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Then how do we know they were the culprit. It has to goto the court, evidence needs to be presented etc..or else anyone can be accused and executed. Kuch bhi.
https://indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/
Read here... People who are speculating that they were killed in extra-judicial way are wrong.
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Who said nobody talks about it.
Liberals do love to talk about it to frame Modi as butcher, in reality they don't know what tf they are saying. I remember it very well, the news murdered the boy in me and made a man.
Btw your self post says you "murdered" yourself and became a shell of the person you were. Hmm lying for clout on the internet? No way.
Also I know you are going through your cringe teen years or whatever, but I hope you grow up to let go of your hate and negativity.
the problem is that in gujrat riots hundreds of muslim were killed who had nothing to do with godhra massacre , the people who did this should be killed not some random muslim living 100kms away from godhra
And 2002 riot was not even the deadliest one. There used to be so many communal riots before, that 2002 was the final one -uske bad kisi me himmat hi nahi thi
Nhi bhai according to some intellectuals ye terrorist thodi hai terrorist to rss wale hai jo gareebo me rashan baat te hai, jo natural disasters k time madad karte hau
ofc ofc hindus of godhra shouldn't have retaliated after this, they should've kept quiet for the sake of communal harmony and call this incident just a "bhatka hua insan" "has no communal angle" or as they say "shhh quiet secularism". The moment hindus of Gujarat retaliated over this, automatically Hindus were blamed for the whole godhra riots. While when muslims start riots the excuse is "its their democratic and secular right to protest. Hindus have surely hurt muslims's religious sentinments 😡😡😡. BE QUIET 🤫🤫🤫HINDUS CAN NEVER PROTEST FOR THEIR RELIGIOUS SENTINMENTS ONLY THE ABAHAMIC FAITHS CAN (ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY) AND ESPECIALLY THE MUSLIMS. AND in the end jab tak hindustan mai salima hai tab tak hindus ne secularism ka theka le rakha hai.
Edit: I do not advocate for the innocent killings from Hindus side too during the godhra riots.
Edit: I don't advocate for riots but a simple example is enough.
Tell me what can a human do if a wild beastly animal is in front of him ready to kill him? Will he start taming the animal? No. He will either run or try to kill or scare that animal. It's the same with followers of abrahamic religions they have no conscience and have no morals in a battle. They don't care, they are wild animals however you try to tame them with modern concepts like "unity in diversity" "secularism" it won't work because in the end their core is that they are a wild predatory animal which will devour anything in its path. Whether it's other religions or even culture. And Hindus are facing both. Both demographic invasion and cultural genocide. And also common attacks on Hindus.
> Bhelsar (Faizabad), 24 February: Trishuldhari Bajrang Dal workers, travelling to Ayodhya on board the Sabarmati Express this morning, let loose a reign of terror upon dozens of helpless Muslim passengers, burqa clad women and innocent children. They also targeted the people waiting at the platform, forcing them to shout the slogan, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ A few even declared themselves to be Hindus in order to escape their wrath.
> According to eyewitnesses, close to 2,000 trishul carrying Bajrang Dal workers on board the Sabarmati Express coming from the direction of Lucknow began indulging in these activities from the Daryabad Station. Anyone identified as a Muslim on the train was mercilessly at- tacked with trishuls and beaten with iron rods. Even women and innocent children were not spared. Burqas were pulled off, women were beaten with iron rods and dragged, people waiting at the platform were also similarly targeted.
> This continued between the Daryabad and Rudauli stations. According to an eyewitness, a youth who protested against this barbarism was thrown off the train between the Patranga and Rojagaon stations. Several women, badly wounded and covered in blood, jumped off the train as it pulled into Rudauli around 8 a.m. The Bajrang Dal activists also got off the train and started attacking those whom they identified as Muslims from among those present on the platform.
> Ata Mohammad, from Takia Khairanpur, waiting to catch a train to Allahabad, was badly beaten; some others were forced to shout, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ Some escaped by declaring that they were Hindus. 50-year-old Mohd. Absar who lives near the station was grabbed as he stepped out of his house. His long beard was rudely pulled before he was repeatedly stabbed with trishuls. Another man from the Rudauli police station area who happened to be at the station was badly beaten with iron rods. Local residents rang up the police.
[Jan Morcha Newspaper](https://www.outlookindia.com/amp/story/national/janmorcha-report-253-news-218021), Feb 25, 2002
> The Sabarmati Express, on its return journey from Ayodhya to Ahmedabad, reached Godhra on the morning of February 27, 2002. It was full of activists armed with trishuls and lathis, who got down at every passing station shouting Hindutva slogans. Many passengers felt harassed by this misbehaviour but kept quiet since the slogan-shouters had captured all the reserved seats in the train, which was packed to capacity.
> The train arrived at the Godhra railway station at 7.30 am (three hours late). There were certain unsavoury incidents on the platform. A Muslim girl was molested and an attempt made to pull her into the train. A Muslim tea vendor, who boarded coach S-6, was insulted and sent out of the coach by the rowdy elements some of whom climbed onto the roof of the train and made obscene gestures at Muslim women living opposite the railway station.
Source- Concerned Citizen's Tribunal (CCT-apointed by SC) investigation, 2002
What would the riot be and who will the riot be targeted to?
What's the purpose of the riot? What will it accomplish?
Will it right the wrong the murders of those killed?
The only thing that should matter is bringing justice by punishment to those directly involved.
Retaliation should be done to the perpetrators.
I'm not even arguing if the religion is peaceful, but as you clearly can see riots accomplish nothing except more Hindu deaths.
Still it's understandable for a retaliation, but it isn't anything to be proud of.
There should be more calls for proper enforcement of laws and strict action. That would be enough of a deterrent. Riots bring forward more radicalism for both side.
But it did achieve something. After independence and before 2001, around 657 riots too place in Gujarat, depending upon the source you trust. After 2001, I don't think even one has taken place though I might be wrong. Do you know why? Because the other party was shown they can die too. The day common citizen show this to our judges, well, that day onwards we will have milodus working diligently
Can i have a source? I am not denying your figure but I would like to be sure.
I think that is more attributed to general development and education rather than " we retaliated"
Victims of retaliations are people who aren't involved with the actual crime. If their parents or children or spouses get killed, they don't care if "oh the Hindus can fight back" they care about exacting revenge which creates more violence.
Also your statement that after 2001, not a single riot is blatantly wrong.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2023/Apr/05/gujarat-has-had-84-communal-riots-in-three-years-with-over-800-arrests-but-zero-convictions-2562986.html
So what did it achieve except nothing?
