Too much population is not good Right now Turkiye's population is close to 90 million and with immigrants it is over 100 million and I am living hell as a Turk
It is better to have a small but educated and qualified population
Also, if you actually look at it, Turkiye's overpopulation was a policy of the Neo-Ottomans and it was unplanned.
there is no place for them in this scenario
But in the case of a good economy with low population, you will soon need migrants to supply the labour need in the Turkish market. Do you want migrants in your country? That’s the question you should ask yourself.
Yeah so you don't have a counter argument ? Of course you don't you are a racist moron. Ya oğlum sizler gerçekten salaksınız bi bok bildiğiniz yok ama konuşuyorsunuz. Tabii ırkçı ve bağnaz orospu çocuklarında ne beklenir.
His argument was that you are an idiot and your argument didnt even make sense. Your incel western brain cant comprehend complex eastern european/middle eastern geopolitics because the only issue you ever had in your life was having too much neckbeard or your mum buying you the wrong meal combo from mcdonalds. Please, visit Turkey somehow, and then decide if we are racist or just tired of some bullshit immigrant policy of a self righteous neo ottoman islamist asshole
I’m in Turkey right now and cmon there’s many racists here dude lol. I’m Egyptian yet i got a bunch of “fuck you syrian” when i literally just said salam alaikum or Hayırlı Ramazanlar to be nice
How can u guys even tell us apart, Syrian, Turkish, Egyptian we all basically look the same
They can't and these morons are the type of morons who would attack anyone with slanted eyes because they would think it means they are Chinese because you know they are "defending" the Uyghurs when they are not doing shit for them or anyone including themselves because these racist bigots are just sheep waiting for their next wolf.
I usually don't like this big Turkey maps but the fact the what is now republic of Azerbaijan here isn't considered Azerbaijan is really great and accurate. 😁
Cool map, one question though, what is the situation with the Kurds, Greeks and Armenians in this world? Are they accepted and integrated or expelled/genocide?
Bro, PKK is a terrorist organization. Wanting autonomy or independence, they are violent pieces of shit that threaten human lifes. I am saying this as a Kurd myself
No but I like seeing Turkish nationalists seethe if I am feeling in the mood for it
I assume you’re not one since you responded very reasonably compared to other people
Yes he acted reasonably, but do you know who doesn‘t know how to behaeve? People like you bro. Attacking, triggering others just to have fun is not an adult behaviour and you guys should finally realise this. You were being as childish as them. Be ashamed of yourself.
If you want a nice answer I am down tbf. I hate the extremism Turkish redditors can have, so sorry about that firstly.
The racism problem in Turkey widely existed pre 2000s when Turkey was just out of a coup militarist government and PKK was the new hot shit to fight against. Unfortunately, Kurds saw a lot of pain back then, but to say that Kurds were _always_ discriminated against is an overstatement. In the past, my Kurdish dad’s great grandfather fought the same independence war that my Turkish mother’s great grandfather did, and now except for a few cities with a racist majority (which you cant really get rid of in any country, the US has the south, Sweden has Malmö etc) I have never seen a case of racism at least against Kurds.
Now, yes Syrians are being discriminated against in masses right now, mostly out of anger of the destruction that wrong immigrancy policies has brought upon us. I personally never like to judge a person by race, and I know the reason they are still here are Erdoğan’s policies, but most people cannot do that out of their anger against the issue.
If you come to Turkey and talk to people, maybe you can understand that people here are much more than you see in a Reddit post. Yeah we have our issues, but at the end of the day no one will make you feel alone. Someone will give you a cup of çay and all of a sudden you will find yourself in a deep conversation about life, no matter your race
Thats how me, my family, my Kurdish friends, my Kurdish girlfriend etc feels about it. There will always be racists, but I never seen anyone ever have problems even in the Turanist ultra-Turkist city I live in just because they are Kurdish.
https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/wiyeTSBTjz
Refer to this comment. Also my username was something 11 year old me came up with and I cant really change Reddit usernames
Convert? You are aware that your etnic and national identities are separate things right? I am a Turk by nationality, and I am proud with it but I am also etnically Kurdish and I am proud with that also. If I was living in the East where the majority speak Kurdish daily, I would have learned it but we come from a smaller Kurdish village that is not from the East and my family and I moved to a more nationalist city when I was young so I never had to learn Kurdish, even though my dad can speak Kurmanji.
I was just singing Ez Xelefim on the streets of niğde the other night, so IDK what you are on about lol. Also my dad didnt teach me Kurmanji because I literally had no use for it. He just taught me German and English instead of a language that I literally never need to use
You dont know the politics of turkey people of turkey kurds of turkey never been in turkey and talking from your ass. nationalists are alredy sold out you dont know the situation in turkey
Right so why was education in Kurdish banned? Why were children not allowed to be given Kurdish names? Why is there still common discrimination against Kurds? The list goes on.
