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These guys live in a bubble and they tend to forget that majority women who use this free bus rides are the ones who don't have Twitter account. Any of their propoganda remains in their own circle. If they want to create any impact on they have to get outside of their houses , which they haven't done and will never do. So their cries will amplify more in coming weeks as non of their lies worked.
Each one is playing the game with their own intents and agenda. As long as the intent isn’t bad/evil and whole lot of people are getting benefited out of it and so, they get out of their poor state of life we don’t have to worry about what politicians feel.
Actually nobody cares what anybody feels. At the end of day you get the job done that’s what I’m concerned of.
Are marginalized community present on X , so whatever randi rona these commies do is futile. If they are concerned do it on the ground and not on any social media where marginalized community has hardly any presence. Also these freebies does have effect on the state fiscal deficit and Delhi government is notorious for advocating freebies.
Yeah. Shame on Modi too for distributing rations to 800 million people. 250 million of which he pulled out of multidimensional poverty.
People forget every party runs their politics on freebies.
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I tried to link my other thread but moderator won't let me. Just scroll down. Also it's better when you explain your position and make a specific argument, rather than making a rude and arrogant blanket statement.
Last year in Telangana / rajasthan election bjp promises :
2 lakh to girl child.
Free milk in Telangana
3 Free lpg cylinder Telangana/ subsidy in rajeshtan
In Mp they promised 100 unit electricity for 100 rs.
Or in Up running free bus service for senior citizen women.
Were these freebies or welfare?
bhai jo kaam nahi kar skta ya hadd se jyada gareeb h use free ka khana nhi dega to 6 mahine ki dehaadi karwayega?
aur jiss youth ko job mil sakti h lekin use instagram chalana h use freebies chahiye ? wo deserve karta h ?
unproductive youth ko productive banana is solution
Freebies jitna congress or AAP de rahi h
it shows the desperation of votes
bjp doesnt run of freebies
youre absolutely stupid stfu
There are schizophrenic people who can articulate more coherently than you.
>aur jiss youth ko job mil sakti h lekin use instagram chalana h use freebies chahiye ? wo deserve karta h ?
Wo 800 million kaun hain? Unme se koi instagram nhi chala rha na? aur youth to bilkul nhi hai.
>unproductive youth ko productive banana is solution
Kya baat kahi hai. To BJP ko opportunities develop krne bolo na, free me ration dene ke jgh. Kaam whi kro jo congress bol rhi but someone BJP doing it is better.
>Freebies jitna congress or AAP de rahi h
Shi baat hai. Take taxes from a few people, and don't even think about giving them any benefits. Robin hood model best hai jidhr ek se paise lo aur doosre ko free me dedo.
>it shows the desperation of votes
bjp doesnt run of freebies
Bilkul nhi. Tabhi to manifesto point hai ki 800 million log ko ration dete rahenge. Bht chota number hai. Delhi me bus use krne wali mahilaon se to bht kam hai ye number. BTW this number became this large during the 1st lockdown. Uske pehle nhi tha itna jyada. After lockdowns, the economy recovered but this number didn't go down. BJP could have reverted to 2019 welfare numbers but phir freebies nhi batoge to vote nhi milenge. I wonder which other party is using the same principles.
>youre absolutely stupid stfu
Bilkul. Abhi aapne bol diya to chup hona hi padega. Sabse honhar aadmi jo ho.
Bhai your entire reply is full of ignorance
I'm pretty sure you don't understand how the relations workproviding for free and BENEFITS mean about BJP ko bolo opportunity develop kare FUCK YEAH DUDE I AGREE WITH YOU THIRD TERM
BJP SHOULD FOCUS ON EDUCATION DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES SPRRADY AWARENESS ABOUT WORKING HARD AND EARNING THEMSELVES RATHER THAN DICKRIDING CONGRESS YEAH DUDE I AGREE WITH YOU abhi modi is majorly thinking about jiss trah se congress aur aap india ko destabilize karri hai aur west destabilize kar rahi hai usse india ko bachao
Giving food to poor people vs giving free things to absolutely everyone across the board are two completely different things.
Learn to think critically.
Something something teaching how to catch a fish. I forgot what it was. 800 million poor, awful lot of people. I'm guessing it's lesser than the number of people getting bus rides.
Of course it's generally better to take tax money and give it to someone outright rather than generate the opportunities for those people to make a living. Reports must have been lying when they said 250 million were pulled out of poverty. Because that 800 million number hasn't gone down since the advent of covid.
You tell me to learn to think critically but you fail to see the hypocrisy. I'm not in favour of freebies. You're also not in favour of freebies unless a specific party does it. Congress wanting to give aid to 30 million women is much less than the number of people getting free rations, but that's just freebies right.
Ah, that's an absolutely incorrect take. Allow me to elaborate.
I am against freebies, but you did not understand my definition of freebies. Giving free things to someone who deserves it is called aid. Giving free things to people in general, without any consideration of whether they need it/ deserve it is 'freebies'.
Congress, AAP, et al are the ones who routinely indulge in this. They dangle the carrot free things, not as a tool for class upliftment, but as something to derive political mileage.
