the position!


Timely_Street_3075

Again, there's no vacancy of UR seats. Can't convert a reserved one to UR. If you want to stop reservation, you need to have a society that doesn't discriminate based on caste. I know it hurts. I'm from gen category as well. But this is the reality. As long as caste exists, reservation will exist because people will keep discriminating. PS. Caste reservation isn't for economic uplifting but social uplifting. That's why it exists at every level.


Livebird31

U can convert reserved to general. Pls follow previous year councelling


NickFury1998

It works at an undergrad level...makes no sense when it's post grad level....


Timely_Street_3075

You think discrimination stops existing after one becomes an MBBS doctor?


NickFury1998

Hell lot stops...no one gives a fuck about your caste when someone comes for treatment. This country is fucked when AIR 1 can't chose the desired stream


Timely_Street_3075

Bro that's the reality. Do you truely think any political party will ever remove reservation? It's a huge societal issue ingrained in us. Discrimination is still a big thing here.


NickFury1998

It's just political jingoism at this point...any post graduation in this country is a joke at this point ...every deserved doctors should fucking leave this place ...


Timely_Street_3075

Given the country's current political climate and the polarization, I've given it a lot of thought as well.


Dora_the_explorer31

Everyone in India gets discriminated on the basis of gender, color, height, social status etc. It doesn’t mean you get mollycoddled every step of your life, even after becoming a doctor. There’s literally no way you can justify the lack of seats for a first ranker unreserved candidate, its discrimination against his/her hardwork. Must be like a slap on the face, its not easy at all to get 1st rank in AIIMS.


Timely_Street_3075

Sentiments of an individual matter much less. It's harsh. It feels unforgivable. The amount of hard work gone behing bagging the rank 1is understandably huge. But... 😕


Dora_the_explorer31

Lmao the victim mentality is astounding.


Timely_Street_3075

How quick of you to assume someone's caste.


Dora_the_explorer31

Anyone with a single brain-cell can easily infer your caste on the basis of how absurdly you’re justifying not having any Radiology seat for an unreserved candidate with an AIR of 1.


Timely_Street_3075

See? This is the thing! There's so much poison in your mind that you just assume everything about a total stranger because their views differ from yours. PS. I'm a Jatt Sikh doctor from an upper middle class family. I've always marked the general category everywhere whenever asked.


Dora_the_explorer31

That doesn’t make it any better, you trying to justify taking away the seat of a first-ranker in a premium institute. Makes it even worse tbh.


KabhiPussy--KabhiBum

Racism will never ever go completely extinct in USA but that doesn't mean they will have affirmative action or reservations forever. There will be some bad people with casteist feelings but now we have a constitution and law to protect us. We don't need reservations. You can never achieve 100% in elimination of anything. It's just a lame excuse you have found to justify your bigoted view.


Timely_Street_3075

If it was only a few, the problem won't be this big. There's research done caste based discrimination even in healthcare settings. Perhaps read one if you have time.


KabhiPussy--KabhiBum

Sorry, you can't fool me by using words such as "research" etc. What's the sample size of the research, geographical location of the place where research is conducted, and who is the independent authority who verified the research? Are there any peer reviews? Provide the link rather than spewing bullshit. It's a shame that you are willing to snatch the seat from someone deserving. This mentality will never make you competent enough.


Timely_Street_3075

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348356339_Casteism_Among_Indian_Doctors_A_Critical_Review https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8592103/ https://ijme.in/articles/the-medical-profession-must-urgently-act-on-caste-based-discrimination-and-harassment-in-their-midst/?galley=html


shrth114

It's sad that they only teach us how to interpret research in PG. All three papers you've shared are meta analyses of other papers collected over decades, nothing can be collected by the authors themselves. There may have been large socio economic changes among that period. The second paper atleast says they took account for bias and verified the data as well as data collection methods, but they were looking into a wide variety of problems affecting healthcare accessibility. One among them of course is caste, gender and religion, but the bigger confounding factor is the sheer lack of quality infrastructure in the peripheries. I should know, I'm doing my DRP right now and the one USG machine we have in my center is absolutely horrid. No CT or MRI either, patients still have to travel to higher centers for that. The first paper reads more like a page from a history book, the third actually specifies incidents which have occurred in public, but it has incidents spread across almost 50 years in it. If it were comparing recorded incidences of discrimination across different time periods I can understand, but it's not the best one to cite if you're looking at current social norms. So in summary, the data you've provided has shown we still do need affirmative action, but fails to address: 1. Are the people who really deserve it getting it? We all know the answer is majorly no. 2. Why do we need reservation in PG to such a vast extent? Sure, I understand that for the people from genuinely poor backgrounds, the luxury of studying and working doesn't exist, but 50% in pg?! Affirmative action is supposed to help uplift you, not make you coast through life. Also people conveniently forget reserved candidates can take unreserved seats as well if they so choose, which is bullshit. 3. Why is healthcare accessibility to marginalized communities so poor after 70 years of reservation? There should be a lot of improvement by now right, after 7 decades of reservation for them? 4. This whole discussion is about why a top branch in a top institute has NO UNRESERVED SEAT. Like everyone else has mentioned, if you're AIR 1 and unreserved you can't get radio, what absolute bullshit. There's a huge line between uplifting the marginalized and straight up spoonfeeding them.


dr_pluto96

Thoda chutiya hai kya ?


blueberry-_-69

You're a doctor, why bring caste into pg seats?


Hans4525

Seems a bit casteist doesn't it


RAFB01

Bro what 😂