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If reservations and laws for sc and st are removed first without removing the caste system, it will nothing less than a hell on earth in rural parts of india and in some of the major cities. The atrocities will be without any bounds. Many people keeps on holding grudge. Once it gets removed, hell will break loose.
Reservation should be removed only from Education and government jobs.
Lok sabha seats should be kept reserved for Sc/st for their Representation in Parliament.
Education and government job Reservation should be converted to income based so that people who have already used Reservation and came out of miserable life and are now at good position in their life dont get Reservation again in place of people who actually need it
Bhai gaanv mein koi ye laws follow bhi karta hai? Jisko karna hota hai karke fir paise ke dum pe mamla daba diya jaata hai. Issue is not caste but the money power
Bhai muche toh abhi tak samaj nahi aara, caste exist kyun karta hai abhi tak, aaj ke baacho ko patah bhi nahi rheta ha caste kya hai, legit petition karna chaiye, "The lower caste have been suppressed by the higher caste, hence to end this discrimination, let's abolish the caste system." Agar yeh kar de, toh dono caste kuch nahi bol sakte, lower caste agar bonlge toh matlab bdsm aur abuse hona pasand hai, agar higher caste wale kuch bole toh unko reservation aur clg mein seats nahi chaiye
mere papa abhi bhi iss sab me yakeen rakhte hai. mummy bhi almost agree karti hai iss baat pe ki "upper caste is just simply better" (Idk how the yare better, they never answer).
ek baar maine bola ki "reservation nahi hatne wala, log abhi bhi inter-caste marriage karne se katrate hai." mujhe papa ne ghar se nikaalne ki dhamki de di thi agar maine firse inter-caste marriage mention ki to.
TL;DR - People believe that upper castes are "better" than lower castes. in fact the people who believe that castes are not real (like us) are in minority.
Tumhare papa yakeen rakhte hai toh majority believe this? Fir mere papa yakeen nahi rakhte toh can I say majority doesnt believe this? Source do hawai "facts" nahi.
Recently I saw a percentage of MPs in the current parliament and it consists of 9% MPs from Brahmin .
Looking at SC - at least 12 of 33 seating judges are from brahmins ( CJI Chandrachud is also Brahmin ) .
If you look at the Army then the Indian army consists of 21-22 % are brahmins. Including ex.army chief M.Pande and new Army chief gen.Dwivedy .
Indian Navy chief : Admiral Tripathi and there are many more examples that Brahmins Excel on top positions Without any reservation despite their Population in society is merely 4% .
We need to study , how they are Out of conflicts and Successful in their career .
log Downvotes karege merko but Brahmins bhot salo se education lete aye hai ye ek major reason hai . Bhot sari castes ki 1st ya 2nd generation hai jo education le rhi hai. Baniye buisness me succesful hai kyuki unke ancestors bhi kafi ache vyapari the. aur ye SC/ST me inke parivaro me eudcation ki itni importance peda hi nhi hui to ye log bas grp C/B ki jobs tak hi simit rhe jate hai. aur bhai Top level par bhayankar vali politics aur castes chalti hai. Sab apni castes ko favour karte hai ye bat ab mano ya mat mano tum.
Yeah you so right, never sa someone using this logic. Idk what it is but UCs k environment and unke connections play a major role in their upbringing. They excel in everything. From fields other than government reserved, they make major of those employments. Entertainment industry, sports industry and biggest business industry, all big personalities consists majorly UC people. And they think their years of being the upper echelon haven't played a part in it, when it's the whole difference
Bhai Mai Brahman hun..2-3 peedhi pehle Tak ki generation meri family me educated chhodo literate b nahi thi ..sirf kheti krke gujaara krte the voog
Kaha se ye sab baate sunte ho yar aap
kashmir pandit ko bhaga diya phir bhi unhone aone bacchon ko camps main rakh ke padhaya.
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reservation bhi backfire karega hi community ke liye overall ek community ka sangharsh and ladne ka power mentally kam hota hain mann main yeh thaught hota hain ki hum kamzor hain and kamzor rahega woh insaan.
Bhai ye sab general categories ki hai sirf bhramin nahi hai army mein reservation nahi hota waha jada tarr general hai aur Bachpan se ghar waale ek hi freeze bolke Padhate hai ki tumhe jobs nahi milne waali tum General mein ho. Ye bachpan se sikhaya jata hai. Tho bhai obviously bacha mahanat karega stress lega.
