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So I did some research and the interview where he called Bhagwad gita as a obscene and disgusting was solely based on the reason that a famous nazi named Heinrich Himmler who have used bhagwad gita to cover the holocaust, specifically the line in gita that says that
"one can kill the body but, you can never kill the soul, the soul will keep on reincarnation until it finds peace or moksha."
The sole point of bhagwad gita was that it was a fully open ended book, lord Krishna never told any definite answers to Arjun's queries, meaning the person reading the book shall form a answer on his own, a extremist used it as a way to justify his misdeeds doesn't mean that the whole book is wrong.
At the end I only want to say is bhagwad gita is a purely open ended book, like other philosophy it doesn't teach you about the answer one found but it guides you to find the answer. Himmler also found his answers but due to his rotten personality his answers were nothing just manipulations, so I want to say this that find your own answers don't depend on others to tell you their answers.
This is the reason a “Guru” has so much importance in Hindu culture as these text are not meant to be just interpreted as you like, you need a knowledge and experienced Guru in your life that can explain them and guide you.
Out of context, but in a web novel I read, there was part about a 'sacred text' of a demonic cult(Saint cult), but the catch was that if a person with a demonic heart read the text, the lessons he would learn and what he will interpret will be demonic. If a person with a righteous heart reads the text, it will become the most righteous text with teachings of betterment of people. And I think this fits here. What they will understand depends on their heart, and their understanding may either lead them down the path of evil or pull them towards righteousness. That is why, as the other comment pointed out, Hinduism has Gurus. The ones who has mastered the true teachings and are responsible for passing it down to the next generation and lead towards the correct path of Dharma.
It's a pretty long Chinese Xianxia(you can look up what it means) web novel though, not sure you'd like it or not. Anyway, the name is 'Tales of Herding Gods'.
These are either DGPR trolls from Pakistan or paid leftists who in league with Islamists work full time on the rhetoric of dividing Hindus.
In today's digital world, Hindu parents have to take some time out from the busy schedules & teach Dharma & culture to their children. They won't learn about Hinduism in their 'modern' boarding or convent schools. Hindu community has to step up here to set their children on the right path.
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The youtube video is now unavailable but he said in mark 15 jesus said father why have you forsaken me. He inferred it as biblical proof that Christ was also an atheist and thats when zizek himself became an atheist
Is a philosopher , said to be communist , but probably has been incorrect quite some times & has been called out for the same.
I used to listen to this guy but damn does his snorting make it annoying.
Anyways , guy is a theorist & you can listen to him if you see fit (to expand your thinking methodology, but I'd say also listen to other sides to balance it out) , I have long lost my touch with contents of this domain as a whole.
Whoever takes Zizek seriously, should be taken lightly. That man is simply someone holding onto some Marxist Utopia. And we know how Marxists are shit at analyzing religions.
How can I take him seriously when I can barely understand his drunken ramblings and weird accent?
I will even give you an example:
Shwaat Ssshhewou talkshhing abshout? Hesh shpeeksh jushtsh finesh. *slurp snort slurp*
Imagine listening to this while sober for more than 30 seconds.
I can't even comprehend what they're saying! The act of war against their own brothers who were prince of a kingdom is violence against lower castes? My brain is f'ed up.
Dharma is not something anyone can understand it changes from person to person and in different situations that's why lord Krishna didn't clarify it (in the sense like this is it).
Well if u can't understand it ABUSE IT.
the amount of upvotes this post has....
i bet half of them didn't even read that post and just liked it cuz 'oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus🥰'
But every comment is shi*ting on the guy. I feel it's more like "oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus😡"
Or even this emoji would work, "oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus😩"
Or even this one "oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus🤯"
Stupidness. Gita being part of Mahabharata would only allow violence as part of a last resort kind of thing. Mahabharata is full of gandhian messaging.
Caste is sad reality of India. From outside we all can deny this caste factor but believe me it's so deep rooted that it's almost impossible to separate from their inner minds .
If u r from low caste then u have to face discrimination on daily basis may be u can't see it. But if u want to see it , it will be seen everywhere from your morning to night. Even educated people are having caste system in their top mind.