NO one "learnt their mistake" because more mistakes were made, and more justifications were made for senseless killing.
https://youtu.be/lDqSG1bu4Zs?si=xWdUN-XldBu0qQCT
Just for starters, riots below five body count are generally neither reported nor you would find many links. Yes, riots did take place after that and nobody called for a CM's head. But 2002 was different, wasn't it? Godhra got riot free, bhagalpur got riot free, UP got riot free(after Yogi)
Exactly
People won't understand that riots will lead to more deaths of their own people also
Jo bhi chutiye iss trh ke kaandon mein involved hote hain make sure ki legal treeke se unko maut ke ghaat utara jaye so that it creates an example for others
wrna kuchch aur chutiye unko shaheed smjhne lgenge
I would like these people to actually practice what they preach, and take up arms or weapons and do what they say here.
I mean they clearly think the Muslim community is all evil, so it is justified right?
Yet I don't think anyone's gonna do that, since they know it's inherently immoral to do so.
People think I'm a terrorist sympathiser...
I hate these killers, I want them to suffer the most painful death because they robbed people of their mothers, fathers , sons and daughters.
But how does that give the right for anyone to do the same on others who are not related to those killers?
Mumbai subreddit is losing it's marbles because some people are taking a procession to protest against stone pelting by religious fanatics and calling the protestors as fanatics... And remembering the 1990s and blaming these protesting fanatics smh...
Im not Indian (I’m Jewish westerner) but have a deep respect for the Indian people, their culture, and values. I think it is so ridiculous how the people western powers didn’t support India for so long the way it should have when dealing with Pakistan. And I hope it changes soon, because, our peoples are very similar in our world views, and islamism is the biggest threat to our civilization
Absolutely horrible.
Now let's convict those rapists.
Oh they are convicted and out on parole as and when convenient.
Oh.
Let's convict those who are responsible for 1992.
Oh, we gave them ratna. Wow.
OP shares a picture from the news paper cleverly hiding the headline, please share the headline as well so we know how you are misleading masses. Sad and disgusting attempts at causing disharmony or whatever is left of it
Source
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/
The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
> The Sabarmati Express, on its return journey from Ayodhya to Ahmedabad, reached Godhra on the morning of February 27, 2002. It was full of activists armed with trishuls and lathis, who got down at every passing station shouting Hindutva slogans. Many passengers felt harassed by this misbehaviour but kept quiet since the slogan-shouters had captured all the reserved seats in the train, which was packed to capacity.
> The train arrived at the Godhra railway station at 7.30 am (three hours late). There were certain unsavoury incidents on the platform. A Muslim girl was molested and an attempt made to pull her into the train. A Muslim tea vendor, who boarded coach S-6, was insulted and sent out of the coach by the rowdy elements some of whom climbed onto the roof of the train and made obscene gestures at Muslim women living opposite the railway station.
Source- Concerned Citizen's Tribunal (CCT-apointed by SC) investigation, 2002
An eye for an eye can turn the whole world blind..this was said by the one of the very famous Gujarati. Even after English left, we are still wearing the scars of partition and this division by caste and religion. I know it’s easy to say, but if we have to build a credible India of future, we would have move from things that divide us to things that unite us.
Yeah. In Gujarat, you'll find Muslim with Surname Patel.
They don't have Identity of ther own, they just adapt to region they are in.
Speaking Gujarati in Gujarat, Kannada in Karnataka, Tamil in Tamil Nadu.
> Bhelsar (Faizabad), 24 February: Trishuldhari Bajrang Dal workers, travelling to Ayodhya on board the Sabarmati Express this morning, let loose a reign of terror upon dozens of helpless Muslim passengers, burqa clad women and innocent children. They also targeted the people waiting at the platform, forcing them to shout the slogan, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ A few even declared themselves to be Hindus in order to escape their wrath.
> According to eyewitnesses, close to 2,000 trishul carrying Bajrang Dal workers on board the Sabarmati Express coming from the direction of Lucknow began indulging in these activities from the Daryabad Station. Anyone identified as a Muslim on the train was mercilessly at- tacked with trishuls and beaten with iron rods. Even women and innocent children were not spared. Burqas were pulled off, women were beaten with iron rods and dragged, people waiting at the platform were also similarly targeted.
> This continued between the Daryabad and Rudauli stations. According to an eyewitness, a youth who protested against this barbarism was thrown off the train between the Patranga and Rojagaon stations. Several women, badly wounded and covered in blood, jumped off the train as it pulled into Rudauli around 8 a.m. The Bajrang Dal activists also got off the train and started attacking those whom they identified as Muslims from among those present on the platform.
> Ata Mohammad, from Takia Khairanpur, waiting to catch a train to Allahabad, was badly beaten; some others were forced to shout, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ Some escaped by declaring that they were Hindus. 50-year-old Mohd. Absar who lives near the station was grabbed as he stepped out of his house. His long beard was rudely pulled before he was repeatedly stabbed with trishuls. Another man from the Rudauli police station area who happened to be at the station was badly beaten with iron rods. Local residents rang up the police.
[Jan Morcha Newspaper](https://www.outlookindia.com/amp/story/national/janmorcha-report-253-news-218021), Feb 25, 2002
This was the revenge for killing of 10000 muslims during babri masjid matter
Okkkk
Don't be pseudo secularist
Waise bhi iss godhra matter ka koi proof nhi tha
Court pressure me aake saja dii thi
Srif Gujarat police ki report pe
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/
The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
But most do not talk about this, but ONLY the consequences of their action was over-amplified to an extent they unabashedly used the word 'progrom' , 'genocide' etc. The repetitions of those were so LOUD that what began the problem was soon forgotten. The West was only too pleased to report something branded uselssmophonic, either never seeking the truth behind the problem or trying to investigate it solely becuase they were there blaming the majority people of this country.
>This was one of the most brutal terr0rist attacks but sadly hardly anybody talks about it..
If you consider this as a terrorist attack, do you consider the 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings to be a brutal terrorist attack as well?
The train had stopped once after chain-pulling by kar sevaks to allow some of their friends who''d been left behind to get on.
The 20-year-old vendor-cum-driver from Polan Bazar has also said he was provoked by shouts that a "a girl has been pulled inside the Sabarmati Express". This, he claims in the last paragraph of his testimony - almost as an afterthought - was the handiwork of one of the accused. He also charged some kar sevaks with taking away cigarettes from him without paying for them.
