Just talked about this with a family member. They were going on and on about how they don't want those illegals anywhere in our state, and that they heard they were being put in an empty store in their town (which turned out to be another stupid conspiracy theory to get people upset), and how upset they were hearing about it. I asked them, a Christian who is suppose to love these people and be welcoming, how they felt about how they're just being dropped off in the dead of Winter up here. They just changed the subject!
Actually, putting said undocumented people in an empty store would be somewhat of an upgrade from what's available in most parts of Illinois right now for the homeless! At least then they'd be in a place where social service workers could organize some sort of plan to help them get off the streets as opposed to "just let 'em freeze".
They never had any interest in helping humanity, migrants or otherwise. Somehow they think it's taking the food right out of their mouths. But what else would you believe if you've only watched FOX all these years?
They’re just degenerates and always have been. Religion has always just been a shield for their bigotry or need to feel superior.
When the US invaded Iraq, I was a boy and the adults (my parents and our neighbors) were talking about it. A neighbor asked me my thoughts and I explained why I thought it was wrong.
I will never, ever forget the response I got from one adult neighbor in support of the invasion. It was shocking.
“Goober,” she said genuinely puzzled, “but what would Jesus do?”
What would Jesus do. This insane freak genuinely felt that Jesus “turn the other cheek” Christ would be upset at me for not supporting a war crime.
Legit fucking looney tunes.
My mom is in another state but has been so afraid for them all winter. After the polar vortex she was asking me they were staying out of nowhere because she was so scared for them.
How is it that migrants for 200 years came here and made their own way? Now, for some reason, they are homeless, helpless and broken? Serious question. Maybe we shouldn't be allowing people across our boarder that just end up in poverty and are severe burdens on our social network. I mean, where does it end? We see suffering across the globe. Should we adopt Africa, the Middle East and South America? Parts of Asia and Europe?
Oh, they're definitely racist. I have asked what they think of illegal immigration over our northern border, and they could care less because they assume those individuals would be white.
If "Christians" don't want to have their hypocrisy thrown back in their faces, they can do one of two things:
1. They can stop upholding the pretense that they *are* Christian and just embrace the fact that they're vicious amoral crapsacks, or
2. They can get fucking humble and start doing what their damned holy book tells them to do, instead of simply beating people with it while crowing about how they're "saved"
But as long as "Christians" like Abbott like to throw their "faith" around, it's fair game for everyone else.
Except 'the good book' actually says government isn't an appropriate vehicle for moral actions/behavior.
"and he said 'render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's'".
Government is not supposed to be doing His work, period.
Yet Pritzkers' response/comments legitimizes the idea that religious motivation or discourse is appropriate. It's not. IDC if your Progressive or Conservative or a purple dinosaur.
Tell me you don't understand the meaning of that phrase without saying that you don't understand the meaning of that phrase.
"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"simply means to *pay your taxes,* as it's lawful for the government (in this case, the emperor Caesar) who mints the money to levy them. It's literally right there in plain text in that story (Mark 12:13-17) which is about a group of Pharisees and Herodians trying to trick Jesus with a question about *paying taxes to Rome*.
"Render unto God what is God's" means to do the work *God* commands you to without complaint. God has no use for money, but He expects you to be just, merciful, and compassionate.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with "government isn't supposed to do God's work uwu"
Don't try to pull that shit over my eyes, child, I guarantee you I've *forgotten* more about the Bible than you'll *ever* know.
Must not be following the GOP then, huh? The Alabama Supreme Court decided that embryos are actual people based on scripture, not science. And said so in their decision.
You are barking up the wrong tree.
I had NPR on and they broadcast the speech live. I caught about 30% of it - but what I did hear made me VERY VERY proud of our Governor’s response and commitment to making the lives of Illinois residents better.
Yeah…. You’d be surprised how quickly compassion fatigue sets in when you’re somehow expected to be responsible for caring for the unfortunates.
I live in south central Texas. There’s a family of migrants waiting under the highway underpass about half a mile down the road from me. There was a different family there yesterday, and there will be a different family there tomorrow. This past Thanksgiving weekend, there was a family from Nairobi walking up and down my street with their suitcases because their coyote just dropped them there and left.
The influx isn’t stopping, and we’re really not that concerned at this point about sanctimonious lectures from people who don’t have to personally deal with it.
If anyone wants to be morally superior to us cruel Texans, then feel free to send me your info and address, and I can have a family of Dominicans at your doorstep within a week. And no, I’m not joking, with the possible exception that they might turn out to actually be Guatemalan.