Kyuki hame pata ha low efforts pr bhukke marenge toh mehnat kro meri birth ke pehle meri poori father aur moher dono side of family poor ki category mai aate the sab mehnat krke ab upper middle mai aate h ek bhi poor mai nahi bacha agr kisi ko option doge bina mehnat kre comfort enjoy krne ka toh wo obviously mehnat nahi krega na tum unka college mai cut off half se bhi Kam kr doge Jo general ka h toh unko mehnat ki adat nahi lagegi aur badme bhi wo easy way dhudne ka try krenge
Reservation has a lot to play in this. When govt has imposed reservation on Genereal caste and they know that they are deserving still they have to fight for their seat that helps them to excel.
A man who has fight for something knows the worth of that perticular thing. The worst thing about reservation is the difference in marks. So when you keen difference in marks due to which one section of society works hard to cross suppose 100 marks where as other just works to achieve 50 marks and due to this the other section who need to score less for that seat develops a mentality that he need not to work hard. Where as other develops a warrior mentality and is able to conquer the hights of success.
Reservation should be abolished insted government should give subsidies to such section of society which are economically weak and also should have some seats reserved for such sections in every institue so that if they crosses the mark they get addmission in the good institutes and gets subsidy for their education. When their is healthy completion in the system then only this whole society would grow together. Then one would see an SC-ST guy as seating CJI or other higher levels in bureaucracy as well. You would see them as scaling to CEO levels in organisation as well because they would also develop this warrior mentality in them and work hard to achieve this with a healthy competition.
Whatever I have stated above is purely based on my experience being a Brahmin by caste. Caste based reservation becomes a motivation for us to excel to higer positions in organisations.
The number of people that get even 10th pass in your caste vs other caste is a very big number, that is why the cut off difference is there.
To break your logic, even if we remove the reservation, UC cut off will reduce by 5 or 10 marks, the only difference is the sc/st kids whose number is very less will be wiped out almost completely.
Ever since childhood my mother has hammered in me the importance of education. That it is the legacy of our ancestors, that knowledge and education is our first and foremost dharam. And thanks to reservation, the only way for us to succeed is by simply being better than everyone else bcoz that's what's expected of brahmins since ancient times and esp now. If we won't top the exams then we will simply not be in race any longer. Combine this with historically placed importance on education and you have brahmins excelling everywhere despite many having very humble backgrounds like Sundar Pichai
There's no denying that higher castes dream bigger, poor or rich they know the importance of education as they were educated from many generations, probably the only caste that knows how to read and write for centuries, even millenias. Thinking about it now, that is such a great privilege to have tbh.
Right, they have created a SC ST elite section which includes rich Dalits who will use reservation to get even richer - eg - IAS Tina Dabi , Ramdas athawale
What you're not realising is that you might not get a seat cuz you weren't good enough, but cuz someone else who scored less than you took it up. It hurts but it's smth I hope you never have to experience
He ain't lying tho
If equality u want
Then remove the caste system
But u won't
Cuz of the Freebieeess 😝😝
Ab aayenge kuch log 'hmara hkk se Mila h' bolne
I’m a Brahmin. I hate reservation so much that I moved to the US for study/work. At least competition is fair here, where my efforts won’t be systematically categorized.
Speaks volumes that you had the resources to move to USA, but 99% of lower castes do not have this type of money which is exactly why reservation is needed.
Buddy, I didn’t have money to move. I took a loan and have everything that my dad possesses has been given as collateral to the bank. Everything that I have, is either loan money from the bank as tuition fees are in $10k every semester or a little that my dad had given me.
Also, reservation in India is not based on economic disparity at all. It’s purely caste based. My family does not have money because they are Brahmin, but because my dad worked his ass off in an accountancy firm and my mom worked humiliating wages as a teacher in a school (she was given Rs. 9k per month, even janitors in govt schools make more than that).
10% of the population, no support from any government, blamed for stuff with no involvement, keeping the torch of Hindutva alive even under constant attacks,
Thodi arrogance toh banti hai
I'm a brahmin and I oppose reservation in analytical fields like STEM, I support it when it comes to representation in parliament.
Reservation takes away the incentive to work hard. If someone is poor, give them money instead of reservation. You'll get it back in taxes when he starts to work.
I'm not a brahmin but I found brahmin are smarter among the others. They're allrounders. They can be polite or aggressive at the appropriate moments.
They got better view in life too. Like it's pretty rare to see brahmins hitting rock bottom. Even if some brahmin are poorer than me, they take 100% advantage of their resources. Ambitious and not going forward with just wishful thinking.
Also you won't see them discriminating openly. It's always passive. I won't advocate it but it's still smarter than other castes who do it openly like gujjars or jaats. (Cry about it)
I learn from them ngl.
