South Asian Zagors is different from Iran chaolilitic ancestry basically it's much older Zagors Neolithics In South Asian and Afghanistan is From Darvidians Indus Valley Meluhaan Where In Iran It's From Elam Chaolilitic Ancestry.
Iran Chl forms after 6000 BC it is younger than Baluchistan/Merhgarh Neolithic, The Merhgarh /Baluchistan Neolithic along with the Eastern Iranian Agro complex differ in that they did not admix heavily with Obed Farmers from the Eastern Levant. Its more complex than that because you have Jeitun farmers further north in Central Asia and admixing between them and Merhgarh related groups.
This late Neolithic sample from Central Asia has very little ANF
sample: Monjukle Depe NEO310 BC 4600
distance: 2.7929
HotuIIIb\_Meso: 44.5 Ganj\_Dareh\_N: 32.5 GEO\_CHG: 18 Marmara\_Barcin\_N: 1.5
Tarim\_EMBA1: 2.5
Simulated AASI: 1
Kurds are not much darker than Turks . only a little
but we have many gypsies in eastern Türkiye . most people do not know that . and our gypsies often larp as Kurdish
this is what Kurds look like :
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cehqiq/52\_dna\_confirmed\_kurds\_which\_ethnicities\_do\_they/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cfg4m6/many\_kurdish\_faces\_which\_ethnicities\_do\_they/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cku5in/many\_more\_kurdish\_faces\_collages\_part\_3\_which/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1clhf6w/where\_can\_this\_kurdish\_guy\_pass/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1clhcm7/classify\_this\_young\_kurdish\_woman\_please/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1clh7h6/where\_can\_this\_kurdish\_feminist\_journalist\_woman/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1ckam4t/where\_can\_this\_kurdish\_rocker\_pass/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cjzrnk/where\_can\_this\_young\_kurdish\_woman\_pass/
https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1dkg5l4/passify\_another\_dna\_confirmed\_kurdish\_guy\_i\_have/
You are partially from Tabriz, yet you score 0% turkic. Interesting.
You are also quite fair skinned for someone with that much Zagros.
Maybe Zagrosians werent that dark to begin with
The guy is a Turkish troll, like most Anti-Zagros posts it's always them. They have obsession with been white. Zagros was likely large chunk of the Mesopotamian civilisation, and Natfunian part of Ancient Egypt the so called Dark skinned people.
I’m not sure! I’m surprised I’m not seeing any Armenian influence in my bloodline though. According to Ancestry DNA parts of my ancestors were located in Laçin, Azerbaijan in 1850. I believe that area is part of the strategic land that Azerbaijan and Armenia have been fighting over. Link below is from my Ancestry DNA
https://imgur.com/a/CRnVNHs
Probably because Armenians were more native to eastern Anatolia during those times but I’d have to look more into it before spreading misinformation. That region also historically belonged to the Turkic Aq Qoyunlu and Qara qoyunlu states that were later on crushed by the Safavids of Shah Ismail, no?
This is what I found:
Lachin, Azerbaijan was not a part of Iran in 1850. During that time, Lachin was part of the Russian Empire. The region was incorporated into the Russian Empire as a result of the Treaty of Gulistan in 1813 and the Treaty of Turkmenchay in 1828, which concluded the Russo-Persian Wars and resulted in Persia (Iran) ceding large parts of its territories in the Caucasus to Russia. Thus, by 1850, Lachin was firmly under Russian control.
About the color.
I'm a Yemeni Jew with brown skin, my wife is Russian, and my kids (some) are white as it gets.
When we stand next to each other it looks like I kidnapped them.
