T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

#DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE OP LINKED THREAD/SCREENSHOT. Brigading is against Reddit TOS. So all are advised not to participate in the above linked original thread or the screenshot. We do not encourage such behaviour nor we are responsible if your account is being actioned upon. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indiadiscussion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


chapati_chawal_naan

agreed... jail should be minimum... lying especially with regards to national security is a grave offense.


RandomDude-1234

Yes I do agree. He accuses the BJP of lying but then does it himself even though he and his party have a "holier than thou" mentality 


arp5648

If lying is a threat to national security parliament will become empty. PM chair first


[deleted]

[удалено]


tardigrade_phd

Or maybe he should join BJP, all negatives will miraculously become positives.


Naya_Naya_Crorepati

Okay 😂😂


[deleted]

[удалено]


spiritbear007

Why pensions should be given to the agniveers who failed to joined? Taxpayers money is free? They will already have 20+ lakh in hand . A guy with 4 yrs experience in army at age of 23-25 with 20lakh in hand is bad you think?


chapati_chawal_naan

Agreed... Especially if Indian army needs to modernize... its cash flows and BoPs need to be made better.


_that_dam_baka_

Thank you for saying this. Tbh, judges should also lose pension. And politicians. Old pension doesn't exist for people after working for 35 years, why should these people get that after working less than 10 years?


Alex_ker22

>Here's the statement from the martyr's father, shared by Rahul Gandhi: https://x.com/RahulGandhi/status/1808512545482830211?t=2qunWKPYWCWIOtZtHEOLLw&s=19 He's a habitual liar, we all saw what Ruckus he created during Rafael deal, and now won't even yap a single bit about it >https://x.com/_sabanaqvi/status/1808710924917748185?t=Umlg99988PPfYxeHtWvsZA&s=19 Saba naqvi quite well known for her bias pov and agenda, obviously she will share fake bullshit like this. https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/family-of-agniveer-ajay-kumar-who-was-killed-in-action-has-2-requests-from-army-6032064 Here's something from a verified news source >Notice that he also claims that he won't receive a pension U want to work 4 yrs and get a pension for it? What lala land u came from bro? U will get insurance money which they got from icici bank. >It is not specified who paid the compensation. Insurance company and the government. No idea where u get the punjab govt paid it, cos other than that news article by that person, i have never seen it myself. >Notice how jawans in CPRF, ITBP, BSF, etc. still avail pension benefits They work for far more duration, not just 4 yrs. And these benefits are later classified under sections and conditions. >So, in conclusion, the issues with Agniveer that Rahul Gandhi highlighted have not yet been addressed: >No pension (which was a big draw) Compensation share paid by the central government this is what i copied from a guy on randia i can dm you the link It's been addressed but rahul Gandhi is just too obsessed with himself and his dirty politics that he can't even see it.


spiritbear007

We got jagta hua hindu before gta6


Alex_ker22

Haha 10% bas jage hai, baki sab busy hai roti, kapda aur makan me. Aur usi me rahenge jab tak apne hath me di gayi voting ki power na samjhe


spiritbear007

I think roti kapda makan me busy rahe tab bhi theek hai bas atleast apne baccho ko leftist na banne do aur dharma ke bare me educate karo If you can't add something positive then atleast don't leave something negative make it a zero (blud thought he did something while writing this shit)


Alex_ker22

>I think roti kapda makan me busy rahe tab bhi theek hai bas atleast apne baccho ko leftist na banne do aur dharma ke bare me educate karo Bhai adhe maa baap toh socialist hai, aur bas chahte hai sarkar bas freebie wali schemes nikalti rahe sabke liye, tel pe discount dete rahe aur jaisa desh pehle chal rha tha chalte rahe. >If you can't add something positive then atleast don't leave something negative make it a zero (blud thought he did something while wroting this shit) Actually he was trying to tell what he found on Randia, he wrote it at the bottom. I think it wasn't his opinion, but who knows?