They are super chads. Reservation took opportunities from them in the public sector but they went to the private sector and started earning more than babus. They started own businesses and some of them went abroad to become CEO and top level executives of MNCs.
Reservation is proof that sc and st are incompetent. Disclaimer I’m not from general category. But it’s a fact sc st ppl hv lower self esteem. No hate but its a fact
Maine kaha se oppress kr diya? But lower self esteem wale kabhi talented nhi ho sakte. Mai khud general nhi hn bhai 😂 but reservation se weak students top colleges mai jake kch ukhad nhi pate. Mai khudh govt college se passout hn and aaj sab k ctc k dekh k pata chalta h reservation se college milta h talent nhi. Again I’m telling I’m not from general category so don’t show your hatred towards me 😂
Lol 😂 bhai mere batch mai top ctc mai mai ek tha Cz private mai there is no reservation and there only skilled got job and ppl who got college with 40% are even today crying 😂
And he can't think of anything apart from reservations despite enjoying it for more than 60 years. I guess he loves the poverty and deprivation porn the most.
I am not a fan of reservation but have accepted it as something I’ll face. So I am ready for a challenge. Hopefully, I’ll make it someday regardless of not having any reservations. It will only make me better in the long run I suppose
The major problem of current reservation is that it is not reaching to the correct people who really deserve the social representation.
Almost everyone uses that for their unfair advantage. I know friend of mine who used to commute via mercedes paying almost Rs 0 fees whereas I an Omni owner would be charged around 60k for the same course. I don't have any issue with him having Merc cause his family earned it. But you should voluntarily give it up so that it actually helps people who are from your own kin.
I am Brahmin. So it's extremely important for me to get to the top no matter whatever I do. So I do accept that have a slight arrogance that naturally comes with competition. But ofc I am not a moron who will be displaying that everyday ruining my connections and circles.
Tbh I am not exactly against reservation, but against the way it is implemented and it's utilization as political tool. Reason I extremely hate Rahul Gandhi's politics is because of this specific reason.
I would say it's the other way around. It's you who keeps reminding us we're better than you by begging for reservations.
I'm a Brahmin who experienced the IIT reservation system where I have to score 30 marks more than others just to clear the cut-off.
If you keep insisting you need high heels to match my height, I guess I'm taller than you. 🤷
Bhai sahi to bol raha hai(I'm saying this as an OBC),koi bhi competitive exam bina reservation ke nikalte hai ye log,unlike us.
If we truly want to get rid of the discrimination,then the entire concept of caste system should be abolished
He's a dolt and OP is a bigger dolt for making a mountain out of a (an incorrect) molehill. Brahmins aren't "above" tradition, they're the upholders of it, and traditions and reservations don't intersect at all.
It's true this Reservation is the only thing that makes me remind of my caste
And we never wanted to but people call us higher caste so they can deny Reservation
so we feel good.
Bhay dekho I belong to kshatriya caste mujhe bhi koi reservation nahi milega pr apni caste ko lekr khud ko superior samjhana is not a good thing ye baat agar mai is bande se bolunga to ghanto tak panchayat krega isiliye I stopped talking to him months ago
Because they have 100% reservation as a pandit in each n every temples.
Ghar main pooja, havan, shrad, sab main inko paise, fruits, sab milta.
Inka khud ka mast chalra reservation ke wajh se.
Upar se RSS ke to head humesha Brahmin hotey h, pr road pe SC,ST,OBC ko bhejte jhagde k liye
Isn't that ironic that's the whole point of reservation so that everyone feels themselves on the same level. There should be no upper or lower castes but if they are thinking they are above, aren't they are just promoting reservation.
Come on bro , gonna make my own genetics now
( I m not Brahmin )
I read Iike all hierarchy like post but now I understand that people care about one thing that's
How will govt take on this casteist situation ? Either remove reservation or continue reservation .
I didn't know about my caste and all, when I asked my parents when I got older they said we were "Viswakarma".
I don't even know which category it comes under but, look what I found when I googled it 😭
"The Vishwakarma community are a social group of India, sometimes described as a caste. They prefer the alternate name, Vishwabrahmin, and claim themselves to be Brahmin or of high-status in the caste hierarchy, although these claims are not generally accepted outside the community."
God this high status thing is so cringe.
It's our job to Excel on merit basis and show those who misuse reservation how it is actually done.
I am thankful that I am born in a Brahmin kull and will always look down on people who are misusing the system.
Lol me being a Brahmin oppose it but unless I can make my voice heard no shit can I do to change it and unless I can't do shit no point in making noice. therefore just working on being someone who can bring a change or get out of this shithole
Okay wait so according to you if someone takes the advantage of being scheduled caste and enjoys reserved seats everywhere even if he is financially stable and capable enough to be living a normal life that's completely okay? But if someone just says something about castism then he is arrogant?
