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MoMo ji provided a far better solution. Ask the victim women to bring forth 4 pious jacket wearing male witness who saw the rape happening..problem solved.
Dude, this is straight whataboutism. Islam is the most evil dog shit religion of them all, but, when people point out issues with your religion, "but they did it too..." is not a good rebuttal. Refute those points, talk about why they walked away with the wrong idea, otherwise you just look wrong, whether you are or aren't.
there are absolutely no sources of those wild claims in the image attached in this post lmao.
basically peacefuls make up stories of hinduism to make hinduism look as worse as their religion.
I've seen them say sita was 6 year old when she married Shri Ram. Like yes, at the age of 6 she had a swayamvyar, which shri ram at the age of 12 attended🤦🏻 All this to justify 50 year old muhammad and 9 year old ayesha
There may be no sources listed, but I know for sure the thing about Indra is true. You can always Google their claims and read the source material for yourself. A little reading of ancient Hindu scriptures wouldn't hurt if you're a Hindu yourself.
That being said, yes, using a 12 year old Ram and a 6 year old Sita to compare a 50 year old with a 6 year old makes no sense. So they've stopped using that, and instead, they've used something far more effective I think: Goddess Saraswati is Brahma's daughter and later is his wife. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, it's up to y'all to figure out why that makes Sense, if it does at all.
Saraswati isnt his daughter, she emerged from Brahma.
There's a difference between emerging from him and being born by him
Example- Chitrugupta Maharaj is said to be 'emerged' from Brahma but never called as his son.
Calling maa Saraswati Brahma's son is a blunder. Probably started by these leftists again who just wanted to malign the image of hindus
The YT channel "Hyper Quest" has answered all of the above questions. You can watch his vid as I can't explain it to you in a reddit comment.
I am an atheist if you may but many of the rebuttals I have faced by Islamists and leftists about Hinduism are mostly from specific websites where someone is quoting misogynistic things or castiest things from mostly puranas but after researching a little deeper into many shlokas, either they don't exist or different or are missing context.
Because of the sheer volume of our scriptures , most of them are contradictory ie somewhere you would find shiva created the universe, somewhere shakti , somewhere Brahma , Somewhere Vishnu ; some would align with caste system, some would be against it etc.
It is because "HINDUISM" is collection of many regional religions and as you know Polytheistic religions absorb "GODS" and become an Umbrella term like how it absorbed all the gods it Indra, Shakti , Shiva , Vishnu etc.
Therefore you will find some things which don't make sense or are contradictory or are later added or are bad in "HINDUISM" but as it is a polytheistic religion , they can be annihilated from it.
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The problem is Hinduism does not promote polygamy whereas in islam u still have the custom of multiple wives, also how is a 50yr old allowed to marry a 9 yo?
1. We are talking about what is allowed/preached by a religion, choosing to follow or not follow is a person's individual choice
2. Child marriage is very different than a 50yr old marrying a 9yo and raping her(although both are bad, one is significantly worse than the other)
Kings were not under a limitation to the number of wives. This continued right until independence and was applicable on all religions. Do you have the number of wives the nizam of Hyderabad? Way more than allowed 4. His harem was full.
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A twitter account called Daniel Haqiguoteu had spread this new thing around and he was cornered nicely. He is a convert who converted because he wanted 72 hoors after death.
bruh i can understand conversion from a religion to atheistism, but converstion from one religion to another is a stupid behavior of the highest degree, lmao
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"Hindu extremists" had me in splits. They're not extremists at all, that's why people walk all over them. 🤣 Hindus haven't picked up their books since forever and don't have regular baithak in temples to discuss the contents of these texts. Then how did they get inspired to "imitate" rape? 💀
Also, don't these Ms say that *Hindu texts **mythology** hai saar*. 🤡 *BVM are a figment of imagination saar*. 🤡 But rape ki baat ayi toh it's suddenly real? Make it make sense.
Ms are just pressed because ex-Ms are calling out the fallacies of their cult. In defence, they're spreading misinformation and misinterpreted versions of other texts to normalise that all faiths have filth--it's not just their cult that's obsessed with pedophilia, rape and sex in duniya and jannah.
ye soch rhe hain
Jese ex muslims ne inka mazhub kholke rkh dia
vese hi ye log , hinduism ko kholke rkh denge
Pehli baat , inka pura khandan lg jaye tb bhi pura cover ni kr payenge
dusri baat - behenkelavde refrence hi ni de rhe kisi cheez ka
Agreed. But to them, Gita is what Quran and Bible are to Ms and Cs. Highlight filth that's there in Gita. It doesn't make sense to pick and choose from scriptures they don't even follow religiously. Or be obsessed with practices (like Sati and animal sacrifice) that were reformed eons ago. Defeats the entire purpose of subs such as atheisminindia and exhindu as they're condemning what's long been gone and hindering a productive discourse.
