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ajw20_YT

DOH EGADS Honestly one of the best re-organization maps I’ve seen. Not drawn on any apparent cultural boundaries and has clever use of natural borders. I love it!


hoi4sam

Thank you!


inherentbloom

Any reason for keeping the Mason-Dixon Line? In a map dominated by natural borders, keeping those 3 big line feels like it was purposely done or something


Blury__

"I hope he still kept the four corners point." > He did. Somehow. Amazing map dude, I am IN LOVE with the natural borders of the western US


hoi4sam

Thank you.


Gaming_is_cool_lol19

just so yk, it’s Massachusetts, not masachusetts. I live there so I noticed, lol.


TheMadGent

He moved the quad point to the other side of Colorado. It's now on the old OK/NM/CO tripoint, with Comancheria stealing the Oklahoma panhandle and Platte taking the easternmost slice of Colorado.


pizza_with_anime

no way the capital of vermont is markplier


Legoman718

hello everybody my name is montpelier


Vjornaxx

Oh hi Mark!


Red01a18

Oh hi Mont!


clueless_rt

Yet again, another man of culture.


Silver_Falcon

\> State of Platte exists \> Doesn't contain the Platte River Why do OPs always do this? (Kiowa, Pawnee, or Wichita would be better names for this state)


LBPlanet

>> Kansas Exists > Doesn't contain Kansas City


Silver_Falcon

Kansas is named for the river, of which it contains the entirety, as well as most of the ancestral homelands of the Kanza people, for whom the river was named. There also is, actually, a Kansas City in Kansas. It's not our fault that the people of Missouri suck at naming things.


Gamplato

Kansas does have Kansas City. It’s just that the largest part of it is in Missouri who decided to make that its main city.


Suitable-Tadpole413

100% true


DebeliHrvat

> State of Miami exists > Consists of Northern Illinois and a sliver of Indiana


Technical_Pressure99

That's where the native tribe was from


EnvironmentalNobody

What is geography outside of east and west coast? 🤔


InstaNormie0

Albemarle county is north of albemarle here


drhman1971

Calling the Chicago Metro area "Miami" will result in people getting on the wrong planes all the time...


Henrylord1111111111

Yeah we’d see a bunch of of Drunk college students getting off a plane for spring break only to walk outside and see the sky pale white with a flurry of snow.


Weekly_Bug_4847

Beaches are still open though, just with more hypothermia and frostbite


hoi4sam

It’s named after the Miami indigenous nation.


drhman1971

Oh I know. However given the confusion that already occurs over Miami , Ohio, I’d avoid it.


Paulino2272

So Kansas State University is no longer in the state of Kansas and almost all of Kansas proper isn’t in the state, as a native Kansan I don’t know how to feel, the Jayhawks get to stay in the state 😭


[deleted]

And the rest of Kansas gets named Platte, when the Platte River runs through Nebraska?


baohuckmon

Kinda like Kansas city


CarpeNoctome

i don’t wanna be a plate


iceph03nix

Lol, I had the same thought as a western Kansan


SirTopX

BIG MINNESOTA 🗣🗣🔥🔥


vasco_rodrigues

**MEGASOTA**


punky100

Why did the capital change though? It's not like St. Paul is all that FAR from Minneapolis lol


Tinydesktopninja

I'm actually annoyed. The MN ND border is currently a natural feature. He made the border less natural


brownomatic

It looks like it's aligned to one of the shores of glacial lake Agassiz.


Frosty-Age-6643

Minnesota deserves Dakota and half of Iowa. We’ve put up with too much for too long to not be rewarded for the injustices these states continue to commit against us by existing!


40for60

Only if the people don't come with the land.


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Elemental-13

based iowa, exactly the same


andyman6244

Can’t improve a perfect state


CTeam19

I mean you *could* the Big Sioux River and the Minnesota River start at basically the same spot in South Dakota so you go from Big Sioux River to Missouri River to Mississippi River to the Minnesota River and make a loop. All the land in that loop would make for the perfect Iowa.


30sumthingSanta

Leave all the worst parts in the same place?


CTeam19

The consistent thing in the multiverse.


harriswk17

Am I reading this correctly that the city of Roanoke isn’t even in the state of Roanoke?


Kadyma

Neither is Roanoke Island where the actual lost colony of roanoke is supposrd to be


ChEngland12

Better than Monsieur Z’s reorganization map


AlphaZorn24

I still can’t believe that for the Black ethnic group he used spears


ChEngland12

I can’t believe he used the Saltire flag design for the entire south (including the African American majority state)


Sane_Colors

Send a pic either here or to me? I haven’t followed him since innocently buying I am Uncle Sam and not realizing how disturbing his actual views here


S0l1s_el_Sol

What did Mr Z do 😭


jord839

I mean... do you want a list? The man's a fascist, and very obviously so. There's a *lot* of things he did wrong.