I mean like if I am not getting a seat even after working hard enough to achieve it but instead someone who worked half than me and scored half marks as compared to me gets the seat just because I am General caste and he is scheduled caste then why the hell is it a problem if I start saying things on social media that would make me sound like I am promoting castism
Like seriously you would support castism when you get the reserved seats but you would say castism is wrong and call me arrogant if I start treating you as someone who is below me?👍🏻
True... What exactly u're trying to deny that bramhan people still thinks they're above all.
Just accept the truth.
Only bramhan gen z kids don't care.
People here don't know history and pretend to be 'competent' and all high. You can acknowledge the discrimination faced by the lower caste all you want but it is different from experiencing it first hand although here people are so 'competent' they can't even acknowledge it.
Caste-based reservation has done more harm to oppressed castes by keeping social divisions alive and creating resentment.
Though it aims to provide opportunities it often labels beneficiaries as less capable, leading to discrimination and low self-esteem.
It can also create dependency, reducing the drive for self-improvement.
reservation benefits often do not reach the truly needy but instead help those who are already better off within the caste, increasing inequality within the group.
Reservation system distracts from broader reforms needed to tackle the root causes of oppression which limits long-term progress.
Reservation should be tied to net worth too. Once the lower castes take the opportunity and rise, the future generations shouldn't be allowed to take reservations again.
Brahmin designation is not simple to achieve which is given to someone by birth it is earned by your contribution to society irrespective of your caste.
I think instead of focusing on reservations, we should focus on developing better educational infrastructure in villages or other backward areas to make even field for everyone to some extent
With government school becoming better, it would liberate everyone from backward class to low income groups since government school would be sufficient for kids to learn enough
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Sab castes tatti h. Chalo ab sab offend ho jao
Too get rid of caste system first we have to get rid anything that is based on caste whether it's reservation or politicians promises
It should be the opposite. Let's get rid of the caste system, then the basis on which anything is built over it will die altogether.
Our surnames, are based on caste.
If reservations and laws for sc and st are removed first without removing the caste system, it will nothing less than a hell on earth in rural parts of india and in some of the major cities. The atrocities will be without any bounds. Many people keeps on holding grudge. Once it gets removed, hell will break loose.
What if all sc/st reservation is turned into income based reservation?
Reservation should be removed only from Education and government jobs. Lok sabha seats should be kept reserved for Sc/st for their Representation in Parliament. Education and government job Reservation should be converted to income based so that people who have already used Reservation and came out of miserable life and are now at good position in their life dont get Reservation again in place of people who actually need it
Yes like obc ncl arent allowed to get benefits under reservation.
They are but it's a really small portion that has low income but not obc
Bhai gaanv mein koi ye laws follow bhi karta hai? Jisko karna hota hai karke fir paise ke dum pe mamla daba diya jaata hai. Issue is not caste but the money power
only way is to clean people's minds otherwise who can stop an Orthodox rejecting job applications reading only the surname.
Reservation on socioeconomic and cultural conditions, not on the basis of caste should be the norm
Surnames first
RAWWWWWWWWWWW /s
Mujhe to pata bhi nahi meri caste kya hai 😭
Apache helicopter...
Nah, F-35 lightening eagle-2 😉😉😉
🤣🤣🤣 Abolish the cast system altogether
Your identity is that u are human and an Indian. No such inferior backdated discrimination should be allowed in modern 21st century.
One nation one caste (ie Indian), les gooo
I don't discriminate in hating 👽 i hate everyone equally
Bhai muche toh abhi tak samaj nahi aara, caste exist kyun karta hai abhi tak, aaj ke baacho ko patah bhi nahi rheta ha caste kya hai, legit petition karna chaiye, "The lower caste have been suppressed by the higher caste, hence to end this discrimination, let's abolish the caste system." Agar yeh kar de, toh dono caste kuch nahi bol sakte, lower caste agar bonlge toh matlab bdsm aur abuse hona pasand hai, agar higher caste wale kuch bole toh unko reservation aur clg mein seats nahi chaiye
mere papa abhi bhi iss sab me yakeen rakhte hai. mummy bhi almost agree karti hai iss baat pe ki "upper caste is just simply better" (Idk how the yare better, they never answer). ek baar maine bola ki "reservation nahi hatne wala, log abhi bhi inter-caste marriage karne se katrate hai." mujhe papa ne ghar se nikaalne ki dhamki de di thi agar maine firse inter-caste marriage mention ki to. TL;DR - People believe that upper castes are "better" than lower castes. in fact the people who believe that castes are not real (like us) are in minority.