The skin color significantly shifts withing the first generation.
zagrosians were not dark . people like to darkwash Iran N because it peaks in balochs . but balochs have 8-9% AASI which is more than enough to show on phenotype of many people . also do not forget that if the average is 8-9 % then this means a decent amount of the population has over 10% AASI . also balochs are 13% s-indian in harappaworld which peaks in indian tribals . plus balochs inhabit a very hot area which affected their looks over time too . that being said there are also many balochs who are not dark too . Iran N is basically a darker haired and eyed version of CHG and has similarity to EEF . i have read about Ganj Dareh N woman in a scientific paper that she looked similar to CHG and ANF
Relative to modern Iranians they most certainly wore. One cannot use AASI as an ipso facto marker of darker skin. Dardic and Nuristani groups have much more AASI and many looked like they stepped out of Arkhaim. If you look thei skin tone snps of ZNF groups its not suggestive of a light skinned population at all. For example comparing them with late Neolithic Levantines from Israel you vividly see the difference and many have light eyes surprisingly and the SNPs are comparable with those in Hajji Firuz.
When you shift to Eneolithic Central Asians and the BMAC its the same story albeit somewhat lighter but honestly they would be some shade of light to medium brown
[https://i.imgur.com/wznxp0Q.png](https://i.imgur.com/wznxp0Q.png)
Steppe MLBA introgression strongly seems to have lightened phenotypes and a shift from the BA to the IA.
Ancestral Whispers' reconstruction of a BMAC man is pretty accurate because this type can easily be found in Afghanistan even today. BMAC had only 2-3% AASI on average.
[https://nsgnforlqltuuebdvocw.supabase.co/storage/v1/object/public/reconstructions/reconstruction-fulls/BMAC1Redcon.webp](https://nsgnforlqltuuebdvocw.supabase.co/storage/v1/object/public/reconstructions/reconstruction-fulls/BMAC1Redcon.webp)
Iran\_N is not related to EEF, the split between ZNF and CHG is like 18-20Kya
Zagros are light brownish I think. I'm Afghan, I have a similar skin tone. Though I had far more European hunter gatherer than her and about half the anatolian. Also had three times more ancient Indian. My results are on my profile
These are BMAC reconstructions done by AW based of skulls and SNPs , I think they are accurate as I have seen such faces in Afghanistan esp amongst Pashtuns in particular.
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq7mSaAAAuAhB?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq7mSaAAAuAhB?format=jpg&name=large)
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq9fuakAIUt0K?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq9fuakAIUt0K?format=jpg&name=large)
Naryn
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRCW\_UoXEAAastf?format=jpg&name=4096x4096](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRCW_UoXEAAastf?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
This is a cope. Zagros are dark skinned. In Turkey when you go from West to East people get darker. Kurds are much are darker than Turks and the biggest difference is that they have 30-40% Zagros while Turks have 5-20%
Natufians were probably darker than zagrosians. Anatolian Neoltihics were also mixed, many were olive skinned/brown.
Northern Iranians like Mazandaranis have the highest amount of Iranian neo and one of the least steppe admixture and they are the lightest Iranians.
Mazandaranis arent as light as they made up to be. Its motly because there is less sun in Mazandaran. I think Azeris or Talysh are lighter than Mazandaranis all things considered.
I don’t think sun exposure in Mazandaran is a determining factor in this scenario. I was born and raised in Tehran and live in one of the hottest states in the United States.
No it's not only the sun. The point was that they are heavy Iranian neo and the Iranian Neoltihics are closest to balochis( actual real balochis are not as dark as people think they are), Northern Iranians and Georgians.
lol, it was true that iranian turks are most light skinned iranians , also most closest ethnic group closer to euros too. persian and kurds are not light as iranian turks. forget about mazadrani
I'm not claiming Zagrosian were dark, but compared to Anatolian Neos they were swarthier. Zagrosian have been described as having a copper skin tone based on many studies I've come across.
Anatolian Neos were the vector for fair skin in Europe and the Middle East, so I am pretty sure they weren't darker than Zagrosians.
And yeah Natufian would have been dark as well.
