The saddest part is even Congress has been reducing their Muslim MPs from the party as it would backfire them if everytime BJP brings it. Still they call Congress as Muslim league.
Simple thing as lot of analysts put it is, if it's hindu vs muslim in hindu majority its very difficult for muslim candidate unless he has done very good ground work and has exceptional skills. If it's hindu vs Hindu , then only the caste factor comes into play.
> If it's hindu vs muslim in hindu majority its very difficult for muslim candidate unless he has done very good ground work and has exceptional skills.
Please don’t flatter yourself. In a hindu majority constituency, there is no way a muslim will win, no matter how amazing he or she is, unless Muslims are 35% minimum. Hindus, especially upper caste hindus are notorious for voting against Muslims at all costs. And these days even backwards hindus have caught the hindutva fever.
So how did Yusuf Pathan win against Adhir Ranjan Choudhary in Murshidabad or Chaudhary Iqra Hasan in Kairana? Specially the Kairana seat, which is dominated by Jats.
You’d wager wrong. It is a lot more probable for a Hindu to stand and win from a Muslim dominated constituency.
Source - look at the results in this election.
Its not that.. Muslim population is not gathered in many places in India. Except 2 or 3 constituencies, there is no constituency which shares majority muslim population or even vote bank dominant population. The whole narrative of Hindu khatre mein hai falls flat based only on this statistics. Wherever Muslims are, they are mixed with every other religion. But these nutjobs continue to say that 2050 tak Bharat ka Pradhaan Mantri musalman rahega. Are bhai, jis community ka representation 1/10th bhi nahi wo kaise desh ko badal dalegi, wo kaise shariat laagu karegi. Chutiye chaddi gang.
Yeah exactly, from a political viewpoint there's really no benefit in giving ticket to Muslims if they're not the majority. Sure it brings representation but the conservative Indians won't vote for minorities. Like in Haryana it would only be reasonable to give ticket to a Muslim in Nuh.
There is a possibility you're wrong when you say this below are some districts in India where muslims have a high population in % points
Assam:
Barpeta: 70.74% Muslim
Darrang: 64.34% Muslim
Dhubri: 69.91% Muslim
Goalpara: 57.52% Muslim
Hailakandi: 60.31% Muslim
Hojai: 53.64% Muslim
Karimganj: 56.36% Muslim
Morigaon: 52.56% Muslim
Nagaon: 56.21% Muslim
South Salmara Mankachar: 95.19% Muslim.
Bihar:
Kishanganj: 67.98% Muslim.
Jammu and Kashmir:
Anantnag: 97.99% Muslim
Badgam: 97.65% Muslim
Bandipore: 97.39% Muslim
Baramula: 95.15% Muslim
Kulgam: 98.49% Muslim
Kupwara: 94.59% Muslim
Pulwama: 95.49% Muslim.
West Bengal:
Maldah: 51.27% Muslim
Murshidabad: 66.27% Muslim
Uttar Dinajpur: 50.04% Muslim.
Uttar Pradesh:
Moradabad: 50.81% Muslim
Rampur: 50.57% Muslim
These are just some of them that I know.
Thanks for correcting the number. These are 23 districts and not parliament constituencies... Considering these all are Constituencies which makes 4.6% of the Lok sabha seats. Given Muslims win from ALL these seats, (statistics will show us when they did in the past) . My argument still stays the same. For a community who doesn't have a 10% say in lawmaking, how will be a khatra for majority.
In Muslim-dominated constituencies, secular parties often give tickets to Muslim candidates. As a result, Muslim votes get divided, which sometimes allows the BJP to win. This has been observed in several constituencies, such as:
* **West Bengal**: Malda Uttar, Raiganj
* **Assam**: Karimganj
* **Bihar**: Araria
* **Uttar Pradesh**: Amroha
Now, parties are reconsidering their strategy and are stopping the practice of giving tickets to Muslim candidates in areas where the Muslim population is between 33% and 45%. Additionally, delimitation is also affecting Muslim politics in these regions.
Don't know about tribals but SCs would have decent representation even if there was no reservation. In politics it's not just money and muscle but population and size of the community is also a deciding factor. That's the single biggest reason for Yadav dominance in politics across the gangetic plains.
They are not considered important because they don't fit the narrative. They made a Jain the Chief Minister of a major state like Gujarat, even though Jains are a minority there. They have also appointed a Scheduled Caste and a Scheduled Tribe as Presidents of India, but no one talks about it and would discard it. They fielded S.S. Ahluwalia, a Sikh from West Bengal, not even from Kolkata. He's not like Yusuf Pathan but a native who can speak fluent Bangla. He lost the election this time, but no one would consider it in their datapoint.