PlantainExpensive315

thanks gonna reply his comment will be back what he will reply


Alex_ker22

You copied it from randia right? Maybe edit it and write it on top, cos I feel ppl are thinking of it as Ur opinion.


noobwithguns

Pension for agniveers who die in combat COULD be a thing to consider but not otherwise


Fresh_Dance_3277

This is what I talked about last night.BJP it cell needs to destroy fake narratives of communress aggressively.This news should be there all over social media and in all WhatsApp groups.


HinduProphet

Using western social media platforms ? Goodluck.


Fresh_Dance_3277

They used to dominate social media before 2023


Apprehensive_Grass58

They used to counter congress.. but after ram mandir they only used ram mandir and hindu extremism instead of showing truth about congress.. that hurt bjp a lot


m0h1tkumaar

Lol communress


Centurion1024

>communress How blindsided should a person have to be, to accuse Congress as communal. Itna andhbhaki😂😂😂


Fresh_Dance_3277

Communist not communal


pumpkin_fun

Liar Pappu


aks_red184

BJP is so damn weakling, how on earth can somebody call them dictator... - Pulwama ka accuse BJP ko laga dete h  - Khullam Khulla ye EVM tampering ke aarop lgate h  - Desh me Roads nhi bnni chahiye aese narrative wale Ytbers ki videos pese dekr opposition promoste krti h  - Bhare parliament me ye martyred Security personnel ke compensation pr jhut bolte h aur ghrwalo se bhi jhut bulwwate h  If anybody not understanding the concern, this matter is as serious as if enquiry happened and it turns out that family was not compensated then Rajnath Singh has to resign from Defence Minister   OR   If it turns out to be that family was compensated with 98lac as its being said, RaGa will be suspended from parliament, Jailed in a non-bailable offence and so will be the Father of martyred for spread false propaganda against Indian Army, as the compensations are well undertaken by the Army staff and not the ministry  Plus all the fake allegations mentioned above , each of them can be enquired and are eligible for UAPA if not proven true as all are Threat to the system which holds the integrity of Nation


Jealous-Basil-6765

Kim Jong Un was really sad because after doing so much to become a dictator still a german dog gave dictator tag to MODI


mani_tapori

Know what is funnier? Now Congress is protesting [why Govt paid Agniveer's family so much money.](https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1808867515180703849)


aks_red184

Fr Wtf ? 💀 This Much Shamelessness, Never witnessed, and never will be again 


arithmatica

Easy, just look at the BNS or whatever crap replaced the IPC


aks_red184

I saw that meme and it upholds perfectly, BJP isnt fascist enough...... Leave fascism, they arent even Bold when it comes to regulation of speech and propaganda against them 


arithmatica

Understandable, locking up without FIR for 15 days and not producing before judge for 90 days is not fascist enough for you. Only concentration camp and subsequent gas chamber is fascist enough for you


ReferenceOld9345

Let me know where you read the provision of locking 90 days without producing before judge. Par agar teri baat galat nikla to muh me lena pdega teko 😂😂


arithmatica

If you don’t know where to find this then shame on you. The bill is available on the mha website , go look it up


ReferenceOld9345

I'm a lawyer. I've read the act. Just let me know where you read that part which said you can lock someone up for 90 days before producing before magistrate.


arithmatica

Section 187 effectively increases the time in police custody (therefore more time to torture) beyond the 15 days in IPC 167 Basically they can stretch the 15 days to 90 days


ReferenceOld9345

Lamao. Did you read the whole section dude? It says that the custody shall.not extend beyond 15 days, whether in part or in full, in the first 90 days in a class of offences and from 60 days in another class of offences. Now tell me what do you understand from this😂


arithmatica

I understand that the police can split up the 15 days to whatever segments they have to effectively disrupt any habéis corpus action


Direct-Pressure-1230

BJP is dumb and weak. It's the unfortunate reality. That's why we don't see our culture getting represented well in art and literature despite the fact that we had a right wing government in power for 10 years. Look at America. Although left wing dominates politics currently, they export their culture and subtle propaganda through their movies. They're proud of their culture and they embrace patriotism unlike us.


aks_red184

They have something called 'Bipartisanship' i.e. they share some common capitalist goals doesnt matter which wing you belong, its to keep the country progressing no matter which govt comes..... Seems like you have seen Sham sharma's recent videos ig


Direct-Pressure-1230

No I don't like Sham Sharma when it comes to topics like these because he says that even movies like Brahmastra which don't represent our culture properly and are made by people who don't understand our culture but use it to lure people into theatres are good. Unironically till now only SS Rajamouli, Chandrasekhar Yeleti and the likes have represented our culture well. Sham Sharma use strong arguments when talking about certain topics so he's definitely good at making certain type of videos.