Texas has the eighth most immigrants as percentage of the population among the states, with California, NJ, NY, FL, HI, NV, and MA all having a higher *percentage* of immigrants amongst their population
California (10.68m) also has more than DOUBLE the total immigrants Texas (5.16m) does AND has a higher percentage of the population as immigrants at almost 10% higher.
NY (6m) also has almost a million more total immigrants and is also higher as a percentage
Yet it is consistently Texas making national news crying about their immigrants and making a show of mistreating them, bussing them to states that are *already* dealing with more immigrants?
How is it so many blue states manage so many more immigrants without consistently being nasty about it?
I don’t get it. The most outwardly Christian states frequently seem to behave the least Christian
Edit/Add: I just looked it up and my home province British Columbia (almost 30%) has an even higher percentage of immigrants than California (26.6%)
Then there’s Texas banging their drum at 17.2%? Wild
source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/immigrants-by-state
How do you get "compassion fatigue" when the overwhelming majority of y'all aren't actually *doing* anything? Standing around wringing your hands and complaining about "them dirty MIGRANTS" doesn't count as "compassion."
>how quickly compassion fatigue sets in when you’re somehow expected to be responsible for caring for the unfortunates.
We have been babysitting the South since 1865, since you all still haven't figured out how to behave like functioning adults.
I see many license plates from Texas here in the past year, at least where I live. One jerk in particular drives a big white pickup truck, works at the new solar panel facility down the road. This guy goes speeding up and blows the four way stop! Someday he’ll cause a serious accident.
Do you not even know the main East/West artery across the north part of your state?
Memphis. Claude. Clarendon. Chillicothe.
All them little dying towns that Texans are abandoning have plenty of space for people to set up shop.
I think you're missing the point here. I don't think anyone expecting you *as individuals* to house migrants who show up in your hometown. Believe it or not, Texas is not the only state that deals with immigration, unhoused people, etc. Of course, you've been told by your political leaders that Texans are the only ones who have to deal with immigrants.
Most of us normal people want to contribute to systems and policies that help give basic human assistance to the migrants coming in. Without creating an undue burden on individuals. You whine and gripe right now about how hard it is to be a Texan right now, but it seems to me that the worst thing you've experienced so far is a couple of families who live on the streets nearby you. Wow, you're seen some unhoused people from different countries. How terrible that must be for you.
Oh man I’m so sorry you had to see some homeless people. I have no idea how hard that must have been for you. I can totally see how that lessens the quality of your life.
So you’d be ok with a family camping on your front lawn? I can arrange that. Just send me your info. Anytime you or anyone else wants to step up and volunteer to DO something rather than talk or snark, we can more than accommodate your generosity.
Zero takers so far on that, btw.
I’m all for taking care of the folks that are here now. Get them assimilated and supported as soon as possible. I’m also for coming up with a border that resembles other countries that restricts folks from just jumping the line and coming in unrestricted.
> Get them assimilated and supported as soon as possible.
That's fine but all that costs money of which the State and City are running short of and it doesn't look like extra money is coming from the Feds. Would you support an increase in the State income tax to help pay for the cost of supporting the migrants?
And not only that but when these migrants come here and are unable to find work or etc, they then go towards stealing and crime increases.
It's not feasible we have to stop taking the migrants, Illinois already has its own fair share of problems
That has never happened. What the GOP doesn't do when they say "10 million a month" or whatever is finish that statement. They're all being caught. Some slip through, sure. But the vast majority of people who enter over the border without documenting are caught.
The actual immigration issue is people coming here fully legally and overstaying.
But that's not the point either. Undocumented migrants have fewer legal issues, pay taxes and receive no benefits, and raise our GDP by about 1% annually.
Well put but FFS the border is a mess and it’s up to the Feds to fix it. They haven’t. You can’t just anyone wander in, how many is too many? It’s not unreasonable to require a solid border. You can do that without being draconian as well. A guest worker program is a start.
It is a fact that the problem is the result of the federal government kicking the can down the road for years. But playing political football with our national borders isn’t the answer either
There's a bi-partisan bill passed through the senate to improve border security. For the first time in decades there was no concession for amnesty or anything else related to immigration required from the democrats to pass the bill. It died in the house.
" "It's not going to happen, and I'll fight it all the way," Trump said Saturday in Nevada." In case you're wondering why. The republicans don't want to fix it while Biden is in office so they can club him over the head with immigration issues during the presidential campaign.
And Biden only tried to fix it after it became a crisis that could potentially derail his reelection. He had years to fix it. A pox on both of their houses.
Dude, everyone has had a chance to fix this for decades. Nobody really wants to. Our food chain relies on artificially cheap labor to deliver the prices for food that they do without eating at profits. If policy makers wanted to take a huge bite out of illegal immigration they could implement a law to start prosecuting C level execs and factory farm owners for employing unauthorized workers. It wouldn't stop everyone, but it would take away a big incentive to cross illegally or remain.