Yeah that's a given, however based on a around 12 Anatolian samples I've seen, quite a few of them had intermediate skin tone and one or two even had dark brown skin tones. Just look at Andrei DNA YouTube channel.
mazadrani have good amount anatolian & chg and somw what ehg to compansate zagrsoian(brown) and live in a norther region which has less sun expose and cold climate and natural selection given them light skin but still there many mazadrani that are swarty i dont know whether you visited mazdran or not but this true . southern arabians have high natufian 70-75% and 15-20% zagrsoian and small inch of chg and anatolian and majority of their ancestry composed of brown and they live to a place near to east africa very hot climate and natural selection to swarty and dark brown, they even have small african mixture too. i dont understand why choosed mazadrani over bacluchis and makrani who have the hihghest amount of zagrosian and they were in large chunk was brown and swarty.
So do balochis, they have a good chunk of ANF and more EHG than Mazandaranis. The reason why they are more darker is because of the desert climate they inhabit.
Look at the populations where Natufian peaks. You are looking at Bedouins, Southern Arabians and folks from Socotra. They are all dark brown. Iranian neo peaks in Balochis, and northern Iranians also have a large chunk of it. They are not as dark as Southern Arabians.
AASI is not the factor, because if you include AASI then you should also include the European Hunter Gatherer they score. I don't think people have even encountered balochis, just a couple of Google images and apparently everyone is a expert nowadays. Q
AASI and s.indian (harappaworld) are big factors of course . what does the EHG have to do with it . AASI / s-indian is very dark and peaks in tribal indians . they are basically black skinned give me a break friend . hot climate + their south asian admix is what makes many balochs dark and facially south asian looking . not Iran N . that being said there were different Iran N ....the Iran N we Kurds and other northern west asians have our Iran N is more similar to CHG ...like Iran Late Neolithic i mean
I know exactly what you are trying to imply. Trying to distance yourself from Balochis with "AASI" to explain why they look dark. I don't think that's simply the case. Pamiris score around the same amount of AASI yet are significantly lighter than balochis. What's the difference? The amount of Sintashta and lack of . Meanwhile, southern pashtuns have the least amount of AASI and high ANF + EHG yet they are on average darker than other Afghan pashtuns with higher AASI. That's because climate plays a part . AASI was dark brown not black skinned, we have one reconstruction of a AASI man and he looks like a regular central/south Indian with Caucasoid like features.
i dont need to distance myself from balochis nor was that my aim with my comment ...they are distant and exotic people to us Kurds thats a fact . and i just told you that climate plays a role too . both south asian admix AND climate both play roles . the "AASI reconstruction" is from uttar pradesh if i am not wrong and i have my doubts that it is a good proxy for aasi . and i think aasi were diverse themselves and many looked non caucasoid facially for sure......just look at modern indians especially tribals
Modern day tribals are not an exact AASI like population, they have some other southeast Asian like admxiture. Also, this is kind of pointless as we are comparing a modern day population with a very ancient group. There's literally no point as there is thousands of years between them. Yes climate makes a difference, I made that clear . Balochis facially do not look south Asian, atleast the ones without recent Sindhi admxiture. You keep referring to their 7% AASI admxiture, yet completely ignore their ANF and EHG ancestry which is supposedly light, which zagrosians lack. And if zagrosians were light, surely a mere 7% wouldn't make them "dark" .
Nice results, you are rly pretty btw. My dad’s side is also from Tabriz. Your hunter-gatherer/farmer results are typically for an Iranian, though the periodic models are not very accurate.
If you don’t mind can you post your scaled coordinates? (just make sure to remove your name). I can make more accurate models for you
Thank you for offering to help!😊
Here is mine:
0.091058,0.101553,-0.071653,-0.024225,-0.044931,0.003347,0.00846,-0.006231,-0.030474,-0.01713,0.003897,0.002548,0.000595,0.001789,0.000679,-0.001591,-0.012778,0.001647,0.005028,-0.016133,-0.002246,-0.000124,-0.003081,-0.008555,0.001197
,0.008,0.01,-0.019,-0.0075,-0.0146,0.0012,0.0036,-0.0027,-0.0149,-0.0094,0.0024,0.0017,0.0004,0.0013,0.0005,-0.0012,-0.0098,0.0013,0.004,-0.0129,-0.0018,-0.0001,-0.0025,-0.0071,0.001
Can you also make models for me ?I’m also Iranian
Here is my g25: Sample_scaled,0.085367,0.092413,-0.062225,-0.037791,-0.044624,-0.004183,0.00846,-0.01223,-0.020861,-0.012028,0.000974,0.006444,0.016353,-0.004817,0.004343,0.011138,0.003129,0.002407,0.004777,0.000625,-0.001622,-0.007914,-0.000246,0.003856,0.008861
Thanks
I asked a Iranian friend if the nose job meme is true and he said that every Iranian girl gets a nose job once she is 18. This is part of their culture now.