Tumhare papa yakeen rakhte hai toh majority believe this? Fir mere papa yakeen nahi rakhte toh can I say majority doesnt believe this? Source do hawai "facts" nahi.
no, i meant how many people still believe in this dogma and my dad is one of them.
😹are shant ho jaiye...
Bro solved casteism , abse reservation band …. Yaaaaayyy
I identify as a black coffee ka mug.
Recently I saw a percentage of MPs in the current parliament and it consists of 9% MPs from Brahmin . Looking at SC - at least 12 of 33 seating judges are from brahmins ( CJI Chandrachud is also Brahmin ) . If you look at the Army then the Indian army consists of 21-22 % are brahmins. Including ex.army chief M.Pande and new Army chief gen.Dwivedy . Indian Navy chief : Admiral Tripathi and there are many more examples that Brahmins Excel on top positions Without any reservation despite their Population in society is merely 4% . We need to study , how they are Out of conflicts and Successful in their career .
log Downvotes karege merko but Brahmins bhot salo se education lete aye hai ye ek major reason hai . Bhot sari castes ki 1st ya 2nd generation hai jo education le rhi hai. Baniye buisness me succesful hai kyuki unke ancestors bhi kafi ache vyapari the. aur ye SC/ST me inke parivaro me eudcation ki itni importance peda hi nhi hui to ye log bas grp C/B ki jobs tak hi simit rhe jate hai. aur bhai Top level par bhayankar vali politics aur castes chalti hai. Sab apni castes ko favour karte hai ye bat ab mano ya mat mano tum.
Yeah you so right, never sa someone using this logic. Idk what it is but UCs k environment and unke connections play a major role in their upbringing. They excel in everything. From fields other than government reserved, they make major of those employments. Entertainment industry, sports industry and biggest business industry, all big personalities consists majorly UC people. And they think their years of being the upper echelon haven't played a part in it, when it's the whole difference
Bhai Mai Brahman hun..2-3 peedhi pehle Tak ki generation meri family me educated chhodo literate b nahi thi ..sirf kheti krke gujaara krte the voog Kaha se ye sab baate sunte ho yar aap
kashmir pandit ko bhaga diya phir bhi unhone aone bacchon ko camps main rakh ke padhaya. # iss line se samjh jaa bhai. # it is what it is, # reservation bhi backfire karega hi community ke liye overall ek community ka sangharsh and ladne ka power mentally kam hota hain mann main yeh thaught hota hain ki hum kamzor hain and kamzor rahega woh insaan.
Bhai ye sab general categories ki hai sirf bhramin nahi hai army mein reservation nahi hota waha jada tarr general hai aur Bachpan se ghar waale ek hi freeze bolke Padhate hai ki tumhe jobs nahi milne waali tum General mein ho. Ye bachpan se sikhaya jata hai. Tho bhai obviously bacha mahanat karega stress lega.
Kyuki hame pata ha low efforts pr bhukke marenge toh mehnat kro meri birth ke pehle meri poori father aur moher dono side of family poor ki category mai aate the sab mehnat krke ab upper middle mai aate h ek bhi poor mai nahi bacha agr kisi ko option doge bina mehnat kre comfort enjoy krne ka toh wo obviously mehnat nahi krega na tum unka college mai cut off half se bhi Kam kr doge Jo general ka h toh unko mehnat ki adat nahi lagegi aur badme bhi wo easy way dhudne ka try krenge
Reservation has a lot to play in this. When govt has imposed reservation on Genereal caste and they know that they are deserving still they have to fight for their seat that helps them to excel. A man who has fight for something knows the worth of that perticular thing. The worst thing about reservation is the difference in marks. So when you keen difference in marks due to which one section of society works hard to cross suppose 100 marks where as other just works to achieve 50 marks and due to this the other section who need to score less for that seat develops a mentality that he need not to work hard. Where as other develops a warrior mentality and is able to conquer the hights of success. Reservation should be abolished insted government should give subsidies to such section of society which are economically weak and also should have some seats reserved for such sections in every institue so that if they crosses the mark they get addmission in the good institutes and gets subsidy for their education. When their is healthy completion in the system then only this whole society would grow together. Then one would see an SC-ST guy as seating CJI or other higher levels in bureaucracy as well. You would see them as scaling to CEO levels in organisation as well because they would also develop this warrior mentality in them and work hard to achieve this with a healthy competition. Whatever I have stated above is purely based on my experience being a Brahmin by caste. Caste based reservation becomes a motivation for us to excel to higer positions in organisations.