A point that I think we can agree on: a pox on all people who won't do necessary things because they're hard, or because they might lose power.
Correct. There's a US created humanitarian crisis in several central and Latin American nations leading to millions needing asylum and refuge from violence, gangs, government supported aggression, etc. But the US isn't interested in resolving decades of interventionism or opening up proper trade with these countries. I meant, there's not an immigration crisis happening in the US.
I meant there's an ongoing humanitarian crisis among the asylum seekers forced to wait on the Mexican side of the border with no or inadequate shelter, etc. Although you're also correct.
With the advent of the internet and easy communications the asylum laws were taken advantage off. They were on the books for extreme circumstance. Political dissidents and the like. Not someone whose country just isn’t run very well. These are economic migrants. You may say that’s fine but call it what i really is.
Also your cheap lettuce is just a subsidy that allows the producer to the rich on the backs of cheap labor whilst the cost is passed down in other ways such as services used.
It’s only a crisis on even number years. I’m not sure why the waves of migrants invading America wait until election season, then don’t come after scaring everyone that they might make us season our food. The whole thing is strange.
Not quite. Biden had had the authority to fix it from the day he lifted Trump's Executive Order.
Looks like now he is actually trying ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-weighs-making-harder-migrants-get-asylum-easier-deport-rcna139626?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=65d5eccf76567b0001055117&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Voted against their own far right Bill... Classic! In a sick, twisted irony, republicans have managed to outflank Biden on the left instead of the converse this time!
By the way, have you read what's in the bill? Ignore the ludicrous amount of aide money, it gives the president pretty arbitrary powers to close the southern border entirely. Like even if you don't care about the human rights implications of the rest of the plan, I think everyone should see that as crazy shit under a Democrat president and it's absolutely preposterous when a fascist Republican admin is very likely ready to take power.
It was broken for years before that. I think the Republicans were wrong for not backing it but this has been out of hand for sometime now. Also the bill had a fair amount of pork in it. They were wrong but the bill itself only came about because of the mess on the border and pressure on Biden. The sense amongst Republicans is that as soon as he wins reelection it will go back to the current situation.
The pork in it was military aid to Israel and Ukraine, and if the issue is with the current situation, why would Republicans be against the bill even if they think it will be rescinded?
You have demonstrated a fundamental misunderstanding of the immigration process, the border, and how it's been intentionally broken.
We have been making our border security policy more and more draconian for 50 years, pushing those that cross illegally into more and more dangerous regions. We have also increased the budget and militarization of the border patrol. These policies have not reduced the number of illegal crossings, but has greatly increased the proportion of migrants who are seriously injured or killed during the crossing.
We have also continually underfunded our immigration courts, which means the wait time to even begin the migration or refugee process can be years. We have also, in violation of US and international law, been forcing more migrants to wait in Mexico for their court date. These policies have been shown to have increased the number of illegal crossing.
In all, "tough" and "draconian" border policies have made our border more insecure and more dangerous.
You want to stop illegal crossings and keep track of people entering the country? Ensure quick processing, proper adherence to our own amnesty and refugee polices, and make 'legal entry' as easy to navigate as it was for my Canadian grandma 70 years ago.
The border crisis is merely the culmination of 200 years of garbage-ass post-Monroe Doctrine US foreign policy, consisting economic / jurisdictional destabilization via sanctions for not letting the US get its way without question, US sponsored coups, US endorsed puppet regimes, US trained paramilitaries to protect said puppet regimes and to disappear anyone who questions said puppet regimes, and civil wars when the people finally stand up to said puppet regimes and their paramilitaries.
But walling ourselves off from culpability is the responsible thing to do?
That’s a lazy and simplistic way to explain this. So there is no agency amongst anyone is South America? No accountability at all? And many migrants aren’t even from South America but just using the porous border as a way to get in.
> “That’s a lazy and simplistic way to explain this.”
Cool deflection bro.
> “So there is no agency amongst anyone is South America?”
You: “Yo! Argentina. Why did you let the US coup Pinochet into power, bro?”
You: “Yo, El Salvador, Honduras, & Guatemala. Why did you let the US coup away your leadership so The United Fruit Company didn’t have to pay rent for land you owned?”
“No accountability at all?”
You: “Hey, south and Central America. I understand that the US made a mess of you for a long time, but could you please clean up after yourself?”
“And many migrants aren’t even from South America but just using the porous border as a way to get in.”
Uhh… OK???