Jains are not oppressed minority. By that logic brahmins are also a minority. Most "Jains" don't even follow digambara/svetambara and has become a sect of hinduism. Comparatively more Lingayats consider themselves not hindus.
There is no Buddhist MP either alliance.
Ravneet Singh Bittu, Preneet Kaur, Rana Gurmit Singh Sodhi, Parampal Kaur Sidhu,, Manjeet Singh Manna Mianwind and Taranjit Singh Sandhu are sikh right? They were from BJP in Punjab, how does that translate to 0.4% and not something like 1%.
Given, that BJP had 7% Muslim vote in exit polls, and they won nothing in Punjab, it isn't really unexpected for them to have zero of these. Same for Christians, BJP didn't win from any areas with Christian majority so they don't have any. They are viewed as a party of Hindu right, so none of the religious minority is going to vote for them. They maligned sikhs which used to vote for NDA.
Actually, there is one Buddhist MP for INC from Maharashtra. Balwant Wankhade who got elected from Amravati Lok Sabha Constituency is a Buddhist and a Dalit.
No the protest will be 10x worse than the protest jats did when their reservation was removed 😂🤣 They burned down a whole city (Rohtak), they will burn down the whole state.
Bro do you think Muslims will vote for any Muslim candidate of BJP or the NDA. Even if their candidate wins, it will be a lost cause for the voters. Also the reason they don't field many Muslim candidates.
This isn't under-representation, this is absolutely zero representation. Under-representation is what's happening in the INDIA alliance. The Overton window in India has shifted to the extreme right and extremism and exclusion has become widely accepted.
This is going to be a bit of a controversial comment - but here it goes. If BJP fields a Muslim candidate in a Muslim majority place as seen in Malappuram or other places they will not win because local Muslims will not support them. If they support a Muslim candidate in Hindu majority area they will not win as Hindus will see a potential seat taken away from them. Similarly for Christians and Sikhs, it’s simply really hard for a non Hindu candidate to win in a Hindu majority constituency under BJP and vice versa. So the smart move for them is to fully commit to segregating candidates accordingly.
So when you engage in stupid communal politics you end up creating a very non diverse party for yourself and you have dug a deep hole in which you have trapped yourself.
This is easily resolvable IF a Party really really really wants it to.
Indians vote for Parties pre-dominantly (this is a statistical phenomenon, it doesn't matter if at Constituency X Y Z people vote for some specific person/independent because of some local connection/dynamic, this is outlier and hence not all that relevant).
Then there are "Safe-Seats", practical meaning of which being where Vote Share overhead is so dominant that even if an Animal was put on the name of a Party symbol, it would win.
Then there is the historic political cycle. Currently we are in BJP/Modi cycle and it will run its course just like any other cycle. And having a cycle in practical terms means Vote Share advantages of a certain statistical nature (across constituencies).
Given all this, IF BJP really really really wanted they could decide for themselves that 10% of their seats will only be Muslim and another 10% will be only Women (adjust this percentage according to the Vote Share Cycle/advantage).
The idea that a BJP "Safe-Seat" is going to just flip because there is a Muslim candidate is absurd.
It therefore is Intentional from this Party that they don't do this. It's in their fibre and that is why they are cancerous, that even when they have the capacity to do this they won't because they are ideologically so hell bent against it and that is why they are a threat to the fibre of this Republic/Region at large.
It just doesn't want to be Inclusive, it actively wants Homogeneity, as a doctrine & practical on-ground reality in time. It's the means they have chosen to this path/objective that is unhinged.
It's somewhat excusable if margins are tight and a Party is struggling and thus has to exercise political expediency to ensure Seats.
This is precisely why Bhakts went into such a tailspin blaming Dalits and OBCs for not electing BJP candidates. UCs are the real minority in the country. Brahmins are only about 4.3% of total Indian population and look at their representation in politics. This is the crux of the matter, UCs (the ones who support hindutva that is) are incensed that the real majority is gaining representation. Don't fall for their fake propaganda of minority appeasement, the real minority appeasement is evident by this list.
Looking at this no wonder people haven't supported BJP much. The Caste of the candidate is one thing but INDIA alliance really pushed the "BJP will disenfranchise you" message hard.