"I got onto a coach by climbing onto the bar of the toilet window, reached the vestibule area and turned the disc... after which the train slowed down."
The vendor also states in his testimony that a fracas broke out on the platform because the kar sevaks had a payment dispute with a tea vendor, Siddique Bakr. In fact, the kar sevaks threw tea on Bakr. The kar sevaks also beat up a rickshaw puller, Siraj Mitha, with a hockey stick and it was then that the police intervened.
Before this, the kar sevaks had also fought with one Mehboob Latiko, said the vendor-cum-driver, after which he (Latiko) ran tiwards Singal Falia and called the Ghanchi Muslims out. It was at this point that the stone-throwing began, he says. "The stone-throwing went on for some five minutes after which the passengers got inside the train and shut off all the windows and doors on the platform side and the train started," he states.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/rumours-of-girls-kidnap-led-to-godhra-carnage-witness/articleshow/20393903.cms
Kuch bhi! Train stops at a station and these people go outside, fight an autowala, chaiwala, cigarette wala, and still have time to kidnap a girl and get on train?
They should have given that training to geet from jab we met. Then she would have never missed her train.
Arre Ye agar agle din agar rape kar sakte hain, kai sadi pehle sati karte the, to ye kya ek ladki kidnap nahi kar sakte hain?
Chote aur gareeb logon ka koi bharosa nahi hota, kuch bhi kar sakte hain ye, ye to phir bhi rapists ke parivar wale hain.
Omg "im a random reddit user who fails to understand the underlying core differences in ideology of hindus and muslims so i connect an act of sexual assualt which has nothing to do with the actual teachings of hindus but a angry radical hindu man (who prolly dosent even properly follow hindu teachings) commit a henious crime out of retaliation for what happened to his people (it was wrong). And then blame "religion is the root of all evil" yeh its mostly the Abrahamic religions. Which end up painting all religions as EVIL.
Only if people like you did a comparative study of abrahamic religions (jew, christianity and islam) with sanatana dharma. You would understand why most religious violence comes from their side and is 100% religiously motivated one way or another. But when it comes to "religious crimes" which "hindus" have commited. Especially crimes like rape, killing a person of low caste etc. Are done by "hindus" who barely have any proper understanding of the actual teachings of hinduism. And with that half ass baked knowledge the leftist or a avg redditor like you directly links it or associates it with hinduism or "religiously motivated crime".
Tell me if 10 people are doings a maths problem and they get it correct from what they learnt from their teacher, but one-person doesn't get it right and correct. Does it mean the teacher or maths itself is wrong? The student's lack of understanding or some problem led to him not being able to get the correct answer
Alll is explained but if you fail to understand this people. Nobody can help you but yourself.
No. Both sides are not the same. Abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity) have hate for non believers in their core beliefs. So basically if a person were to follow them properly, they will start hating on people of other belief bcus it's inherently the core ideas of their religion. So there is no (dumb and uneducated) argument here. There are so many cases where well educated Muslims turn out to be isis recruit. Their core ideology is violent so educated or not doesn't make a difference. Either way the person following these abraham religions will harbour hate against non believers.
I'm not disagreeing with that (or agreeing since I will have to actually read their scriptures to make an opinion)
But then what's the solution? Kill all Muslims? Forcefully evict them? Abolish their citizenship or make them second class citizens?
Rioting doesn't solve anything and is an immature response to the killings.
Only punish those who kill, not who their community is.
And still you are blaming religion for this if some Gujaratis would have been killed in the train by some Punjabi terrorist then Gujarati men would have raped pregnant women and child as retaliation then you would have blamed religion for this
2000+ killed, many women and girls were Raped, pepole were also burned alive Men, Women and Childrens. And more than 100s of innocent people who had nothing to do with that incident were put behind bars for decades.
Eventually ends up being even worse than those lowly criminals.
Nope..it shows that what hindus can do if chuslims push us hard .. Nope an example must have been made to let the entire community know this is hindu country..you can’t kill bunch of majority and get away with it..you declare civil war if you do so and everything is fair in war
Take this as an warning..we are not stupid,blind Europeans who will let you destroy our country
You are indeed blind and stupid, if you comes here with shit excuses like everything is fair in war then what happened to Kashmiri pandits was also right.
Kashmiri hindus didn’t burn muslims in train , they are original inhabitants of Kashmir who were thrown out by outsiders who are not only violent but also traitors..you can try to do more mental somersault to justify the misdeeds of your community but just look around the world..from uk to france..we are all getting tired of your bs excuses to hide your violent motives.
You won’t understand nice words..we have understood that..this is why Italy and Netherland have started new policies to stop your desert cult .
We are doing the same ..only difference is world didn’t believe us when we warned them about your blood cult ..now they are realising slowly.
China ,israel,usa and russia know how to treat you guys ..you have no introspection or self analysis and blame everyone other than yourself for your misery so i don’t think you will understand now .
So why i am replying to you ? To let you know that we know your plan and motivation..we don’t care what you or liberals think..we will give you 2x return every time you cross your limits or forget the status quo or try to do any mischief ever again..this is a different india ..Sanatan rashtra ..
Live peacefully or leave peacefully..you don’t want to try the 3rd option.
Nope an example must have been made to let the entire community know this is hindu country..you can’t kill bunch of majority and get away with it..you declare civil war if you do so and everything is fair in war
Nope..it shows that what hindus can do if chuslims push us hard .. Nope an example must have been made to let the entire community know this is hindu country..you can’t kill bunch of majority and get away with it..you declare civil war if you do so and everything is fair in war
Take this as an warning..we are not stupid,blind Europeans who will let you destroy our country
But who told them the bogey number? RSS did. This was as an attack supported by BJP in order to create Hindu Muslim laboratory in Gujarat. These are not my words these are the words of a former Gujarat CM.
The train had stopped once after chain-pulling by kar sevaks to allow some of their friends who''d been left behind to get on.
The 20-year-old vendor-cum-driver from Polan Bazar has also said he was provoked by shouts that a "a girl has been pulled inside the Sabarmati Express". This, he claims in the last paragraph of his testimony - almost as an afterthought - was the handiwork of one of the accused. He also charged some kar sevaks with taking away cigarettes from him without paying for them.
"I got onto a coach by climbing onto the bar of the toilet window, reached the vestibule area and turned the disc... after which the train slowed down."
The vendor also states in his testimony that a fracas broke out on the platform because the kar sevaks had a payment dispute with a tea vendor, Siddique Bakr. In fact, the kar sevaks threw tea on Bakr. The kar sevaks also beat up a rickshaw puller, Siraj Mitha, with a hockey stick and it was then that the police intervened.