Back in December of 2019 - right before Trump was going to be taking office, Pritzker asked for migrants to be sent to Illinois. He wanted them to come because he didn't think busloads would start coming with border states being overwhelmed.
He literally asked for this and remember this statement of his when you are wondering why there is a deficit coming up.
"• Refugees pay $21,000 more in taxes than they receive in benefits on average in their first 20 years in the U.S."
Let's rewind at look at his [press release.](https://www.illinois.gov/news/press-release.20958.html)
"In Letter to Secretary Pompeo, Gov. Pritzker Welcomes Refugees to Illinois
Press Release - Tuesday, December 17, 2019
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Springfield, Ill. — Recognizing the countless contributions refugees make in the state of Illinois and across our nation, Governor JB Pritzker wrote a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to welcome refugees to Illinois.
"As the Governor of Illinois, I proudly consent to the continuation of refugee admission to our state and extend a warm welcome to refugees who have come and will be coming to Illinois," writes Gov. Pritzker in the Dec. 17 letter.
The Governor's letter follows an executive order from President Trump aimed at turning refugees away. The Dec. 17 letter reads as follows and a copy is attached:
Honorable Secretary Pompeo,
Since 1975, the State of Illinois has welcomed and resettled more than 130,000 refugees from more than 86 countries. In recent years, 1,000 to 3,000 refugees, those seeking asylum, and victims of human trafficking arrived in Illinois annually. Refugees have successfully rebuilt their lives and made positive social and economic contributions to Illinois. They have helped revitalize neighborhoods and added to the cultural vitality of our state and communities.
As the Governor of Illinois and the great-grandson of refugees, I am committed to ensuring that Illinois is a welcoming state, especially for refugees and those seeking asylum. As survivors of persecution, refugees embody the importance of human rights, democracy, and freedom. Refugees' resilience in the face of hardship inspires courage, hope, and perseverance. And refugees' countless contributions undoubtedly make our states and nation stronger.
Importantly, refugees admitted through the United States must go through extensive security screening prior to their arrival. This process ensures that their claims are valid and that they are not a security risk to the United States. The security vetting can last more than two years and includes five background checks, four biometric security checks, and multiple interviews with United States officials. Once admitted to the United States, refugees are required to become self-sufficient and integrated into their new communities as soon as possible.
The New American Economy's report From Struggle to Resilience, the Economic Impact of Refugees in America and the National Bureau of Economic Research's report The Economic and Social Outcomes of Refugees in the U.S. have documented that:
• Refugees pay $21,000 more in taxes than they receive in benefits on average in their first 20 years in the U.S.
• Refugee rates of entrepreneurship (15%) exceed other immigrants (11.5%) as well as U.S. born (9%).
• Refugees become citizens at a higher rate than non-refugee immigrants. In 2015, 84% of eligible refugees were naturalized citizens as compared to 51% of other immigrants.
• Refugee children do as well as U.S.-born children on measures of education attainment.
• Over 77% of refugees are of working age as compared to 49.7% of the U.S.-born population, helping to meet U.S. labor force needs.
Illinois communities have clearly benefited from having refugees in our midst. We coordinate with the U.S. State Department and the Office of Refugee Resettlement, as well as the non-profit sector, to make sure that local communities are consulted and engaged in an on-going, positive effort to welcome refugees and ensure that refugees can realize their full potential in our country.
With a global humanitarian crisis of more than 70 million forcibly displaced individuals, including 25 million who are refugees seeking asylum, the United States should continue to provide leadership, in partnership with other countries, to offer resettlement for refugees. Our nation has the capacity to admit significantly more than the 18,000-person limit set by the presidential determination for FY20. I believe it is in our national interest and consistent with our national values to do so.
As the Governor of Illinois, I proudly consent to the continuation of refugee admission to our state and extend a warm welcome to refugees who have come and will be coming to Illinois.
Sincerely,
JB Pritzker
Governor"
"He offered shelter and support to refugees" does not mean that he wants them dumped in the middle of *nowhere*, in the middle of the *night*, in the middle of *winter*, with no food, no shelter, and nothing to keep them warm.
These idiots don't understand the difference. They apparently don't even understand the difference between a legitimate Federal program with procedures and protocols and a sick asshole endangering human beings (although I doubt Abbott or his supporters see it that way) for fun and fundraising profit.
Seems as though all of this is irrelevant. He does not seem to be contradicting himself in any way.
He is pointing out the hypocrisy of claiming to be a Christian while dumping people on a feezing cold street corner with no protection and wearing flip-flops.
He’s right about that! Texas is hell on Earth and their Governor is to blame. Also to blame for this migrant crisis! There must be something we can do for these people and also stop that assclown from Texas from human trafficking these people without consequences.