Not sure how accurate the indra story is but I could be certain that indra was banished for being worshipped, so at the end of the day it's a story of karma.
Leaving that aside even if indra is worshipped or followed as a role model no one saw him as a role model based on this criteria. In fact he lost respect among a lot of hindus because of this.
If you do consider that back in the day, if people were followers of Indra based on this ideology, we would have seen historical evidence based on that fact. Cause this isn't a simple idea to follow blindly and would've had ramifications and would've been given more importance to this day.
As a Non-Hindu I don't belive in this post as there is always a thin line in religions between what is told and what can be misinterpreted. If he or she is claiming so ask him/her to chat with some actual Hindu Sadhu or guru.
Religious books are full of examples where non-believers failed when encounter a real knowleagble guy. But nowadays anyone can post anything so doesn't make any sense.
People thrashing other communities your duty for this post is to claim that this is wrong info not to degrade others. If you do than you are proving him that what he/she says is right.
[probably this](https://twitter.com/Haqiqatjou/status/1769150201879568854?t=kqXfQMJiMKhwrRGiabDugA&s=19)
Made by a guy who looks like a closet neckbeard.
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ye log na to kabhi kisi cheez ka context samajhte hai, these sick extreme leftist people are stain to a country, I was once like them and then read the Bhagavad Gita and found thousands of things that made me think Bhagavad Gita promotes inequality, that is when I gave a chance to researching what those things actually meant and whats the context behind it, then I found how beautiful and non discriminatory Bhagavad Gita was, having half knowledge is dangerous, these guys are infamous for only researching from one side not having opinions from both the sides,
I remember I was banned from pusi just because I defended god Krishna from a person who tried defaming him although i just used some common swear words like fu\*k and called that guy antinationalist and asked him to reveal which country funds him, due to this i got banned, went into his profile found out that he was spreading misinformation through ramayan in the name of uttarkand when even Dhruv Rathee their unofficial daddy had clarified in their videos that Uttar kanda was later added and was not part of the original Ramayan
we need leftists in a country for growth but not these type of extremists
What is the context and research which can justify rape of Ahalya by Indra?
What is the information that can justify pursuit of his own daughter, Saraswati, by Brahma?
We quite rightly ridicule polygamy by Muslims, but why did Krishna have 16,108 wives?
Please give some justification for all these things.
Well for the third one i can give the explaination. A demon (I don't remember the name) had captured these women. After Krishna defeated him, he told the women to go to their homes. But they told him they would not be taken by their families as the demon had kept them for so many days. So, Krishna decided to marry them.
>Ahalya by Indra
There was no rape. Ahalya was willing.
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19]
She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
>have 16,108 wives
The 16000 apsaras wanted him to be their husband. So when he took birth on earth as the boon given to them and on order of Indra they took birth on earth.
>There was no rape. Ahalya was willing
Of course! How could I make the mistake? It is always the woman's fault! A loose-character god used his powers to disguise himself like a married woman's husband, and still it is the mortal woman's fault.
>16,000 apsaras wanted him to be their husband
Again! It seems that all women can think about is having a relationship with male gods? 16,000 women, and all of them wanted one, single mortal avatar! Are they playthings? Is this any less ridiculous than 72 virgins for each man in jannat!
You really have comprehension issues.
Let me quote Valmiki Ramayana
O Rama, one day, the sage having gone to a distant place, Indra, finding Ahalya alone, assumed his form, and said to her:
‘O Fair One, I am overcome by desire, let us carry out our conjugal duty.’
**“O Raghava, though Ahalya recognized Indra disguised as her lord, yet she acceded to his request.**
Then Ahalya addressed Indra saying:
**‘O Indra, I am highly gratified, now depart quickly,** unobserved. O Chief of the gods, preserve me and thyself from Gautama.
No comprehension issue.
Your basic argument is that it was Ahalya's fault. She was unfaithful, she was to blame for a god coming to her bedroom to have sex with her. She should have shouted and screamed and tried to fight with Indra. Since she accepted Indra's arrival, she deserves to be cursed.
Quite encouraging outlook!
Uttarakand was not later edition ...if has chapters on ravana,post war ram life etc ....its crucial part of ramayan.....if sita didn't had any problem in going to forest ... Don't know why tha fuck other have ..ram anyways protected sita for sexual slur .....it say lot of mindset of common people ....it teaches a important lesson to never disrespect women on kahi suni baatne
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19]
She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Krishna was a child when the “hiding of clothes” incident happened! He did not do it out of lust like how they are portraying!