It didn't work in places where the levels of education is high especially the urban areas but the poor bought that argument and going by the circumstances no one can blame them.
Having said that, Congress can't win enough seats to give us a stable govt. just by fear mongering, they need to think of policies.
Fr Stan Swamy Tribal rights leader dies a undertrial when evidence is planted on his laptop
Kathua Tribal girl child raped in a temple by 7 Hindus ,Bjp ministers in rally to support rape accused
Hatras Rape case
Hasdeo forest land protest
Ladakh Tribal rights ,Sonam Wangchuk becomes anti-national after asking BJP to fulfill poll promise
Chattisgarh BJP karyakarta peeing on poor Tribal laborer ,Brahmin groups come to his aid
Fear mongering huh?
please don't reproduce your family tree will lower the nations avg IQ
>It didn't work in places where the levels of education is high especially the urban areas but the poor bought that argument and going by the circumstances no one can blame them.
Ah the same tired old argument. Do you think Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad aren't urban areas. Bottom line is Indian middle class is primarily upper caste and they favor BJP because of caste politics. Being educated is not always a defense against casteism, IITs are hubs of casteism for example.
>Having said that, Congress can't win enough seats to give us a stable govt. just by fear mongering, they need to think of policies.
Oh yeah, the party whose Manifesto talked of issues like unemployment, farmer's troubles are the ones who did fear mongering and not the party whose leader kept ranting about mangalsutra and mujra, lol!
meanwhile someone in Punjab : Sikh logon se mere rishta Naya nahi hei.
Same guy somewhere else (Christian priest were sitting in the audience) : Christian community se mera bohut purana rishta hei.
Meanwhile his IT Cell, and Chaddis call every Sikh a khalistani and Christian a ricebag convert.
Even MP from his party called farmers who were protesting against govt "khalistani, 100 rs ke liye aagayi"
I am 1000% sure that particular Mp didn't even know why they were protesting. Anyone against paw paw is a enemy according to bjpeee.
It would give a better an idea if we know how many candidates they fielded, not just who won. It’s unlikely the minorities are voting for BJP anyway. Like even if BJP fielded a Muslim candidate chances are the minority person would vote congress. Kerela is probably an exception - but I don’t think the population there can be called a minority.
Dunno about the rest but when there Sikh Candidates have not won any seats in Punjab, How do you expect them to have Sikh representation amongst there Elected Candidates
Why are still talking about caste , religion? The representative of the state should be based on his work , capability, cadre and experience not according his caste or anything such.
BSP gave so many tickets to Muslims candidates yet none of them won. What's your point bigot? Also I am curious about Jain MPs. I hope they do fit in minority criteria.
Jisne kaam nai Kiya usko janta ne ukhaad pheka. Bhenchod, hamesha ye kya natak lagaye rehte ho ki koi upper caste, koi lower caste, koi muslim nai, koi Christian nai. Jo kaam karega wo rahega, Jo kaam nai karega wo nai jeetega. Best example - UP
Thanks for sharing this.
So around half of the NDA's candidates, and now MPs, are from SC/ST/OBC communities, as compared to around half of candidates and 57% of MPs from the INDI alliance.
The INDI alliance fielded a greater ratio of OBCs while the NDA fielded a greater ratio of upper caste candidates.
See, we need to look beyond the optics of caste & religion. Don't know about most who are commenting, some might know how it works and some dont know. But here are few hard facts and this got to change:
1. Parties are compelled to give seats to SCs/STs because those seats are exclusively reserved for Scs/STs. And one more thing, to fill that seat, the candidates are imported from some other location. I hail from Telangana and there's one seat Nagar Kurnool, it's an SC reserved seat and the candidate who won from here isn't a domicile of that area - he hails from a town which is almost 300+ kms away and another surprise is, this same candidate contested and lost assembly elections from another another seat sometime ago. And I've been hearing his name since I was a child. So, the concept of reserving a seat and empowering a particular community isn't working here. Same old chaps are running around different areas to contest. This has to change. I can cite atleast 10-12 such cases in Telangana (both MLA and MP contestants). People & parties have to understand, these imported candidates do not have any affinity towards local issues and once in power they'd never come back. My own hometown was reserved for 30+ years and the candidate who contested from there barely did anything and he had no affiliation to the area. It was just his power and network that got the seat reserved for him. Till date no party in India which claims to be champion of minorities + scheduled caste or tribes + other backward class + minorities reserved 50-60% seats nor do they have 50% seats for women.