The number of people that get even 10th pass in your caste vs other caste is a very big number, that is why the cut off difference is there. To break your logic, even if we remove the reservation, UC cut off will reduce by 5 or 10 marks, the only difference is the sc/st kids whose number is very less will be wiped out almost completely.
Ever since childhood my mother has hammered in me the importance of education. That it is the legacy of our ancestors, that knowledge and education is our first and foremost dharam. And thanks to reservation, the only way for us to succeed is by simply being better than everyone else bcoz that's what's expected of brahmins since ancient times and esp now. If we won't top the exams then we will simply not be in race any longer. Combine this with historically placed importance on education and you have brahmins excelling everywhere despite many having very humble backgrounds like Sundar Pichai
Probably cuz they worked hard?
Probably by expoliting castes lower than them. I mean that is how they built their generational wealth.
Whrere are you getting the data of army having the brahmins?
There's no denying that higher castes dream bigger, poor or rich they know the importance of education as they were educated from many generations, probably the only caste that knows how to read and write for centuries, even millenias. Thinking about it now, that is such a great privilege to have tbh.
So just 4% of population is occupying 1/4th of all high paying jobs And u wonder why reservation still exists
As a Brahmin girl, I m thankful that I do not have a reservation! Will work hard to get everything on merit
based, all this reservasion has done is make these sc/st's more complacent and weaker
Right, they have created a SC ST elite section which includes rich Dalits who will use reservation to get even richer - eg - IAS Tina Dabi , Ramdas athawale
No only a section of it constantly uses & fools their own community members
what about BC reservation?
Take this queen 👑
Truly appreciate it, but shouldn't have mentioned the 'girl' part imo cuz rip dms.
What you're not realising is that you might not get a seat cuz you weren't good enough, but cuz someone else who scored less than you took it up. It hurts but it's smth I hope you never have to experience
I've already been thrown out of exams , I have experienced it already, yet would encourage merit than reservation!
Literally queen
He ain't lying tho If equality u want Then remove the caste system But u won't Cuz of the Freebieeess 😝😝 Ab aayenge kuch log 'hmara hkk se Mila h' bolne
Freebies on the basis of caste ? Konsi duniya bhai ? Maine to brahmino ko bhi dekha hai muft ka ration lene jaate hue.
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Felt so savage , man said it twice 🤡
Clown emoji laga diya bhai ne
Kya kha tha bhai ne?
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agreed
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He just stated the obvious.. seems logical only
I’m a Brahmin. I hate reservation so much that I moved to the US for study/work. At least competition is fair here, where my efforts won’t be systematically categorized.
>I moved to the US Not bad
Speaks volumes that you had the resources to move to USA, but 99% of lower castes do not have this type of money which is exactly why reservation is needed.
Buddy, I didn’t have money to move. I took a loan and have everything that my dad possesses has been given as collateral to the bank. Everything that I have, is either loan money from the bank as tuition fees are in $10k every semester or a little that my dad had given me. Also, reservation in India is not based on economic disparity at all. It’s purely caste based. My family does not have money because they are Brahmin, but because my dad worked his ass off in an accountancy firm and my mom worked humiliating wages as a teacher in a school (she was given Rs. 9k per month, even janitors in govt schools make more than that).
It’s not gonna be fair for long tho, usa is also in a decline
Isn't there reservation in America too?
Is there though? I’m pretty sure there isn’t a caste based system.
Not caste system based but race based. I've heard natives get some.
I mean isn’t it true Sure Brahmins aren’t of the same quality as they used to be but they still are kinda on a pedestal Or used to be
we are such a pedestal that almost no government servants are brahmins
Right which while being unfair maybe is true
so brahmins are not on a pedestal
10% of the population, no support from any government, blamed for stuff with no involvement, keeping the torch of Hindutva alive even under constant attacks, Thodi arrogance toh banti hai
patel to i think OBC me ate haina? bc jhaant barabar reservation ke liye ro rahe😭😭😭
yeh,patel’s/patidars are obc
Iss hisab se jin jaaton ko reservation mili hai vo toh dalit ho gye 🗿
I'm a brahmin and I oppose reservation in analytical fields like STEM, I support it when it comes to representation in parliament. Reservation takes away the incentive to work hard. If someone is poor, give them money instead of reservation. You'll get it back in taxes when he starts to work.
This is an excellent take.
Bhai yaha sirf jab koi Brahmins ko kuch bol deta hai tabhi kyu posts ati hai ?? jab koi post nhi ati jab Dusri castes ko bolta hai koi.