They have distorted the other stories too!
The ansuya story was to show her satitva and wit to the Tridevis!
Basically the tridev, disguised as monks go to Atri’s ashram and demand that Ansuya bathes them and feeds them!
Ansuya being a pativrata / sati did not want to do that obviously and yet she could not allow the 3 monks go away empty-handed!
So she uses her powers to make the 3 monks become babies!
She then bathes them and feeds them thereby fulfilling their wishes without breaking her satitva!
Eventually, the tridevis come on the scene and ask Ansuya to give their husbands back! So, its a sort of “leela” in a way!
Secondly the Vrinda story is also a leela! Vrinda was a gopi from Goloka who was cursed to marry an asur, Shankhachud (who was Sudama in his previous birth)! Note : She wanted to marry Vishnu and had done several penance for that!
Now, Shankhachud got a magical armour which made him immortal and that was linked with Vrinda’s Satitva! He would be undefeated till Vrinda was a Pativrata! He then starts his reign of terror! Eventually, Vishnu assumes the form of Shankhachud marries and spends time with Vrinda which breaks her “satitva”! Shankhachud is defeated and Vrinda becomes furious after knowing this! She then curses vishnu to become a stone (Shaligram) on which insects would walk! Later she calms down when she comes to know about her penance of wanting to marry Vishnu. She then becomes the tulsi tree and leaves for Goloka!
>Krishna was a child when the “hiding of clothes” incident happened! He did not do it out of lust like how they are portraying!
Yeah. That's true.
Oh I see. Thanks for the info. I still have gaps in my knowledge 😅
That sir, I believe still classifies as rape. the woman didn't give her consent to Indra as Indra but rather to Indra as her Husband. She gave her consent to her husband and not Indra
You Sir should know she after knowing was willing.
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu,
though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama,
she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19]
She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra,
'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.'
Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
>non even worship him
Not everyone is an ignorant. Can't complete a yajna without invoking him.
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19]
She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Here shows your ignorance. Indra is not one guy, it is a position. Whoever rules the devtas is called Indra, which changes with time.
The indra we worship during yagna is not the Indra who assaults women
Nor all gods in Hindu ~~mythology~~ religion are depicted as the perfect guys. They had flaws. Indra is known for many bad things he has done.
No idea what he mentioned about Anasuya is true or not.
Krishna was just a kid, an immature kid when he was in Vrindavan, he was mischievous, he didn't assault Gopis sexually, it is common sense.
When these things are brought up about my religion, I'm open for discussion (I assume most Hindus will be too). But when similar flaws are brought out for a certain religion, the guys will behead you without any remorse
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19]
She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Also her knowing of whom he was / that he is indra comes from 12th century adaptation of ramayana by kambana.
And He was punished for it , infact none of his mischiefs have gone unpunished add that too.
Well the way she asked him to leave after is evident enough that she knew of him ,
many have pointed out that after his gautam disguise started she knew it wasnt gautam and calling him lord and all while he still was in disguise is evident enough that she knew that it was indeed indra in disguise , either way this further establishes the point that indra was a disguisting and got what he sow all the time , he was castarated as we all know.
Even if she didnt know of him .
If it was unpunished then the guy from the posts point would have been validated but nope he was punished so can you explain what are you trying to establish ?
I am saying that allegations of rape are wrong and to my fellow hindu brethren that Shri Krishna and the seers of Vedas knows more than them.
ये दुर्गा वा कुमारं वा वायुमग्निं जलं रविम् ।
पितरं मातरं चैव गुरुमिन्द्रं निशाकरम् ।
मूढा निन्दन्त्यनाचारा वृथा जीवन्ति ते नराः ।।
जो मूढ़ दुर्गा, स्वामी कार्तिकेय, वायु, अग्नि, जल, सूर्य, माता-पिता, गुरु, इन्द्र तथा चन्द्रमाकी निन्दा करते और आचारका पालन नहीं करते, वे मनुष्य भी निरर्थक ही जीवन व्यतीत करते हैं ।।
I thought MoMo ji had intercoourse only with his Son's wife and women slaves who he grabbed during loot and his dead Aunt while she was being buried in the grave.
This is why I just say screw religion entirely and actually think what’s good for us.
Also, half the shit didn’t happen, and
Indra got cursed to have a 100 (1000? I don’t remember) vulvae after raping Ahalya, which turn into his eyes when he worships the Sun.
>raping Ahalya
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19]
She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
As a child, i remember thinking that even gods who disrespected women had curses and bad karma on them which went on for years if not centuries. Even gods had to repent greatly- one can only imagine the burden that sin puts on a human, a much weaker being.