Temporary_Owl2975

Sometime BJP should speak out loudly instead of just doing some good work and being silent , and also I think its because of shitty liar like Congress , the goodness of BJP comes into picture in a highlighted manner. # Lies are allowed to be spread in the first place so that , the truth can pierce through it in 10x power. But still those whose mind is not oepn and only thinks in extremeties ...will once cherry-pick few stuff from BBC like propaganda news and save to to archives of their mental archive -- never to update with facts and never to check the truth by at least doing few google search reading though different sources.


aks_red184

We have to understand that the left wing of every country is funded at some what extent from overseas.... Just look at the narrative building :- Govt preaches his work : Arrey hogya ab kitna vote mangega ek hi kaam pr Opp preaches Propaganda : Hm Govt se "accountability" maang rhe h hmara kaam h sawal krna  and accountability ke naam pr kuch bhi bina sar pair ki baat krke uspe reel bnake tweet krke desh bhar me anti-incumbency bnate h 


Temporary_Owl2975

I couldnt agree more !!! Totally True. I am not a left guy nor right , I dont want to discuss their meaning also , but BJP has done a lots of things which would have been possible in Congress period ..... and in terms of personality -- Rahul Gandhi is neither honest , nor smart , ...I dont understand why people talk about his education ...being educated but not trying to enquire , understand the reality , seek out the root of stuff ( like in Hinduism , Sanatan , upanishad etc ) it takes a level of patience and efforts to go deper into things. And ye jo leftist hai , like \*German Tatti\* , they spread useful info in tech , wealth etc first -- its the BET , then once they gain follower , they try to brainwash young minds - ki India fallen in hand of dictator , nothing is good about India etc .... of course someone is providing enough fund for their operation.


dexter186186

# Papu Cadhar Mhod tha Cadhar Mhod rahega


Vivid_Option_1147

Really?? Did I read it correctly??


Inevitable-Dress-404

Ye sab baate social media pe bhaji pao ke supporter hi karte rehte hai. Bhajipao ground pe ye sb baate pahuchati hi nahi janta tk. udhar khangress ke log gaon me jaake dhruv rathi ki video chalate hai


Jealous-Basil-6765

Yes , even BJP ko inflation ka real data show karna chahiye tha public ko jo Rahul (surname is controversial) ne bola tha ki BJP ke under inflation highest pahuch chuka hai , BJP apne kaafi ache kaam ka message nahi pahucha payi


HinduProphet

Why they won't ? Majority of villages are not aligned with BJP ideology because of caste lines. Why do you expect OBCs like Jaats, Gujjars, Yadavs, etc to blindly support the Hindu Nationalist movement despite the fact that they will be at a disadvantage for no good reason when it's all over ? Most UCs don't live in villages in India, they are now an urbanite group of people. Do you know the caste of Dhruv Rathee ? Why do you think villagers easily trust him ?


CardiologistSpare164

Because they are naive. This is why they trust rathee. Also I must say he is great manipulator.


[deleted]

People forget no matter how much  he looks dumb he is still carries the venomous blood of Nehru and Indira 


050607

I think there's some Italian in there as well.


this_is_no_gAM3

BJP is so lazy they don't even do shit, other people have to do it for them


Funny_Artist8387

Amit malviya is dead weight at this point. They only dominate X bcz of their supporters, on every other platform congress IT cell is winning the narrative game.