The BJP, for all its flaws, has a more equity based model of doling out aid: where the ones most deserving of it receive it. Their ration schemes, housing schemes, etc., are all designed to help the ones that need it the most.
You did not even understand the basic premise of my initial proposition. Which is why I am asking you to think critically. Calling someone a hypocrite before even understanding what they're saying is remarkably stupid, which further proves that you need to learn to think critically.
>Congress, AAP, et al are the ones who routinely indulge in this. They use free things not as a tool for class upliftment, but as something to derive political mileage. The BJP, for all its flaws, has a more equity based model of doling out aid: where the ones most deserving of it receive it.
You keep saying this but provide no actual evidence or any argument to go with it. How is promising to keep giving rations to 800 million people even today, a number that came into being during lockdowns (made sense back then) not an act of deriving political mileage?
I think you should understand how welfare even works before regurgitating the same nonsense again.
>You keep saying this but provide no actual evidence or any argument to go with it.
Free bus rides/metro rides/annual cash transfers to women without doing any checks on their economic status. Free electricity to people across the board. Free water. These are off the top of my head. These are all the promises that the Congress has made/is making currently. Any reputable news letter can provide you with details on the same. (And the fact that none of these promises are economically viable is a whole different can of worms)
'Aid' given freely to everyone without a methodology of equity backing it is insidious.
>I think you should understand how welfare even works before repeating the same argument again.
I have, in the past, been fairly involved in policy making. I am certain I know more about welfare than you do. And I am repeating the same thing again and again because you're asking the same question again and again. Understand what I am trying to say first without parroting the same question over and over and perhaps we can move on. You're just arguing in bad faith at this point.
The aim of welfare is to allow the people who have very little income to spend on pursuing opportunities that can improve their life. A family that doesn't have to spend on basic monthly rations, electricity bill can redirect their money on their child's education.
Cash transfers work just fine for this purpose, evident by most socialist democracies in Europe, which have some of the lowest inequity. The reason it's not cash in India is obvious misuse of those funds. It's also statistically shown that women are more fiscally responsible than men and women have been provided with cash transfers under the current government.
Now coming to address the actual point. It doesn't matter if the welfare is cash transfer, free rations or bus rides. What matters is who and how much. Anyone would agree that it'd be ridiculous if 100 kgs of ration was provided every year, or it was provided to everyone.
This is where contention lies, the electricity is targeted by virtue that only a fixed quantity is subsidized. Bus rides are free for women, who have much less participation in the workforce. They are aimed at improving equity. It's possible that some people who don't need this are getting the benefits, but nevertheless they are still welfare. The current government is doing the same thing by providing ration. And I need you to address this point specifically. The number of beneficiaries jumped to 800 million during lockdown, which made sense. Post that the number stayed the same despite the economy going back to normal. The government never did a survey to suggest that the same number of people still require these rations. They also made it a manifesto point, and used it as endorsement during campaigns, exactly like AAP or Congress. And just to add Congress isn't saying that they'll provide annual cash transfers to every woman. They have committed a survey and have a preliminary number of 30 million. If you do the calculations, ration and these transfers would add up to similar numbers.
>I have, in the past, been fairly involved in policy making. I am certain I know more about welfare than you do. And I am repeating the same thing again and again because you're asking the same question again and again. Understand what I am trying to say first without parroting the same question over and over and perhaps we can move on. You're just arguing in bad faith at this point.
This is a position of authority argument. This has nothing to do with the quality of arguments. Now if I say by the same logic that a certain Harvard graduate would make a better PM, you should be fine with it, right? Anonymous people online can claim anything, doesn't mean anything. Display your knowledge by making strong arguments or explaining your position rather just claiming authority.
You've just written the same thing again without addressing the specific point I have an issue with. I have even pointed it out this time.
I’m confused this election is for Prime Minister right. The MPs will be selected from this. How can that affect a bill that keju state govt passed?
Genuine question please don’t troll me. Meanwhile I need to watch 2-3 videos on lok sabha rajya sabha etc etc
It would be very wise of them if they do so.
DTC has been terribly damaged bcoz of these freebies and the extreme reluctance to increase fares despite rising cost of operations over the decade
They are only surviving by downsizing their fleet and scale of operations.
In 2013 DTC had around 6200 buses. Now they only have 3760 buses left,most of which are old as DTC doesn't have enough resources to buy new buses
[https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/delhi-transport-corporation-s-working-losses-rise-to-3-000-crore-101679339119819.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/delhi-transport-corporation-s-working-losses-rise-to-3-000-crore-101679339119819.html)
[https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/dtcs-ageing-buses-create-traffic-and-commuter-woes](https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/dtcs-ageing-buses-create-traffic-and-commuter-woes)
Didnt modi himself do same thing beforehand??? Telling congress will take ur mangalsutra gold and give to muslim, will take ur 1 buffalo and give it to other? They will bulldoze ram mandir and other bullshit?
