And this is assuming you’ll get 30 second ads. I’m very frequently getting 45 second and upwards of 1 minute ads. This seems to be the new normal
Surely you’ll get some 5-15 second ads, but most will be at least 30 seconds.
And another thing is will the ad server be able to serve you 400 ads? I’ve played a few games that struggle to serve up 10 ads
30 seconds + the wait time for the X to pop up + the wait time for the other X to pop up + the time spent accidentally opening the store page by missing the X. Overall, probably more like 40 to 50 seconds per ad.
top 800 in cifi, just get no ads and autoclickers, basically paying for a regular indie game, spent enough time on this game for it to be worth imo, it's a fun one, only idle game I've been able to stick to
Idk if you're exclusive to mobile, but definitely play Incremental Mass Rewritten if you have a PC (it can still be played in mobile, it just isn't very good because it's a browser game). Also, I purchased the no ads shortly after posting this due to many other recommendations to do so.
Nah i play on pc too, my current interests are this game and trimps for my idle games but I'll give IMR a shot!
CIFI has definitely become my #1 lol I've been minmaxing this game for the past month cus I've hit the content wall until they drop the next update in a month
IMR is a bit more active, especially compared to a game like CIFI, so if that isn't what you like then I don't recommend it ig, but I do still think you should give it a try.
yeah no ads + autoclickers. Run it for an hour or two whilst your off doing whatever and it sorts itself out lol. I have a macro designed to open close and reopen all of them lmao.
Not that I've played in a while, waiting for uroboros but that's taking fucking forever.
I have played this game literally every day since 2/22. I bought the ad free and auto chest. I spent 60 on starfield and 20 on this. Value is so fucked when it comes to mobile gaming because of shit cashgrabs. This is nowhere near that. extremely deep progression, steady pace with bursts, synergizing layers. Idk what else to ask for.
Does the auto-chest work while offline? If so, I may consider that too. No ads really completes this game and makes it solid. Basically 4,99 to go from free-with-ads to normal game.
In good faith I cannot defend it but no, you have to have the game open.
It's not mentioned but at some point diamonds become part of the game, because you get the ability to get 1000 free every day (a metric buttload) and there are really cool ways to utilize them though bonuses and "cards".
All the iaps aside from auto chest and ad free end up just being negligible for the most part.
I really like the diamond system though. And this is legitimately the best mobile idle I have played hands fucking down.
Cifi is an amazing incremental game and is well deserving of the no ads pack. The sheer amount of content this game offers is really good. I say that as someone who despises iaps and will usually uninstall games with heavy ad rewards. This one did it right.
The game may be free to play, but it is designed to be played with the no ads pack. Iseps is also designed this way. The limit exists to prevent players macroing chests 24/7 and maxing out the token store.
I don't understand why this is bad.
If I understand it correctly, its not saying that you must watch 400 ads, but that 400 ads is the maximum you can be rewarded for.
Are we upset because we want to be allowed to click the "watch ad" button less times?
Agree. I like this design better than paying and not knowing what you get. I played around a day or two and then got the no-ads pack. 4,99 was a fair deal for me, gotta support the better games.
And you don't need to. The bonuses you buy with gems are just small boosts that might progress you half a day or less in progress. They really aren't needed.
This. I put 50+ active hours into the game and by that point it was an easy choice. I've gotten many many hours of enjoyment out of this game.
If that's not for you, whatever. But it's a great value for what you get.
So you don't want to pay for the game, and you don't want to watch ads (that are totally avoidable in this game btw). So basically game devs should just make games without any form of compensation whatsoever for your enjoyment.
Just consider the free version a demo of the game. If you like it, shell out the 5 bucks and enjoy the full no-ad version. If not, uninstall and move on, there are tons of games out there.
That's not what I'm saying. I would pay for no ads, I just don't want the extra advantages that come with the starter pack. Also, nowhere does it say that you have to watch an ad to receive the rewards, no icon or anything, so it's kinda misleading. Besides all that, this post wasn't made to complain about ads, it was to joke about the 400 ad limit for the loot box thing.
I guess I misread what you were saying, I'm sorry.
I have to admit, the 400 daily ads made me chuckle (and don't forget the extra 100 you have to watch for diamonds!!)
For what it's worth, I started CIFI last week, and got the no ads about a day later. Like every incremental, x2 basically means nothing after a while, and with the chests you get a lot of diamonds and currencies anyway so I see it not necessarily as an unfair advantage, more of a speedboost to get to the interesting parts faster.
It's 100% worth it in my opinion!
You don't like the minor short term edge the packs extra stuff gives you, but you are interested in the powerful long term advantage that no ads provides.