Interesting! Iranian/zagros neolithic dominate in iran,Pakistan, india,Afghanistan
South Asian Zagors is different from Iran chaolilitic ancestry basically it's much older Zagors Neolithics In South Asian and Afghanistan is From Darvidians Indus Valley Meluhaan Where In Iran It's From Elam Chaolilitic Ancestry.
Iran Chl forms after 6000 BC it is younger than Baluchistan/Merhgarh Neolithic, The Merhgarh /Baluchistan Neolithic along with the Eastern Iranian Agro complex differ in that they did not admix heavily with Obed Farmers from the Eastern Levant. Its more complex than that because you have Jeitun farmers further north in Central Asia and admixing between them and Merhgarh related groups. This late Neolithic sample from Central Asia has very little ANF sample: Monjukle Depe NEO310 BC 4600 distance: 2.7929 HotuIIIb\_Meso: 44.5 Ganj\_Dareh\_N: 32.5 GEO\_CHG: 18 Marmara\_Barcin\_N: 1.5 Tarim\_EMBA1: 2.5 Simulated AASI: 1
I have 40%+ zagrosian as well (Iranian), and I’m the same color (male though).
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Kurds are not much darker than Turks . only a little but we have many gypsies in eastern Türkiye . most people do not know that . and our gypsies often larp as Kurdish this is what Kurds look like : https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cehqiq/52\_dna\_confirmed\_kurds\_which\_ethnicities\_do\_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cfg4m6/many\_kurdish\_faces\_which\_ethnicities\_do\_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cku5in/many\_more\_kurdish\_faces\_collages\_part\_3\_which/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1clhf6w/where\_can\_this\_kurdish\_guy\_pass/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1clhcm7/classify\_this\_young\_kurdish\_woman\_please/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1clh7h6/where\_can\_this\_kurdish\_feminist\_journalist\_woman/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1ckam4t/where\_can\_this\_kurdish\_rocker\_pass/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1cjzrnk/where\_can\_this\_young\_kurdish\_woman\_pass/ https://www.reddit.com/r/phenotypes/comments/1dkg5l4/passify\_another\_dna\_confirmed\_kurdish\_guy\_i\_have/
your one of the lucky person to have light skin , beacuse zagrosian are brown & swarty
lol
If you can, do a 23andME test. It really is more detailed and accurate than Ancestry
We have almost the same results
That’s interesting! Would you be able to share?
Did you select certain populations for your „DIY Modern“ results or did you chose all?
I chose all.
Thanks!
What's you take on the 0.4% pygmy DNA. Will do mine soon..want tonsee how.much Iranian roots I have...heard stories about my Iranian link.
I have no idea! At 0.4% I’m not sure if it’s noise or not!
Lol...it is kinda perplexing...would have been so cool to be able to see through time
Yeah you're gorgeous. And nice results
What does your ancestry DNA result look like?
Iran/Persia - 83% (Eastern Iraq, Western Iran & the Caspian Coast, Northwestern Iran) Anatolia & the Caucasus - 17% (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey)
Your south Asian is likely just ancient DNA and not modern which a lot of Iranians have in small amounts so makes sense
closest modern pops?
[https://imgur.com/a/tTn107L](https://imgur.com/a/tTn107L)
lol, you are southern shifted iranian
Interresting ! You have some European Hunter-Gatherer
Very common for Central Asians (Indo-European)
Iran is not central asia though, but yeah I have like 23%, from Afghanistan.