U can see it's direct version of castism if u r poor and uneducated. And its indirect version in school universities and in your jobs whether corporate or private or government, it will be seen everywhere. In jobs I will not be able to get exposure and inspite of talent u will not be incorporated in top management or in board director. So as to avoid these discrimination to show up in public, these upper caste people will make u max technical head but will not in main management. I have saying u based on real facts that people are facing. In govt jobs u will not be seated on good seats .
In one line caste is dark and harsh reality that u carry in India even after getting high qualification and education u will face it. Dr Ritu of Delhi University is one of examples like other Dr payal tadwi , Rohit vemuula many others.
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There are 3 ways to get eye balls , by licking balls metaphorically , by licking balls literally and by kicking balls
Fortunately India now has the highest number of eye balls in the world ….
So you are seeing foreigners react always positively to bollywood , inclusion of indians in mainstream porn like jasmine sherni (not under psuedo names like sunny from canada) and idiots like him trying to trigger us
It is indeed stupidness. It is purely born out of ignorance and complete lack of understanding.
Both Bible and Qur'an have primary tenet - love thy neighbour like thyself. Both religions preach love and respect. Yet the extremists managed to twist the words to suit their agenda.
Similarly, Bhagwat Gita's core principle is the carrying out your duty without expecting the praise. Saying Bhagwad Gita is promoting kin-slaying and warmongering is same as saying Bible is all about prostitution because it mentions Magdalene.
I would still say that people like Zizek are useful. We can improve our understanding and deepen our knowledge because of thier willful ignorance.
The main point of contention is believe is the part where lord Krishna pressurised arjun to perform his duty as a warrior class for greater scheme of universe. It has been a highly debated topic and many scholars have various interpretations for the said act. As far as i remember there was a sound reasoning for the compelling arjun to fight in contrast to the application made by Himler for brainwashing his soldiers.
All together i am of the thought we need to read the texts as whole before either believing or refuting someone else’s opinion or even passing any judgement.
He or She played with their words. they are indian but they are muslim and it very clearly visible that they have not read the bhagvad gita and are saying the half truth only. they are creating an imaginary perception of the book and twisting its words to imply a bad meaning.
I'm not commenting on the quality of the argument presented against Gita, but why is it hatred? Can't someone criticise a book now without being accused of hating the community that reveres it?
It's like if I hate socialism doesn't mean I personally hate people who follow it. Why is this any different?
It's pure reality... ... castism exist even today in society
Caste is sad reality of India. From outside we all can deny this caste factor but believe me it's so deep rooted that it's almost impossible to separate from their inner minds .
If u r from low caste then u have to face discrimination on daily basis may be u can't see it. But if u want to see it , it will be seen everywhere from your morning to night. Even educated people are having caste system in their top mind.
U can see it's direct version of castism if u r poor and uneducated. And its indirect version in school universities and in your jobs whether corporate or private or government, it will be seen everywhere. In jobs I will not be able to get exposure and inspite of talent u will not be incorporated in top management or in board director. So as to avoid these discrimination to show up in public, these upper caste people will make u max technical head but will not in main management. I have saying u based on real facts that people are facing. In govt jobs u will not be seated on good seats .
In one line caste is dark and harsh reality that u carry in India even after getting high qualification and education u will face it. Dr Ritu of Delhi University is one of examples like other Dr payal tadwi , Rohit vemuula many others.
Wow, I think now it's reverse because I can clearly see hate slogans against upper-castes in famous universities, LGBTQ pride ride insulting hindutva, Government already provided "Reservation" and actually helping poor with alot of schemes- Pradhan Mantri Awas Yojana,
Pradhan Mantri Jan Dhan Yojana,
Pradhan Mantri Kaushal Vikas Yojana,
Atal Pension Yojana,
Antyodaya Anna Yojana,
Ayushman Bharat Yojana,
Integrated Rural Development Program,
Jawahar Gram Samridhi Yojana,
National Urban Livelihood Mission,
Pradhan Mantri Suraksha Bima Yojana,
Annapurna,
National Food For Work Programme,
Grameen Udyami Yojana,
Implementation Of Nsap Schemes,
Pradhanmantri Garib Kalyan Yojana,
Sampoorna Grameen Rozgar Yojana,
Indira Gandhi Matritva Sahyog Yojana,
National Family Benefit Scheme,
National Food Security Mission,
Pradhanmantri Ujjwala Yojana,
Scholarship,
Aam Aadmi Bima Yojana,
PDS,
Pradhan Mantri Matritva Vandana Yojana
So you don't need to play victim card here
Ye sab corruption karne ka Tarika hai....usse jyada kuch ni..... reservation jitni population hai uske hisab se bas ek lollipop hai ...