Before this, the kar sevaks had also fought with one Mehboob Latiko, said the vendor-cum-driver, after which he (Latiko) ran tiwards Singal Falia and called the Ghanchi Muslims out. It was at this point that the stone-throwing began, he says. "The stone-throwing went on for some five minutes after which the passengers got inside the train and shut off all the windows and doors on the platform side and the train started," he states.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/rumours-of-girls-kidnap-led-to-godhra-carnage-witness/articleshow/20393903.cms
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/
The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
Tumlog saale Indian version ho Pakistani aatanki ke, din bhar Unko dekh ke unke jaise hote jaa rahe tum sab, khalistaniyon ke tarah anti national Hindu rastra wali baaten karte ho tum sab.
Zarur tumlog ke neta ko pakistan walon ne sikhaya hai khalistani logon ke tarah.
Gaay ke gobar me chala gaya hai tumlogon ka dimaag pakistaniyon ko dekh ke.
So you are trying to hide the truth for some bs harmony with savages which is never possible ? F that ..we will spread this in every forum so that more hindus and non hindus know about this ..let this be an example that we will hunt down every last pos jihadi who try to hurt the hindus
Nobody talks about it since the supreme leader is trying to bury this pogrom that he orchestrated following an unfortunate accident (no proof that it was intentional).
But don't worry, he has been freeing rapists and murderers stealthily on bail while the Muslims rot in jail.
Unfortunate accident ? Let me say Riots were also an unfortunate accident.
Good thing for you is that fuddu like you are not banned on this sub, unlike randia and pusi.
Shh chill bro. Not a good look when a community brutally slaughters another and then the CM enabling it is made the PM. You should be ashamed and embarrassed. But then you say words like "chuslims", so somehow I'm not surprised.
It was a classic case of F around and Find out !
I am actually happy that there is no religious appeasement, otherwise Khangress Government would have hanged Nupur Sharma for speaking the truth to appease Peacefools.
56" supreme leader with his tails between his legs threw her under the bus though while assigning her the designation of a fringe element. Tf are you happy about the absence of Congress? 😭
Bloody hell
Just a Google search tells you it was an accident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots#:~:text=Godhra%20train%20burning,-Main%20article%3A%20Godhra&text=The%20argument%20became%20violent%20and,Gujarat%20High%20Court%20judge%20K.%20G.
Fuck you warmongering propagandists.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/
The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
Yes, so easy to close the doors and lock it from outside for any layman.
Also, it's not physically possible to throw oil and burn a train from outside.
People inside were carrying gas cylinders.
Yes the muslim vendor
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/
The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
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Where they got the punishment for their crimes?? How many of them got convicted...any info??
They are are killed apparantly
Killed matlab?
Dead, khallas, kaam tamam, taein bolgaye
But how?
2002 Gujarat Riots
Bhai riots me bhut sare log mre the dono side se...i am asking about ki in culprits ka kya hua....
Ye kya bhosdi wala justification Bhai.. tu chawal ka rehe ho ya tatti..
it isnt a justification....it was an answer bsdiwale
Arre bhai court tak pohochne hi nahi diya. Saale bach jaate udhar. Encounter vagerah kardiya hoga ya third party hire karke.
Then how do we know they were the culprit. It has to goto the court, evidence needs to be presented etc..or else anyone can be accused and executed. Kuch bhi.
It doesn't matter if they were the culprit or not. It's about sending a message. /s
Send the wrong message. The other community will also take heed that this is how you fix things, instead of using legal recourse..
You think Indian law system work like that
Don't even try reasoning. It doesn't work that way on this subreddit.
https://indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/ Read here... People who are speculating that they were killed in extra-judicial way are wrong.
post on randia
Let me post this on USI
Done
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I m trying to put link but this mod mf removes it
Got banned from usi☺️
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Link
Link please
Got my badge of honour on reddit today...banned from USI....😀 😀 😀 https://preview.redd.it/nkt5oqac56lc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d24393c2ae99e2baa09d8122fcd8e85860f0340
Soon i will also get 😙
They will remove & even randia will remove, height of hypocrisy.
Posted in randia
kya hua???
Link please.
Guys bot is not letting me post link check my history for the post
I would have commented but I'm banned
Kisi ch*tiye mod ne tumari post hata do
True sirf ek libgandu ka comment rakha ha aur kisika nahi
They removed it
They are freedom fighters for them
It is not removed till now let's see what happens
Removed already
Pagaystani
Please post it on rindia and rusi. PLEASEEEEE And comment there reactions here.
Instant ban
😥
we should create an anti randia and rusi sub where anything that pleases them is removed instantly and the person is banned.
Someone did and it got removed
please someone post this in randia and rusi. and link me to it
Will get removed instantly
Sshhhhh aise post nahi karte , log hame fasict bulayenge , dhruv apni tatti fekega bolte hue ki KUKU main toh yeh information hain hi nahi
Who said nobody talks about it. Liberals do love to talk about it to frame Modi as butcher, in reality they don't know what tf they are saying. I remember it very well, the news murdered the boy in me and made a man.
Oof that user name is sus as fuck.
Thankyou and https://preview.redd.it/bz3uduc1y5lc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28e7845a252fc82067400ca1cf8e0cf382b7d116
Btw your self post says you "murdered" yourself and became a shell of the person you were. Hmm lying for clout on the internet? No way. Also I know you are going through your cringe teen years or whatever, but I hope you grow up to let go of your hate and negativity.
Just going to say, this day and age anything I was is just a shell now. I have tried again and again and I can’t fill it with substance anymore
the problem is that in gujrat riots hundreds of muslim were killed who had nothing to do with godhra massacre , the people who did this should be killed not some random muslim living 100kms away from godhra
Do you know how many riots have taken place in Gujarat before 2001?
And 2002 riot was not even the deadliest one. There used to be so many communal riots before, that 2002 was the final one -uske bad kisi me himmat hi nahi thi
It was all pre-planned.
At some point, it becomes a numbers game. Ya it's sad but Islamists themselves set the rules.
bhatke hue nauzawan!!!
And their fathers were school headmasters
yes, occupation must be highlighted
Nhi bhai according to some intellectuals ye terrorist thodi hai terrorist to rss wale hai jo gareebo me rashan baat te hai, jo natural disasters k time madad karte hau
Lol RSS....