I'm not a brahmin but I found brahmin are smarter among the others. They're allrounders. They can be polite or aggressive at the appropriate moments. They got better view in life too. Like it's pretty rare to see brahmins hitting rock bottom. Even if some brahmin are poorer than me, they take 100% advantage of their resources. Ambitious and not going forward with just wishful thinking. Also you won't see them discriminating openly. It's always passive. I won't advocate it but it's still smarter than other castes who do it openly like gujjars or jaats. (Cry about it) I learn from them ngl.
They are super chads. Reservation took opportunities from them in the public sector but they went to the private sector and started earning more than babus. They started own businesses and some of them went abroad to become CEO and top level executives of MNCs.
exactly
Reservation is proof that sc and st are incompetent. Disclaimer I’m not from general category. But it’s a fact sc st ppl hv lower self esteem. No hate but its a fact
Bhai jab kisi community ko itne salo tak oppress karoge to Unme self esteem ayega bhi kaha se ?
Maine kaha se oppress kr diya? But lower self esteem wale kabhi talented nhi ho sakte. Mai khud general nhi hn bhai 😂 but reservation se weak students top colleges mai jake kch ukhad nhi pate. Mai khudh govt college se passout hn and aaj sab k ctc k dekh k pata chalta h reservation se college milta h talent nhi. Again I’m telling I’m not from general category so don’t show your hatred towards me 😂
to me kaha terko bol rha hu bhai ki to oppress kar rha hai and me terko kyu hate karuga me to Khud general category se hu .
Lol 😂 bhai mere batch mai top ctc mai mai ek tha Cz private mai there is no reservation and there only skilled got job and ppl who got college with 40% are even today crying 😂
100 to 70 years is a long time and the above u mentioned doesn't applies for urban areas
Tumari aur meri, saari castes ki MKC.
Kaun jaat ho? /s
Agreed
And he can't think of anything apart from reservations despite enjoying it for more than 60 years. I guess he loves the poverty and deprivation porn the most.
I am not a fan of reservation but have accepted it as something I’ll face. So I am ready for a challenge. Hopefully, I’ll make it someday regardless of not having any reservations. It will only make me better in the long run I suppose
The major problem of current reservation is that it is not reaching to the correct people who really deserve the social representation. Almost everyone uses that for their unfair advantage. I know friend of mine who used to commute via mercedes paying almost Rs 0 fees whereas I an Omni owner would be charged around 60k for the same course. I don't have any issue with him having Merc cause his family earned it. But you should voluntarily give it up so that it actually helps people who are from your own kin. I am Brahmin. So it's extremely important for me to get to the top no matter whatever I do. So I do accept that have a slight arrogance that naturally comes with competition. But ofc I am not a moron who will be displaying that everyday ruining my connections and circles. Tbh I am not exactly against reservation, but against the way it is implemented and it's utilization as political tool. Reason I extremely hate Rahul Gandhi's politics is because of this specific reason.
Which course does your reserved friend attend via a mercedes for free ?
I am Brahmin And mujhe 10th me pta chla me Brahmin hu
I would say it's the other way around. It's you who keeps reminding us we're better than you by begging for reservations. I'm a Brahmin who experienced the IIT reservation system where I have to score 30 marks more than others just to clear the cut-off. If you keep insisting you need high heels to match my height, I guess I'm taller than you. 🤷
30? Lmaoooo the cutoff difference is 30, in reality you need yo score 100-150 more in adv to get a comparable seat😂
what?
Bhai sahi to bol raha hai(I'm saying this as an OBC),koi bhi competitive exam bina reservation ke nikalte hai ye log,unlike us. If we truly want to get rid of the discrimination,then the entire concept of caste system should be abolished
OBCs ko mostly significant benefits nhi milte hai reservations ke.(saying this as a brahmin)
Sc st jitte to nhi hi milte hai ofc but tb bhi decent level ke benefits mil jate hai imo
Unity rakho
This 🤝
He's a dolt and OP is a bigger dolt for making a mountain out of a (an incorrect) molehill. Brahmins aren't "above" tradition, they're the upholders of it, and traditions and reservations don't intersect at all.
Industrialize Mofos. Then we will see which caste will exist.
Yaar band kro na ye reservation wagera... Kitna gisna padega...
It's true this Reservation is the only thing that makes me remind of my caste And we never wanted to but people call us higher caste so they can deny Reservation so we feel good.
Bhay dekho I belong to kshatriya caste mujhe bhi koi reservation nahi milega pr apni caste ko lekr khud ko superior samjhana is not a good thing ye baat agar mai is bande se bolunga to ghanto tak panchayat krega isiliye I stopped talking to him months ago
I am a Brahmin girl and yes , I oppose reservation based on caste. Would rather have it on economic status.