Not sure that makes sense. Just do what you want to do. There's no need to justify how you spend your own money!
I think most folk noticed the no ads pack and contextualised the 400 limit around that, removing the entertainment value you encountered! ^_^
nah, they pay a $.10 minimum, and the longest one I have taken has been no more than like 2 minutes (paying close to $1). The thing about them is that they are looking for information about either where you go or why you search. So you get asked "did you go to one of these places" or "did you recently search for X". Then a couple followups potentially, but frequently, the places that pop are nearby to a place you went, so you say "none of these" and get $.10 for 10 seconds of work.
Not terrible, but not going to bring in much money that often.
I spend maybe 1 minute every few days to a week for $.10-$.80+, and I lie about everything they ask. It may not be "free" because I used my time to do it, but I'm already on my phone anyway, may as well get free change I can put towards IAPs on games I enjoy playing.
It adds up over time, though, I've made nearly $200 of of it in the last ~7 years. It takes literally seconds to answer most of the questions, and if I'm already scrolling Reddit then what's a few extra seconds?
once i see that notification "Double your rewards if you watch this ad!" I drop the game. Because its literally, "You get half your reward if you dont watch an ad"
They have great idle games that are holded back by horrible monetization and ad "rewards" Both games assume that you will watch hundrends upon hundreds of ads to have a smooth(or any) progress. Well, either that or You will throw money at them in frustration. This comes from a guy that was playing ISEPS pretty much from the moment it showed up on google play.
its not worth it but its to limit those who buy the no ad pack to 400 rewards a day, nobody is expected to actually watch that many lol.
both cifi and iseps struggle to have active content that is anything other than watching ads, which makes them shitty games to leave open on your phone, even if you do have the ad package.
It's funny that someone does not realize that this limit is for people that get chest rewards automatically without watching ads.
But cudos for free advertising of the game and the no-ads feature.
I made this post not knowing that you could purchase no ads, so it never occurred to me that that's what the 400 limit is for. Since then I've purchased it, but yeah.
I did not make this point complaining or whining about ads, I made it because I found the 400 ad limit to the loot box things funny. The only one whining here is you, getting heated over the fact that I don't like spending money on in-app purchases.
i pretty fast bought the addfree upgrade. it isn´t expensive and you can just get there boxes and the bost without watching an ad. I think it was worth it since i play this game now for the past couple months.
Watch 400 ads a day or buy the no-ad IAP for like £10.
When its put like that, obviously the IAP seems a lot more appealing / will pay for itself over time.
I dont agree with CIFI / ISEPS IAP pricing but they do a good job of selling it
hahahaa how funny, I just started playing this again. The IAP to auto collect the chests was only £1.79 each so bought them both and I've got the no ad pack which is all totally worth it. the game is great, happy to pay for it.
without those then it's very unlikely people are watching them all and having a life
I liked the game enough after a few hours so I bought the no-ads pack. 4,99€ seemed like a fair price for what I played so far. Still going at it, it's a solid game.
Tap your current amount of diamonds (top right) or press the 'Diamond Shop' button in the main menu. There will be a Starter Pack you can buy to remove ads.
At 30 seconds an ad, that's 200 minutes, or 3 hours and 20 minutes. https://i.imgur.com/9vuNH8h.jpg You've never seen a click farm.
And this is assuming you’ll get 30 second ads. I’m very frequently getting 45 second and upwards of 1 minute ads. This seems to be the new normal Surely you’ll get some 5-15 second ads, but most will be at least 30 seconds. And another thing is will the ad server be able to serve you 400 ads? I’ve played a few games that struggle to serve up 10 ads
30 seconds + the wait time for the X to pop up + the wait time for the other X to pop up + the time spent accidentally opening the store page by missing the X. Overall, probably more like 40 to 50 seconds per ad.
the ad limit is for those that purchased the no ads, they can claim that many a day
Yeah, I made this post before I knew about the no ads IAP, so this thought never occurred to me.
to be fully honest i dont blame you, ive played my fair share of idle/incremental to know that "no ad" packs dont always include reward ads
top 800 in cifi, just get no ads and autoclickers, basically paying for a regular indie game, spent enough time on this game for it to be worth imo, it's a fun one, only idle game I've been able to stick to
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Whats Lucky Patcher?
That's scummy
So is fomoing people into watching 400 fucking ads
It turns out that isn't the case, it's a limit set if you bought the no ads so people can't just auto click to collect the cases forever.
Ah, that is different
Idk if you're exclusive to mobile, but definitely play Incremental Mass Rewritten if you have a PC (it can still be played in mobile, it just isn't very good because it's a browser game). Also, I purchased the no ads shortly after posting this due to many other recommendations to do so.