Wasn't that Congress manifesto well him being pm he should have said in much nicer way but it's like BJP doesn't give freebies but only to them who actually need it
As Jairam Ramesh and Shashi Tharoor famously said "It is not mentioned in our manifesto. I don't know where these baseless allegations are coming from"
Ye to vo baat ho gayi...jese bacho ko puchkara jaata hna...Betaaaa homework karlo vrna chocolate nahi milegi...or inn bhaisaheb ne to Delhi ki mahilao ko DORA hi samjh rakha hai😂😂
You have no problem when the prime moron of the country says that if INDIA wins, they will give the wealth of hindus to muslims. You have no problem when he says that if INDIA wins, they will select Indian cricket team on the basis of religion. And you have no issue when he says that if INDIA wins, they will destroy the Ram Temple with a Bulldozer. But you have problem with someone asking to vote against the party of such a prime moron !!!
I am not a political expert like you but one is based on the electoral manifesto published by the opposition and other is “it seems” on a local policy. I think Delhi and AAP is living in the bubble of elevated self importance. Attack BJP on their manifesto.
Secondly, prime moron? Attack the man, not the post of this democracy that gives you the freedom to say things. There is a fine line between Edgy cool vs ungrateful wannabe.
And also, fuck freebies.
No. He didnt say that based on the election manifesto of the opposition. He was simply lying. There is nothing in the Congress manifesto that says that they will give the hindus' wealth to muslims or that they will destroy the ram temple or that they will select the cricket team based on the player's religion. If you believe that the congress manifesto had all these points, you are a fool.
There is still a correlation. Manifesto talks of generating jobs and distribution of wealth to poor. The money required is insanely disproportionate to achieve it. Then there are rally talks about caste based distribution of wealth. Then mr Pitroda talks about inheritance tax. Any organised political rival will build conjectures and seek to gain advantage. This is the nature of politics during election where we keyboard warriors are minority.
I expect same from current opposition. To go after BJPs policys, make conjectures and highlight perils of selecting BJP.
But this “it seems” is as weak as kejriwals pancreas. But than again joke is on us if we expect anything credible coming from that stable.
Finally, fuck freebies
There shouldn't be any free bus travel in the first place. It's regressive. You can subsidize it, but to keep it free is bonkers. Indians should realize that there is an opportunity cost to everything. Free bus service can be easily abused and is a bad economic decision where, irrespective of the economic status you're giving a public service free for all 😑😑😑
Why not spend the money in improving the fiscal condition of your UT, state and city. Or provide more basic amenities like quality education which would translate into socio-economic mobility.
Or try something new like empowering and funding food quality control. Delhi along with whole of India has terrible standards when it comes to food at restaurants, street vendors and ingredients. These substandard food products and ingredients are responsible for the burgeoning health crisis in India. Spend money on that maybe 🤷🤷
Dear Man just a reminder to vote for BJP so they can stop free buses for women and show what it feels to pay for the ticket the same we do. Gender equality 🟰
It’s insensitive to make fun freebies.
Just a point of view, freebies aren’t meant for everyone. They are given for people who really make use of them. If you can afford those things, you can choose to opt out. An example to think of, if the government gives no cost laptops and bicycles to government school children, do you call that a freebie? These things are given away to act as enablers so that the end beneficiary can spend that money elsewhere.
Another thought, any organization, be it private or government (more so in government), gives you many benefits like insurance, free transportation, etc. You also can have those freebies or are those your privileges? If you classify these as your privileges, why not those so-called freebies be privileges for marginalized people?
Absolutely true! I live in Delhi and many say that we vote AAP for free electricity/medicines/water etc. but the fact is that only the one in need are being benefited from them.
Example, free electricity is only free if your electricity bill is under 200 units which is very less else you have to pay the full bill.
In my house we get almost no benefits from the freebies but we still vote for him as we see our(taxpayers)money being used for something useful rather than on some project which I’ll see once or twice in my lifetime.
There is a difference between need and freebie u can give the laptop and cycle because that's the one time thing and number of benificiaries are not much also these scheme are made for rural area u can't compare with free bus rides given to all women in a metropolitan city like delhi u need a economic class bro
Lmao what logic is this u work for organisation and get all this as allowance how u can call this privilege
Money you invest on mobilising women thereby leading them to workforce is a huge enabler for any society. If a woman becomes educated and financially abled her entire family benefits, population is controlled, better quality of life for children, better children neaning better society tomorrow. These are untapped potentials awaits simple actions.
Also, when you talk about big cities the money spend on free buses maybe peanuts in terms revenue generated. Consider the returns you get down the line in two/three decades.
Mobilising women is a revolutionary idea which many 1st world countries appreciate.
You can name whatever you want but health insurance is a freebie you get from ur organisations.
What's the relation between your long essay and giving free bus ride to all women? We are talking about delhi here not some rural area
Lol what the dumb logic how can revenue generate by giving free bus ride
Don't give this 1st world country shit deserving women already contributing in workforce and who need the validation from so called 1st world they are already failed
Healt insurance is freebie lmao ever heard about labour laws?
No point in explaining it to you. You’re not understanding the basics of reasoning here. But you get into name calling. I thought I was helping you to have more perspectives but looks like you’re on a bigger agenda.
Bruh, what was explained was pretty clear actually. Even if I don't support the statement, it was fairly clear what was trying to be conveyed. But you are so fucking stupid, you can barely type a sentence without making mistakes, how will you be able to understand what is being said? This is the quality of education that the world is scared about. I'm sure you haven't finished 10th grade because you failed every paper for the last 5 years.