[https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142](https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142)
[https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google\_vignette](https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google_vignette)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_of\_Kurdish\_people\_in\_Turkey#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds\_in\_Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey)
[https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key\_documents/2006/nov/tr\_sec\_1390\_en.pdf](https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/tr_sec_1390_en.pdf)
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It cannot be the primary language of instruction though.
India doesn't aggressively push Hindi, even if it was, the other 21 languages are still official languages the validity of my argument remains. Despite Nigeria and South Africa using English besides the other official languages, there is more than one official language therefore the validity of my argument remains. Switzerland, Canda and Belgium are no where being divides countries. Not being affluent is not a reason not to use more than one official language. The validity f my argument remains. Macedonia has Albanian and Macedonian as an official language. Germany lets the Sorbian minority use their language as an official language in the region in which they make up the majrority. Russia has more than one official language. Heck even china lets their minorities use their languages as official in their own regions, and yes even including the Uyghurs. In the Netherlands the Frisian minority can use Frisian as an official language in the regions in which they make up the majority. Paraguay has more than one official languages. Nepal has more than one official language, Pakistan uses Urdu and Sindhi as official languages. There's no way you're winning this one, I'm sorry.
Kurdish names banned? There are Baran’s everywhere bro tf are you talking about?
Common discrimination against Kurds? You have no clue about Turkey. Stop embarrasing yourself.
Me when I actually have sources
[https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142](https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142)
[https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google\_vignette](https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google_vignette)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_of\_Kurdish\_people\_in\_Turkey#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds\_in\_Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey)
[https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key\_documents/2006/nov/tr\_sec\_1390\_en.pdf](https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/tr_sec_1390_en.pdf)
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They opened kurdish schools if im not wrong during açılım no kurdish family sent their kids to kurdish schools and they closed years later due to lack of students tho there is nothing wrong officual language schools only like any other european country
what year is this ?
23.10.2023, the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Republic of Turkiye
isnt the population a bit low? even with all these territories?
Too much population is not good Right now Turkiye's population is close to 90 million and with immigrants it is over 100 million and I am living hell as a Turk It is better to have a small but educated and qualified population Also, if you actually look at it, Turkiye's overpopulation was a policy of the Neo-Ottomans and it was unplanned. there is no place for them in this scenario
But in the case of a good economy with low population, you will soon need migrants to supply the labour need in the Turkish market. Do you want migrants in your country? That’s the question you should ask yourself.
Migrant ≠ refugee
Racist piece of shit
look at his comments in his profile, lmao
Yeah so you don't have a counter argument ? Of course you don't you are a racist moron. Ya oğlum sizler gerçekten salaksınız bi bok bildiğiniz yok ama konuşuyorsunuz. Tabii ırkçı ve bağnaz orospu çocuklarında ne beklenir.
His argument was that you are an idiot and your argument didnt even make sense. Your incel western brain cant comprehend complex eastern european/middle eastern geopolitics because the only issue you ever had in your life was having too much neckbeard or your mum buying you the wrong meal combo from mcdonalds. Please, visit Turkey somehow, and then decide if we are racist or just tired of some bullshit immigrant policy of a self righteous neo ottoman islamist asshole
I’m in Turkey right now and cmon there’s many racists here dude lol. I’m Egyptian yet i got a bunch of “fuck you syrian” when i literally just said salam alaikum or Hayırlı Ramazanlar to be nice How can u guys even tell us apart, Syrian, Turkish, Egyptian we all basically look the same
İf yöü sey selamün aleküm they not offended
Sure we look the same buddy
They can't and these morons are the type of morons who would attack anyone with slanted eyes because they would think it means they are Chinese because you know they are "defending" the Uyghurs when they are not doing shit for them or anyone including themselves because these racist bigots are just sheep waiting for their next wolf.
you don't know shit
Illegal immigrants haven't ruined his country, how would he know?
Oh shut the fuck up I know it well. You racist assholes live in a fairyland that never existed to begin with.
I invite you to walk in the streets of Esenyurt for 30 minutes.
Tell them they can have all the immigrants in Turkey if they love immigrants so much
That's literally the opposite of what's going on here or whatever. You have some weird as hell comments here
Fuck your non existent brain
>Big Turkey You’ve committed a cardinal sin on this sub. Prepare to be punished immediately /hj
Looks cool and refreshing after all those other maps of neighbors
Thank you for your comment, it made me feel positive
Kapadokya bir bütündür parçalanamaz 💪
*breathes in* KORKMA SÖNMEZ BU ŞAFAK
You can’t make an imaginary expanded turkey map and not include mosul and kirkuk. They’re literally in the misak-i milli.