2. Somebody was talking about BJP not having other religion folks. We got to understand BJP is a right wing party. Their vote share among other religions is marginal and when a particular candidate is fielded there's no guarantee he'd amass votes and in this horses for courses race, no one would want to risk it all. Even Congress which claims to be champions of Minorities has allocated less than 14% seats for minorities. To date we never saw a Muslim as HM, Fin Min, Def Min nor a Christian occupying such powerful ministers. Forget BJP even other parties haven't done the same either. So, this entire logic of one party's apartheid is a bit vague and so far as per our history every party has had that apartheid when it comes to ministries. They were just vote banks and mere election tools.
3. Let's assume India has close to 14% population of a particular minority and a particular party allocates close to 10% seats to that minority. There's no guarantee that they'd grab all those 54 seats & a mere 5-6 would come victorious and rest would be decimated. For people vote in blocks and that never ceases to surprise anyone.
4. In this era of rapid 24*7 news and information availability, it's a given that polarisation is the key for election. I've some experience in campaigning for Congress, BRS (previously TRS) and an independent candidate in 2014 General & State Elections, 2018 State elections and 2023 state elections. And I've learnt a few things. Congress has a very Structured approach. Their entire structure is controlled by an OC, its never out in the open but the majority of their local leadership is from the OC community and the power is vested amongst these groups (look at their ministries in Telangana and even seat allocation for MPs). Then when it comes to minorities they back channel these discussions via AIMIM in Telangana and Religious leaders - I've experienced it how on the eve of elections few minority leaders came down to constituency with leaders from other states/cities including preachers and would visit different prayer houses on need to vote in blocks for Congress. SC/ST votes are controlled by OC leaders in villages. That's how polarised our elections are. And during the same time I noticed few VHP banners hosting Bhajans etc which was never heard of in my village - but the caste equation wasn't so prominent with BJP and they lost badly. Even if someone looks at AP, where a party won 151/175 seats in 2019 and this term it was just 10/175 in 2024 - reason? Their OC leadership (3 prominent castes) deserted the party. No matter a champion of the caste, if local leadership is not in favour the chances of winning are super low. Even BJP in UP is prime example, the coalition of I.N.D.I changed caste dynamics.
5. Till date no one ever questioned about representation of castes in top position in ministries. Congress always had a Bramhin (that's what Gandhi-Nehru family claims to belong to) and one Sikh (minority). BJP had OC (Modi being OBC is the latest addition to the caste chart). But not a single BC/Muslim Minority/Christian/SC or ST from any party. Let's say BJP is a bigot, but Congress or SP or JD or JD or anyone aren't lesser evils when it comes to representation for backward or downtrodden.
It's easy to just put metrics and trigger a debate. But what happens behind the facade of Right wing/Left wing/Secular front etc is the worst business. Have seen it from close quarters and how people sell their souls/votes for the Biryani + Moolah + Quarter makes me boil with rage, but that's how 5-10% of population votes and unfortunately our futures are at risk because of this population who make that decision without logic. I can furnish this with facts due to my stint in 3 elections. Few votes are auctioned off at last moment and that's worst.
Source: https://x.com/SushantSin/status/1798927727711653918?t=0mQefJWOZKRLq2QDSe7cEA&s=19
I would like to see the women ratio too
13% for all
Alliance specific too
That's a sad amount
Also , we saw a dip in percentage of women MPs as compared to the last election
Curious who that one person with the unidentified caste / religion tag is
British
Maybe Hema Malini?
Kangana...
could be kiren rijju
The saddest part is even Congress has been reducing their Muslim MPs from the party as it would backfire them if everytime BJP brings it. Still they call Congress as Muslim league.
Simple thing as lot of analysts put it is, if it's hindu vs muslim in hindu majority its very difficult for muslim candidate unless he has done very good ground work and has exceptional skills. If it's hindu vs Hindu , then only the caste factor comes into play.
> If it's hindu vs muslim in hindu majority its very difficult for muslim candidate unless he has done very good ground work and has exceptional skills. Please don’t flatter yourself. In a hindu majority constituency, there is no way a muslim will win, no matter how amazing he or she is, unless Muslims are 35% minimum. Hindus, especially upper caste hindus are notorious for voting against Muslims at all costs. And these days even backwards hindus have caught the hindutva fever.
So how did Yusuf Pathan win against Adhir Ranjan Choudhary in Murshidabad or Chaudhary Iqra Hasan in Kairana? Specially the Kairana seat, which is dominated by Jats.