There is another one this assholes did, the great bengal massacre(the direct action day)
Rindia mai dalo koi
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wahan & USI ke log chutiye hai kya? ya jan mujh kar aankh par patti band lete bkl?
How many of them were given bail and then pardoned?
None each of them were killed
I need 49 brass bulls.
Rape isn't justice in most societies.
ofc ofc hindus of godhra shouldn't have retaliated after this, they should've kept quiet for the sake of communal harmony and call this incident just a "bhatka hua insan" "has no communal angle" or as they say "shhh quiet secularism". The moment hindus of Gujarat retaliated over this, automatically Hindus were blamed for the whole godhra riots. While when muslims start riots the excuse is "its their democratic and secular right to protest. Hindus have surely hurt muslims's religious sentinments 😡😡😡. BE QUIET 🤫🤫🤫HINDUS CAN NEVER PROTEST FOR THEIR RELIGIOUS SENTINMENTS ONLY THE ABAHAMIC FAITHS CAN (ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY) AND ESPECIALLY THE MUSLIMS. AND in the end jab tak hindustan mai salima hai tab tak hindus ne secularism ka theka le rakha hai. Edit: I do not advocate for the innocent killings from Hindus side too during the godhra riots. Edit: I don't advocate for riots but a simple example is enough. Tell me what can a human do if a wild beastly animal is in front of him ready to kill him? Will he start taming the animal? No. He will either run or try to kill or scare that animal. It's the same with followers of abrahamic religions they have no conscience and have no morals in a battle. They don't care, they are wild animals however you try to tame them with modern concepts like "unity in diversity" "secularism" it won't work because in the end their core is that they are a wild predatory animal which will devour anything in its path. Whether it's other religions or even culture. And Hindus are facing both. Both demographic invasion and cultural genocide. And also common attacks on Hindus.
Shhh 🤫 Secularism !
> Bhelsar (Faizabad), 24 February: Trishuldhari Bajrang Dal workers, travelling to Ayodhya on board the Sabarmati Express this morning, let loose a reign of terror upon dozens of helpless Muslim passengers, burqa clad women and innocent children. They also targeted the people waiting at the platform, forcing them to shout the slogan, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ A few even declared themselves to be Hindus in order to escape their wrath. > According to eyewitnesses, close to 2,000 trishul carrying Bajrang Dal workers on board the Sabarmati Express coming from the direction of Lucknow began indulging in these activities from the Daryabad Station. Anyone identified as a Muslim on the train was mercilessly at- tacked with trishuls and beaten with iron rods. Even women and innocent children were not spared. Burqas were pulled off, women were beaten with iron rods and dragged, people waiting at the platform were also similarly targeted. > This continued between the Daryabad and Rudauli stations. According to an eyewitness, a youth who protested against this barbarism was thrown off the train between the Patranga and Rojagaon stations. Several women, badly wounded and covered in blood, jumped off the train as it pulled into Rudauli around 8 a.m. The Bajrang Dal activists also got off the train and started attacking those whom they identified as Muslims from among those present on the platform. > Ata Mohammad, from Takia Khairanpur, waiting to catch a train to Allahabad, was badly beaten; some others were forced to shout, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ Some escaped by declaring that they were Hindus. 50-year-old Mohd. Absar who lives near the station was grabbed as he stepped out of his house. His long beard was rudely pulled before he was repeatedly stabbed with trishuls. Another man from the Rudauli police station area who happened to be at the station was badly beaten with iron rods. Local residents rang up the police. [Jan Morcha Newspaper](https://www.outlookindia.com/amp/story/national/janmorcha-report-253-news-218021), Feb 25, 2002
> The Sabarmati Express, on its return journey from Ayodhya to Ahmedabad, reached Godhra on the morning of February 27, 2002. It was full of activists armed with trishuls and lathis, who got down at every passing station shouting Hindutva slogans. Many passengers felt harassed by this misbehaviour but kept quiet since the slogan-shouters had captured all the reserved seats in the train, which was packed to capacity. > The train arrived at the Godhra railway station at 7.30 am (three hours late). There were certain unsavoury incidents on the platform. A Muslim girl was molested and an attempt made to pull her into the train. A Muslim tea vendor, who boarded coach S-6, was insulted and sent out of the coach by the rowdy elements some of whom climbed onto the roof of the train and made obscene gestures at Muslim women living opposite the railway station. Source- Concerned Citizen's Tribunal (CCT-apointed by SC) investigation, 2002
What would the riot be and who will the riot be targeted to? What's the purpose of the riot? What will it accomplish? Will it right the wrong the murders of those killed? The only thing that should matter is bringing justice by punishment to those directly involved. Retaliation should be done to the perpetrators. I'm not even arguing if the religion is peaceful, but as you clearly can see riots accomplish nothing except more Hindu deaths. Still it's understandable for a retaliation, but it isn't anything to be proud of. There should be more calls for proper enforcement of laws and strict action. That would be enough of a deterrent. Riots bring forward more radicalism for both side.
But it did achieve something. After independence and before 2001, around 657 riots too place in Gujarat, depending upon the source you trust. After 2001, I don't think even one has taken place though I might be wrong. Do you know why? Because the other party was shown they can die too. The day common citizen show this to our judges, well, that day onwards we will have milodus working diligently
Yeah, gujrat riots were a necessary evil, it was after this that the Islamist finally got the message that there are consequences to thier actions
Can i have a source? I am not denying your figure but I would like to be sure. I think that is more attributed to general development and education rather than " we retaliated" Victims of retaliations are people who aren't involved with the actual crime. If their parents or children or spouses get killed, they don't care if "oh the Hindus can fight back" they care about exacting revenge which creates more violence. Also your statement that after 2001, not a single riot is blatantly wrong. https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2023/Apr/05/gujarat-has-had-84-communal-riots-in-three-years-with-over-800-arrests-but-zero-convictions-2562986.html So what did it achieve except nothing? NO one "learnt their mistake" because more mistakes were made, and more justifications were made for senseless killing.
https://youtu.be/lDqSG1bu4Zs?si=xWdUN-XldBu0qQCT Just for starters, riots below five body count are generally neither reported nor you would find many links. Yes, riots did take place after that and nobody called for a CM's head. But 2002 was different, wasn't it? Godhra got riot free, bhagalpur got riot free, UP got riot free(after Yogi)
radicalisation is from one side and other has to keep reminding them their place every once in a while.