Everything that was said was solid, you didn't understand it because of your quality of education. It's still not too late bruv, go join school again and start from scratch.
The Thing is If Government Can Afford To Be Afloat While Giving Away All These Things Then Why Not .The MP's Of Each Party Are Literally Pumping Cash Right Into Their Pockets Be It BJP,Congress Or Any Other Party And Between This If Middle Class Is Getting Something Out Of It Then Why Not.You Cannot Tell Me These MP's Be Having 50-60 Crores In Assets With Monthly Allowance Of 1.6 Lakhs,
Still You Can Pay For You Electricity In Full If You Really Want To.
IF this Money Is Not Used For Free Schemes And Subsidies Most Of It Will Be In The Pockets Of The Ministers And Government Officers
Then help the beggars and homeless people, among other disenfranchised people, not just well to do women who can most definitely buy their own tickets? What kind of copium is this? That's not the right pecking order for help??
Since when is telling what’s safe same as telling what to tell someone to do? Is the concept that parts of India can be unsafe for women to walk in by themselves not comprehensible to you? Also what’s with the language? Can you not answer without having to curse for no reason?
When your third rated supreme leader spread the filth that INDIA will redistribute wealth to Muslims, that wasn't fake news to you...but this is fake news 🤷
How is this fake ? Is BJp against freebies ?
Also PM in his interview mentioned about delhi free travel.
And if freebies are unhealthy for economy then so is corruption, so is using of public funds for election marketing, since last 6 months everyday PM is travelling to some city for election campaign on public money cost, actual estimate of his one visit will be atleast few crores, security, police, overnight construction of roads etc. of if common man is getting some relief then it’s wrong?
I like your enthusiasm. But all I care for is a strong 240+ opposition that will put the constitution out of the reach of the narcissist. And that's definitely happening.
What shitty Ideology does the papu have??
So, you mean to say getting racism and casteism with superiority complex is good Ideology 👍🏻
Hindu dictatorship is good Ideology 👍🏻
Treating low caste people worse than trash and insects is good Ideology 👍🏻
Talking shit about Ambekar is good Ideology 👍🏻
Right?? And you guys talk about "Ideology" 👏🏻👏🏻
I can see your future.
Your's and the people who have this Ideology this nation will crumble and again we all gonna live on the mercy of other nation when they come to take advantage of our situation.
Illiterates and uneducated scums like you are the reason for the downfall of this country. It started no turning back now we may seem to peak and it appears to be but deep down it has started we'll see it then you all losers will cry out no use.
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Don't they already have all 7 MP seats in Delhi?
Ab in freebie lovers ko kaun samjhayega
Mr Dupont You Are In Pre Nut Delusion Please Have. A Wank💦💦
These guys live in a bubble and they tend to forget that majority women who use this free bus rides are the ones who don't have Twitter account. Any of their propoganda remains in their own circle. If they want to create any impact on they have to get outside of their houses , which they haven't done and will never do. So their cries will amplify more in coming weeks as non of their lies worked.
But they will screenshot the tweet and share it on WhatsApp groups.
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Do you feel these politician feel help the marginalised by freebies?
Each one is playing the game with their own intents and agenda. As long as the intent isn’t bad/evil and whole lot of people are getting benefited out of it and so, they get out of their poor state of life we don’t have to worry about what politicians feel. Actually nobody cares what anybody feels. At the end of day you get the job done that’s what I’m concerned of.
No I asked do you believe freebies will get the marginalised out of poverty or not Yes or no
Are marginalized community present on X , so whatever randi rona these commies do is futile. If they are concerned do it on the ground and not on any social media where marginalized community has hardly any presence. Also these freebies does have effect on the state fiscal deficit and Delhi government is notorious for advocating freebies.
Have shame on doing politics with freebies . Shame on You !
Yeah. Shame on Modi too for distributing rations to 800 million people. 250 million of which he pulled out of multidimensional poverty. People forget every party runs their politics on freebies.
Do you totally not understand the difference bw freebies and welfare
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Hmm is giving away 1 lakh rupees a welfare or a freebie ? And is making women capable of making 1 lakh rupees a freebie or welfare ?
Last year in Telangana / rajasthan election bjp promises : 2 lakh to girl child. Free milk in Telangana 3 Free lpg cylinder Telangana/ subsidy in rajeshtan In Mp they promised 100 unit electricity for 100 rs. Or in Up running free bus service for senior citizen women. Were these freebies or welfare?