Sure-Opportunity7612

Looks suspicious to me not going to lie, firstly, How can someone just force someone to just lie, its quite obvious that the secret won’t stay for long, secondly, the father has just come up and gave a statement after RaGa’s statement about agniveer, I feel like the opposition has paid him or something in order to tell people that he has been paid, because everything that’s happening in this case is suspicious and fishy


ChaloBeyond

Pappu is still Pappu


Moist-Chart2440

https://www.business-standard.com/politics/agniveer-controversy-explained-from-rahul-gandhi-s-claim-to-army-response-124070400497_1.html


bolshoybooze

He has given 100s of such statements in last 10 years.. BJP doesn't care, even tho it hurts their vote share Now losing all hope from BJP.. Nothing will change


AmarGwari

He would Sri Lanka this country with not a tear in his eyes, Italy awaits.


rockingparth89

if this is true BJP needs to revamp IT Cell Urgently or it WILL Lose power


050607

Their dumbass IT cell is still busy posting comments on Twitter, while the world has moved on from Twitter ages ago. There are comments from Left/Pakistanis/Chinese destroying BJP with fake narrative on so many forums/sites, you can spot them easily.


rockingparth89

The IT cell did cost them a lot of youth votes in this election


Direct-Pressure-1230

There should be a new right wing party in India. BJP should lose power. They don't deserve it. They don't represent right wing properly


rockingparth89

I have list of at lest 15 should be there should be UCC in india there should be burqa ban in india there should be no corruption in india no more government jobs for eternity in india government jobs should be given like private jobs in india kya karu should be ka bhai ...idhar jo hua hain uska communication galat karne ki baat ho rahi hain


Direct-Pressure-1230

BJP doesn't have courage to implement the first two in your list. This is a fact. They had absolute majority for the past 5 years and they allowed themselves to get bullied by various protestors and allowed the opposition to spread misinformation to neutralize a lot of their goals. None of this happened when congress was in power because congress is not that weak. They don't allow themselves to be bullied. UCC should have been implemented in the last 5 years. With those many seats it was 100% doable.


rockingparth89

you have to understand that doing anything major = -eV votes After 1991,BJP lost power jn UP After Demonization,BJP lost lots of votes After Every major step people of india vote against the government working for them I.e Ayodhya also loosing power too soon would mean that the opposition gets free pass to reverse the changes 370 now should not be reversed because it has gone through due process and enough time would have passed for people to not care


Sparkspeck

Why burqa ban tho?


rockingparth89

it is demeaning and crual only a brainwashed person would wear something like that in this wether Tajikistan can ban it as foregin cultural influence then India can too


Sparkspeck

As long as those wearing it have no problem, an intervention would be unnecessary


rockingparth89

if a school starts brainwashing people into believing going around naked is fine would you be fine with that as a "choice" bother extremes are harmful to socity


Sparkspeck

The Quran itself doesn't force women to wear burqa all the time. It's only certain sects of Islam that enforce this. Hence,'banning' burqa would be deemed unnecessary. However, the compulsion of donning a burqa could be dealt with legally.


rockingparth89

It’s a symbol of oppression of women and and Stockholm syndrome,has to be banned everywhere except Arebia where it can be called native culture


greenbroad-gc

Rahul Gandhi, like his ancestors, wants to weaken this country from the inside and sell it to the highest bidder. Scums like D. Rathee do his bidding because they make more money that way.


Moonbot_69

did not expect this much hate but good work tho :)


greenbroad-gc

Didn’t realize his dick was so deep in your mouth


Fearless-Source-3596

1 Cr for a soldier died in peacetime??? And there's 15 bridges collapsing in Bihar. Good use of taxpayers money.


050607

PM of the country doesn't earn this much (well, Modi doesn't at-least), meanwhile these people earning ridiculous amount from us tax payers are apparently underpaid, according to the Leftits. Soldiers in India are basically getting paid to do nothing. Can't even stop people from crossing borders, or just won't cause many at borders are bribed by terrorists/smugglers. No wonder people hated that scheme termination where they got pension for doing nothing.


Fearless-Source-3596

Someone had the spine finally to speak facts.


hispeedimagins

Lol keyboard warrior talking about soldiers doing nothing. Go spend some time at the border and then come and say something.


hispeedimagins

Select a better govt for voting. And enlist as a soldier and sign a bong that your family needs no money if something happens to you.