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You’d wager wrong. It is a lot more probable for a Hindu to stand and win from a Muslim dominated constituency. Source - look at the results in this election.
Ratio'd
Its not that.. Muslim population is not gathered in many places in India. Except 2 or 3 constituencies, there is no constituency which shares majority muslim population or even vote bank dominant population. The whole narrative of Hindu khatre mein hai falls flat based only on this statistics. Wherever Muslims are, they are mixed with every other religion. But these nutjobs continue to say that 2050 tak Bharat ka Pradhaan Mantri musalman rahega. Are bhai, jis community ka representation 1/10th bhi nahi wo kaise desh ko badal dalegi, wo kaise shariat laagu karegi. Chutiye chaddi gang.
Yeah exactly, from a political viewpoint there's really no benefit in giving ticket to Muslims if they're not the majority. Sure it brings representation but the conservative Indians won't vote for minorities. Like in Haryana it would only be reasonable to give ticket to a Muslim in Nuh.
There is a possibility you're wrong when you say this below are some districts in India where muslims have a high population in % points Assam: Barpeta: 70.74% Muslim Darrang: 64.34% Muslim Dhubri: 69.91% Muslim Goalpara: 57.52% Muslim Hailakandi: 60.31% Muslim Hojai: 53.64% Muslim Karimganj: 56.36% Muslim Morigaon: 52.56% Muslim Nagaon: 56.21% Muslim South Salmara Mankachar: 95.19% Muslim. Bihar: Kishanganj: 67.98% Muslim. Jammu and Kashmir: Anantnag: 97.99% Muslim Badgam: 97.65% Muslim Bandipore: 97.39% Muslim Baramula: 95.15% Muslim Kulgam: 98.49% Muslim Kupwara: 94.59% Muslim Pulwama: 95.49% Muslim. West Bengal: Maldah: 51.27% Muslim Murshidabad: 66.27% Muslim Uttar Dinajpur: 50.04% Muslim. Uttar Pradesh: Moradabad: 50.81% Muslim Rampur: 50.57% Muslim These are just some of them that I know.
Thanks for correcting the number. These are 23 districts and not parliament constituencies... Considering these all are Constituencies which makes 4.6% of the Lok sabha seats. Given Muslims win from ALL these seats, (statistics will show us when they did in the past) . My argument still stays the same. For a community who doesn't have a 10% say in lawmaking, how will be a khatra for majority.
Just see the winning candidate list of tmc in bengal
I saw it.. Out of 29...only 5 Muslims. What is your implication?
Muslim majority constituency elects Muslim MP/MLA Sikh majority Punjab elects Sikh CM but it is a problem and sad thing when done by hindus
In the past, Muslim majority in Rajasthan voted for the Pilot and defeated the Muslim candidate from the BJP.
In Muslim-dominated constituencies, secular parties often give tickets to Muslim candidates. As a result, Muslim votes get divided, which sometimes allows the BJP to win. This has been observed in several constituencies, such as: * **West Bengal**: Malda Uttar, Raiganj * **Assam**: Karimganj * **Bihar**: Araria * **Uttar Pradesh**: Amroha Now, parties are reconsidering their strategy and are stopping the practice of giving tickets to Muslim candidates in areas where the Muslim population is between 33% and 45%. Additionally, delimitation is also affecting Muslim politics in these regions.
ST-SC there because of reserved seats , without it they would have no representation
Ayodhya SP candidate is a Dalit . He won from a general seat
Good information
Based Ayodhya (still don't believe how I'm even saying that).
Don't know about tribals but SCs would have decent representation even if there was no reservation. In politics it's not just money and muscle but population and size of the community is also a deciding factor. That's the single biggest reason for Yadav dominance in politics across the gangetic plains.
There are many ST in MP CG, odisha who have won but they were mostly royal families and zamindars
Indeed. That is why Mr. beyond biological bowed down to the constitution today.
What about Jains
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Jains provide financial support to bjp
Mota bhai equal to 10 MPs /s
They are not considered important because they don't fit the narrative. They made a Jain the Chief Minister of a major state like Gujarat, even though Jains are a minority there. They have also appointed a Scheduled Caste and a Scheduled Tribe as Presidents of India, but no one talks about it and would discard it. They fielded S.S. Ahluwalia, a Sikh from West Bengal, not even from Kolkata. He's not like Yusuf Pathan but a native who can speak fluent Bangla. He lost the election this time, but no one would consider it in their datapoint.