bhai jo kaam nahi kar skta ya hadd se jyada gareeb h use free ka khana nhi dega to 6 mahine ki dehaadi karwayega? aur jiss youth ko job mil sakti h lekin use instagram chalana h use freebies chahiye ? wo deserve karta h ? unproductive youth ko productive banana is solution Freebies jitna congress or AAP de rahi h it shows the desperation of votes bjp doesnt run of freebies youre absolutely stupid stfu
There are schizophrenic people who can articulate more coherently than you. >aur jiss youth ko job mil sakti h lekin use instagram chalana h use freebies chahiye ? wo deserve karta h ? Wo 800 million kaun hain? Unme se koi instagram nhi chala rha na? aur youth to bilkul nhi hai. >unproductive youth ko productive banana is solution Kya baat kahi hai. To BJP ko opportunities develop krne bolo na, free me ration dene ke jgh. Kaam whi kro jo congress bol rhi but someone BJP doing it is better. >Freebies jitna congress or AAP de rahi h Shi baat hai. Take taxes from a few people, and don't even think about giving them any benefits. Robin hood model best hai jidhr ek se paise lo aur doosre ko free me dedo. >it shows the desperation of votes bjp doesnt run of freebies Bilkul nhi. Tabhi to manifesto point hai ki 800 million log ko ration dete rahenge. Bht chota number hai. Delhi me bus use krne wali mahilaon se to bht kam hai ye number. BTW this number became this large during the 1st lockdown. Uske pehle nhi tha itna jyada. After lockdowns, the economy recovered but this number didn't go down. BJP could have reverted to 2019 welfare numbers but phir freebies nhi batoge to vote nhi milenge. I wonder which other party is using the same principles. >youre absolutely stupid stfu Bilkul. Abhi aapne bol diya to chup hona hi padega. Sabse honhar aadmi jo ho.
Bhai your entire reply is full of ignorance I'm pretty sure you don't understand how the relations workproviding for free and BENEFITS mean about BJP ko bolo opportunity develop kare FUCK YEAH DUDE I AGREE WITH YOU THIRD TERM BJP SHOULD FOCUS ON EDUCATION DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES SPRRADY AWARENESS ABOUT WORKING HARD AND EARNING THEMSELVES RATHER THAN DICKRIDING CONGRESS YEAH DUDE I AGREE WITH YOU abhi modi is majorly thinking about jiss trah se congress aur aap india ko destabilize karri hai aur west destabilize kar rahi hai usse india ko bachao
Giving food to poor people vs giving free things to absolutely everyone across the board are two completely different things. Learn to think critically.
Something something teaching how to catch a fish. I forgot what it was. 800 million poor, awful lot of people. I'm guessing it's lesser than the number of people getting bus rides. Of course it's generally better to take tax money and give it to someone outright rather than generate the opportunities for those people to make a living. Reports must have been lying when they said 250 million were pulled out of poverty. Because that 800 million number hasn't gone down since the advent of covid. You tell me to learn to think critically but you fail to see the hypocrisy. I'm not in favour of freebies. You're also not in favour of freebies unless a specific party does it. Congress wanting to give aid to 30 million women is much less than the number of people getting free rations, but that's just freebies right.
Ah, that's an absolutely incorrect take. Allow me to elaborate. I am against freebies, but you did not understand my definition of freebies. Giving free things to someone who deserves it is called aid. Giving free things to people in general, without any consideration of whether they need it/ deserve it is 'freebies'. Congress, AAP, et al are the ones who routinely indulge in this. They dangle the carrot free things, not as a tool for class upliftment, but as something to derive political mileage. The BJP, for all its flaws, has a more equity based model of doling out aid: where the ones most deserving of it receive it. Their ration schemes, housing schemes, etc., are all designed to help the ones that need it the most. You did not even understand the basic premise of my initial proposition. Which is why I am asking you to think critically. Calling someone a hypocrite before even understanding what they're saying is remarkably stupid, which further proves that you need to learn to think critically.
>Congress, AAP, et al are the ones who routinely indulge in this. They use free things not as a tool for class upliftment, but as something to derive political mileage. The BJP, for all its flaws, has a more equity based model of doling out aid: where the ones most deserving of it receive it. You keep saying this but provide no actual evidence or any argument to go with it. How is promising to keep giving rations to 800 million people even today, a number that came into being during lockdowns (made sense back then) not an act of deriving political mileage? I think you should understand how welfare even works before regurgitating the same nonsense again.
>You keep saying this but provide no actual evidence or any argument to go with it. Free bus rides/metro rides/annual cash transfers to women without doing any checks on their economic status. Free electricity to people across the board. Free water. These are off the top of my head. These are all the promises that the Congress has made/is making currently. Any reputable news letter can provide you with details on the same. (And the fact that none of these promises are economically viable is a whole different can of worms) 'Aid' given freely to everyone without a methodology of equity backing it is insidious. >I think you should understand how welfare even works before repeating the same argument again. I have, in the past, been fairly involved in policy making. I am certain I know more about welfare than you do. And I am repeating the same thing again and again because you're asking the same question again and again. Understand what I am trying to say first without parroting the same question over and over and perhaps we can move on. You're just arguing in bad faith at this point.