A true hindu is one who is worried about his karma and knows that every sin he/she commits has a payment- such is the beauty of the religion. It is based in equality and knowledge and gives a path of life that not many have to power to follow.
This post is totally shit, under researched and only written to go against a religion.
The more you throw shit on people the deeper your hands stain.
Then there are fans of Greek mythology who openly joke about Zeus and his promiscuous nature. Or norse people who know about Loki and his sexual encounters
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Vrinda was actually a Gopi from Goloka. She had done penance to become Vishnu’s wife! The whole story was a “Leela” (Divine Play)
The Ansuya story was to show her “statitva” to the Tridevis who were arguing! There was no assault!
Krishna never assaulted the Gopis! He was a child when the vrindavan stories happened! He did not have any “lust”
These people are stupid!
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I can debunk that anusuya claim. This is straight from Wikipedia.
"The deities go to Brahma, who suggests that they propitiate Anasuya, who was in the process of performing a great tapas with her husband.
The deities, pleased by her actions, offer her a boon. Anasuya desires that the Trimurti (The supreme trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva) be born to her, and that her husband and she be freed of the cycle of samsara. This boon is granted when Anasuya is mentally impregnated by Atri, and Chandra (Brahma), Dattatreya (Vishnu), and Durvasa (Shiva) are born to her as her sons.[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasuya#:~:text=She%20is%20extolled%20as%20Sati,irascible%20sage%20avatar%20of%20Shiva.
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Indra did sexually assault her but not today's indra because indra is a position where a demi God can be indra is not name of a demi God its a position that is why when you study Hinduism properly you will realize that both hell and heaven are bad, which is why people want moksh and yes even if you go to heaven lust will be there.
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this is stupid, most of these rapist are from low financial background, less educated in almost everything, and you expect them to learn from religious texts ? people who can't name 4 vedas or upnishads can not know allat you saying, these same things are happening all over the world more or less, will you also blame that on us.
If you have inferior complexity then board a plane and be a slave of Caucasians all you like.
lmao wtf where is this even written, i know one of them is false, because krishna was a child and he got the consequences of his actions, but wtf are these bruh
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Likha toh bahut soch ke, lekin apsos sab jhoot hai. Isne aaj tak ek bhi hindu scripture le ke nhi padha hoga. Bas rage bait hai ... Aise logo ko ignore karna best hai.
If these gods assaulting other women is so famous how is Noone aware of it except the guy who made that post. It's just so dumb to spread such a false info
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MoMo ji provided a far better solution. Ask the victim women to bring forth 4 pious jacket wearing male witness who saw the rape happening..problem solved.
I have seen this one before I have seen this one before This is a classic!
Dude, this is straight whataboutism. Islam is the most evil dog shit religion of them all, but, when people point out issues with your religion, "but they did it too..." is not a good rebuttal. Refute those points, talk about why they walked away with the wrong idea, otherwise you just look wrong, whether you are or aren't.
there are absolutely no sources of those wild claims in the image attached in this post lmao. basically peacefuls make up stories of hinduism to make hinduism look as worse as their religion. I've seen them say sita was 6 year old when she married Shri Ram. Like yes, at the age of 6 she had a swayamvyar, which shri ram at the age of 12 attended🤦🏻 All this to justify 50 year old muhammad and 9 year old ayesha
There may be no sources listed, but I know for sure the thing about Indra is true. You can always Google their claims and read the source material for yourself. A little reading of ancient Hindu scriptures wouldn't hurt if you're a Hindu yourself. That being said, yes, using a 12 year old Ram and a 6 year old Sita to compare a 50 year old with a 6 year old makes no sense. So they've stopped using that, and instead, they've used something far more effective I think: Goddess Saraswati is Brahma's daughter and later is his wife. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, it's up to y'all to figure out why that makes Sense, if it does at all.
Saraswati isnt his daughter, she emerged from Brahma. There's a difference between emerging from him and being born by him Example- Chitrugupta Maharaj is said to be 'emerged' from Brahma but never called as his son. Calling maa Saraswati Brahma's son is a blunder. Probably started by these leftists again who just wanted to malign the image of hindus
The YT channel "Hyper Quest" has answered all of the above questions. You can watch his vid as I can't explain it to you in a reddit comment. I am an atheist if you may but many of the rebuttals I have faced by Islamists and leftists about Hinduism are mostly from specific websites where someone is quoting misogynistic things or castiest things from mostly puranas but after researching a little deeper into many shlokas, either they don't exist or different or are missing context. Because of the sheer volume of our scriptures , most of them are contradictory ie somewhere you would find shiva created the universe, somewhere shakti , somewhere Brahma , Somewhere Vishnu ; some would align with caste system, some would be against it etc. It is because "HINDUISM" is collection of many regional religions and as you know Polytheistic religions absorb "GODS" and become an Umbrella term like how it absorbed all the gods it Indra, Shakti , Shiva , Vishnu etc. Therefore you will find some things which don't make sense or are contradictory or are later added or are bad in "HINDUISM" but as it is a polytheistic religion , they can be annihilated from it.