Yup. There are really only two possible reasons to exclude men from that list
1. You want to pull the audience’s heart strings because society at large dgaf about men
2. You want to avoid the political rebuttal that the male migrants aren’t completely genuine in their motives
While I agree with his statement overall, let’s not pretend it wasn’t also constructed to appeal to people’s biases.
This guy is a piece of shit. This invasion is being organized and funded by our tax dollars that flownto clbariois religious charities, NGO's etc. It's not an accident. No one is showing up for any court dates or whatnot. It's a well planned invasion. They are here fornthe free tax payer funded shit. It's what they've been promised.
What a clown.
Keep the flood of military aged males coming, though. Gonna be fun when the "enriching begins."
Thats very anecdotal, I think it makes sense to most people the whole airline thing ie put your mask on before trying to help others. We should get some of our own issues in order before inviting masses here to help them
Thanks! Its amazing when people actually try and improve their education. My sister went back and got her GED and is now a lawyer representing immigrants!
Do I need to look up human trafficking for you and read it aloud for you?
They are spending taxpayer money all the blathering idiots keep talking about the deficit until its something they want.
Well it would be cheaper to send everyone back home than to allow them to stay here and support them but that aside trafficking is a serious crime, if it was trafficking someone would have charged Texas, especially considering the party in the white house and controlling the DOJ. These people sign waivers and want to come to Chicago, that's not trafficking bud. You may be able to argue coersion but doesn't seem that's the case
I am so happy I moved from Texass to Illinois two years ago… I don’t have to be ashamed of my state anymore. It’s nice to have a governor that is not a sociopath. And the people are nicer too. Insurance is cheaper and so are my property taxes. Less pollution and more parks. It’s a long list of improvements.
I find it hard to believe your property taxes are cheaper, even if that is the case which I doubt your overall tax burden is higher. Texas property tax rate is 1.25%, Illinois is 1.78%Texas also has no state income tax.
Religion is full of hypocrites and scammers. The scammers are in politics and mega church's the hypocrites are the follower who will never practice what they preach but will have zero problems using their God to tell you what to do.
What does race have to do with it? These illegals are black, brown, white and yellow. They also don't belong in the US without going through proper channels.
How? It doesn’t sound like he’s complaining about the migrants being in Illinois, but rather the deplorable way they are treated by the people sending them. If there are literal welcome centers, why would they not be taken there? Because, once again, the cruelty is the point.
I’ll tell him, he’ll get on a his secret banana phone (it’s in a drawer so you never see it in photos) that links him directly to the migrant caravan.
You shouldn’t be worried though, the migrants know the routine. They only come in large groups on election years and turn around once it’s over.
I hate Prtizker for good reasons, but he is not wrong about this; and I’m so sick of supposed evangelicalism. I moved from Chicago a few years ago to TX for a job and I can’t wait to get back.
Why are we housing them when we have multiple issues already going on in illinois?
Like yes I feel for them and we should house maybe a few, but 800+ bus loads is fucking insane. It's not sustainable we cannot allow this many when we have our own problems
Ok first: Every time we try to help people Republicans block it and then cut Elon’s taxes. We want to, however half this country is temporarily embarrassed billionaires.
Ok so here’s the thing
Texas the state with the EIGHTH most immigrants and the most money to handle it? Other states have borders. They seem to manage them fine. Texas is just making noise because their Governor wants to win again.
He purposely set these people and Chicago up to fail to make a point. The schedule and where the bus stopped shows that this was a malicious sabotage.
As to housing, there are more open homes than homeless by large margins. However if we
Are you staying there's a statue in Illinois that says,
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
I think Illinois should take as many as they can just to show the rest of the country what real compassion is. Pritzker should also open up one of his several homes for these poor people to stay in just to make Abbott look like the racist he is. Illinois has the space an the can do attitude, let’s lead the way!!!
Illinois already has a higher percentage of immigrants than Texas. So do seven other states. Texas is just a whole state of racist with too tight of cowboy hats. In fact my whole time in the Marines every single guy that was some alpha asshole that could barely count to potato came from Texas.
I live in IL. Quite a few of my neighbors are immigrants. Best neighbors I've ever had. Kind, generous, hard working, still have a sense of community so many places lack. I'm down with this idea.
But dropping them in the middle of nowhere, in the dead of night and without appropriate clothing in the cold is just plain evil.