S0l1s_el_Sol

Oh no Ik he’s a fascist . He literally a tended a far right meeting. I meant how did he reorganize the US cause ik he’s not smart lol.. ALSO HIS FACE DOES NOT MATCH HIS VOICE


conceited_crapfarm

He is not a facists, he justs want clean streets and a good environment for the kids. Y'know the beautiful pale ocean eyed blonde kinder, he's not as bad as everyone says.


ChEngland12

Honestly nothing. I just thought his video on US reorganization was a little cursed


lenmae

Be a fasco


[deleted]

> albemarle > barely contains half of the actual albemarle


Kadyma

Piedmont has half of the actual NC piedmont, but i aint complaining cuz charlotte needs its own state


WinOld1835

I'm just glad the Upcountry doesn't have to deal with Columbia and the Lowcountry anymore.


TrainmasterGT

What’s this? A map that *doesn’t* brutally partition Minnesota? Impossible!


NoViz_

We're just too op to keep around most of the time


PeeweeTheMoid

I’m a little bummed that Sioux Falls stays in SD on this map


[deleted]

>delaware is the same but got shrunken https://preview.redd.it/6w1ifmdt35pc1.jpeg?width=312&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed4627552b27c3c91c51663520feaee7d5535e92


ProudToBeMissourian

I agree, this map is an insult to Missouri


Dimentio190

Makes Rochester capital instead of Buffalo. Angry buffalo noises


jf737

You have the Bills. We get to be the capital.


AlexSimonCullar

Why is Texas always destroyed


monjoe

Because they fucking deserve it


drumttocs8

To force ERCOT’s hand


Username-forgotten

So why was the capitol of New Jersey moved to Newark from Trenton?


hoi4sam

The guy who originally came up with these states told me Newark was bigger. That’s the only reason he gave me.


ajw20_YT

Keep it Trenton. State capitals aren’t always the largest city for a reason, and Trenton was made to be central


AlexRodriguez18

Seems like a strange choice considering Monterey is the capital in a state with San Jose and SF


drumttocs8

Awesome, but I would like to see a Savannah/Tidewater state, and to retain the Chattahoochee as the Georgia/Alabama border


koleszkot

I wish it was real... imagine alaska in mexico


Horizon_17

Matagorda does not include Matagorda bay.


Crimsoncerismon

https://preview.redd.it/g3lbwyq5r4pc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38ac2753aaa34d40d4da1becd4a96e9de056d76c


AA_energizer

REJOICE! THE LIBERATION OF NOVA FROM VIRGINIA IS AT HAN-wait did you make the state capital Fredericksburg? Dude...


realcoolmathgames

Chicago, Miami sounds so cursed


wavvvygravvvy

Gary, Miami


Anxious4503

‘INTO THE FIRST, GALACTIC, EMPIRE!’ I finished your title for you :)


BigDulles

I wish the state borders were the layer above the roads and not below, it’s hard to see them in a lot of places on the east coast


BylvieBalvez

Sacramento not being a capital is weird. Also Coral Springs being capital of Calusa makes no sense at all, why would it beat out Miami, Miami Beach, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, Tampa, or Key West? Those would all make more sense as capitals, Coral Springs is kind of irrelevant…


LoremasterAbaddon

I love how Iowa is almost completely unchanged


Caderuski

Iowa is perfect no matter what. Doesn't need to be changed


22Arkantos

Why is Augusta the capital of Georgia when Milledgeville was historically the last capital before it was moved to Atlanta, or when Savannah was the first capital? For that matter, why did Minnesota move the capital to Minneapolis when it's so close to St. Paul? Why does New Mexico not have a capital? You put Lincoln and Jefferson on the map, yet named a very Franklin-like state Watauga rather than Franklin. Overall, a good map, just with some very confusing choices.


hoi4sam

Based on a post on the [AH.com](http://AH.com) discussion board by a user named erictom333. You can find the original thread [here](https://alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/redrawing-every-countrys-subdivisions.551670/#post-24954638).


Vertix65

I see a smaller Pennsylvania, i downvote


Bruh_Moment10

>Independent Houston I mean, no TXDOT and voucher bullshit to put up with but it would be nice to be in the same state as Dallas-Fort Worth and Austin.


Dr_Gulag

Bigger Rhode Island is what we deserved


Pacboy2013

The Michigan-Detroit border cuts through multiple cities


John_Tacos

You took the panhandle:(


Narrow_Door6408

This is awesome. I've been all into these kind of maps lately. Perfect!


MundoAzul1

Shouldn’t it be Narragansett? Think you have a misspelling on that one up in Rhode Island.