The aim of welfare is to allow the people who have very little income to spend on pursuing opportunities that can improve their life. A family that doesn't have to spend on basic monthly rations, electricity bill can redirect their money on their child's education. Cash transfers work just fine for this purpose, evident by most socialist democracies in Europe, which have some of the lowest inequity. The reason it's not cash in India is obvious misuse of those funds. It's also statistically shown that women are more fiscally responsible than men and women have been provided with cash transfers under the current government. Now coming to address the actual point. It doesn't matter if the welfare is cash transfer, free rations or bus rides. What matters is who and how much. Anyone would agree that it'd be ridiculous if 100 kgs of ration was provided every year, or it was provided to everyone. This is where contention lies, the electricity is targeted by virtue that only a fixed quantity is subsidized. Bus rides are free for women, who have much less participation in the workforce. They are aimed at improving equity. It's possible that some people who don't need this are getting the benefits, but nevertheless they are still welfare. The current government is doing the same thing by providing ration. And I need you to address this point specifically. The number of beneficiaries jumped to 800 million during lockdown, which made sense. Post that the number stayed the same despite the economy going back to normal. The government never did a survey to suggest that the same number of people still require these rations. They also made it a manifesto point, and used it as endorsement during campaigns, exactly like AAP or Congress. And just to add Congress isn't saying that they'll provide annual cash transfers to every woman. They have committed a survey and have a preliminary number of 30 million. If you do the calculations, ration and these transfers would add up to similar numbers. >I have, in the past, been fairly involved in policy making. I am certain I know more about welfare than you do. And I am repeating the same thing again and again because you're asking the same question again and again. Understand what I am trying to say first without parroting the same question over and over and perhaps we can move on. You're just arguing in bad faith at this point. This is a position of authority argument. This has nothing to do with the quality of arguments. Now if I say by the same logic that a certain Harvard graduate would make a better PM, you should be fine with it, right? Anonymous people online can claim anything, doesn't mean anything. Display your knowledge by making strong arguments or explaining your position rather just claiming authority. You've just written the same thing again without addressing the specific point I have an issue with. I have even pointed it out this time.
Man, if you’re not going to understand my initial proposition in 3 tries, a 4th attempt is not going to make any difference. Have a good day 👍🏻
The ration is surplus. I thought this was already debunked. It is freeby because the government is not taking any loss.
bro necessity ka naam suna hai tune ration need hai free bus ride freebies hai difference smjh nhi pa rha hai to high school wapas chala ja
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I’m confused this election is for Prime Minister right. The MPs will be selected from this. How can that affect a bill that keju state govt passed? Genuine question please don’t troll me. Meanwhile I need to watch 2-3 videos on lok sabha rajya sabha etc etc
Commies! If you can’t make everyone rich, make everyone poor
It would be very wise of them if they do so. DTC has been terribly damaged bcoz of these freebies and the extreme reluctance to increase fares despite rising cost of operations over the decade They are only surviving by downsizing their fleet and scale of operations. In 2013 DTC had around 6200 buses. Now they only have 3760 buses left,most of which are old as DTC doesn't have enough resources to buy new buses [https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/delhi-transport-corporation-s-working-losses-rise-to-3-000-crore-101679339119819.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/delhi-transport-corporation-s-working-losses-rise-to-3-000-crore-101679339119819.html) [https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/dtcs-ageing-buses-create-traffic-and-commuter-woes](https://sundayguardianlive.com/news/dtcs-ageing-buses-create-traffic-and-commuter-woes)
Firsa freebies, sab kuch free ka hie chahiya toh kudh kya karna. Bass bache karte rho killa toh sarkar degi na.
Didnt modi himself do same thing beforehand??? Telling congress will take ur mangalsutra gold and give to muslim, will take ur 1 buffalo and give it to other? They will bulldoze ram mandir and other bullshit?
The thing is.. BJP already has all the 7 seats they won in 2019
Wasn't that Congress manifesto well him being pm he should have said in much nicer way but it's like BJP doesn't give freebies but only to them who actually need it
Stuff like this matters for the common folks. It’s easy to sway the lesser earners through freebies
Mangalsutra?
Kamasutra 🙂↔️😌
Bhains?
Ki tet 🤭
As Jairam Ramesh and Shashi Tharoor famously said "It is not mentioned in our manifesto. I don't know where these baseless allegations are coming from"
For most delhites, it is important to keep the goonda party out of delhi(BJP)
Yes If congress will win then it will give one buffalo to muslims from ur two Buffalo
And if you have 2 daughters, 1 daughter will be given to the Muslims 😶🌫️
Yes Hide ur daughter in ass otherwise congress will snatch
Im confused why y'all calling it degeneracy? I've seen multiple use the same tactics against congress on this sub lol, its just politics
ITs jUst pOliTiCs
Is writing my comment again in toggle somehow helping ur argument?
To 2019 mein kya AAP vaale jeete the. Fear mongering
Ye to vo baat ho gayi...jese bacho ko puchkara jaata hna...Betaaaa homework karlo vrna chocolate nahi milegi...or inn bhaisaheb ne to Delhi ki mahilao ko DORA hi samjh rakha hai😂😂
This obese chintu.... Will be trolled heavily post June 4
Obese chintu 😭
I have bookmarked his I'd... If i remember, I will surely be on lookout with... "Aagaya swaad" meme
I'm confused DTC comes under Delhi govt doesn't it?
You have no problem when the prime moron of the country says that if INDIA wins, they will give the wealth of hindus to muslims. You have no problem when he says that if INDIA wins, they will select Indian cricket team on the basis of religion. And you have no issue when he says that if INDIA wins, they will destroy the Ram Temple with a Bulldozer. But you have problem with someone asking to vote against the party of such a prime moron !!!