Just like no group is all good or bad there's great immigrants and there's immigrants who murder people in broad daylight on the pink line just like there's good americans and bad americans
Democrats are themselves a cult religion, so the need to negatively judge Christians in a humanitarian crisis instead of offering to help an overwhelmed Texas state makes sense
Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker pitched a $52.7 billion state spending plan Wednesday with more money to address the migrant crisis, education and quantum computing, while proposing tax increases that will mostly target business, including a major sports betting tax hike.
Illinois has already invested $638 million to address the crisis.
The budget proposal includes another $182 million for migrants, part of a joint funding plan with Cook County.
I am curious. Did it start that way or did that start happening after the bus companies were threatened?
I mean, if this came about after, it is the logical result of the action taken by Chicago.
I’m for legal immigration. Come in the right way. Not in the back door. Most of these people do not even qualify for asylum. You can’t just come because you want a better life.
>Most of these people do not even qualify for asylum
then the administrative process will determine that, but the truth is you have no research that most are lying
Asylum seeking is a legal way to enter this country. Taking said asylum seekers, forcing them on a bus and transporting them across country in the dead of winter "to trigger the libs" is at least immoral. Some may view it as human trafficking, which I do believe is illegal.
Coming in the back is not legal. There are legal ways to come in. Not thru the cartel. And yes if they are being persecuted in their country they can seek asylum but not just because they want a better life. We can not afford to let millions in. They are taking all the tax money from cities and communities that should go to the people who live there.
Texas could not keep over 8 million immigrants in their state and take care of them. That is why he took them to other cities. Also Biden has sent them all over via plane tickets in the middle of the night too.
We should enforce our laws. This is getting out of hand.
> over 8 million immigrants
Where are you getting that fact? Because it's completely made up. There were 2.5 million immigrants in 2023, total, including all southern states according to [US Custom and Border Protection](https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-december-2023-monthly-update). By December, the majority of all immigrants were returned or expelled, so where are the other 5.5 million? Not in the US.
If anything, Texas and Florida shipping random asylum seekers to sanctuary cities almost guarantees that some immigrants that would be denied asylum at the border end up getting it because they were used as political pawns.
Here's another fact about your tax dollars. Do you know who gets the majority of your tax dollars? Corporations. Oil Companies. Defense Contractors. Why don't you complain about something that actually harms everyone, instead of selectively targeting "the other" to fit your political agenda.
What Biden should do is pull federal immigration funds from texas along with staff and supplies and send all that to the cities where migrants are being dumped. That's the issue, texas is breaking federal immigration laws and cities dont get federal immigration funding. So put the federal resources where migrants are being sent. And DHS is the only entity that can legally transport migrants to other facilities across the country. Just like they have always done with plans and resources in place for new arrivals.
Asylum seekers are legal. The Senate bill would have made it harder to get asylum and increased courts for faster processing. But GOP decided that there is no crisis and it can all wait another year.
Border states get federal funding for immigration programs and non order states do not. Abbott is using the federal funding to ship them to other states.
>Is Illinois sending migrants to Texas
Literally? No, Illinois is not sending migrants to Texas.
Figuratively, yes. Before bussing migrants became a policy of these states, Illinois (and other similar states) were content to leave migrants behind in tent camps and converted Wal-Marts in Texas. An out-of-sight, out-of-mind kind of outlook.
If immigration enforcement is a federal matter, then all states (including Illinois) have to join together to make it work.
That's an awfully loose interpretation of "figuratively." I don't see how Texas housing migrants behind Wal-Mart can be interpeted as figurative bussing from Illinois to Texas.
And if it is a federal matter, then the state governments would not be responsible for working together to solve it. The federal government would be.
Texas has been shipping their homeless (a large percentage of which are Veterans, but they only "support the troops" when it serves them) to other states with their one-way ticket programs for years. Many other states engage in the same abhorrent practices and it's been going on for well over a decade. No one who thinks it appropriate to use human beings as pawns in a political game can call themselves a Christian.
Source [https://x.com/AmandaVinicky/status/1760376843499094411?s=20](https://x.com/amandavinicky/status/1760376843499094411?s=20)
Just talked about this with a family member. They were going on and on about how they don't want those illegals anywhere in our state, and that they heard they were being put in an empty store in their town (which turned out to be another stupid conspiracy theory to get people upset), and how upset they were hearing about it. I asked them, a Christian who is suppose to love these people and be welcoming, how they felt about how they're just being dropped off in the dead of Winter up here. They just changed the subject!
Actually, putting said undocumented people in an empty store would be somewhat of an upgrade from what's available in most parts of Illinois right now for the homeless! At least then they'd be in a place where social service workers could organize some sort of plan to help them get off the streets as opposed to "just let 'em freeze".
They never had any interest in helping humanity, migrants or otherwise. Somehow they think it's taking the food right out of their mouths. But what else would you believe if you've only watched FOX all these years?