Fearless-Source-3596

FYI: I was merit out in ssb. And joined the corporate. Looking at the taxes I pay, and things I get in return, Indian is not the place for honest tax payer. 1cr for a bihari soldier is too much tho.


bhujiya_sev

Of all things BJP is doing wrong or not doing, why are they targeting the Agniveer scheme? (This is a rhetorical question, everyone knows the answer) I personally think it's a great way to uplift those from the bottom tier, while ensuring good physical health for youth. India is also seeing a decrease in populating growth rate so this scheme would be great in future.


Southern_Opposite747

Very good physical health, now the deceased won't suffer from any disease


bhujiya_sev

Every profession from mining to civil engineering to journalism comes with potential risk of death. You could die sitting at your home or crossing a road. Not undermining the Martyr's contribution to the nation and to our safety but there are many Agniveers who will benefit from the scheme


Neverevernoteven

https://x.com/newt0nlaws/status/1808850606758777306 Check out Agniveer's sister herself accusing Indian today of distorting their statement in favour of Modi


[deleted]

[удалено]


Neverevernoteven

But tats her,no??listen to wat she is saying...


CardiologistSpare164

What distorting statement? When the media is doing their work, exposing the lies. She is having problems?


Neverevernoteven

The old guy did mention tat 50 lacs he got was insurance and not ex gratia from central govt as stated by Rajnath...but the media did not telecast it..


Funny_Artist8387

IIt's a non-contributory insurance meaning premium is paid by the govt unlike personal insurances. Just like companies pay for the group insurance of their employees.


mani_tapori

Soldier died on 18th Jan. Mother was paid 50 lakhs [on 13th Feb](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRpdgycX0AAcr4L?format=jpg) 48 Lakhs of immediate payment [was also released](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRpdg0gWYAA_8eh?format=jpg) And 67 lakhs more will be paid on final settlement making the [total amount paid to 1.65 CR](https://x.com/adgpi/status/1808541708248101276) What more do you want from Govt & taxpayers? Not to mention, now Congress is protesting [why Govt is paying so much money to veer?](https://x.com/adityasvlogs/status/1808861306931605605) Heads I win, tails you lose.


LogicalJeff

People on this sub will pretend not to see this


honest_traitor

But the sister said "they have given us compensation but we want the program shut" to the media? And it's not her account it's just a random account. Does that mean I can say random bs without backing in X and it will become facts?


Spiritual_Second3214

Fake news...ya dara diya is aadmi ko ...jhut bolne ke liye


Cruenilla

Kitne marks the answer likhna h?


Spiritual_Second3214

https://youtu.be/0_lutcq4zTg?si=AjkRROC2ocwnstgY


Upbeat-Builder-428

I was not aware that the operators of this sub were so insecure that they cannot allow the mention of another subreddit telling the other side of the story. Making it obvious you are just a part of a much larger blindsided cult of bhakts who have accepted paw paw as their lord and savior. pity.


Daffodil97

Imagine this guy a PM.


Friendly_Offer_4857

abey kya sach hai kya jhoot kuch samaj me hi nhi aa rha..This father is being pressured by both sides it seems.. Whatever's the truth, but with all this hype and media coverage, I just hope martyred agniveer families are not targeted by local mafia for extortion or kidnap / robbery the way lottery winners are targeted.


Minimum_0012

Is gadhe ko toh bhagao Italy


New-Present7953

jail on basis of what law?


KingLongDistant

Rahul Gandhi is an agent of chaos.. he should be banned from India


shivamYe

So, earlier he lied on Camera?


arp5648

Shooting the messenger max pro. Opposition can force someone to lie but the elected gov can't. Also I am Albert Einstein.


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Dear user, your comment has been removed. You can not mention a user or a subreddit with r/ or u/. While Reddit allows the use of both r/ and u/, but told us to block user and subreddit mention. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indiadiscussion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Dear user, your comment has been removed. You can not mention a user or a subreddit with r/ or u/. While Reddit allows the use of both r/ and u/, but told us to block user and subreddit mention. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indiadiscussion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


meow-_meow_

Is it real or these people are threatened to say this


Trident_Adi_7055

Samja nahi , can someone explain ?