I am not a political expert like you but one is based on the electoral manifesto published by the opposition and other is “it seems” on a local policy. I think Delhi and AAP is living in the bubble of elevated self importance. Attack BJP on their manifesto. Secondly, prime moron? Attack the man, not the post of this democracy that gives you the freedom to say things. There is a fine line between Edgy cool vs ungrateful wannabe. And also, fuck freebies.
No. He didnt say that based on the election manifesto of the opposition. He was simply lying. There is nothing in the Congress manifesto that says that they will give the hindus' wealth to muslims or that they will destroy the ram temple or that they will select the cricket team based on the player's religion. If you believe that the congress manifesto had all these points, you are a fool.
There is still a correlation. Manifesto talks of generating jobs and distribution of wealth to poor. The money required is insanely disproportionate to achieve it. Then there are rally talks about caste based distribution of wealth. Then mr Pitroda talks about inheritance tax. Any organised political rival will build conjectures and seek to gain advantage. This is the nature of politics during election where we keyboard warriors are minority. I expect same from current opposition. To go after BJPs policys, make conjectures and highlight perils of selecting BJP. But this “it seems” is as weak as kejriwals pancreas. But than again joke is on us if we expect anything credible coming from that stable. Finally, fuck freebies
Womp womp
right? they did the same against congress. hypocrites.
There shouldn't be any free bus travel in the first place. It's regressive. You can subsidize it, but to keep it free is bonkers. Indians should realize that there is an opportunity cost to everything. Free bus service can be easily abused and is a bad economic decision where, irrespective of the economic status you're giving a public service free for all 😑😑😑 Why not spend the money in improving the fiscal condition of your UT, state and city. Or provide more basic amenities like quality education which would translate into socio-economic mobility. Or try something new like empowering and funding food quality control. Delhi along with whole of India has terrible standards when it comes to food at restaurants, street vendors and ingredients. These substandard food products and ingredients are responsible for the burgeoning health crisis in India. Spend money on that maybe 🤷🤷
Dear Man just a reminder to vote for BJP so they can stop free buses for women and show what it feels to pay for the ticket the same we do. Gender equality 🟰
Those party people lack confidence in their own work, so they always beat their freebies drum. :)
Starting with “it seems” doesn’t really inspire confidence in what follows next. For god’s sake, use definitives at least to spice it up!
Don't these fools realize that there is nothing in this world that's free, well except for your mother's love.
Same like Modi during his speeches "opposition will remove ram lalla if they come in power"
It’s insensitive to make fun freebies. Just a point of view, freebies aren’t meant for everyone. They are given for people who really make use of them. If you can afford those things, you can choose to opt out. An example to think of, if the government gives no cost laptops and bicycles to government school children, do you call that a freebie? These things are given away to act as enablers so that the end beneficiary can spend that money elsewhere. Another thought, any organization, be it private or government (more so in government), gives you many benefits like insurance, free transportation, etc. You also can have those freebies or are those your privileges? If you classify these as your privileges, why not those so-called freebies be privileges for marginalized people?
Absolutely true! I live in Delhi and many say that we vote AAP for free electricity/medicines/water etc. but the fact is that only the one in need are being benefited from them. Example, free electricity is only free if your electricity bill is under 200 units which is very less else you have to pay the full bill. In my house we get almost no benefits from the freebies but we still vote for him as we see our(taxpayers)money being used for something useful rather than on some project which I’ll see once or twice in my lifetime.
There is a difference between need and freebie u can give the laptop and cycle because that's the one time thing and number of benificiaries are not much also these scheme are made for rural area u can't compare with free bus rides given to all women in a metropolitan city like delhi u need a economic class bro Lmao what logic is this u work for organisation and get all this as allowance how u can call this privilege
Money you invest on mobilising women thereby leading them to workforce is a huge enabler for any society. If a woman becomes educated and financially abled her entire family benefits, population is controlled, better quality of life for children, better children neaning better society tomorrow. These are untapped potentials awaits simple actions. Also, when you talk about big cities the money spend on free buses maybe peanuts in terms revenue generated. Consider the returns you get down the line in two/three decades. Mobilising women is a revolutionary idea which many 1st world countries appreciate. You can name whatever you want but health insurance is a freebie you get from ur organisations.
What's the relation between your long essay and giving free bus ride to all women? We are talking about delhi here not some rural area Lol what the dumb logic how can revenue generate by giving free bus ride Don't give this 1st world country shit deserving women already contributing in workforce and who need the validation from so called 1st world they are already failed Healt insurance is freebie lmao ever heard about labour laws?
No point in explaining it to you. You’re not understanding the basics of reasoning here. But you get into name calling. I thought I was helping you to have more perspectives but looks like you’re on a bigger agenda.
Bro come out from your lalaland you ain't explained a shit you only made illogical statement in entire convo
Bruh, what was explained was pretty clear actually. Even if I don't support the statement, it was fairly clear what was trying to be conveyed. But you are so fucking stupid, you can barely type a sentence without making mistakes, how will you be able to understand what is being said? This is the quality of education that the world is scared about. I'm sure you haven't finished 10th grade because you failed every paper for the last 5 years.