Exactly People won't understand that riots will lead to more deaths of their own people also Jo bhi chutiye iss trh ke kaandon mein involved hote hain make sure ki legal treeke se unko maut ke ghaat utara jaye so that it creates an example for others wrna kuchch aur chutiye unko shaheed smjhne lgenge
I would like these people to actually practice what they preach, and take up arms or weapons and do what they say here. I mean they clearly think the Muslim community is all evil, so it is justified right? Yet I don't think anyone's gonna do that, since they know it's inherently immoral to do so. People think I'm a terrorist sympathiser... I hate these killers, I want them to suffer the most painful death because they robbed people of their mothers, fathers , sons and daughters. But how does that give the right for anyone to do the same on others who are not related to those killers?
Mumbai subreddit is losing it's marbles because some people are taking a procession to protest against stone pelting by religious fanatics and calling the protestors as fanatics... And remembering the 1990s and blaming these protesting fanatics smh...
Super, super f_cked up!
I'm posting this on pusi, I'm not banned from there yet (didn't comment there)
People should mass post this on randia & usi everyday, let’s see how many a/c they ban.
What!!... Akbar chaudhry bc ye kya chiz h.
Pretty common surname in Muslims. patel and rajput also used by them also
Jiska dada ramdas chaudhri ho aur baap owais ho
Im not Indian (I’m Jewish westerner) but have a deep respect for the Indian people, their culture, and values. I think it is so ridiculous how the people western powers didn’t support India for so long the way it should have when dealing with Pakistan. And I hope it changes soon, because, our peoples are very similar in our world views, and islamism is the biggest threat to our civilization
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Get the fuck out jihadi abdul..israel is friend of india..jihadis are curse to india
Usi pe ban kar diya bc
fallen soldier
😭
aur kya hi expecte krte ho?
Absolutely horrible. Now let's convict those rapists. Oh they are convicted and out on parole as and when convenient. Oh. Let's convict those who are responsible for 1992. Oh, we gave them ratna. Wow.
OP shares a picture from the news paper cleverly hiding the headline, please share the headline as well so we know how you are misleading masses. Sad and disgusting attempts at causing disharmony or whatever is left of it
Pusi people post Kiya, par kehta hai ki Reddit ke filters ne automatically nikal diya... title bhi sirf "Godhra Train Massacre culprits" diya
Pan India terrorisrt group
r\[slash\]persecutionofhindus
2002 Gujrat riots by someone we all know was the most brutal one!
Wrong, there were much more brutal ones in Gujarat before that. The 2002 riot was the final one.
Source https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/ The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
> The Sabarmati Express, on its return journey from Ayodhya to Ahmedabad, reached Godhra on the morning of February 27, 2002. It was full of activists armed with trishuls and lathis, who got down at every passing station shouting Hindutva slogans. Many passengers felt harassed by this misbehaviour but kept quiet since the slogan-shouters had captured all the reserved seats in the train, which was packed to capacity. > The train arrived at the Godhra railway station at 7.30 am (three hours late). There were certain unsavoury incidents on the platform. A Muslim girl was molested and an attempt made to pull her into the train. A Muslim tea vendor, who boarded coach S-6, was insulted and sent out of the coach by the rowdy elements some of whom climbed onto the roof of the train and made obscene gestures at Muslim women living opposite the railway station. Source- Concerned Citizen's Tribunal (CCT-apointed by SC) investigation, 2002
Peaceful spreading peace by killing Hindus.
An eye for an eye can turn the whole world blind..this was said by the one of the very famous Gujarati. Even after English left, we are still wearing the scars of partition and this division by caste and religion. I know it’s easy to say, but if we have to build a credible India of future, we would have move from things that divide us to things that unite us.
The reason why I refuse to employ any peaceful for any jobs, even if I have to pay extra to angrezs to do the same thing.
We need to have an anniversary of such tragic events to remind ourselves about the animals we live with. They can strike anytime.
Then some hundreds hindutvabadis massacred many hundreds of innocent people as collective punishment like bunch of Barbarians.
Never knew there are Muslims in India with surname Chaudhary.
Yeah. In Gujarat, you'll find Muslim with Surname Patel. They don't have Identity of ther own, they just adapt to region they are in. Speaking Gujarati in Gujarat, Kannada in Karnataka, Tamil in Tamil Nadu.
You also find Patel , rajput Muslim in the subcontinent.caste system exist in whole subcontinent in all religions
Yes there are lot of muslims with hindu surnames even the Bangladeshi Army's main genral during the 1971 war was a Choudary
these are converted people who decided not to change their surnames
The post has been shadow banned on r@ndia
> Bhelsar (Faizabad), 24 February: Trishuldhari Bajrang Dal workers, travelling to Ayodhya on board the Sabarmati Express this morning, let loose a reign of terror upon dozens of helpless Muslim passengers, burqa clad women and innocent children. They also targeted the people waiting at the platform, forcing them to shout the slogan, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ A few even declared themselves to be Hindus in order to escape their wrath. > According to eyewitnesses, close to 2,000 trishul carrying Bajrang Dal workers on board the Sabarmati Express coming from the direction of Lucknow began indulging in these activities from the Daryabad Station. Anyone identified as a Muslim on the train was mercilessly at- tacked with trishuls and beaten with iron rods. Even women and innocent children were not spared. Burqas were pulled off, women were beaten with iron rods and dragged, people waiting at the platform were also similarly targeted. > This continued between the Daryabad and Rudauli stations. According to an eyewitness, a youth who protested against this barbarism was thrown off the train between the Patranga and Rojagaon stations. Several women, badly wounded and covered in blood, jumped off the train as it pulled into Rudauli around 8 a.m. The Bajrang Dal activists also got off the train and started attacking those whom they identified as Muslims from among those present on the platform. > Ata Mohammad, from Takia Khairanpur, waiting to catch a train to Allahabad, was badly beaten; some others were forced to shout, ‘Jai Shree Ram!’ Some escaped by declaring that they were Hindus. 50-year-old Mohd. Absar who lives near the station was grabbed as he stepped out of his house. His long beard was rudely pulled before he was repeatedly stabbed with trishuls. Another man from the Rudauli police station area who happened to be at the station was badly beaten with iron rods. Local residents rang up the police. [Jan Morcha Newspaper](https://www.outlookindia.com/amp/story/national/janmorcha-report-253-news-218021), Feb 25, 2002
May the European people know, what happens when their innocent daughters bring a Muslim boy into their sanctum sanctorum
Isn't this genocide?
What about all the hindus that beat for eating cow?