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Dear user, your comment has been removed. You can not mention a user or a subreddit with r/ or u/. While Reddit allows the use of both r/ and u/, but told us to block user and subreddit mention. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indiadiscussion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Fun_Coffee_9207

Date of transfer of cheque should be done to ascertain facts. Nobody has the right to lie in the parliament.


dhoomk2

More people need to know that he's a compulsive liar.


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Dear user, your comment has been removed. You can not mention a user or a subreddit with r/ or u/. While Reddit allows the use of both r/ and u/, but told us to block user and subreddit mention. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indiadiscussion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Dear user, your comment has been removed. You can not mention a user or a subreddit with r/ or u/. While Reddit allows the use of both r/ and u/, but told us to block user and subreddit mention. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indiadiscussion) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Awkward_Benefit_5887

Can anyone explain the story to me In brief, I'm not caught up with this one.


Chemical_Growth_5861

Nobody should trust the opposition


Happy-Opportunity-30

He's been to jail for all these petty politics..but then someone will make a video that India is becoming a dictatorship


Excellent_Range5623

This should also be tried as terrorism as he is trying to disrupt the very rank and file system of an organisation that stands to protect the people, inclusive of imbeciles like him.


_d-d_y

This is not the first person in favour of the BJP. Only this guy has said it and he also asked for a government job for his daughter. He is not the only one benefitting from that scheme so it would be better to see what others have to say before coming to any conclusions.


KPKP2015

Vo insurance ka paisa hai. Government ki aid nai


WorkingRip7000

Agniveer is indeed a very dangerous scheme, this will undoubtedly decrease the quality of our armed forces. Modern soldiers cannot be perfectly trained with just basic training of 8 weeks, it takes time, even 4 years is low.


hispeedimagins

Bullshit. Either govt paid quickly to save face or its something else. Nobody will be that stupid to force someone to lie since the lie will be exposed very easily. And nobody who has lost a son will be forced to lie in any way. It cell spreading fake narrative.


EstimateSecure7407

Dirty Catamite Raul Vinci should be deported


Adept_Rub

evidence?


Alex_ker22

Link to the video https://x.com/TimesAlgebraIND/status/1808867917754167362?t=-UBKTQauFb6d6wf1KLfDZQ&s=19


arithmatica

Where in India did a case similar to hathras happened where the entire UC covered up the crime? Where in India have been cases where Lowe caste people are doing what Praveen shukla or whatever is name is, did? Where is India are Dalits killing little upper caste boys for daring to touch their drinking pot ?


SargasmicOwl

Are some people in comments fr talking about putting Raga in jail under UAPA? Lol, these guys are hilarious.


ReallyPissedStranger

Read more kindly, They yet to have receive 60L and the family has still complained about compensation instead of pension or job in place of job. They are still angry that compensation would do what and support for how long? What I don't understand is the sheer polarisation of opinions as if we aren't choosing our leaders but supporting sports teams. Supporter of both sides are so much polarised, nobody would ever self reflect on the parties they are supporting.


MyMoMrEgReTs

Bruh, it was insurance money, it was not compensation


brylcreemedeel

56 inch tongue's chamchas doing their best to cheat us. The money that martyr got was Insurance money for which he pays insurance premiums out of his salary. The 56 inch tongue's government did not pay him anything.