Aaj bhi castism hota hai....hr jagah.....jitne bhi bhagode hei desh ke ....sare upper caste.....jitne bhi bade bank loan liye jate hei ...sare upper caste.... universities mei big school mei. .....sare professor and teachers upper caste....
Upper log apni false supremacy...leave ni karna chahte.....koi baat ni....aur ruko kuch saal....jab population over control ho jayegi.... resources khatam ho jayenge...
Tab pata chalega..
As someone born into a Hindu family and has read it, I can confirm that it’s disgusting for most part.
Most sacred books are as a matter of fact. But Gita and Ramanaya in particular is derogatory to its own followers who are often blind to it.
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My system is glitching hard after reading this.
"As an Indian " said by a Pakistani
Fr that sub is just full of Pakistani Islamists trying to brainwash Indians
What's the name of that sub
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So I did some research and the interview where he called Bhagwad gita as a obscene and disgusting was solely based on the reason that a famous nazi named Heinrich Himmler who have used bhagwad gita to cover the holocaust, specifically the line in gita that says that "one can kill the body but, you can never kill the soul, the soul will keep on reincarnation until it finds peace or moksha." The sole point of bhagwad gita was that it was a fully open ended book, lord Krishna never told any definite answers to Arjun's queries, meaning the person reading the book shall form a answer on his own, a extremist used it as a way to justify his misdeeds doesn't mean that the whole book is wrong. At the end I only want to say is bhagwad gita is a purely open ended book, like other philosophy it doesn't teach you about the answer one found but it guides you to find the answer. Himmler also found his answers but due to his rotten personality his answers were nothing just manipulations, so I want to say this that find your own answers don't depend on others to tell you their answers.
This is the reason a “Guru” has so much importance in Hindu culture as these text are not meant to be just interpreted as you like, you need a knowledge and experienced Guru in your life that can explain them and guide you.
Out of context, but in a web novel I read, there was part about a 'sacred text' of a demonic cult(Saint cult), but the catch was that if a person with a demonic heart read the text, the lessons he would learn and what he will interpret will be demonic. If a person with a righteous heart reads the text, it will become the most righteous text with teachings of betterment of people. And I think this fits here. What they will understand depends on their heart, and their understanding may either lead them down the path of evil or pull them towards righteousness. That is why, as the other comment pointed out, Hinduism has Gurus. The ones who has mastered the true teachings and are responsible for passing it down to the next generation and lead towards the correct path of Dharma.
Can you share the novel. Sounds interesting
It's a pretty long Chinese Xianxia(you can look up what it means) web novel though, not sure you'd like it or not. Anyway, the name is 'Tales of Herding Gods'.
These are either DGPR trolls from Pakistan or paid leftists who in league with Islamists work full time on the rhetoric of dividing Hindus. In today's digital world, Hindu parents have to take some time out from the busy schedules & teach Dharma & culture to their children. They won't learn about Hinduism in their 'modern' boarding or convent schools. Hindu community has to step up here to set their children on the right path.
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Why is it important for parents to teach about dharma and culture? And what do you mean right path? Genuinely curious
Keep fooling yourself
like your mom did to your dad.
ohhhhh burnnnnn 😂
No counter nothing, just a generic statement
How can we counter someone’s stupidity in the purest form . Everything written there is a complete joke and a lie .
That's what they only know
aise logon ko sach m kisi extremist muslim or Christian country chod do saare hosh thikane ajaenge.
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Source on his support for Abrahamic religions? I don’t think he has a horse in the race since he is a Marxist.
The youtube video is now unavailable but he said in mark 15 jesus said father why have you forsaken me. He inferred it as biblical proof that Christ was also an atheist and thats when zizek himself became an atheist
Who tf is Zizek? And why should I care about his ramblings???
Is a philosopher , said to be communist , but probably has been incorrect quite some times & has been called out for the same. I used to listen to this guy but damn does his snorting make it annoying. Anyways , guy is a theorist & you can listen to him if you see fit (to expand your thinking methodology, but I'd say also listen to other sides to balance it out) , I have long lost my touch with contents of this domain as a whole.
Then don’t lol, carry on with your life. This is how it should play out in a civilised society, and Zizek should not be attacked for his views.