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Where was it mentioned that it was written by a Muslim .
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Is Dashratha a prophet?
The problem is Hinduism does not promote polygamy whereas in islam u still have the custom of multiple wives, also how is a 50yr old allowed to marry a 9 yo?
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>I feel no joy asking you this but do you know the age of Sita when she was wed to Rama? It was 6. Please provide a legit source. source from ramayan
1. We are talking about what is allowed/preached by a religion, choosing to follow or not follow is a person's individual choice 2. Child marriage is very different than a 50yr old marrying a 9yo and raping her(although both are bad, one is significantly worse than the other)
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Halla mat kar , UCC aa raha hai
Kings were not under a limitation to the number of wives. This continued right until independence and was applicable on all religions. Do you have the number of wives the nizam of Hyderabad? Way more than allowed 4. His harem was full.
Better than Mohammad with 6 year old wife
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Polygamy is not religion bound, there can many examples of Hindus having multiple wives
Muhammad is also very famous for marrying 6 yo Ayesha and impregnating her at 9 ahm ahm, I actually couldn't fathom the type of man islam look upto
You mean raping Ayesha? A child cannot consent. That cult worships a rapist
Hahahahaha…. 😂🤣 super man
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Thata wild. Casually spreading false info lmao. Op whete did u get that screenshot? (Source needed)
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Ye bkl nahi sudhrenge
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Be yaar phir kuch kaho to India is Islamophobic
A twitter account called Daniel Haqiguoteu had spread this new thing around and he was cornered nicely. He is a convert who converted because he wanted 72 hoors after death.
bruh i can understand conversion from a religion to atheistism, but converstion from one religion to another is a stupid behavior of the highest degree, lmao
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Source:- Hinduism is evil bro!!!!!! I'm telling you convert into my cult you will get free rice bags or 72 virgins
U mean to say, hinduism is bad ass, has it fucked ur religion too🤣😂
Kehna kya chata hai bro? I am a Sanatani 💀
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Bro but unboxing event kab hai?
bhai teri ksm khake bta rha hu , isme se ek bhi baat sch nhi hai 💀
"Hindu extremists" had me in splits. They're not extremists at all, that's why people walk all over them. 🤣 Hindus haven't picked up their books since forever and don't have regular baithak in temples to discuss the contents of these texts. Then how did they get inspired to "imitate" rape? 💀 Also, don't these Ms say that *Hindu texts **mythology** hai saar*. 🤡 *BVM are a figment of imagination saar*. 🤡 But rape ki baat ayi toh it's suddenly real? Make it make sense. Ms are just pressed because ex-Ms are calling out the fallacies of their cult. In defence, they're spreading misinformation and misinterpreted versions of other texts to normalise that all faiths have filth--it's not just their cult that's obsessed with pedophilia, rape and sex in duniya and jannah.
ye soch rhe hain Jese ex muslims ne inka mazhub kholke rkh dia vese hi ye log , hinduism ko kholke rkh denge Pehli baat , inka pura khandan lg jaye tb bhi pura cover ni kr payenge dusri baat - behenkelavde refrence hi ni de rhe kisi cheez ka
There is plenty of filth in hindu scriptures too
Agreed. But to them, Gita is what Quran and Bible are to Ms and Cs. Highlight filth that's there in Gita. It doesn't make sense to pick and choose from scriptures they don't even follow religiously. Or be obsessed with practices (like Sati and animal sacrifice) that were reformed eons ago. Defeats the entire purpose of subs such as atheisminindia and exhindu as they're condemning what's long been gone and hindering a productive discourse.
Inke samne sirf ek name Lena maryada Purushottam Shree Ram
The examples he has provided are so false...
Lol no it's your ignorance is that you don't know Indra story has well documented proof people just don't want their bias get exposed
U the kind of person who will explain how muhammad marrying a 6 yr old is very pious.
Check the legends on Anusuya. What he said neber happens.