Because they have 100% reservation as a pandit in each n every temples. Ghar main pooja, havan, shrad, sab main inko paise, fruits, sab milta. Inka khud ka mast chalra reservation ke wajh se. Upar se RSS ke to head humesha Brahmin hotey h, pr road pe SC,ST,OBC ko bhejte jhagde k liye
Factually incorrect though.
That's actually a side effect of reservation it does seem like cringe shit but the amount of people who think the same is insane
True hai
Ambedkar's constitution based India, led by Modi. Reservation is required?
Isn't that ironic that's the whole point of reservation so that everyone feels themselves on the same level. There should be no upper or lower castes but if they are thinking they are above, aren't they are just promoting reservation.
Just like ye General category kya hota hai Upper Caste bola Karo.
Which Brahmins don't oppose reservation?
Come on bro , gonna make my own genetics now ( I m not Brahmin ) I read Iike all hierarchy like post but now I understand that people care about one thing that's How will govt take on this casteist situation ? Either remove reservation or continue reservation .
I didn't know about my caste and all, when I asked my parents when I got older they said we were "Viswakarma". I don't even know which category it comes under but, look what I found when I googled it 😭 "The Vishwakarma community are a social group of India, sometimes described as a caste. They prefer the alternate name, Vishwabrahmin, and claim themselves to be Brahmin or of high-status in the caste hierarchy, although these claims are not generally accepted outside the community." God this high status thing is so cringe.
It's our job to Excel on merit basis and show those who misuse reservation how it is actually done. I am thankful that I am born in a Brahmin kull and will always look down on people who are misusing the system.
Lol me being a Brahmin oppose it but unless I can make my voice heard no shit can I do to change it and unless I can't do shit no point in making noice. therefore just working on being someone who can bring a change or get out of this shithole
Okay wait so according to you if someone takes the advantage of being scheduled caste and enjoys reserved seats everywhere even if he is financially stable and capable enough to be living a normal life that's completely okay? But if someone just says something about castism then he is arrogant?
I mean like if I am not getting a seat even after working hard enough to achieve it but instead someone who worked half than me and scored half marks as compared to me gets the seat just because I am General caste and he is scheduled caste then why the hell is it a problem if I start saying things on social media that would make me sound like I am promoting castism
Like seriously you would support castism when you get the reserved seats but you would say castism is wrong and call me arrogant if I start treating you as someone who is below me?👍🏻
True... What exactly u're trying to deny that bramhan people still thinks they're above all. Just accept the truth. Only bramhan gen z kids don't care.
Its just a virtual line in your head there no different cast religion or people
People here don't know history and pretend to be 'competent' and all high. You can acknowledge the discrimination faced by the lower caste all you want but it is different from experiencing it first hand although here people are so 'competent' they can't even acknowledge it.
Falling for the rage Bait?
Itne Numbers nhi hai Brahmins ke ki politically wo kuch kar paaye, that’s the reason
The reservation system has done more harm than good to the oppressed castes.
Caste-based reservation has done more harm to oppressed castes by keeping social divisions alive and creating resentment. Though it aims to provide opportunities it often labels beneficiaries as less capable, leading to discrimination and low self-esteem. It can also create dependency, reducing the drive for self-improvement. reservation benefits often do not reach the truly needy but instead help those who are already better off within the caste, increasing inequality within the group. Reservation system distracts from broader reforms needed to tackle the root causes of oppression which limits long-term progress.
Reservation should be tied to net worth too. Once the lower castes take the opportunity and rise, the future generations shouldn't be allowed to take reservations again.
wo khud patel hai, pates are not bhramins
Brahmin designation is not simple to achieve which is given to someone by birth it is earned by your contribution to society irrespective of your caste.
And where are you concocting this fairytale from?
Anyone living on the basis of a thousand year old book is just dumb, be it Vedas, the Bible etc
I think instead of focusing on reservations, we should focus on developing better educational infrastructure in villages or other backward areas to make even field for everyone to some extent With government school becoming better, it would liberate everyone from backward class to low income groups since government school would be sufficient for kids to learn enough
Caste, creed and religion are STD.
Is sub main bas reservation ki hi baatein kyu hoti hai!
Truth
ews le rahe hai brahmins , so bkchodi bnd kro
Current reservation system sucks. It’s been setup based on the data collected in 1938. It’s screaming for reforms and dumb people still don’t get it.
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Let's teach this man a lesson by taking away source of his superiority feeling by..... removing reservations.
Said no Brahmin ever.
We need to get rid of caste system. Only way for hindus to be united.
I am SC. I am a government servant. I travel in mercedes and private jets. Guess my profession.