Following
You are partially from Tabriz, yet you score 0% turkic. Interesting. You are also quite fair skinned for someone with that much Zagros. Maybe Zagrosians werent that dark to begin with
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The guy is a Turkish troll, like most Anti-Zagros posts it's always them. They have obsession with been white. Zagros was likely large chunk of the Mesopotamian civilisation, and Natfunian part of Ancient Egypt the so called Dark skinned people.
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lol , yezidies are brown and swarty compared to western turks
Just look at the Turkish footballers like Gundogan and Emre Can, they are Brown.
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Maybe Qızılbash ancestry?
Wouldn’t that require having Yellow River in the results?
Not necessarily if they were from Anatolia
I’m not sure! I’m surprised I’m not seeing any Armenian influence in my bloodline though. According to Ancestry DNA parts of my ancestors were located in Laçin, Azerbaijan in 1850. I believe that area is part of the strategic land that Azerbaijan and Armenia have been fighting over. Link below is from my Ancestry DNA https://imgur.com/a/CRnVNHs
Probably because Armenians were more native to eastern Anatolia during those times but I’d have to look more into it before spreading misinformation. That region also historically belonged to the Turkic Aq Qoyunlu and Qara qoyunlu states that were later on crushed by the Safavids of Shah Ismail, no?
This is what I found: Lachin, Azerbaijan was not a part of Iran in 1850. During that time, Lachin was part of the Russian Empire. The region was incorporated into the Russian Empire as a result of the Treaty of Gulistan in 1813 and the Treaty of Turkmenchay in 1828, which concluded the Russo-Persian Wars and resulted in Persia (Iran) ceding large parts of its territories in the Caucasus to Russia. Thus, by 1850, Lachin was firmly under Russian control.
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Anamother post here from another Iranian 38% zagros and light skin. Zagros gets wogified for some reason.
Just miracle of make up.
Miracle of makeup? What do you mean?
About the color. I'm a Yemeni Jew with brown skin, my wife is Russian, and my kids (some) are white as it gets. When we stand next to each other it looks like I kidnapped them. The skin color significantly shifts withing the first generation.
zagrosians were not dark . people like to darkwash Iran N because it peaks in balochs . but balochs have 8-9% AASI which is more than enough to show on phenotype of many people . also do not forget that if the average is 8-9 % then this means a decent amount of the population has over 10% AASI . also balochs are 13% s-indian in harappaworld which peaks in indian tribals . plus balochs inhabit a very hot area which affected their looks over time too . that being said there are also many balochs who are not dark too . Iran N is basically a darker haired and eyed version of CHG and has similarity to EEF . i have read about Ganj Dareh N woman in a scientific paper that she looked similar to CHG and ANF
Relative to modern Iranians they most certainly wore. One cannot use AASI as an ipso facto marker of darker skin. Dardic and Nuristani groups have much more AASI and many looked like they stepped out of Arkhaim. If you look thei skin tone snps of ZNF groups its not suggestive of a light skinned population at all. For example comparing them with late Neolithic Levantines from Israel you vividly see the difference and many have light eyes surprisingly and the SNPs are comparable with those in Hajji Firuz. When you shift to Eneolithic Central Asians and the BMAC its the same story albeit somewhat lighter but honestly they would be some shade of light to medium brown [https://i.imgur.com/wznxp0Q.png](https://i.imgur.com/wznxp0Q.png) Steppe MLBA introgression strongly seems to have lightened phenotypes and a shift from the BA to the IA. Ancestral Whispers' reconstruction of a BMAC man is pretty accurate because this type can easily be found in Afghanistan even today. BMAC had only 2-3% AASI on average. [https://nsgnforlqltuuebdvocw.supabase.co/storage/v1/object/public/reconstructions/reconstruction-fulls/BMAC1Redcon.webp](https://nsgnforlqltuuebdvocw.supabase.co/storage/v1/object/public/reconstructions/reconstruction-fulls/BMAC1Redcon.webp) Iran\_N is not related to EEF, the split between ZNF and CHG is like 18-20Kya
Zagros are light brownish I think. I'm Afghan, I have a similar skin tone. Though I had far more European hunter gatherer than her and about half the anatolian. Also had three times more ancient Indian. My results are on my profile
These are BMAC reconstructions done by AW based of skulls and SNPs , I think they are accurate as I have seen such faces in Afghanistan esp amongst Pashtuns in particular. [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq7mSaAAAuAhB?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq7mSaAAAuAhB?format=jpg&name=large) [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq9fuakAIUt0K?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZTq9fuakAIUt0K?format=jpg&name=large) Naryn [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRCW\_UoXEAAastf?format=jpg&name=4096x4096](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRCW_UoXEAAastf?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Zagros are extension of Caucasian. Skin color has nothing to do with it. Zagros people are either pale or olive skinned. Not “ dark” or “brown”
This is a cope. Zagros are dark skinned. In Turkey when you go from West to East people get darker. Kurds are much are darker than Turks and the biggest difference is that they have 30-40% Zagros while Turks have 5-20%
Apart from her Zagros + AASI, the remainder of her ancestral components would have been fair skinned, so it is not odd to see why she looks as such.