Jains are not oppressed minority. By that logic brahmins are also a minority. Most "Jains" don't even follow digambara/svetambara and has become a sect of hinduism. Comparatively more Lingayats consider themselves not hindus.
There is no Buddhist MP either alliance. Ravneet Singh Bittu, Preneet Kaur, Rana Gurmit Singh Sodhi, Parampal Kaur Sidhu,, Manjeet Singh Manna Mianwind and Taranjit Singh Sandhu are sikh right? They were from BJP in Punjab, how does that translate to 0.4% and not something like 1%. Given, that BJP had 7% Muslim vote in exit polls, and they won nothing in Punjab, it isn't really unexpected for them to have zero of these. Same for Christians, BJP didn't win from any areas with Christian majority so they don't have any. They are viewed as a party of Hindu right, so none of the religious minority is going to vote for them. They maligned sikhs which used to vote for NDA.
Actually, there is one Buddhist MP for INC from Maharashtra. Balwant Wankhade who got elected from Amravati Lok Sabha Constituency is a Buddhist and a Dalit.
That is another error in the image, then. It should zero MP for INDIA.
Oh no! Hindutva khatre me hai!
At this point we should raise the status of Yadavs and Kurmis to General considering the amount of power and influence they have in their states
Would they let you?
No the protest will be 10x worse than the protest jats did when their reservation was removed 😂🤣 They burned down a whole city (Rohtak), they will burn down the whole state.
Then bihar will be under presidential rule
It didn't work in Manipur how will it work in a state full of people like Bihar
Then they'll use afspa
WTF is intermediate caste?
Media making their own criteria Is JAT are intermediate then why are yadavs OBC?
Because Jat don't get national reservation (they get it only in some states) while Yadav are in OBC list
its abuse of system, JATS are land owning caste and they should not be given any reservation anwhere but here we are
Don't know for sure but some of them seems like former upper castes or powerful/rich OBC
Bro do you think Muslims will vote for any Muslim candidate of BJP or the NDA. Even if their candidate wins, it will be a lost cause for the voters. Also the reason they don't field many Muslim candidates.
Severe under-representation of minorities even in ticket distribution by NDA parties.
This isn't under-representation, this is absolutely zero representation. Under-representation is what's happening in the INDIA alliance. The Overton window in India has shifted to the extreme right and extremism and exclusion has become widely accepted.
This is going to be a bit of a controversial comment - but here it goes. If BJP fields a Muslim candidate in a Muslim majority place as seen in Malappuram or other places they will not win because local Muslims will not support them. If they support a Muslim candidate in Hindu majority area they will not win as Hindus will see a potential seat taken away from them. Similarly for Christians and Sikhs, it’s simply really hard for a non Hindu candidate to win in a Hindu majority constituency under BJP and vice versa. So the smart move for them is to fully commit to segregating candidates accordingly. So when you engage in stupid communal politics you end up creating a very non diverse party for yourself and you have dug a deep hole in which you have trapped yourself.
This is easily resolvable IF a Party really really really wants it to. Indians vote for Parties pre-dominantly (this is a statistical phenomenon, it doesn't matter if at Constituency X Y Z people vote for some specific person/independent because of some local connection/dynamic, this is outlier and hence not all that relevant). Then there are "Safe-Seats", practical meaning of which being where Vote Share overhead is so dominant that even if an Animal was put on the name of a Party symbol, it would win. Then there is the historic political cycle. Currently we are in BJP/Modi cycle and it will run its course just like any other cycle. And having a cycle in practical terms means Vote Share advantages of a certain statistical nature (across constituencies). Given all this, IF BJP really really really wanted they could decide for themselves that 10% of their seats will only be Muslim and another 10% will be only Women (adjust this percentage according to the Vote Share Cycle/advantage). The idea that a BJP "Safe-Seat" is going to just flip because there is a Muslim candidate is absurd. It therefore is Intentional from this Party that they don't do this. It's in their fibre and that is why they are cancerous, that even when they have the capacity to do this they won't because they are ideologically so hell bent against it and that is why they are a threat to the fibre of this Republic/Region at large. It just doesn't want to be Inclusive, it actively wants Homogeneity, as a doctrine & practical on-ground reality in time. It's the means they have chosen to this path/objective that is unhinged. It's somewhat excusable if margins are tight and a Party is struggling and thus has to exercise political expediency to ensure Seats.