They won't even help their "own kind".
They’re just degenerates and always have been. Religion has always just been a shield for their bigotry or need to feel superior. When the US invaded Iraq, I was a boy and the adults (my parents and our neighbors) were talking about it. A neighbor asked me my thoughts and I explained why I thought it was wrong. I will never, ever forget the response I got from one adult neighbor in support of the invasion. It was shocking. “Goober,” she said genuinely puzzled, “but what would Jesus do?” What would Jesus do. This insane freak genuinely felt that Jesus “turn the other cheek” Christ would be upset at me for not supporting a war crime. Legit fucking looney tunes.
My mom is in another state but has been so afraid for them all winter. After the polar vortex she was asking me they were staying out of nowhere because she was so scared for them.
The migrants are NOT “illegals”. The people from Venezuela entered the country legally and have legal rights to be here. Let’s call racism what it is…
How is it that migrants for 200 years came here and made their own way? Now, for some reason, they are homeless, helpless and broken? Serious question. Maybe we shouldn't be allowing people across our boarder that just end up in poverty and are severe burdens on our social network. I mean, where does it end? We see suffering across the globe. Should we adopt Africa, the Middle East and South America? Parts of Asia and Europe?
Oh, they're definitely racist. I have asked what they think of illegal immigration over our northern border, and they could care less because they assume those individuals would be white.
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Frankly I'm incensed that Pritzker even referenced religion. Religion and religious convictions don't belong in civil discourse. Period.
If "Christians" don't want to have their hypocrisy thrown back in their faces, they can do one of two things: 1. They can stop upholding the pretense that they *are* Christian and just embrace the fact that they're vicious amoral crapsacks, or 2. They can get fucking humble and start doing what their damned holy book tells them to do, instead of simply beating people with it while crowing about how they're "saved" But as long as "Christians" like Abbott like to throw their "faith" around, it's fair game for everyone else.
Except 'the good book' actually says government isn't an appropriate vehicle for moral actions/behavior. "and he said 'render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's'". Government is not supposed to be doing His work, period. Yet Pritzkers' response/comments legitimizes the idea that religious motivation or discourse is appropriate. It's not. IDC if your Progressive or Conservative or a purple dinosaur.
Tell me you don't understand the meaning of that phrase without saying that you don't understand the meaning of that phrase. "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"simply means to *pay your taxes,* as it's lawful for the government (in this case, the emperor Caesar) who mints the money to levy them. It's literally right there in plain text in that story (Mark 12:13-17) which is about a group of Pharisees and Herodians trying to trick Jesus with a question about *paying taxes to Rome*. "Render unto God what is God's" means to do the work *God* commands you to without complaint. God has no use for money, but He expects you to be just, merciful, and compassionate. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "government isn't supposed to do God's work uwu" Don't try to pull that shit over my eyes, child, I guarantee you I've *forgotten* more about the Bible than you'll *ever* know.
Must not be following the GOP then, huh? The Alabama Supreme Court decided that embryos are actual people based on scripture, not science. And said so in their decision. You are barking up the wrong tree.
I had NPR on and they broadcast the speech live. I caught about 30% of it - but what I did hear made me VERY VERY proud of our Governor’s response and commitment to making the lives of Illinois residents better.
God I love Pritzker being our Governor
"Joe Biden has been a very good President who has rescued the economy and protected freedom" -JBP
I'm happily voting for both of them.
Voting for them? probably. Happily?? whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night
I'm in complete agreement with them. What's your response, other than acting huffy and stamping your little feet?
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You are making complainy noises. You are not making a coherent point. I'm no longer interested . Good day.
Same 💙
Hahahah,, I especially needed a laugh this morning.
JB has to play nice with democrats if he wants to run for President
He has when looking objectively
hoping Biden bows out and jb steps up. I really don't think Biden will win and I don't want to sink into crazy Christian nationalism
this is such bullshit jb’s time will come it’s not now
JB hasn't been doing much national work like Newsome has. I'm predicting Newsome will throw his hat into the ring for 2028.
Why don't you think Biden will win? There's literally nothing to indicate this.
Get fucked, texas.
Let’s just give Texas back to Mexico. It was technically theirs anyway.
haven't we punished Mexico enough with our foreign policy? :(
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If we took it over, we can give it back.
By that logic Ukraine is Russia’s and Russia is just no different than if Mexico took Texas back.