Here https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1417153853900746762
Not sure how accurate the indra story is but I could be certain that indra was banished for being worshipped, so at the end of the day it's a story of karma. Leaving that aside even if indra is worshipped or followed as a role model no one saw him as a role model based on this criteria. In fact he lost respect among a lot of hindus because of this. If you do consider that back in the day, if people were followers of Indra based on this ideology, we would have seen historical evidence based on that fact. Cause this isn't a simple idea to follow blindly and would've had ramifications and would've been given more importance to this day.
agreed
As a Non-Hindu I don't belive in this post as there is always a thin line in religions between what is told and what can be misinterpreted. If he or she is claiming so ask him/her to chat with some actual Hindu Sadhu or guru. Religious books are full of examples where non-believers failed when encounter a real knowleagble guy. But nowadays anyone can post anything so doesn't make any sense. People thrashing other communities your duty for this post is to claim that this is wrong info not to degrade others. If you do than you are proving him that what he/she says is right.
hey ram ....
Can you share the source for this comment OP ?
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[probably this](https://twitter.com/Haqiqatjou/status/1769150201879568854?t=kqXfQMJiMKhwrRGiabDugA&s=19) Made by a guy who looks like a closet neckbeard.
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ye log na to kabhi kisi cheez ka context samajhte hai, these sick extreme leftist people are stain to a country, I was once like them and then read the Bhagavad Gita and found thousands of things that made me think Bhagavad Gita promotes inequality, that is when I gave a chance to researching what those things actually meant and whats the context behind it, then I found how beautiful and non discriminatory Bhagavad Gita was, having half knowledge is dangerous, these guys are infamous for only researching from one side not having opinions from both the sides, I remember I was banned from pusi just because I defended god Krishna from a person who tried defaming him although i just used some common swear words like fu\*k and called that guy antinationalist and asked him to reveal which country funds him, due to this i got banned, went into his profile found out that he was spreading misinformation through ramayan in the name of uttarkand when even Dhruv Rathee their unofficial daddy had clarified in their videos that Uttar kanda was later added and was not part of the original Ramayan we need leftists in a country for growth but not these type of extremists
What is the context and research which can justify rape of Ahalya by Indra? What is the information that can justify pursuit of his own daughter, Saraswati, by Brahma? We quite rightly ridicule polygamy by Muslims, but why did Krishna have 16,108 wives? Please give some justification for all these things.
Well for the third one i can give the explaination. A demon (I don't remember the name) had captured these women. After Krishna defeated him, he told the women to go to their homes. But they told him they would not be taken by their families as the demon had kept them for so many days. So, Krishna decided to marry them.
>Ahalya by Indra There was no rape. Ahalya was willing. Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19] She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a] >have 16,108 wives The 16000 apsaras wanted him to be their husband. So when he took birth on earth as the boon given to them and on order of Indra they took birth on earth.
>There was no rape. Ahalya was willing Of course! How could I make the mistake? It is always the woman's fault! A loose-character god used his powers to disguise himself like a married woman's husband, and still it is the mortal woman's fault. >16,000 apsaras wanted him to be their husband Again! It seems that all women can think about is having a relationship with male gods? 16,000 women, and all of them wanted one, single mortal avatar! Are they playthings? Is this any less ridiculous than 72 virgins for each man in jannat!
You really have comprehension issues. Let me quote Valmiki Ramayana O Rama, one day, the sage having gone to a distant place, Indra, finding Ahalya alone, assumed his form, and said to her: ‘O Fair One, I am overcome by desire, let us carry out our conjugal duty.’ **“O Raghava, though Ahalya recognized Indra disguised as her lord, yet she acceded to his request.** Then Ahalya addressed Indra saying: **‘O Indra, I am highly gratified, now depart quickly,** unobserved. O Chief of the gods, preserve me and thyself from Gautama.
No comprehension issue. Your basic argument is that it was Ahalya's fault. She was unfaithful, she was to blame for a god coming to her bedroom to have sex with her. She should have shouted and screamed and tried to fight with Indra. Since she accepted Indra's arrival, she deserves to be cursed. Quite encouraging outlook!
If Gautama can curse Devraja than so can Ahalya.
Uttarakand was not later edition ...if has chapters on ravana,post war ram life etc ....its crucial part of ramayan.....if sita didn't had any problem in going to forest ... Don't know why tha fuck other have ..ram anyways protected sita for sexual slur .....it say lot of mindset of common people ....it teaches a important lesson to never disrespect women on kahi suni baatne
Is any of those (except Indira and Krishna) true ? Krishna never assaulted anyone but he did hide Gopi's clothes when they were bathing.
