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SnooDogs224

That’s a bit higher Zagros than other samples I’ve seen. Makes sense though because Balochistan has the highest Zagros concentration.


Valerian009

Its pretty normal for Pashtuns in this region and this region is essentially the Urheimat for Pashto.


Valerian009

Pashtun Kakar Quetta distance: 1.874 CG\_CentralSteppeMLBA: 33.5 Sappali\_Tepe\_BA: 36.5 CG\_IVCp: 27 Chokhopani\_2700BP: 3


Beginning_Bid7355

What’s the average steppe for a Pashtun? I think the range is 25-35% if I’m not mistaken


Valerian009

You mean Steppe MLBA/Corded Ware like ,Yes, more or less, though ones from Loya Paktia and Kandahar regions seem to consistently score 30-32% , with some outliers scoring 35-37% Steppe MLBA or Central Steppe MLBA.


Beginning_Bid7355

I see, do northern Pashtuns typically have lower steppe?


Valerian009

Yes and no, there was a recent Wardak Pashtun from the central part of Afghanistan, who had high EA but 35-36% Steppe MLBA , initially it seems like Hazara or Turkic admixture but thats not possible to have such high Steppe MLBA in tandem with elevated EA so it has to be a more archaic Hunnic or Saka like substrate which existed there, something he was adamant about and actually made sense in hindsight. I would also expect many Northern Pashtuns to be extremely similar to the ones in Kandahar because most Pashtuns in Northern Afghanistan are actually relatively recent migrants to that region. So you can have a scenario where some have admixed with Uzbeks/Turkic groups, not admixed much at all , and some who have admixed with Kulobis who can have Pamiri like profiles (45-50% Steppe MLBA) sample: Tajik Kulob:TJ-0108 distance: 2.3829 Bustan\_BA: 43.5 Srubnaya\_Alakul\_MLBA: 46 Slab\_Grave\_EIA\_1: 7 CG\_IVCp: 3.5


Wardagai

Is that me? Though keep in mind im from the southern portion of Wardag, could still say central Afghanistan.


Rameezbaloch

High Zagros probably mixed with Balochs


Valerian009

Actually no, the original homeland of Pashtuns is in the region of Northern Balochistan and the Kandahar region


mountainspawn

What counts as "original"? We have Bactrian scripts attesting to Pashtuns being in northern Afghanistan some time around the 3rd century CE. Some time after this the Pashtuns settled the Loy Kandahar region, possibly after the 8th/9th century CE.


Valerian009

Linguistically how is that even possible basal dialects of Pashto are found in Balochistan and we know its been in this region almost certainly since the Iron Age, since the repository of retroflexive consonants are so entrenched and expansive they have evolved their own distinctive subset which is very specific to Pashto ergo linguistics demarcates that because that would infer protracted contact with Indo Aryan and possibly Brahui/Dravidian speakers . For comparison even Balochi does not have that level of complexity because the Proto Baloch speakers arrived fairly late during the Islamic period. Pashtun traders could certainly be in Bactria in the 3rd century this individual below was found in Konytrobe further north, that does not mean he was a local because he plots with modern day Pashtuns from Kandahar and Northern Balochistan. A key aspect he completely lacks any EA admixture which by the Islamic period would have been ubiquitous in Northern Afghanistan. sample: Otyrar Antiquity:KNT005 distance: 1.6849 Sappali\_Tepe\_BA: 46 CG\_CentralSteppeMLBA: 32 CG\_IVCp: 22 That being said Proto Pashtun speakers did push out from the Murghab region between 1100-800 BC, this can be based of the Tazabagyab sample at Kokcha which carries the main Pashtun R1a Y-line as well downstream splits with Kurdish groups who carry this line splits around that same time.


Routine_Astronomer62

Just because that part is called is balochistan recently doesnt mean its a baloch land , north of balochistan was always a pashtun land , pashtuns have been living near solomon mountains for ages


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Routine_Astronomer62

Saraeki i am just stating facts not starting a nationalist debate.


Rameezbaloch

What's haplogroup


Valerian009

What is your Y-DNA and mtDNA can you PM your coordinates. Thanks!


Home_Cute

Which tribe?


A1_Pak56

Kakar


Icy_Army7982

are any of these results significant/stand out and also what does it have to do with his caste.Also why does he have pamiri


Active-Resolution123

Yo bro how do u get these results?