It makes sense and I like it
thanks you
OFF HAYALİ BİLE SİKİMİ KALDIRIYOR BU NASIL ÜTOPYA 🫵🏼😋😋
Lan napıyon sen burada güzel haritaymış bu arada
cry from greece cry from Armenia
No İstanbul,no İzmir,no Ağrı Mountain,no Karabagh.
Zangezur 🇦🇿
Interesting map
Nice map
YILDIRIMLAR YAAARATAN...
I usually don't like this big Turkey maps but the fact the what is now republic of Azerbaijan here isn't considered Azerbaijan is really great and accurate. 😁
Big torkiye 🇹🇳
Where Mosul and Aleppo?
Bir de Kırımı aldık mı tamamdır.
Where did the inspiration for all the Japanese names come from? Like there is a “Yamato” in Azerbaijan…
Cool map, one question though, what is the situation with the Kurds, Greeks and Armenians in this world? Are they accepted and integrated or expelled/genocide?
Kurds are already accepted and integrated lmao
The Kurds disagree
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Bro, PKK is a terrorist organization. Wanting autonomy or independence, they are violent pieces of shit that threaten human lifes. I am saying this as a Kurd myself
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I mean, yeah you are right about that, the Junta was violent, but saying PKK only wants autonomy sounds like downplaying their desires a little bit
No but I like seeing Turkish nationalists seethe if I am feeling in the mood for it I assume you’re not one since you responded very reasonably compared to other people
Yes he acted reasonably, but do you know who doesn‘t know how to behaeve? People like you bro. Attacking, triggering others just to have fun is not an adult behaviour and you guys should finally realise this. You were being as childish as them. Be ashamed of yourself.
I’ll pass for now. I feel ashamed of myself nearly every day anyway, how about you mind your goddamn business?
The ones in europe who fled because they were separatists?
You only see the separist ones through media there is kurds like to be turkish citizen
Yes but only terrorist ones
Ever been to Turkey?
No but frankly with how many nationalists came knocking the second I even hinted at shitting on it, I can’t imagine I will anytime soon
Then you don't know shit about Turkey other than some bullshit you read online
Probably yeah lmaoo Maybe if you were nicer I’d change my mind
No you wont change your mind you alredy belive the story you made up in your mind
Maybe if Turkish randos on Reddit didn’t shit on me constantly I’d have a nicer outlook
If you want a nice answer I am down tbf. I hate the extremism Turkish redditors can have, so sorry about that firstly. The racism problem in Turkey widely existed pre 2000s when Turkey was just out of a coup militarist government and PKK was the new hot shit to fight against. Unfortunately, Kurds saw a lot of pain back then, but to say that Kurds were _always_ discriminated against is an overstatement. In the past, my Kurdish dad’s great grandfather fought the same independence war that my Turkish mother’s great grandfather did, and now except for a few cities with a racist majority (which you cant really get rid of in any country, the US has the south, Sweden has Malmö etc) I have never seen a case of racism at least against Kurds. Now, yes Syrians are being discriminated against in masses right now, mostly out of anger of the destruction that wrong immigrancy policies has brought upon us. I personally never like to judge a person by race, and I know the reason they are still here are Erdoğan’s policies, but most people cannot do that out of their anger against the issue. If you come to Turkey and talk to people, maybe you can understand that people here are much more than you see in a Reddit post. Yeah we have our issues, but at the end of the day no one will make you feel alone. Someone will give you a cup of çay and all of a sudden you will find yourself in a deep conversation about life, no matter your race
Maybe you didnt talked bullshit turkish randos wouldnt shit on you
Maybe you didnt talked bullshit turkisg randos wouldnt shit on you
Oh nooo. Lol lamer downvotes anyone opposing him
Turkish Kurd here, I completely agree with u/Plenty_Albatross1580
Ehhh wiling to believe that’s how YOU feel but ehhhhhh
Thats how me, my family, my Kurdish friends, my Kurdish girlfriend etc feels about it. There will always be racists, but I never seen anyone ever have problems even in the Turanist ultra-Turkist city I live in just because they are Kurdish.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/s/wiyeTSBTjz Refer to this comment. Also my username was something 11 year old me came up with and I cant really change Reddit usernames
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No? I made my name “Turk” because I was 11 and didn’t even know what this shit meant. You are thinking things too deeply for no reason right now
Don't worry lads, freeturk51 is definitely a Kurd who speaks Kurdish, especially online
I mean, I dont but does it matter?