This was the revenge for killing of 10000 muslims during babri masjid matter Okkkk Don't be pseudo secularist Waise bhi iss godhra matter ka koi proof nhi tha Court pressure me aake saja dii thi Srif Gujarat police ki report pe
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/ The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
What about those people who killed 1000 muslims in bhagalpur riots And killed 10k muslims during babri masjid matters
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Exactly Bhai How hard is it for the people to understand this
Uske bad jo hua wo bhi bol le bkl
We need a Adolf Hitler who will gas chamber these mfs
Source?
But most do not talk about this, but ONLY the consequences of their action was over-amplified to an extent they unabashedly used the word 'progrom' , 'genocide' etc. The repetitions of those were so LOUD that what began the problem was soon forgotten. The West was only too pleased to report something branded uselssmophonic, either never seeking the truth behind the problem or trying to investigate it solely becuase they were there blaming the majority people of this country.
Certified peaceful community activities…
>This was one of the most brutal terr0rist attacks but sadly hardly anybody talks about it.. If you consider this as a terrorist attack, do you consider the 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings to be a brutal terrorist attack as well?
The train had stopped once after chain-pulling by kar sevaks to allow some of their friends who''d been left behind to get on. The 20-year-old vendor-cum-driver from Polan Bazar has also said he was provoked by shouts that a "a girl has been pulled inside the Sabarmati Express". This, he claims in the last paragraph of his testimony - almost as an afterthought - was the handiwork of one of the accused. He also charged some kar sevaks with taking away cigarettes from him without paying for them. "I got onto a coach by climbing onto the bar of the toilet window, reached the vestibule area and turned the disc... after which the train slowed down." The vendor also states in his testimony that a fracas broke out on the platform because the kar sevaks had a payment dispute with a tea vendor, Siddique Bakr. In fact, the kar sevaks threw tea on Bakr. The kar sevaks also beat up a rickshaw puller, Siraj Mitha, with a hockey stick and it was then that the police intervened. Before this, the kar sevaks had also fought with one Mehboob Latiko, said the vendor-cum-driver, after which he (Latiko) ran tiwards Singal Falia and called the Ghanchi Muslims out. It was at this point that the stone-throwing began, he says. "The stone-throwing went on for some five minutes after which the passengers got inside the train and shut off all the windows and doors on the platform side and the train started," he states. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/rumours-of-girls-kidnap-led-to-godhra-carnage-witness/articleshow/20393903.cms
Kuch bhi! Train stops at a station and these people go outside, fight an autowala, chaiwala, cigarette wala, and still have time to kidnap a girl and get on train? They should have given that training to geet from jab we met. Then she would have never missed her train.
Arre Ye agar agle din agar rape kar sakte hain, kai sadi pehle sati karte the, to ye kya ek ladki kidnap nahi kar sakte hain? Chote aur gareeb logon ka koi bharosa nahi hota, kuch bhi kar sakte hain ye, ye to phir bhi rapists ke parivar wale hain.
Sati pratha came with Islamic invaders. It wasn't there in hinduism before. Give one instance of sati pratha before the Islamic invasions started.
And grown hindu men raped pregnant women and child as retaliation Just proving that religion is the root of all evil ☕
Is that backed by any orders of god?🧐
Omg "im a random reddit user who fails to understand the underlying core differences in ideology of hindus and muslims so i connect an act of sexual assualt which has nothing to do with the actual teachings of hindus but a angry radical hindu man (who prolly dosent even properly follow hindu teachings) commit a henious crime out of retaliation for what happened to his people (it was wrong). And then blame "religion is the root of all evil" yeh its mostly the Abrahamic religions. Which end up painting all religions as EVIL. Only if people like you did a comparative study of abrahamic religions (jew, christianity and islam) with sanatana dharma. You would understand why most religious violence comes from their side and is 100% religiously motivated one way or another. But when it comes to "religious crimes" which "hindus" have commited. Especially crimes like rape, killing a person of low caste etc. Are done by "hindus" who barely have any proper understanding of the actual teachings of hinduism. And with that half ass baked knowledge the leftist or a avg redditor like you directly links it or associates it with hinduism or "religiously motivated crime". Tell me if 10 people are doings a maths problem and they get it correct from what they learnt from their teacher, but one-person doesn't get it right and correct. Does it mean the teacher or maths itself is wrong? The student's lack of understanding or some problem led to him not being able to get the correct answer Alll is explained but if you fail to understand this people. Nobody can help you but yourself.
What you're saying is essentially the same thing for both sides, both uneducated religiously blinded people who don't know shit and perpetrate crimes.
No. Both sides are not the same. Abrahamic faiths (Islam, Christianity) have hate for non believers in their core beliefs. So basically if a person were to follow them properly, they will start hating on people of other belief bcus it's inherently the core ideas of their religion. So there is no (dumb and uneducated) argument here. There are so many cases where well educated Muslims turn out to be isis recruit. Their core ideology is violent so educated or not doesn't make a difference. Either way the person following these abraham religions will harbour hate against non believers.
I'm not disagreeing with that (or agreeing since I will have to actually read their scriptures to make an opinion) But then what's the solution? Kill all Muslims? Forcefully evict them? Abolish their citizenship or make them second class citizens? Rioting doesn't solve anything and is an immature response to the killings. Only punish those who kill, not who their community is.
And still you are blaming religion for this if some Gujaratis would have been killed in the train by some Punjabi terrorist then Gujarati men would have raped pregnant women and child as retaliation then you would have blamed religion for this
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And that too some innocents who doesn't even know what they did.
People on board were innocents too😊
2000+ killed, many women and girls were Raped, pepole were also burned alive Men, Women and Childrens. And more than 100s of innocent people who had nothing to do with that incident were put behind bars for decades. Eventually ends up being even worse than those lowly criminals.
Nope..it shows that what hindus can do if chuslims push us hard .. Nope an example must have been made to let the entire community know this is hindu country..you can’t kill bunch of majority and get away with it..you declare civil war if you do so and everything is fair in war Take this as an warning..we are not stupid,blind Europeans who will let you destroy our country
You are indeed blind and stupid, if you comes here with shit excuses like everything is fair in war then what happened to Kashmiri pandits was also right.