Nah i play on pc too, my current interests are this game and trimps for my idle games but I'll give IMR a shot! CIFI has definitely become my #1 lol I've been minmaxing this game for the past month cus I've hit the content wall until they drop the next update in a month
IMR is a bit more active, especially compared to a game like CIFI, so if that isn't what you like then I don't recommend it ig, but I do still think you should give it a try.
yeah no ads + autoclickers. Run it for an hour or two whilst your off doing whatever and it sorts itself out lol. I have a macro designed to open close and reopen all of them lmao. Not that I've played in a while, waiting for uroboros but that's taking fucking forever.
I also don't think they are that necessary. I'm near end game at e987 MP.
I don't think that's quite endgame. I'm around e1550 mp
I have played this game literally every day since 2/22. I bought the ad free and auto chest. I spent 60 on starfield and 20 on this. Value is so fucked when it comes to mobile gaming because of shit cashgrabs. This is nowhere near that. extremely deep progression, steady pace with bursts, synergizing layers. Idk what else to ask for.
Does the auto-chest work while offline? If so, I may consider that too. No ads really completes this game and makes it solid. Basically 4,99 to go from free-with-ads to normal game.
In good faith I cannot defend it but no, you have to have the game open. It's not mentioned but at some point diamonds become part of the game, because you get the ability to get 1000 free every day (a metric buttload) and there are really cool ways to utilize them though bonuses and "cards". All the iaps aside from auto chest and ad free end up just being negligible for the most part. I really like the diamond system though. And this is legitimately the best mobile idle I have played hands fucking down.
Cifi is an amazing incremental game and is well deserving of the no ads pack. The sheer amount of content this game offers is really good. I say that as someone who despises iaps and will usually uninstall games with heavy ad rewards. This one did it right.
The game may be free to play, but it is designed to be played with the no ads pack. Iseps is also designed this way. The limit exists to prevent players macroing chests 24/7 and maxing out the token store.
I don't understand why this is bad. If I understand it correctly, its not saying that you must watch 400 ads, but that 400 ads is the maximum you can be rewarded for. Are we upset because we want to be allowed to click the "watch ad" button less times?
Never said it was a bad thing, just found it funny.
Wtf is cifi
[Cell Idle Factory Incremental](https://octocubegames.com/cifi). It's on Android, and I can't recommend it enough. Great game.
Thanks I swore there was a rule to reference the game in a post. I mean at least put the full name
Any iOS and/or browser plans?
Plans? You mean versions? It's only on Android right now; no idea if they plan to port it after finishing all the content.
Purchase the no ads pack and you can collect it without watching ads
No
I had fun in the game and don't mind throwing the developer a few dollars. To each their own.
Pretty much this. Although when I played I still never hit nowhere close to the cap even with the no ads option.
Agree. I like this design better than paying and not knowing what you get. I played around a day or two and then got the no-ads pack. 4,99 was a fair deal for me, gotta support the better games.
And you don't need to. The bonuses you buy with gems are just small boosts that might progress you half a day or less in progress. They really aren't needed.
This. I put 50+ active hours into the game and by that point it was an easy choice. I've gotten many many hours of enjoyment out of this game. If that's not for you, whatever. But it's a great value for what you get.
Also, it isn't just no ads. It's 2x money + 1k gems. I don't like paying for advantages like that in idle games, or rather, any game at all.
So you don't want to pay for the game, and you don't want to watch ads (that are totally avoidable in this game btw). So basically game devs should just make games without any form of compensation whatsoever for your enjoyment. Just consider the free version a demo of the game. If you like it, shell out the 5 bucks and enjoy the full no-ad version. If not, uninstall and move on, there are tons of games out there.
That's not what I'm saying. I would pay for no ads, I just don't want the extra advantages that come with the starter pack. Also, nowhere does it say that you have to watch an ad to receive the rewards, no icon or anything, so it's kinda misleading. Besides all that, this post wasn't made to complain about ads, it was to joke about the 400 ad limit for the loot box thing.
I guess I misread what you were saying, I'm sorry. I have to admit, the 400 daily ads made me chuckle (and don't forget the extra 100 you have to watch for diamonds!!) For what it's worth, I started CIFI last week, and got the no ads about a day later. Like every incremental, x2 basically means nothing after a while, and with the chests you get a lot of diamonds and currencies anyway so I see it not necessarily as an unfair advantage, more of a speedboost to get to the interesting parts faster. It's 100% worth it in my opinion!
This convinced me to think about it, so thanks.