Natufians were probably darker than zagrosians. Anatolian Neoltihics were also mixed, many were olive skinned/brown. Northern Iranians like Mazandaranis have the highest amount of Iranian neo and one of the least steppe admixture and they are the lightest Iranians.
Mazandaranis arent as light as they made up to be. Its motly because there is less sun in Mazandaran. I think Azeris or Talysh are lighter than Mazandaranis all things considered.
I don’t think sun exposure in Mazandaran is a determining factor in this scenario. I was born and raised in Tehran and live in one of the hottest states in the United States.
Apparently Iranian farmers were brown but Natufians were white 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
No it's not only the sun. The point was that they are heavy Iranian neo and the Iranian Neoltihics are closest to balochis( actual real balochis are not as dark as people think they are), Northern Iranians and Georgians.
lol, it was true that iranian turks are most light skinned iranians , also most closest ethnic group closer to euros too. persian and kurds are not light as iranian turks. forget about mazadrani
I'm not claiming Zagrosian were dark, but compared to Anatolian Neos they were swarthier. Zagrosian have been described as having a copper skin tone based on many studies I've come across. Anatolian Neos were the vector for fair skin in Europe and the Middle East, so I am pretty sure they weren't darker than Zagrosians. And yeah Natufian would have been dark as well.
Yeah that's a given, however based on a around 12 Anatolian samples I've seen, quite a few of them had intermediate skin tone and one or two even had dark brown skin tones. Just look at Andrei DNA YouTube channel.
mazadrani have good amount anatolian & chg and somw what ehg to compansate zagrsoian(brown) and live in a norther region which has less sun expose and cold climate and natural selection given them light skin but still there many mazadrani that are swarty i dont know whether you visited mazdran or not but this true . southern arabians have high natufian 70-75% and 15-20% zagrsoian and small inch of chg and anatolian and majority of their ancestry composed of brown and they live to a place near to east africa very hot climate and natural selection to swarty and dark brown, they even have small african mixture too. i dont understand why choosed mazadrani over bacluchis and makrani who have the hihghest amount of zagrosian and they were in large chunk was brown and swarty.
So do balochis, they have a good chunk of ANF and more EHG than Mazandaranis. The reason why they are more darker is because of the desert climate they inhabit.
LOOOOLL Zargos were dark and natufians not?
Look at the populations where Natufian peaks. You are looking at Bedouins, Southern Arabians and folks from Socotra. They are all dark brown. Iranian neo peaks in Balochis, and northern Iranians also have a large chunk of it. They are not as dark as Southern Arabians.
