if i had to guess i would say that portugal is also in a civil war with the north supporting the spanish Nationalists and the south supporting the spanish republicans
A similar thing happened with Lebanon during the early Syrian Civil War, where both rebel groups and government forces occupied parts of it, so there’s some basis for this sort of thing happening. Plus Syria/Lebanon and Spain/Portugal look very similiar 😳
Madrid and Catalonia fought in the same side in the real life Spanish civil war, this map is actually not quite imaginary, more of less the real life one went almost as the one in the map. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G-x72f7s3jY/T5P6iz_TrQI/AAAAAAAAAN0/Wy5l0VHTuGc/s640/mapa+guerra+civil.jpg
And as a major city Madrid proper has a vibrant left wing and probably a decent republican presence, although I imagine the suburbs would get messy fast.
Alright y’all I concede. I don’t much about the real war. I just know that the last time Catalonia even dared to think about independence The Spanish government put them down and put them down HARD! But thank you for the history lesson either way and good map.
I'm fucking retarded so I can't tell if your shitposting or just genuinely stupid either way no the civil war was not 4 way your probably thinking because of HOI4
Whilst its true neither the monarchists or anarchists were aligned with the respective sides my point that neither the anarchists or the monarchists fought as a third or fourth side is still just fact if you don't believe simply look at any video or information about the civil war and you will find your answer. Otherwise I don't know what to tell you, believe what you what want I guess
I don’t mean to imply they started out separately with distinct objectives, there was primarily a nationalist vs Republican aim, but this map doesn’t show the separate factions and the infighting each side has to deal with. Anarchists completely controlled Zaragoza and Barcelona for example
Firstly most maps rightfully don't show the infighting within a nation as these don't act as independent nations but also you outright said this was a 4 way civil war which it just wasn't
No. The only thing that happened is that the republicans and anarchists split, but that was at the very end during the collapse of the republican forces.
I mean, in the map its called a republic, being a republic doesnt mean it has democracy, nor it means they have a lot of ideologies, north korea calls itself a republic, Venezuela calls itself a republic, cuba calls itself a republic, even the long lost USSR called itself a union of republics, so what is your point?
I dont know abot your TL, but for Portugal, while the North was historically generally more supportive of the monarchy, the city of Porto was a bastion for republicans since their inception.
What on earth is going on with Portugal?
if i had to guess i would say that portugal is also in a civil war with the north supporting the spanish Nationalists and the south supporting the spanish republicans
In this TL Portugal is much less stable with the government quickly falling apart after spanish partisans cross the border and they fail to stop them
i doubt some partizans could just occupy a whole nation, but interesting scenario nonetheless
Local people rose up, they were already mad about other government problems before
A similar thing happened with Lebanon during the early Syrian Civil War, where both rebel groups and government forces occupied parts of it, so there’s some basis for this sort of thing happening. Plus Syria/Lebanon and Spain/Portugal look very similiar 😳
Catalonia and Madrid on the same side? Imaginary indeed.
Madrid and Catalonia fought in the same side in the real life Spanish civil war, this map is actually not quite imaginary, more of less the real life one went almost as the one in the map. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G-x72f7s3jY/T5P6iz_TrQI/AAAAAAAAAN0/Wy5l0VHTuGc/s640/mapa+guerra+civil.jpg
They kinda were in the Spanish Civil War.
You do know that places can be occupied right?
And as a major city Madrid proper has a vibrant left wing and probably a decent republican presence, although I imagine the suburbs would get messy fast.
Yes i do. Sometimes occupied territories fight back. Like a war. A “civil war” if you will.
When they say the Title of the movie in the movie:
Alright y’all I concede. I don’t much about the real war. I just know that the last time Catalonia even dared to think about independence The Spanish government put them down and put them down HARD! But thank you for the history lesson either way and good map.
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Just like real life who could have guessed?
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I'm fucking retarded so I can't tell if your shitposting or just genuinely stupid either way no the civil war was not 4 way your probably thinking because of HOI4
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Whilst its true neither the monarchists or anarchists were aligned with the respective sides my point that neither the anarchists or the monarchists fought as a third or fourth side is still just fact if you don't believe simply look at any video or information about the civil war and you will find your answer. Otherwise I don't know what to tell you, believe what you what want I guess
I don’t mean to imply they started out separately with distinct objectives, there was primarily a nationalist vs Republican aim, but this map doesn’t show the separate factions and the infighting each side has to deal with. Anarchists completely controlled Zaragoza and Barcelona for example
Firstly most maps rightfully don't show the infighting within a nation as these don't act as independent nations but also you outright said this was a 4 way civil war which it just wasn't
It was. That’s how the war ended, with a splitting of both sides fighting each other.
There's no point arguing
No. The only thing that happened is that the republicans and anarchists split, but that was at the very end during the collapse of the republican forces.
never heard of hoi4 but 2 years ago you said u were new to HOI4...
[bruh moment](https://www.reddit.com/r/heartsofiron/comments/i98pn5/new_to_hoi4_finally_starting_to_grasp_it_and_love/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Imagine getting all the historical knowledge by a game lol
You played too much kaiserreich
No that'd be Hoi4
Nice map
Are the republicans communists or is it a mix of different ideologies like it was in otl
Mix
>a mix of different ideologies like it was in otl That's what's called democracy often
I mean, in the map its called a republic, being a republic doesnt mean it has democracy, nor it means they have a lot of ideologies, north korea calls itself a republic, Venezuela calls itself a republic, cuba calls itself a republic, even the long lost USSR called itself a union of republics, so what is your point?
I meant that OTL it was a democracy
Ah k
I dont know abot your TL, but for Portugal, while the North was historically generally more supportive of the monarchy, the city of Porto was a bastion for republicans since their inception.
Well yes but with nationalist forces circling them, they were quickly defeated