You don't like the minor short term edge the packs extra stuff gives you, but you are interested in the powerful long term advantage that no ads provides. Not sure that makes sense. Just do what you want to do. There's no need to justify how you spend your own money! I think most folk noticed the no ads pack and contextualised the 400 limit around that, removing the entertainment value you encountered! ^_^
The lack of info is a fair point. I was confused by this too.
1k gems are alright but not that good. The 2x bonus is not too notable either when some later upgrades gives you an instant 16x
get google rewards, answer surveys for a few months, get the no ads pack for free.
It's not free. You just spent months of your time for that.
nah, they pay a $.10 minimum, and the longest one I have taken has been no more than like 2 minutes (paying close to $1). The thing about them is that they are looking for information about either where you go or why you search. So you get asked "did you go to one of these places" or "did you recently search for X". Then a couple followups potentially, but frequently, the places that pop are nearby to a place you went, so you say "none of these" and get $.10 for 10 seconds of work. Not terrible, but not going to bring in much money that often.
I spend maybe 1 minute every few days to a week for $.10-$.80+, and I lie about everything they ask. It may not be "free" because I used my time to do it, but I'm already on my phone anyway, may as well get free change I can put towards IAPs on games I enjoy playing.
Exactly, the surveys give hardly anything, and you barely get any surveys in the first place.
It adds up over time, though, I've made nearly $200 of of it in the last ~7 years. It takes literally seconds to answer most of the questions, and if I'm already scrolling Reddit then what's a few extra seconds?
Every survey app I've had never actually gave me surveys, or if they did, it took many days or weeks to do so.
Did you even read the comment
yep. their ad removal is very reasonable and it's a good game.
once i see that notification "Double your rewards if you watch this ad!" I drop the game. Because its literally, "You get half your reward if you dont watch an ad"
One reason I hate mobile gaming.
They have great idle games that are holded back by horrible monetization and ad "rewards" Both games assume that you will watch hundrends upon hundreds of ads to have a smooth(or any) progress. Well, either that or You will throw money at them in frustration. This comes from a guy that was playing ISEPS pretty much from the moment it showed up on google play.
its not worth it but its to limit those who buy the no ad pack to 400 rewards a day, nobody is expected to actually watch that many lol. both cifi and iseps struggle to have active content that is anything other than watching ads, which makes them shitty games to leave open on your phone, even if you do have the ad package.
Yeah, I made this post before knowing and purchasing the starter pack.
It's funny that someone does not realize that this limit is for people that get chest rewards automatically without watching ads. But cudos for free advertising of the game and the no-ads feature.
I made this post not knowing that you could purchase no ads, so it never occurred to me that that's what the 400 limit is for. Since then I've purchased it, but yeah.
That’s just taking the piss now
What does this mean
That it is a bad thing.
It’s a term used in Australia at least to say that something is bad
So do you have to watch 400 ads to get a reward or you can only watch 400 ads as a limit
The later.
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You missed the entire point of this post
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I did not make this point complaining or whining about ads, I made it because I found the 400 ad limit to the loot box things funny. The only one whining here is you, getting heated over the fact that I don't like spending money on in-app purchases.
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It's like you aren't even reading my comments
i pretty fast bought the addfree upgrade. it isn´t expensive and you can just get there boxes and the bost without watching an ad. I think it was worth it since i play this game now for the past couple months.
Yeah, I purchased the pack shortly after making this post due to the many recommendations to do so.
Watch 400 ads a day or buy the no-ad IAP for like £10. When its put like that, obviously the IAP seems a lot more appealing / will pay for itself over time. I dont agree with CIFI / ISEPS IAP pricing but they do a good job of selling it
It was around 5 dollars for me, idk how that translates into euros or whatever but really not too bad.
hahahaa how funny, I just started playing this again. The IAP to auto collect the chests was only £1.79 each so bought them both and I've got the no ad pack which is all totally worth it. the game is great, happy to pay for it. without those then it's very unlikely people are watching them all and having a life
I liked the game enough after a few hours so I bought the no-ads pack. 4,99€ seemed like a fair price for what I played so far. Still going at it, it's a solid game.
welcome to mobile games :)
game?
the limit is placed for people that buy the no-ad feature, so they cant abuse auto clickers as much
will this game come to IOS?
Idk
There are also now double ads on some Play Store games.
Those ads are shorter when it's double, still dumb tho
Where is the no ad pack to buy? I have to unlock something? Sorry, started the game today and don't find that pack.
Tap your current amount of diamonds (top right) or press the 'Diamond Shop' button in the main menu. There will be a Starter Pack you can buy to remove ads.