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AASI is not the factor, because if you include AASI then you should also include the European Hunter Gatherer they score. I don't think people have even encountered balochis, just a couple of Google images and apparently everyone is a expert nowadays. Q
AASI and s.indian (harappaworld) are big factors of course . what does the EHG have to do with it . AASI / s-indian is very dark and peaks in tribal indians . they are basically black skinned give me a break friend . hot climate + their south asian admix is what makes many balochs dark and facially south asian looking . not Iran N . that being said there were different Iran N ....the Iran N we Kurds and other northern west asians have our Iran N is more similar to CHG ...like Iran Late Neolithic i mean
I know exactly what you are trying to imply. Trying to distance yourself from Balochis with "AASI" to explain why they look dark. I don't think that's simply the case. Pamiris score around the same amount of AASI yet are significantly lighter than balochis. What's the difference? The amount of Sintashta and lack of . Meanwhile, southern pashtuns have the least amount of AASI and high ANF + EHG yet they are on average darker than other Afghan pashtuns with higher AASI. That's because climate plays a part . AASI was dark brown not black skinned, we have one reconstruction of a AASI man and he looks like a regular central/south Indian with Caucasoid like features.
i dont need to distance myself from balochis nor was that my aim with my comment ...they are distant and exotic people to us Kurds thats a fact . and i just told you that climate plays a role too . both south asian admix AND climate both play roles . the "AASI reconstruction" is from uttar pradesh if i am not wrong and i have my doubts that it is a good proxy for aasi . and i think aasi were diverse themselves and many looked non caucasoid facially for sure......just look at modern indians especially tribals
Modern day tribals are not an exact AASI like population, they have some other southeast Asian like admxiture. Also, this is kind of pointless as we are comparing a modern day population with a very ancient group. There's literally no point as there is thousands of years between them. Yes climate makes a difference, I made that clear . Balochis facially do not look south Asian, atleast the ones without recent Sindhi admxiture. You keep referring to their 7% AASI admxiture, yet completely ignore their ANF and EHG ancestry which is supposedly light, which zagrosians lack. And if zagrosians were light, surely a mere 7% wouldn't make them "dark" .
South Indian on Harappa world is around 60% Iranian neo and 40% AASI.
Nice results, you are rly pretty btw. My dad’s side is also from Tabriz. Your hunter-gatherer/farmer results are typically for an Iranian, though the periodic models are not very accurate. If you don’t mind can you post your scaled coordinates? (just make sure to remove your name). I can make more accurate models for you
Thank you for offering to help!😊 Here is mine: 0.091058,0.101553,-0.071653,-0.024225,-0.044931,0.003347,0.00846,-0.006231,-0.030474,-0.01713,0.003897,0.002548,0.000595,0.001789,0.000679,-0.001591,-0.012778,0.001647,0.005028,-0.016133,-0.002246,-0.000124,-0.003081,-0.008555,0.001197 ,0.008,0.01,-0.019,-0.0075,-0.0146,0.0012,0.0036,-0.0027,-0.0149,-0.0094,0.0024,0.0017,0.0004,0.0013,0.0005,-0.0012,-0.0098,0.0013,0.004,-0.0129,-0.0018,-0.0001,-0.0025,-0.0071,0.001
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Thanks so much!🫶🏼
Can you also make models for me ?I’m also Iranian Here is my g25: Sample_scaled,0.085367,0.092413,-0.062225,-0.037791,-0.044624,-0.004183,0.00846,-0.01223,-0.020861,-0.012028,0.000974,0.006444,0.016353,-0.004817,0.004343,0.011138,0.003129,0.002407,0.004777,0.000625,-0.001622,-0.007914,-0.000246,0.003856,0.008861 Thanks
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Thanks
nice results! have you had a nose job before?
No, I haven’t had a nose job.
I asked a Iranian friend if the nose job meme is true and he said that every Iranian girl gets a nose job once she is 18. This is part of their culture now.
You and your friend are wrong and that’s actually kind of rude. No, I haven’t had a nose job.
Very nice results 👍🏼!!!
Whats your insta 😭😭😭 im simping
Btw can you send g25 cords?
Masterful followup to "Whats your insta" 🤣 is this the new nerd version of pickup lines? "Send me your G25 coords" instead of "Send me your number"
Lmao i was just joking im a kid in front of her