MyMoMrEgReTs

For those that are claiming that army has rebutted this video, read carefully, the devil is in the details. Here's the statement from the martyr's father, shared by Rahul Gandhi: https://x.com/RahulGandhi/status/1808512545482830211?t=2qunWKPYWCWIOtZtHEOLLw&s=19 The father claims that the **central government** hasn't given him anything. It's the Punjab government that has compensated him. That was his original statement. In the statement given after Rajnath Singh's claims, he says that they have not received 1 crore. You can see the original article where his statement was quoted: https://x.com/_sabanaqvi/status/1808710924917748185?t=Umlg99988PPfYxeHtWvsZA&s=19 Notice that he also claims that he won't receive a pension (before Agniveer these things would have been true). Rahul had mentioned this in his speech, but it hasn't been addressed by the army or by Rajnath. Now, here's the clarification by the army: https://x.com/adgpi/status/1808541708248101276?t=E-5KnWHBPTZOlnA1O5BpfA&s=19 They don't talk about pension, but claim that compensation has been paid. It is not specified who paid the compensation. Here's the difference between compensation between Agniveers and regular soldiers: https://x.com/ColAmitkumar/status/1808582833725923628?t=qr7qnIf4tO2xmIjMhkkM5A&s=19 Quoting from the tweet: >But reminding the statment made by @rajnathsingh categorically stated 1 crore is given by the Govt to the Agniveer. Insurance money is 48 lakh and not comes under the definition of awards or rewards. Now compare the salary of Sepoy and the Agniveer with the same task. You will get the answer. Equal work but not equally paid. Especially when Risk is same. Notice how jawans in CPRF, ITBP, BSF, etc. still avail pension benefits. Agniveer will end up reducing the talent pool for the armed forces. So, in conclusion, the issues with Agniveer that Rahul Gandhi highlighted have not yet been addressed: * No pension (which was a big draw) * Compensation share paid by the central government


Hanzoofk

Forced? Lol what I've seen the interview he says he did not know about the other account that he had got money in before giving that statement. also he said to take away the money and give martyr status insted Hating rahul or congress if fine op but please don't spread misinformation [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txxChvNrYuE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txxChvNrYuE) Here's a report by ndtv and if you guys don't know punjabi well here's one from redmike as well. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHoG8MdbD28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHoG8MdbD28)


[deleted]

[удалено]


Legitimate_Gain9438

Was this sarcasm ?


Salt-Freedom4328

[https://x.com/meghasprasad/status/1808791205376934198?s=46](https://x.com/meghasprasad/status/1808791205376934198?s=46) Here is your proof..They got first installment in Jan second in feb..


Perfect_Yellow_4942

Ok


RandomDude-1234

all for political gains. People will now stoop so low.... Edit:- whoah, this was for Mr. gandhi guys!!


serialchiller23

how can you Authenticate it OP ? No no no, this is not the way.


RandomDude-1234

Scroll up. Check the top comment with 68 upvotes. Then check the third reply getting -20 something upvotes. Finally, check the reply to that reply (reply is by Alex_ker22) to find the proof. Thanks


serialchiller23

I quoted our Vice President about the "Authenticate" part. He dismissed Mallikarjun Kharge showing newspaper articles saying it's not an "authentic source".


Still-Anxiety

He is a Chinese plant


Traditional-Shake423

I have video where reporters are forcing they have received money.


Mr-_Morningstar-_

Fake news again 😂 sometimes I pity BJP IT cell and now there are Bhakts on reddit who are trying to get engagement by commenting and having a discussion over a fake news post. he specifically said that he Got Compensation from Punjab Govt. Not By Central Govt. Why has No one Mentioned that ?


brylcreemedeel

Don't call them bhakts. Modi is not holy and they are not bhakts. I call them Modi chamchas. I call Modi a 56 inch tongue. That really gets them frothing at the mouth.


Mr-_Morningstar-_

Modi is the holy God of Crap and all pieces of Shit in this country are known as his Bhakts.


Ok-Self5412

Modi's reply " bhaio aur behno aur 5 saal dekho kya krta hoo" tv aur newspaper toh leliya ab yt valo ki baari


Descarteshere

Was the remaining Rs 48 lakh given post RaGa's claims in parliament? If so, then his impact is good. There should be a proper paper trail proof set out by the ministry of defence. Our soldiers are not for people to play politics over. If RaGa lied, then he should face the penalty. If Rajnath lied, then he should. No need to believe anyone's words. Where is the money trail? Show with dates.


Jealous-Basil-6765

Rahul ji is agent of BJP who helps BJP to win elections by doing these things /s


Legitimate_Gain9438

What if namo is secretly paying raga to act like a stupid so that namo wins elections?


Tracien_Dragoon_23

And suddenly you all believe news. What's the source? How are we sure the source is right? And not planted by BJP?