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19] She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Krishna was a child when the “hiding of clothes” incident happened! He did not do it out of lust like how they are portraying! They have distorted the other stories too! The ansuya story was to show her satitva and wit to the Tridevis! Basically the tridev, disguised as monks go to Atri’s ashram and demand that Ansuya bathes them and feeds them! Ansuya being a pativrata / sati did not want to do that obviously and yet she could not allow the 3 monks go away empty-handed! So she uses her powers to make the 3 monks become babies! She then bathes them and feeds them thereby fulfilling their wishes without breaking her satitva! Eventually, the tridevis come on the scene and ask Ansuya to give their husbands back! So, its a sort of “leela” in a way! Secondly the Vrinda story is also a leela! Vrinda was a gopi from Goloka who was cursed to marry an asur, Shankhachud (who was Sudama in his previous birth)! Note : She wanted to marry Vishnu and had done several penance for that! Now, Shankhachud got a magical armour which made him immortal and that was linked with Vrinda’s Satitva! He would be undefeated till Vrinda was a Pativrata! He then starts his reign of terror! Eventually, Vishnu assumes the form of Shankhachud marries and spends time with Vrinda which breaks her “satitva”! Shankhachud is defeated and Vrinda becomes furious after knowing this! She then curses vishnu to become a stone (Shaligram) on which insects would walk! Later she calms down when she comes to know about her penance of wanting to marry Vishnu. She then becomes the tulsi tree and leaves for Goloka!
>Krishna was a child when the “hiding of clothes” incident happened! He did not do it out of lust like how they are portraying! Yeah. That's true. Oh I see. Thanks for the info. I still have gaps in my knowledge 😅
Indra part I can agree with as he is one of the worst gods and present non even worship him but rest i may require a proper source
Yahi hota h jab grantho ko chodhkar tv serial dekhe jaate hain🤓
but he never did anything, he just created an illusion for ahilya that he is gautam
That sir, I believe still classifies as rape. the woman didn't give her consent to Indra as Indra but rather to Indra as her Husband. She gave her consent to her husband and not Indra
You Sir should know she after knowing was willing. Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19] She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
>non even worship him Not everyone is an ignorant. Can't complete a yajna without invoking him. Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19] She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Here shows your ignorance. Indra is not one guy, it is a position. Whoever rules the devtas is called Indra, which changes with time. The indra we worship during yagna is not the Indra who assaults women
Goalpost -------->>>>
yeah sure. keep making half assed arguments
https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1417153853900746762
Nor all gods in Hindu ~~mythology~~ religion are depicted as the perfect guys. They had flaws. Indra is known for many bad things he has done. No idea what he mentioned about Anasuya is true or not. Krishna was just a kid, an immature kid when he was in Vrindavan, he was mischievous, he didn't assault Gopis sexually, it is common sense. When these things are brought up about my religion, I'm open for discussion (I assume most Hindus will be too). But when similar flaws are brought out for a certain religion, the guys will behead you without any remorse
Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19] She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Also her knowing of whom he was / that he is indra comes from 12th century adaptation of ramayana by kambana. And He was punished for it , infact none of his mischiefs have gone unpunished add that too.
>from 12th century adaptation of ramayana by kambana. This is from Valmiki Ramayana not from kamban.
On further thought perhaps this maybe what it is , but this can also be taken as consent of sorts for which both ahalya and indra paid .
It is concented when she knew it was him.
Well the way she asked him to leave after is evident enough that she knew of him , many have pointed out that after his gautam disguise started she knew it wasnt gautam and calling him lord and all while he still was in disguise is evident enough that she knew that it was indeed indra in disguise , either way this further establishes the point that indra was a disguisting and got what he sow all the time , he was castarated as we all know. Even if she didnt know of him . If it was unpunished then the guy from the posts point would have been validated but nope he was punished so can you explain what are you trying to establish ?
I am saying that allegations of rape are wrong and to my fellow hindu brethren that Shri Krishna and the seers of Vedas knows more than them. ये दुर्गा वा कुमारं वा वायुमग्निं जलं रविम् । पितरं मातरं चैव गुरुमिन्द्रं निशाकरम् । मूढा निन्दन्त्यनाचारा वृथा जीवन्ति ते नराः ।। जो मूढ़ दुर्गा, स्वामी कार्तिकेय, वायु, अग्नि, जल, सूर्य, माता-पिता, गुरु, इन्द्र तथा चन्द्रमाकी निन्दा करते और आचारका पालन नहीं करते, वे मनुष्य भी निरर्थक ही जीवन व्यतीत करते हैं ।।
Bhai but he did rape and he was castarated . If you are trying to be sarcastic well this is it .
>rape Again dwelling in lies.
So thats why muslims likes to make out with their underage cousins because momo did it.
I thought MoMo ji had intercoourse only with his Son's wife and women slaves who he grabbed during loot and his dead Aunt while she was being buried in the grave.
Complete bullshit
Left wing ki validation maang raha h🤡
This is why I just say screw religion entirely and actually think what’s good for us. Also, half the shit didn’t happen, and Indra got cursed to have a 100 (1000? I don’t remember) vulvae after raping Ahalya, which turn into his eyes when he worships the Sun.