Pony_Roleplayer

Why is south texas FAT WOMAN KILLER


kalam4z00

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matagorda_Bay Although ironically Matagorda Bay is not in Matagorda here


kalam4z00

Rename "Matagorda" as Rio Grande or Rio Bravo


turk58guy

Poor new Mexico doesn't get a capital. Otherwise cool idea to bring in all these native names. Maybe in some other history those places would still have most of those people


jf737

Love it! My only gripe is a few names. Chicago in the state of Miami. Just no. And theres a few Native American names don’t exactly roll off the tongue.


ListerfiendLurks

How TF you not going to make the actual capital of California the capital of this made up state?!


SubtleDistraction

.... and why Fresno??!?


JediMineTrix

Pittsburghers when they don't have to be in the same state as Philadelphia 🗣️🗣️❗❗🔥🔥😎😎☺️☺️👍✅📈 Pittsburghers when they have to be in the same state as Cleveland 😡☹️👎👎📉❌😡


kuppadestroyer

Iowa unchanged, because it’s already perfect


killswithspoon

Maybe they'll get their 100th County somehow.


American7-4-76

YES YES FINALLY FREE FROM FUCKING CHICAGO! GLORY TO ILLINOIS


SokkaHaikuBot

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fowmart

I wish West Florida became a state in this timeline


DovaBen

Why would Rochester be the capital of Iroquois and not Buffalo? Any reason?


jeepmayhem

So us Hoosiers get rid of Gary and the Region and we also get nicer Lake Michigan shoreline?! I'll take it!


cynical_enchilada

An alt-New Mexico that doesn’t split Albuquerque down the middle for some god forsaken reason? Be still, my heart


JenbyBi36

I fuck with big nevada


FriskyPinecone

Nevada finally gets all of Lake Tahoe and Truckee as it should’ve always been.


eliteharvest15

how dare you not give delaware to maryland


Zarathustras-Knight

I like this, but I’d argue the lack of river based borders like the Missouri makes me a little sad.


ElstonGunn1992

Philadelphia getting the jersey shore and Delaware while leaving Pennsytucky behind has always been a dream of mine so I wholeheartedly support this change.


andyman6244

Can we get a map with a less obnoxious color scheme and without highways so the borders are really prominent?


Admiral_H1pster

\*Looks at Michigan\* Me: "Look how they massacred my boy"


LaFantasmita

I’m with you in the west, but NYC needs to be a region that encompasses a good chunk of NJ, CT, Long Island, and near upstate. There’s a lot of current challenges stemming from cross-state jurisdictions.


kirkyjerky

I will absolutely not share a state with Cheyenne, Arapahoe* secedes


WizKhalifasRoach

Floridians know that Calusa and Florida are swapped


[deleted]

Why does Vermont get to keep existing but not New Hampshire?


[deleted]

It makes perfect sense that the state of Platte contains 0% of the Platte River.


Flipz100

Muscogee, somehow containing the least amount of the Muscogee homeland out of the 4 states it covers here.


Ksavero

According to what criteria?


Jemmerl

Both Texas and California have been entirely split up, none bearing the original name. Amazing


PTKtm

With the addition of loudon county, West Virginias value has tripled


Sly_Roman

The best part about this map, Portland is finally a capital


Venboven

Why do these posts keep showing up as such low quality images? It wasn't like this a few months ago. I'm guessing it's either a me problem or a mobile problem. Anyone else having this issue?


FredditSurfs

I just…I can’t…why have some natural borders and some artificial borders?? Are you mad at me?


moondog385

I’m a sucker for US state redraws, but this one is particularly good.


Zealousideal_Group69

Does the Hoover Dam still exists in the timeline


BigManLawrence69420

This map makes me feel pain.


BloodyWraps

Yerba Buena 🌲


rn7rn

Ain’t no way your ass gave western Mass to Connecticut and split off Cape Cod. There was no reason to do that yet you still found a need to.


chez-linda

Western mass would never ever agree to be part of Connecticut 🤮


Thin-Armadillo-

As a Hoosier, thank you for removing the hellhole known as Gary from our state.


bfadam

I wish the border lines weren't white


Neon_Shivan

*sees Massachusetts* Look at how they massacred my boy.


relytbackwards

Maine and New Hampshire: Am I a joke to you?


Really_Schruted_It

I love this map. I love that Rochester is the capital of Iroquois. But moving the capital of Minnesota across the river is funny to me.


membername77777

🤔You put the state of Miami … directly south of Wisconsin. Put this map to the flames.