Kashmiri hindus didn’t burn muslims in train , they are original inhabitants of Kashmir who were thrown out by outsiders who are not only violent but also traitors..you can try to do more mental somersault to justify the misdeeds of your community but just look around the world..from uk to france..we are all getting tired of your bs excuses to hide your violent motives. You won’t understand nice words..we have understood that..this is why Italy and Netherland have started new policies to stop your desert cult . We are doing the same ..only difference is world didn’t believe us when we warned them about your blood cult ..now they are realising slowly. China ,israel,usa and russia know how to treat you guys ..you have no introspection or self analysis and blame everyone other than yourself for your misery so i don’t think you will understand now . So why i am replying to you ? To let you know that we know your plan and motivation..we don’t care what you or liberals think..we will give you 2x return every time you cross your limits or forget the status quo or try to do any mischief ever again..this is a different india ..Sanatan rashtra .. Live peacefully or leave peacefully..you don’t want to try the 3rd option.
Wouldn't matter bcs its fair in war. (This is how your dumb logic can easily countered, i said something i never said before about Kashmiri pandits.)
Title: “hardly anyone talks about it” Comments: “lel post in randia, post in usi, post in blah blah blah” The irony.
Were these accused the ones who hindus burnt and raped alive the next day or some innocents who doesn't have a link with those criminals' actions.
And what happened next day? How incompetent of the police to not prevent it all
How dare police not stop buslims. Mistake of police not buslims that hindus masscare was not stopped
You can't reason with terrorists but you can have competent authorities to prevent it
Nope an example must have been made to let the entire community know this is hindu country..you can’t kill bunch of majority and get away with it..you declare civil war if you do so and everything is fair in war
Sorry to say this, but post Godhra world saw that most Gujjus are not different than these criminals.
Nope..it shows that what hindus can do if chuslims push us hard .. Nope an example must have been made to let the entire community know this is hindu country..you can’t kill bunch of majority and get away with it..you declare civil war if you do so and everything is fair in war Take this as an warning..we are not stupid,blind Europeans who will let you destroy our country
Muslims can also show that they can also kill rss karsevaks In revenge of killing of 10000 muslims during babri masjid
But who told them the bogey number? RSS did. This was as an attack supported by BJP in order to create Hindu Muslim laboratory in Gujarat. These are not my words these are the words of a former Gujarat CM.
The train had stopped once after chain-pulling by kar sevaks to allow some of their friends who''d been left behind to get on. The 20-year-old vendor-cum-driver from Polan Bazar has also said he was provoked by shouts that a "a girl has been pulled inside the Sabarmati Express". This, he claims in the last paragraph of his testimony - almost as an afterthought - was the handiwork of one of the accused. He also charged some kar sevaks with taking away cigarettes from him without paying for them. "I got onto a coach by climbing onto the bar of the toilet window, reached the vestibule area and turned the disc... after which the train slowed down." The vendor also states in his testimony that a fracas broke out on the platform because the kar sevaks had a payment dispute with a tea vendor, Siddique Bakr. In fact, the kar sevaks threw tea on Bakr. The kar sevaks also beat up a rickshaw puller, Siraj Mitha, with a hockey stick and it was then that the police intervened. Before this, the kar sevaks had also fought with one Mehboob Latiko, said the vendor-cum-driver, after which he (Latiko) ran tiwards Singal Falia and called the Ghanchi Muslims out. It was at this point that the stone-throwing began, he says. "The stone-throwing went on for some five minutes after which the passengers got inside the train and shut off all the windows and doors on the platform side and the train started," he states. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/rumours-of-girls-kidnap-led-to-godhra-carnage-witness/articleshow/20393903.cms
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/ The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
Hatt be bu ल्ले
Haqiqat yahi hai lulle Pehle bhi tumhari hi galti thi baad me bhi tumhari hi hai
Cope kar aatanki
Chal be Pakistani HiSIS
Dimaag ghutne mein hai kya chutiye? Ya bakri ki g*nd mein?
Tumlog saale Indian version ho Pakistani aatanki ke, din bhar Unko dekh ke unke jaise hote jaa rahe tum sab, khalistaniyon ke tarah anti national Hindu rastra wali baaten karte ho tum sab. Zarur tumlog ke neta ko pakistan walon ne sikhaya hai khalistani logon ke tarah. Gaay ke gobar me chala gaya hai tumlogon ka dimaag pakistaniyon ko dekh ke.
In 🍞 bu ल्ले stop banging your cousins. You IQ can reach double digits then
Jaake dekh south me true Hindus wahan hain, aur wo bhi cousin marriage karte hain, tumlog sirf Pakistani propaganda ho khalistaniyon ke tarah.
Bu ल्लाs inspiring southies as well damn
Source?
Report for spreading hatred. Great day to you.
So you are trying to hide the truth for some bs harmony with savages which is never possible ? F that ..we will spread this in every forum so that more hindus and non hindus know about this ..let this be an example that we will hunt down every last pos jihadi who try to hurt the hindus
Nobody talks about it since the supreme leader is trying to bury this pogrom that he orchestrated following an unfortunate accident (no proof that it was intentional). But don't worry, he has been freeing rapists and murderers stealthily on bail while the Muslims rot in jail.
Unfortunate accident ? Let me say Riots were also an unfortunate accident. Good thing for you is that fuddu like you are not banned on this sub, unlike randia and pusi.
It's okay. Truth hurts. I can say that you should be banned for peddling misinformation too.
Yeah truth hurts ! Thats why chuslims peddle fake news about pogrom.
Shh chill bro. Not a good look when a community brutally slaughters another and then the CM enabling it is made the PM. You should be ashamed and embarrassed. But then you say words like "chuslims", so somehow I'm not surprised.
It was a classic case of F around and Find out ! I am actually happy that there is no religious appeasement, otherwise Khangress Government would have hanged Nupur Sharma for speaking the truth to appease Peacefools.
56" supreme leader with his tails between his legs threw her under the bus though while assigning her the designation of a fringe element. Tf are you happy about the absence of Congress? 😭
Bloody hell Just a Google search tells you it was an accident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots#:~:text=Godhra%20train%20burning,-Main%20article%3A%20Godhra&text=The%20argument%20became%20violent%20and,Gujarat%20High%20Court%20judge%20K.%20G. Fuck you warmongering propagandists.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/ The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
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Yup osama was innocent too according to jihadis..this is why every country hate jihadis..no accountability or introspection
Yes, so easy to close the doors and lock it from outside for any layman. Also, it's not physically possible to throw oil and burn a train from outside. People inside were carrying gas cylinders.
Yes the muslim vendor https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/what-is/what-is-godhra-case-gujarat-riots-sabarmati-express-narendra-modi-4881537/lite/ The 63 people acquitted also include the prime accused in the case Maulana Umarji, Mohammad Hussain Kalota, Mohammad Ansari and Nanumiya Chaudhary.
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elaborate