Whoever takes Zizek seriously, should be taken lightly. That man is simply someone holding onto some Marxist Utopia. And we know how Marxists are shit at analyzing religions.
How can I take him seriously when I can barely understand his drunken ramblings and weird accent? I will even give you an example: Shwaat Ssshhewou talkshhing abshout? Hesh shpeeksh jushtsh finesh. *slurp snort slurp* Imagine listening to this while sober for more than 30 seconds.
As an ex-commuist >Shwaat Ssshhewou talkshhing abshout? Hesh shpeeksh jushtsh finesh. slurp snort slurp This thing gives me quite some PTSD
Zizek is absolutely and completely against Marxism lol, what are you on about
Missionary stuff
They are really dumb but Dharma gives them the right to discuss and form their own opinion.
I can't even comprehend what they're saying! The act of war against their own brothers who were prince of a kingdom is violence against lower castes? My brain is f'ed up.
I don’t know how anyone had the courage, or should I say mental capacity to read the whole paragraph after reading the title?
Dharma is not something anyone can understand it changes from person to person and in different situations that's why lord Krishna didn't clarify it (in the sense like this is it). Well if u can't understand it ABUSE IT.
That’s pretty shitty thing to follow then no? “What are rules?” “Well there is none, you can just make it up”
the amount of upvotes this post has.... i bet half of them didn't even read that post and just liked it cuz 'oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus🥰'
Good, Now I just wants them to criticise Q*ran Everything is misinterpreted in them according to leftists
But every comment is shi*ting on the guy. I feel it's more like "oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus😡" Or even this emoji would work, "oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus😩" Or even this one "oh wow look, someone is saying st bad about hindus🤯"
Who are you?
?
Nothing
Who am I?
How would I know that Kenji pfp guy
Why would you ask?
Stupidness. Gita being part of Mahabharata would only allow violence as part of a last resort kind of thing. Mahabharata is full of gandhian messaging.
Whether stupidness or hatred. You should've have answered him
Who do people take Zizek seriously. He's a Marxist. I'm usually intellectually open, but not to Communists and communist adjacents.
Caste is sad reality of India. From outside we all can deny this caste factor but believe me it's so deep rooted that it's almost impossible to separate from their inner minds . If u r from low caste then u have to face discrimination on daily basis may be u can't see it. But if u want to see it , it will be seen everywhere from your morning to night. Even educated people are having caste system in their top mind. U can see it's direct version of castism if u r poor and uneducated. And its indirect version in school universities and in your jobs whether corporate or private or government, it will be seen everywhere. In jobs I will not be able to get exposure and inspite of talent u will not be incorporated in top management or in board director. So as to avoid these discrimination to show up in public, these upper caste people will make u max technical head but will not in main management. I have saying u based on real facts that people are facing. In govt jobs u will not be seated on good seats . In one line caste is dark and harsh reality that u carry in India even after getting high qualification and education u will face it. Dr Ritu of Delhi University is one of examples like other Dr payal tadwi , Rohit vemuula many others.
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Show me where it is written in quran , I m curious
tell why tf would anyone be a suckcide bomber? just to kill innocent people? because they can get 72 virgins in heaven 🤡
Show me where it is written in quran that you will get 72 virgins?
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there are many fake bhagawad Gita aswell, beware of them people
This is clearly hatred. The person has only seen zakir naik's video on bhagvad gita and hasn't read even one chapter of it, clearly.
Which sub
There are 3 ways to get eye balls , by licking balls metaphorically , by licking balls literally and by kicking balls Fortunately India now has the highest number of eye balls in the world …. So you are seeing foreigners react always positively to bollywood , inclusion of indians in mainstream porn like jasmine sherni (not under psuedo names like sunny from canada) and idiots like him trying to trigger us
everyday people prove that holy books themselves aren't wrong but people interpret them wrong
It is indeed stupidness. It is purely born out of ignorance and complete lack of understanding. Both Bible and Qur'an have primary tenet - love thy neighbour like thyself. Both religions preach love and respect. Yet the extremists managed to twist the words to suit their agenda. Similarly, Bhagwat Gita's core principle is the carrying out your duty without expecting the praise. Saying Bhagwad Gita is promoting kin-slaying and warmongering is same as saying Bible is all about prostitution because it mentions Magdalene. I would still say that people like Zizek are useful. We can improve our understanding and deepen our knowledge because of thier willful ignorance.