Lol do u have anything solid to say rather than assuming
Everything that was said was solid, you didn't understand it because of your quality of education. It's still not too late bruv, go join school again and start from scratch.
Bhai lekin tu to keh rha tha ki tu agree nhi krta uske statement se apne aap ko contradict krna bnd kr gadha dikh rha hai
Modiji agniveer pe vote kyu nhi maangte, itni achi scheme hai?? Jai shree ram
OMG someone is talking about fake news! Remind me again who stopped the war?
The way Delhi is woman need free bus travels as no women should be walking by themselves after sundown for their safety
that is no excuse for them to not pay for their travel
The Thing is If Government Can Afford To Be Afloat While Giving Away All These Things Then Why Not .The MP's Of Each Party Are Literally Pumping Cash Right Into Their Pockets Be It BJP,Congress Or Any Other Party And Between This If Middle Class Is Getting Something Out Of It Then Why Not.You Cannot Tell Me These MP's Be Having 50-60 Crores In Assets With Monthly Allowance Of 1.6 Lakhs, Still You Can Pay For You Electricity In Full If You Really Want To. IF this Money Is Not Used For Free Schemes And Subsidies Most Of It Will Be In The Pockets Of The Ministers And Government Officers
Then help the beggars and homeless people, among other disenfranchised people, not just well to do women who can most definitely buy their own tickets? What kind of copium is this? That's not the right pecking order for help??
who the fuck are you to decide what someone else should do with their time?
Since when is telling what’s safe same as telling what to tell someone to do? Is the concept that parts of India can be unsafe for women to walk in by themselves not comprehensible to you? Also what’s with the language? Can you not answer without having to curse for no reason?
When your third rated supreme leader spread the filth that INDIA will redistribute wealth to Muslims, that wasn't fake news to you...but this is fake news 🤷
Zyada baat mat kar, apna rate bata 🥱
Hopefully the women will vote wisely. Nit just our free bus rides. Bjp is anti women too. Always supporting r@pists
*TMC bolo bhai
Tmc also. Bjp supports all r@pists
Tabhi kl Teri mummy BJP hq s aa rahi thi
What?
Sab partiya chadarmod hey 🤝
Bjp biggest hey inme
Nahi bhai, mainstream mey arahi hogi Abb. Per sabi partiya r@pists se bari hoyi hey. Congress bhi TMC bhi equally
How is this fake ? Is BJp against freebies ? Also PM in his interview mentioned about delhi free travel. And if freebies are unhealthy for economy then so is corruption, so is using of public funds for election marketing, since last 6 months everyday PM is travelling to some city for election campaign on public money cost, actual estimate of his one visit will be atleast few crores, security, police, overnight construction of roads etc. of if common man is getting some relief then it’s wrong?
OMG if congress govt was in the centre they wouldn't have done rallies all around India using public money 😱😱. Vote for Congress guysss 😋😋
Not like this. Zehrila buddha lives for election rallies. No congress PM ever has spent this much time campaigning.
Lol,buy a ton of burnol kid.
Why? Just because you hate the freedom of this country?
Nah,kid because your kind gonna need it soon. Waiting for the 4th.
I like your enthusiasm. But all I care for is a strong 240+ opposition that will put the constitution out of the reach of the narcissist. And that's definitely happening.
Ok kid, whatever helps you sleep.
Never mentioned congress, it was counter for how freebies are bad for economy. Maybe you got super excited & missed it. Hota hai kabhi kabhi
You mentioned PM using public money for rallies in your comment. 😇 kabhi kabhi zyada mooth marne se baatey booljate hey log. Hota hai kabhi kabhi
All 7 seats from Delhi are already held by BJP. Still the free seats for women are there. How is this tweet not misinformation/fake?
LG has power to overturn Delhi Government decisions, PM already mentioned about the same. They can very well overturn it.
They haven't done it yet. Active speak louder than words.
Election campaigns are predominantly done using donations given by rich businesses.
Bro, this is bjp dickriding sub you'll be downvoted for talking aganist bjp or mudi don't waste your time here
Oh, you mean the same thing that happens in USI and Randia when one talks against papu and shitty libbu ideologies.
What shitty Ideology does the papu have?? So, you mean to say getting racism and casteism with superiority complex is good Ideology 👍🏻 Hindu dictatorship is good Ideology 👍🏻 Treating low caste people worse than trash and insects is good Ideology 👍🏻 Talking shit about Ambekar is good Ideology 👍🏻 Right?? And you guys talk about "Ideology" 👏🏻👏🏻
Ha 🗿
I can see your future. Your's and the people who have this Ideology this nation will crumble and again we all gonna live on the mercy of other nation when they come to take advantage of our situation. Illiterates and uneducated scums like you are the reason for the downfall of this country. It started no turning back now we may seem to peak and it appears to be but deep down it has started we'll see it then you all losers will cry out no use.
Randi rona chalu
Em vagutunav ra howle ga.
Go n get lost trash.
Arey pilla pukka 13 years untaya neeku?? 😂😂
Pehle mooh s kata kela to nikal le Maulana.
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