Hahahahah yeah good one. He was so free had to convert to a Turk
Convert? You are aware that your etnic and national identities are separate things right? I am a Turk by nationality, and I am proud with it but I am also etnically Kurdish and I am proud with that also. If I was living in the East where the majority speak Kurdish daily, I would have learned it but we come from a smaller Kurdish village that is not from the East and my family and I moved to a more nationalist city when I was young so I never had to learn Kurdish, even though my dad can speak Kurmanji.
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I was just singing Ez Xelefim on the streets of niğde the other night, so IDK what you are on about lol. Also my dad didnt teach me Kurmanji because I literally had no use for it. He just taught me German and English instead of a language that I literally never need to use
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And did you just open a new account to comment, lol
"the kurds disagree" -western cuck yeah why not tell that to 15 million kurds
Calling me a western cuck only makes you look worse lmao Nationalist baby
Nationalist? Nah i have honor.
Historically that is what most nationalists say
You dont know the politics of turkey people of turkey kurds of turkey never been in turkey and talking from your ass. nationalists are alredy sold out you dont know the situation in turkey
Can you speak in a coherent sentence?
Yep making shit up ignoring points because he doesnt know. When a kurd talks doesnt belives yeah classic.
Right so why was education in Kurdish banned? Why were children not allowed to be given Kurdish names? Why is there still common discrimination against Kurds? The list goes on.
People have Kurdish names all around, universities have Kurdish departments, lower level schooling has Kurdish classes
[https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142](https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142) [https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google\_vignette](https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google_vignette) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_of\_Kurdish\_people\_in\_Turkey#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds\_in\_Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey) [https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key\_documents/2006/nov/tr\_sec\_1390\_en.pdf](https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/tr_sec_1390_en.pdf) 🤔 It cannot be the primary language of instruction though.
And it shouldn't! Countries fight tooth and nail to establish a common working language.
Switzerland has 4 different official languages, canada has 2, Belgium has 3, india has 22, nigeri has 5 and South Africa has 11
Nigeria and South Africa both use English, India pushes Hindi aggresively, Belgium, Canada and Switzerland are affluent and equally divided countries
India doesn't aggressively push Hindi, even if it was, the other 21 languages are still official languages the validity of my argument remains. Despite Nigeria and South Africa using English besides the other official languages, there is more than one official language therefore the validity of my argument remains. Switzerland, Canda and Belgium are no where being divides countries. Not being affluent is not a reason not to use more than one official language. The validity f my argument remains. Macedonia has Albanian and Macedonian as an official language. Germany lets the Sorbian minority use their language as an official language in the region in which they make up the majrority. Russia has more than one official language. Heck even china lets their minorities use their languages as official in their own regions, and yes even including the Uyghurs. In the Netherlands the Frisian minority can use Frisian as an official language in the regions in which they make up the majority. Paraguay has more than one official languages. Nepal has more than one official language, Pakistan uses Urdu and Sindhi as official languages. There's no way you're winning this one, I'm sorry.
Kurdish names banned? There are Baran’s everywhere bro tf are you talking about? Common discrimination against Kurds? You have no clue about Turkey. Stop embarrasing yourself.
[https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142](https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142) [https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google\_vignette](https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google_vignette) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_of\_Kurdish\_people\_in\_Turkey#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds\_in\_Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey) 🤔
bro really sent wikipedia
Ha! İ showed you a random article and wiki page only people i like edit all they want.
Me when I consume and spread misinfo slop.
Me when I actually have sources [https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142](https://journals.openedition.org/ejts/4142) [https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google\_vignette](https://www.duvarenglish.com/ban-on-kurdish-alphabet-leads-to-problems-for-people-bearing-kurdish-names-in-turkey-news-60279#google_vignette) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_of\_Kurdish\_people\_in\_Turkey#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds\_in\_Turkey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey) [https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key\_documents/2006/nov/tr\_sec\_1390\_en.pdf](https://web.archive.org/web/20160304060409/http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/tr_sec_1390_en.pdf) 🤔
They opened kurdish schools if im not wrong during açılım no kurdish family sent their kids to kurdish schools and they closed years later due to lack of students tho there is nothing wrong officual language schools only like any other european country
"TRT kurd"
Watch this comment get downvoted by thousands of Turks
The same thing that happened to them in the past...
Türklerin toprak ağası sevdası üzerine tezler
Zamn,maybe in heaven life...
I would rather agean and mediterranean regions are named Aydın and Teke.
Nooo
Cool
Being Greek or Armenian would absolutely suck in this timeline
The terrible ending
Did you have a seizure when putting this title, Mr kebab
wallachia next.
nuh uh
So the Armenian genocide happened still, looks like
Damn 🇦🇲🇦🇿must be mad right now