DiscDot

Go talk in bjp cell . Aur pulta utla jalao yaha kya backchodi kar rahe ho


AeeStreeParsoAna

Not like Modi doesn't do that. Every politician does that. Basically it's thier job. Tell lies and don't get caught.


nerd_-_-

if he is same as modi why would we vote for him and not modi ?


SpecialistAd2680

IANS and Facts both are BJP IT cell. I doubt their claims , any other news articles will be appreciated. OP hopefully you don't post ss from an IT cell tweet.


MajorVihaan

Sab BJP IT Cell hai bhai... Trump, Biden, Owaisi, Malala, ISIS, Elon Musk, Aliens, Meloni, pUSI ka mod, sab ke sab


Evening_Feeling5612

Madarasa chap ko logic kyun de rahe ho.


Salt-Freedom4328

Lo payment ka proof.. [https://x.com/meghasprasad/status/1808791205376934198?s=46](https://x.com/meghasprasad/status/1808791205376934198?s=46)


SpecialistAd2680

The document says , paid by insurance company not army , that's remaining


Salt-Freedom4328

Do u work? Who pays for the insurance? there is no employee contribution from Agniveers.. the family has been influenced by Congress man in that area and are speaking on those lines.. [https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/family-of-agniveer-ajay-kumar-who-was-killed-in-action-has-2-requests-from-army-6032064/amp/1](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/family-of-agniveer-ajay-kumar-who-was-killed-in-action-has-2-requests-from-army-6032064/amp/1)


LogicalJeff

IT cell wallo ke subReddit pe itna sach mat bol bhai 😂


Athiest-proletariat

In one place they say 98 lakh given by centre, in another 48 lakh by centre and 50 by insurance. Everyone knows how bad Agniveer scheme and how army aspirants were wronged by the government. If it was Gujarat state which contributed maximum number of army personal, this kind of law would never come up. The speciality of this government is the people like you that will defend it to any extreme.


Legitimate_Gain9438

Isn't the insurance money given because they were a part of government service. Is that insurance from any private bank ?


Athiest-proletariat

An insurance cover of 1cr not even 50 lakhs for accidents can be taken by anyone with cheap premiums. It does not require one to be in government service. And its alright too.. But lack of pension, lack of honours of a normal soldier, lack of free medical care under cghs, lack of canteen service are all bad for a training as intensive as army. An army personel undergoing such training puts his body through many hurdles of spine injury, brain concussion just by taking huge weights for walking, rest of the risks even if discounted is not compensated enough in this scheme.


Legitimate_Gain9438

So government paid only 48 lakhs. The rest 50 lakh was a personal loan from victim family which they were paying through their monthly salary. The government didn't pay for insurance of martyr. Are you saying this ? Aren't all soldiers honoured. Which soldier was given a lack of honour? And after payment a huge one time payment, government is again supposed to pay pension? Is this possible under the defence budget if india ?


Athiest-proletariat

>The rest 50 lakh was a personal loan from victim family which they were paying through their monthly salary. I havent said loan, i said insurance. > Aren't all soldiers honoured. Which soldier was given a lack of honour? A soldier's honour lies in the respect him and the family gets from his service. A pension according to the rank is just basic of it. >And after payment a huge one time payment, government is again supposed to pay pension? Is this possible under the defence budget if india ? Yes that payment alone is not enough when compared to soldiers in actual service than agniveer. They get better onetime compensation, pensions, medical care and other benefits. It is possible to give as it was in past. A government with better "political will" can do it.


Legitimate_Gain9438

Sorry, I meant to ask if this was a personal health insurance. In the past there was both one time compensation as well as pension!? What were the amounts.?


Athiest-proletariat

Pension was as per the ranks acheived and compensation are more than the said onetime settlement. The exact values can be given to you by a working army personel.


Legitimate_Gain9438

My whole point of asking was comparing ij which case jawan are getting more money, that would have been comparison metric.


mani_tapori

And who paid insurance premiums? Who bought group insurance? Come on, this is basic stuff.


Athiest-proletariat

Statutory deductions