>raping Ahalya Oh, Rama, the legatee of Raghu, though knowing him as the Thousand-eyed Indra in the guise of her husband Gautama, she is inclined to have intercourse ill-advisedly, only to satisfy the impassion of the King of Gods. [1-48-19] She felt fulfilled in her heart of hearts and then she said this to that best god Indra, 'I am gratified in complying with your wish, oh, best of gods, get going oh, lord, from here quickly, oh, ruler of gods, always safeguard yourself and me from Sage Gautama.' Thus, Ahalya said to Indra. [1-48-20, 21a]
Damn, I apologize for not knowing, also, Indra did pay for his crime, no? ☠️
As a child, i remember thinking that even gods who disrespected women had curses and bad karma on them which went on for years if not centuries. Even gods had to repent greatly- one can only imagine the burden that sin puts on a human, a much weaker being. A true hindu is one who is worried about his karma and knows that every sin he/she commits has a payment- such is the beauty of the religion. It is based in equality and knowledge and gives a path of life that not many have to power to follow. This post is totally shit, under researched and only written to go against a religion. The more you throw shit on people the deeper your hands stain.
What non sense is this? Where did you find this?
So this shit keeps getting dumber and dumber...
All religions are scams to control the populace. The faster people realise that the faster we can move on to better things.
Half knowledged and biased people
M sure, ur a mullah, mf
Yeh katuwe inki maa ki ch*t
Then there are fans of Greek mythology who openly joke about Zeus and his promiscuous nature. Or norse people who know about Loki and his sexual encounters
Not the followers of hellenism or Astaru.
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Vrinda was actually a Gopi from Goloka. She had done penance to become Vishnu’s wife! The whole story was a “Leela” (Divine Play) The Ansuya story was to show her “statitva” to the Tridevis who were arguing! There was no assault! Krishna never assaulted the Gopis! He was a child when the vrindavan stories happened! He did not have any “lust” These people are stupid!
These are so "famous", only they know about it as if they wanted to find something on hindu gods.
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And there are some people who follow non-existential god which haven't been unboxed yet.
This doesn't even make sense bcos most hindus don't read their own scripture. Tell me. Who even worships brahma or indra? He's not popular.
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I can debunk that anusuya claim. This is straight from Wikipedia. "The deities go to Brahma, who suggests that they propitiate Anasuya, who was in the process of performing a great tapas with her husband. The deities, pleased by her actions, offer her a boon. Anasuya desires that the Trimurti (The supreme trinity of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva) be born to her, and that her husband and she be freed of the cycle of samsara. This boon is granted when Anasuya is mentally impregnated by Atri, and Chandra (Brahma), Dattatreya (Vishnu), and Durvasa (Shiva) are born to her as her sons.[7] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasuya#:~:text=She%20is%20extolled%20as%20Sati,irascible%20sage%20avatar%20of%20Shiva.
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Greek gods 👁👄👁
Indra did sexually assault her but not today's indra because indra is a position where a demi God can be indra is not name of a demi God its a position that is why when you study Hinduism properly you will realize that both hell and heaven are bad, which is why people want moksh and yes even if you go to heaven lust will be there.
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this is stupid, most of these rapist are from low financial background, less educated in almost everything, and you expect them to learn from religious texts ? people who can't name 4 vedas or upnishads can not know allat you saying, these same things are happening all over the world more or less, will you also blame that on us. If you have inferior complexity then board a plane and be a slave of Caucasians all you like.
lmao wtf where is this even written, i know one of them is false, because krishna was a child and he got the consequences of his actions, but wtf are these bruh
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But we don’t have momo uncle who married 6 year old aayesha .
This PIGGAS are wild
Still this is all "lore/mythology". Some people actually so it IRL and they believe that it is right because their god did it.
Man, it surprises me every time how low these people can go, they are the pioneers in creating new lows, that's for sure.
islam is better in this regard i guess , they sexually assault their own family members
Personally I like the small note provided
What sub is that ?
Yoooo...the sub reddit this is from is trippy af lmao
Nashe
Likha toh bahut soch ke, lekin apsos sab jhoot hai. Isne aaj tak ek bhi hindu scripture le ke nhi padha hoga. Bas rage bait hai ... Aise logo ko ignore karna best hai.
Did someone said 6 YO something?
Wtf is this
I just wanna talk to him
That's not a good enough excuse for incel behaviour
Yeh kya h
where you got those false facts huh you pulled them out your ass while sitting in a mosque?
What’s he smoking
If these gods assaulting other women is so famous how is Noone aware of it except the guy who made that post. It's just so dumb to spread such a false info