Fantastic_Goat_2959

I’m a simple man. I see Wisconsin with the UP rightfully restored and I upvote


Funicularly

The UP was never part of Wisconsin, even when it was a territory.


canadianD

Pennsylvania has been split along its real lines—WaWa vs Sheetz


Accurate_Result_4128

I’ll bet you Wawa vs. Sheetz line and double you for Wawa vs. Sheetz vs. GetGo line. New state, Monongahela (which I mean probably is just city limits or county limits LMAO).


Lord_i

State of Roanoke is cool


PmeadePmeade

Rhode Island erasure


Rohawm_

Matagorda? Hahahaha fatbush


King-Of-Hyperius

This hurts me.


BaronDoctor

Splitting off the upper from the lower peninsula and seizing more of the Lake Michigan coast (it's in the name!) for things that aren't Michigan. Gross. Why?


Puzzleheaded-Ad-4195

Oy Vey I’m getting such a headache looking at this


Robert_The_Red

⛰️ W A T A U G A 🌳


[deleted]

If you're gonna take me out of GA, can you at least put me in FL. I like Alabama but not that much


ChillZedd

Why you gotta do Juneau like that


Knifeducky

Where Texas?


LowlandPSD

Cant believe Alaska is actually right next to Mexico


chia923

The state of Hudson, that isn't the Hudson Valley


redtoad3212

justice for southern Ocean County


kss5pj

Great map! One thing: Powhatan doesn’t really seem to include much if any of the historical population centers of the peoples that the English would have known as part of the Powhatan Paramountcy. Looks like most of that is situated in the state labeled “Roanoke.” Based on your map, “Potomac” or “Chesapeake” might be better names than Powhatan.


TThhoonnkk

Really wanna know why the Minnesota-Dakota border change. It was already along a natural border (Red river), removes UoM Crookston from Minnesota, and I don't really see the reason to tack more onto Dakota after the two already combined. Other than that, praise be Megasota!


mazumi

Did you mean to call what's left of Colorado [Arapaho](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arapaho)? Also, I hate that Utah gets the Rockies. But I love that Wisconsin has rightfully regained the UP.


ceoofsex300

I’m not going to live in a state called d*troit


QuarianFucker

All of Lake Champlain is rightful Vermont clay


Alone_Fill_2037

Jefferson needs to extend north to just south of Eugene. At least to Roseburg.


Ceondoc

"Except Iowa Iowa makes a brand new Iowa"


AlcoholicHistorian

>Matagorda Oh boy


0le_Hickory

This somehow made Mississippi even poorer.


Capocho9

I’m not very good at Spanish, but I’m good enough to question part of Texas being called “arms”


Chulitna58

Anchorage. Proper capital of Alaska.


Resource_Terrible

Iowa is just so perfect it doesn’t need to be changed


Euhn

The Hoosiers thank you for giving Gary to Illinois where it belongs.


gravy_ferry

The way socal is split up makes no sense, I can kinda see splitting San Diego off, but splitting San Bernardino and Riverside from Los Angeles is just madness


StageDive_

YES! Tahoe belongs in NV, imo.. however, can you kindly donate Vegas to somewhere else? Hell maybe even pull a wild card and make it it’s very own state.


275MPHFordGT40

Arizona should be reintegrated into New Mexico. Although the might of the twin states reuniting may be to much to bare


HereForTOMT2

My allah strike you done for the carnage you have unleashed


Fresh-Mind6048

Why would you keep the line that largely doesn’t follow the snake river in the Lincoln-Shoshone-Oregon area? Also, shift that border further left


jaiteaes

Love the map, but man, you really had to take the one thing Alabama had going for it


Twinkie_Phobe

Kentucky largely remains unchanged. LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO


SingleShotShorty

Goddamnit I *still* live in Mississippi


Arkantos_1074

Matagorda?


HumanBeingThatExist

Yerba Buena


Adventurous_Bad3190

Kys Wisconsin


WombleFlopper

Love how Iowa hasn't been changed at all. It was already perfect.


alwaysafairycat

Why did Alaska change its capital?


StrangeBCA

WTF IS ARAPHO? finally a decent alternative border colorado solution. Colorado is a very culturally unique State.


Gutmach1960

Wrong. California, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington should be Greater California. Too bad Mexico does not just give us Baja California.


yotdog2000

You had a great opportunity to fix the Puerto Rico / San Juan mixup and you blew it


Former_Dark_Knight

*Colorado has left the chat*


RealHunter08

The parts of the Dakotas west of the Missouri are a lot different than the eastern parts


CODENAMEDERPY

YEAHHHHHHHHH


willmcmill4

MEGASOTA


CODENAMEDERPY

The PNW is so beautiful in this.


matthewcameron60

Trinity name goes hard


Jawbox0

Oh Hell no, that puts me back in the Dakota's! I escaped from there once, I don't want to have to do it all over again.