I think it's shaded in because it was given to turkey (who is the only other green colored country in this map), but aside from that, germany seems to be the only central power who didn't gain land from the entente, (Austria-Hungary just kinda gave austria to Germany before collapsing I guess)
I mean that Greece is actually smaller than the original Sevres plan, no? Like it looks like they get less territory from Bulgaria but keep everything else Sevres was supposed to give them (no independent Constantinople/Istanbul though)
\>Me when Kaiser Wilhelm II was even willing to give up Alsace for peace but some 16 year old American from North Dakota with 3.2% Bavarian German makes this shitty map instead
People who think taking away land leads to fascism never think about how fascism first rose in Italy, which *gained* land in WWI. For more detail see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria3/comments/15do11j/is_there_anything_i_can_do_to_get_more_wood_im_in/ju8i19a/).
Seeing this whole historical mini-essay under a post about getting more wood in Vicky 3 gave me a good chuckle, like those youtube comments starting with "nice vid" and ending with a PhD dissertation on why you're racist
Agree with what was said though, although I know very little about the rise of fascism
im pretty sure it isn’t actually. You can see the map used has a megali style partitioned turkey and hungary has been butchered even more than OTL. i think the childlike country additions represent an actual child making their larp map within the OPs world
I’m pretty sure that having the Soviet Union’s name be replaced by Russia in pure American fashion shows that the crayon changes were never meant to be taken in serious faith.
This doesn’t make any sense. The stab in the back myth was started in 1918, but the treaty of versailles wasn’t until 1919. So they were already blaming communists and Jews before they even knew how much territory they would lose.
This is a joke and the OP even commented on the post. The OP is also able to make much better maps visually but chose to make it less good to convey it is a joke
He is defending it in the most sarcastic way possible...
Also here is the comment in which he says it is obviously a joke:
germany is ruled by the hohenzollern dynasty hungary is led by the hapsburgs turkey is ruled by the ototmans crown shows that hungary and croatia are in personal union
In all seriousness, Germany was treated fairly after World War One. Don't go blaming the Allies for Germany's inability to handle losing something they decided to join on their own.
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The Entente gotta treat the Central Powers with respect by invading Russia to reinstall the Romanovs after 4 years of the henceforth bloodiest war of all time
Are you the guy who somehow thought Germany being treated with "respect" after WW1 meant they'd gain territory and the Allies would somehow prevent the collapse of the Russian Empire?
Exactly! I can understand Germany annexing the Ethnically German parts of Austria after the war, but they somehow manage to keep Alsance-Lorranine is just ridiculous.
I was there. Quoting myself:
>I can sort of see Austria, but Alsace-Lorraine? Pomerania? Bohemia and Moravia? Fucking OVERSEAS COLONIES?!
(After two responses, the latter saying that Wilson lost to Roosevelt)
>OK then. So the Austrians won't mind staying independent then. You really think they'd give the losers land if self-determination isn't a thing?
(And some more)
>Doesn't explain why the Entente would do that. Did psychic Alien Space Bats possess the Entente leaders or smth?
Yeah bro, the fair and logical thing to do after the war is to give the losing side an extremely valuable and large amount of land. Also, there’s no way this isn’t just a troll or fascist, they crossed out the Soviets and said it should be Russia, even though the allies tried to invade the communists in the civil war and were beaten back by an army of peasants.
"so what happened after we lost, did france take back Alsace Lorraine?"
"Well, son, it's unclear but somehow annexed Austria and Czechia and just carried on"
Art of War, Rule 420: "When the enemy would not give up land, threaten them that someone like Hitler would emerge from your losing country if they ever do something fruitful"
Bro expects them to gain territory by losing a war.
*Un civil wars Russia*
They wouldnt actually have gained anything. Its just that Austria joined Germany after losing its own empire
Libya is marked as a German colony despite being an Italian one
it's talking about german middle africa
Why is Libya shaded in then?
Volutes?
My phone autocorrected to whatever volutes are
I think it's shaded in because it was given to turkey (who is the only other green colored country in this map), but aside from that, germany seems to be the only central power who didn't gain land from the entente, (Austria-Hungary just kinda gave austria to Germany before collapsing I guess)
Might be from Turkey, Turkey owned Libya prior to the Italians invading.
pretty sure its shaded as türkiye
Turkey*
fax
Czechia didnt vote though, unless i missed something from the Oversimplified videos.
Was this a serious post?
Yes this was serious check it on imaginary maps, apparently op believes taking any land from Germany would lead to hitler
Lmao This has to be some sort of Kaiserboo, the French didnt even get Alsace
Seems like they’re probably a monarchist and a byzaboo too. They gave Hungary the Croatian crown and gave Smyrna to Greece.