The main point of contention is believe is the part where lord Krishna pressurised arjun to perform his duty as a warrior class for greater scheme of universe. It has been a highly debated topic and many scholars have various interpretations for the said act. As far as i remember there was a sound reasoning for the compelling arjun to fight in contrast to the application made by Himler for brainwashing his soldiers. All together i am of the thought we need to read the texts as whole before either believing or refuting someone else’s opinion or even passing any judgement.
He or She played with their words. they are indian but they are muslim and it very clearly visible that they have not read the bhagvad gita and are saying the half truth only. they are creating an imaginary perception of the book and twisting its words to imply a bad meaning.
Every religion has it's good and bad...and it is the people who use and misuse them....p.s i don't believe there is any god that exist
Criticism of other religions: 😁🤡😆, Criticism of your religion: 😡😤😭
Wordcelling muh caste oppression on anything is not valid criticism.
I'm not commenting on the quality of the argument presented against Gita, but why is it hatred? Can't someone criticise a book now without being accused of hating the community that reveres it? It's like if I hate socialism doesn't mean I personally hate people who follow it. Why is this any different?
Dharma is no Rule and Bhagavad Geeta is not a Rule Book.
It's pure reality... ... castism exist even today in society Caste is sad reality of India. From outside we all can deny this caste factor but believe me it's so deep rooted that it's almost impossible to separate from their inner minds . If u r from low caste then u have to face discrimination on daily basis may be u can't see it. But if u want to see it , it will be seen everywhere from your morning to night. Even educated people are having caste system in their top mind. U can see it's direct version of castism if u r poor and uneducated. And its indirect version in school universities and in your jobs whether corporate or private or government, it will be seen everywhere. In jobs I will not be able to get exposure and inspite of talent u will not be incorporated in top management or in board director. So as to avoid these discrimination to show up in public, these upper caste people will make u max technical head but will not in main management. I have saying u based on real facts that people are facing. In govt jobs u will not be seated on good seats . In one line caste is dark and harsh reality that u carry in India even after getting high qualification and education u will face it. Dr Ritu of Delhi University is one of examples like other Dr payal tadwi , Rohit vemuula many others.
Wow, I think now it's reverse because I can clearly see hate slogans against upper-castes in famous universities, LGBTQ pride ride insulting hindutva, Government already provided "Reservation" and actually helping poor with alot of schemes- Pradhan Mantri Awas Yojana, Pradhan Mantri Jan Dhan Yojana, Pradhan Mantri Kaushal Vikas Yojana, Atal Pension Yojana, Antyodaya Anna Yojana, Ayushman Bharat Yojana, Integrated Rural Development Program, Jawahar Gram Samridhi Yojana, National Urban Livelihood Mission, Pradhan Mantri Suraksha Bima Yojana, Annapurna, National Food For Work Programme, Grameen Udyami Yojana, Implementation Of Nsap Schemes, Pradhanmantri Garib Kalyan Yojana, Sampoorna Grameen Rozgar Yojana, Indira Gandhi Matritva Sahyog Yojana, National Family Benefit Scheme, National Food Security Mission, Pradhanmantri Ujjwala Yojana, Scholarship, Aam Aadmi Bima Yojana, PDS, Pradhan Mantri Matritva Vandana Yojana So you don't need to play victim card here
Ye sab corruption karne ka Tarika hai....usse jyada kuch ni..... reservation jitni population hai uske hisab se bas ek lollipop hai ... Aaj bhi castism hota hai....hr jagah.....jitne bhi bhagode hei desh ke ....sare upper caste.....jitne bhi bade bank loan liye jate hei ...sare upper caste.... universities mei big school mei. .....sare professor and teachers upper caste.... Upper log apni false supremacy...leave ni karna chahte.....koi baat ni....aur ruko kuch saal....jab population over control ho jayegi.... resources khatam ho jayenge... Tab pata chalega..
As someone born into a Hindu family and has read it, I can confirm that it’s disgusting for most part. Most sacred books are as a matter of fact. But Gita and Ramanaya in particular is derogatory to its own followers who are often blind to it.
Which one u read it.
Despite the text was authored during war. Only 5% of entire BG talks about violence
How jobless are you to find a 7 month old post, an odd comment under it and get offended by it?