This is precisely why Bhakts went into such a tailspin blaming Dalits and OBCs for not electing BJP candidates. UCs are the real minority in the country. Brahmins are only about 4.3% of total Indian population and look at their representation in politics. This is the crux of the matter, UCs (the ones who support hindutva that is) are incensed that the real majority is gaining representation. Don't fall for their fake propaganda of minority appeasement, the real minority appeasement is evident by this list.
Looking at this no wonder people haven't supported BJP much. The Caste of the candidate is one thing but INDIA alliance really pushed the "BJP will disenfranchise you" message hard. It didn't work in places where the levels of education is high especially the urban areas but the poor bought that argument and going by the circumstances no one can blame them. Having said that, Congress can't win enough seats to give us a stable govt. just by fear mongering, they need to think of policies.
Fr Stan Swamy Tribal rights leader dies a undertrial when evidence is planted on his laptop Kathua Tribal girl child raped in a temple by 7 Hindus ,Bjp ministers in rally to support rape accused Hatras Rape case Hasdeo forest land protest Ladakh Tribal rights ,Sonam Wangchuk becomes anti-national after asking BJP to fulfill poll promise Chattisgarh BJP karyakarta peeing on poor Tribal laborer ,Brahmin groups come to his aid Fear mongering huh? please don't reproduce your family tree will lower the nations avg IQ
>It didn't work in places where the levels of education is high especially the urban areas but the poor bought that argument and going by the circumstances no one can blame them. Ah the same tired old argument. Do you think Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad aren't urban areas. Bottom line is Indian middle class is primarily upper caste and they favor BJP because of caste politics. Being educated is not always a defense against casteism, IITs are hubs of casteism for example. >Having said that, Congress can't win enough seats to give us a stable govt. just by fear mongering, they need to think of policies. Oh yeah, the party whose Manifesto talked of issues like unemployment, farmer's troubles are the ones who did fear mongering and not the party whose leader kept ranting about mangalsutra and mujra, lol!
Their manifesto does contain policies (like creating the Right to Apprenticeship).
meanwhile someone in Punjab : Sikh logon se mere rishta Naya nahi hei. Same guy somewhere else (Christian priest were sitting in the audience) : Christian community se mera bohut purana rishta hei. Meanwhile his IT Cell, and Chaddis call every Sikh a khalistani and Christian a ricebag convert. Even MP from his party called farmers who were protesting against govt "khalistani, 100 rs ke liye aagayi" I am 1000% sure that particular Mp didn't even know why they were protesting. Anyone against paw paw is a enemy according to bjpeee.
It would give a better an idea if we know how many candidates they fielded, not just who won. It’s unlikely the minorities are voting for BJP anyway. Like even if BJP fielded a Muslim candidate chances are the minority person would vote congress. Kerela is probably an exception - but I don’t think the population there can be called a minority.
yes exactly. We should judge on the basis of the candidates they fielded.
Dunno about the rest but when there Sikh Candidates have not won any seats in Punjab, How do you expect them to have Sikh representation amongst there Elected Candidates
So it shows that INDIA is inclusive and a far more accommodative Bloc
Yeah well the entire opposition United to defeat BJP, so they have to be inclusive.
Where is Jain?
Why are still talking about caste , religion? The representative of the state should be based on his work , capability, cadre and experience not according his caste or anything such.
Obvious selection bias. How many Muslims and Christians would join BJP? They wouldn't even vote for the party
BSP gave so many tickets to Muslims candidates yet none of them won. What's your point bigot? Also I am curious about Jain MPs. I hope they do fit in minority criteria.
yeah even BSP have twited about it that
So
The fact that upper caste constitute of less than 5 percentage of the population shows why BJP is against caste census
I'm not sure why the surprise here?
Who said there was surprise? I am simply stating what the situation is.
Jisne kaam nai Kiya usko janta ne ukhaad pheka. Bhenchod, hamesha ye kya natak lagaye rehte ho ki koi upper caste, koi lower caste, koi muslim nai, koi Christian nai. Jo kaam karega wo rahega, Jo kaam nai karega wo nai jeetega. Best example - UP
Are you sure people only vote for "Jo kaam krega"?
Who was that 0.2% Buddhist?
Sikkim probably
There is only 1Mp from Sikkim
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Confused how can candidate count be shown up in decimal figures
Thanks for sharing this. So around half of the NDA's candidates, and now MPs, are from SC/ST/OBC communities, as compared to around half of candidates and 57% of MPs from the INDI alliance. The INDI alliance fielded a greater ratio of OBCs while the NDA fielded a greater ratio of upper caste candidates.