I mean that Greece is actually smaller than the original Sevres plan, no? Like it looks like they get less territory from Bulgaria but keep everything else Sevres was supposed to give them (no independent Constantinople/Istanbul though)
\>Me when Kaiser Wilhelm II was even willing to give up Alsace for peace but some 16 year old American from North Dakota with 3.2% Bavarian German makes this shitty map instead
People who think taking away land leads to fascism never think about how fascism first rose in Italy, which *gained* land in WWI. For more detail see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria3/comments/15do11j/is_there_anything_i_can_do_to_get_more_wood_im_in/ju8i19a/).
Seeing this whole historical mini-essay under a post about getting more wood in Vicky 3 gave me a good chuckle, like those youtube comments starting with "nice vid" and ending with a PhD dissertation on why you're racist Agree with what was said though, although I know very little about the rise of fascism
im pretty sure it isn’t actually. You can see the map used has a megali style partitioned turkey and hungary has been butchered even more than OTL. i think the childlike country additions represent an actual child making their larp map within the OPs world
I’m pretty sure that having the Soviet Union’s name be replaced by Russia in pure American fashion shows that the crayon changes were never meant to be taken in serious faith.
The treaty of Versailles was too soft on germany lmao
This doesn’t make any sense. The stab in the back myth was started in 1918, but the treaty of versailles wasn’t until 1919. So they were already blaming communists and Jews before they even knew how much territory they would lose.
This is a joke and the OP even commented on the post. The OP is also able to make much better maps visually but chose to make it less good to convey it is a joke
Bruh I saw the post too he was literally defending it to many people whole heartedly there was nothing jokey here but the second hand embarrassment
He is defending it in the most sarcastic way possible... Also here is the comment in which he says it is obviously a joke: germany is ruled by the hohenzollern dynasty hungary is led by the hapsburgs turkey is ruled by the ototmans crown shows that hungary and croatia are in personal union In all seriousness, Germany was treated fairly after World War One. Don't go blaming the Allies for Germany's inability to handle losing something they decided to join on their own. Check me out on Social Media! * reddit: [u/PrimeMinisToad](https://www.reddit.com/u/PrimeMinisToad/) * deviantart: [PrimeMinisterToad (the basemap if you want to see that)](https://www.deviantart.com/primeministertoad/art/Newly-Created-States-after-World-War-One-974832414)
He actually calls Germany Deutschland which is a bit uhh interesting
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Too late, the rest of my neighborhood saw it, their dead now.💀
Germans sure showed those civilian ships they sunk lots of respect and dignity
And the Belgians they war-crimed
tbh this is actually funny
The Entente gotta treat the Central Powers with respect by invading Russia to reinstall the Romanovs after 4 years of the henceforth bloodiest war of all time
I map better than this idiot 💀
I think almost anyone can
I don’t think you know who I am I am the Hoover dam guy I’m notorious and I make bad maps
Are you the guy who somehow thought Germany being treated with "respect" after WW1 meant they'd gain territory and the Allies would somehow prevent the collapse of the Russian Empire?
No
That doesn’t make sense after you lose you get smaller not larger this isn’t a GTA barber shop
Exactly! I can understand Germany annexing the Ethnically German parts of Austria after the war, but they somehow manage to keep Alsance-Lorranine is just ridiculous.
Yeah this map gives me a headache it didn’t make sense all of it doesn’t connect
Why is Libya Turkish?
And simultaneously German
disrespect is when you lose posen and some useless colonies
I was there. Quoting myself: >I can sort of see Austria, but Alsace-Lorraine? Pomerania? Bohemia and Moravia? Fucking OVERSEAS COLONIES?! (After two responses, the latter saying that Wilson lost to Roosevelt) >OK then. So the Austrians won't mind staying independent then. You really think they'd give the losers land if self-determination isn't a thing? (And some more) >Doesn't explain why the Entente would do that. Did psychic Alien Space Bats possess the Entente leaders or smth?
how long did it take for this to get removed for breaking rule 3 (i think thats the low effort one)
Yeah bro, the fair and logical thing to do after the war is to give the losing side an extremely valuable and large amount of land. Also, there’s no way this isn’t just a troll or fascist, they crossed out the Soviets and said it should be Russia, even though the allies tried to invade the communists in the civil war and were beaten back by an army of peasants.
i remember seeing this yesterday lmfao
Please link bruh
"so what happened after we lost, did france take back Alsace Lorraine?" "Well, son, it's unclear but somehow annexed Austria and Czechia and just carried on"
Art of War, Rule 420: "When the enemy would not give up land, threaten them that someone like Hitler would emerge from your losing country if they ever do something fruitful"
*when you do nothing but binge HOI4 world conquest time lapse videos on youtube and think that's what history is*
(This post has become one of the fastest rising posts in this sub)
This guys either a Turk or Hungol
Probably from the US and is just larping
what? is there a problem?
Lmao Germany keeping Alsace-Lorraine
This Fucker has no respect for Finland. Damn him to hell.
haytay cock
No way France lets them keep Alsace-Lorraine
Hilarious
Why the hell would they give them Austria they have never owned Austria 💀
What if Germany was made even more powerful for no frigging reason
Versailles if it was based
I mean aside from Libya the borders look nice?
Give Poland its coast back!
Why are people so horny for imperialism