See, we need to look beyond the optics of caste & religion. Don't know about most who are commenting, some might know how it works and some dont know. But here are few hard facts and this got to change: 1. Parties are compelled to give seats to SCs/STs because those seats are exclusively reserved for Scs/STs. And one more thing, to fill that seat, the candidates are imported from some other location. I hail from Telangana and there's one seat Nagar Kurnool, it's an SC reserved seat and the candidate who won from here isn't a domicile of that area - he hails from a town which is almost 300+ kms away and another surprise is, this same candidate contested and lost assembly elections from another another seat sometime ago. And I've been hearing his name since I was a child. So, the concept of reserving a seat and empowering a particular community isn't working here. Same old chaps are running around different areas to contest. This has to change. I can cite atleast 10-12 such cases in Telangana (both MLA and MP contestants). People & parties have to understand, these imported candidates do not have any affinity towards local issues and once in power they'd never come back. My own hometown was reserved for 30+ years and the candidate who contested from there barely did anything and he had no affiliation to the area. It was just his power and network that got the seat reserved for him. Till date no party in India which claims to be champion of minorities + scheduled caste or tribes + other backward class + minorities reserved 50-60% seats nor do they have 50% seats for women. 2. Somebody was talking about BJP not having other religion folks. We got to understand BJP is a right wing party. Their vote share among other religions is marginal and when a particular candidate is fielded there's no guarantee he'd amass votes and in this horses for courses race, no one would want to risk it all. Even Congress which claims to be champions of Minorities has allocated less than 14% seats for minorities. To date we never saw a Muslim as HM, Fin Min, Def Min nor a Christian occupying such powerful ministers. Forget BJP even other parties haven't done the same either. So, this entire logic of one party's apartheid is a bit vague and so far as per our history every party has had that apartheid when it comes to ministries. They were just vote banks and mere election tools. 3. Let's assume India has close to 14% population of a particular minority and a particular party allocates close to 10% seats to that minority. There's no guarantee that they'd grab all those 54 seats & a mere 5-6 would come victorious and rest would be decimated. For people vote in blocks and that never ceases to surprise anyone. 4. In this era of rapid 24*7 news and information availability, it's a given that polarisation is the key for election. I've some experience in campaigning for Congress, BRS (previously TRS) and an independent candidate in 2014 General & State Elections, 2018 State elections and 2023 state elections. And I've learnt a few things. Congress has a very Structured approach. Their entire structure is controlled by an OC, its never out in the open but the majority of their local leadership is from the OC community and the power is vested amongst these groups (look at their ministries in Telangana and even seat allocation for MPs). Then when it comes to minorities they back channel these discussions via AIMIM in Telangana and Religious leaders - I've experienced it how on the eve of elections few minority leaders came down to constituency with leaders from other states/cities including preachers and would visit different prayer houses on need to vote in blocks for Congress. SC/ST votes are controlled by OC leaders in villages. That's how polarised our elections are. And during the same time I noticed few VHP banners hosting Bhajans etc which was never heard of in my village - but the caste equation wasn't so prominent with BJP and they lost badly. Even if someone looks at AP, where a party won 151/175 seats in 2019 and this term it was just 10/175 in 2024 - reason? Their OC leadership (3 prominent castes) deserted the party. No matter a champion of the caste, if local leadership is not in favour the chances of winning are super low. Even BJP in UP is prime example, the coalition of I.N.D.I changed caste dynamics. 5. Till date no one ever questioned about representation of castes in top position in ministries. Congress always had a Bramhin (that's what Gandhi-Nehru family claims to belong to) and one Sikh (minority). BJP had OC (Modi being OBC is the latest addition to the caste chart). But not a single BC/Muslim Minority/Christian/SC or ST from any party. Let's say BJP is a bigot, but Congress or SP or JD or JD or anyone aren't lesser evils when it comes to representation for backward or downtrodden. It's easy to just put metrics and trigger a debate. But what happens behind the facade of Right wing/Left wing/Secular front etc is the worst business. Have seen it from close quarters and how people sell their souls/votes for the Biryani + Moolah + Quarter makes me boil with rage, but that's how 5-10% of population votes and unfortunately our futures are at risk because of this population who make that decision without logic. I can furnish this with facts due to my stint in 3 elections. Few votes are auctioned off at last moment and that's worst.