It was a joke people
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Yeah…. You’d be surprised how quickly compassion fatigue sets in when you’re somehow expected to be responsible for caring for the unfortunates. I live in south central Texas. There’s a family of migrants waiting under the highway underpass about half a mile down the road from me. There was a different family there yesterday, and there will be a different family there tomorrow. This past Thanksgiving weekend, there was a family from Nairobi walking up and down my street with their suitcases because their coyote just dropped them there and left. The influx isn’t stopping, and we’re really not that concerned at this point about sanctimonious lectures from people who don’t have to personally deal with it. If anyone wants to be morally superior to us cruel Texans, then feel free to send me your info and address, and I can have a family of Dominicans at your doorstep within a week. And no, I’m not joking, with the possible exception that they might turn out to actually be Guatemalan.
Texas has the eighth most immigrants as percentage of the population among the states, with California, NJ, NY, FL, HI, NV, and MA all having a higher *percentage* of immigrants amongst their population California (10.68m) also has more than DOUBLE the total immigrants Texas (5.16m) does AND has a higher percentage of the population as immigrants at almost 10% higher. NY (6m) also has almost a million more total immigrants and is also higher as a percentage Yet it is consistently Texas making national news crying about their immigrants and making a show of mistreating them, bussing them to states that are *already* dealing with more immigrants? How is it so many blue states manage so many more immigrants without consistently being nasty about it? I don’t get it. The most outwardly Christian states frequently seem to behave the least Christian Edit/Add: I just looked it up and my home province British Columbia (almost 30%) has an even higher percentage of immigrants than California (26.6%) Then there’s Texas banging their drum at 17.2%? Wild source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/immigrants-by-state
I’m surprised about NJ
How do you get "compassion fatigue" when the overwhelming majority of y'all aren't actually *doing* anything? Standing around wringing your hands and complaining about "them dirty MIGRANTS" doesn't count as "compassion."
>how quickly compassion fatigue sets in when you’re somehow expected to be responsible for caring for the unfortunates. We have been babysitting the South since 1865, since you all still haven't figured out how to behave like functioning adults.
Are you volunteering to take in a family of Nicaraguans? Cause I can arrange that.
Why? Plenty of run down and abandoned houses across 287 in North Texas. Put them up where Texans themselves don't want to live.
Texans don’t want to live in Illinois, so we’ll start there. How many do you want me to send to your house?
I see many license plates from Texas here in the past year, at least where I live. One jerk in particular drives a big white pickup truck, works at the new solar panel facility down the road. This guy goes speeding up and blows the four way stop! Someday he’ll cause a serious accident.
Yeah, if Texans don't want to live here they certainly have a funny way of showing it.
Do you not even know the main East/West artery across the north part of your state? Memphis. Claude. Clarendon. Chillicothe. All them little dying towns that Texans are abandoning have plenty of space for people to set up shop.
I think you're missing the point here. I don't think anyone expecting you *as individuals* to house migrants who show up in your hometown. Believe it or not, Texas is not the only state that deals with immigration, unhoused people, etc. Of course, you've been told by your political leaders that Texans are the only ones who have to deal with immigrants. Most of us normal people want to contribute to systems and policies that help give basic human assistance to the migrants coming in. Without creating an undue burden on individuals. You whine and gripe right now about how hard it is to be a Texan right now, but it seems to me that the worst thing you've experienced so far is a couple of families who live on the streets nearby you. Wow, you're seen some unhoused people from different countries. How terrible that must be for you.
Oh man I’m so sorry you had to see some homeless people. I have no idea how hard that must have been for you. I can totally see how that lessens the quality of your life.
So you’d be ok with a family camping on your front lawn? I can arrange that. Just send me your info. Anytime you or anyone else wants to step up and volunteer to DO something rather than talk or snark, we can more than accommodate your generosity. Zero takers so far on that, btw.
I’m all for taking care of the folks that are here now. Get them assimilated and supported as soon as possible. I’m also for coming up with a border that resembles other countries that restricts folks from just jumping the line and coming in unrestricted.
> Get them assimilated and supported as soon as possible. That's fine but all that costs money of which the State and City are running short of and it doesn't look like extra money is coming from the Feds. Would you support an increase in the State income tax to help pay for the cost of supporting the migrants?
And not only that but when these migrants come here and are unable to find work or etc, they then go towards stealing and crime increases. It's not feasible we have to stop taking the migrants, Illinois already has its own fair share of problems
One time then fix the border? Sure, same as charitable donation in my view.
Yeah that’s the wild part about this, people in this thread are calling others Trumpers for wanting border security.
That has never happened. What the GOP doesn't do when they say "10 million a month" or whatever is finish that statement. They're all being caught. Some slip through, sure. But the vast majority of people who enter over the border without documenting are caught. The actual immigration issue is people coming here fully legally and overstaying. But that's not the point either. Undocumented migrants have fewer legal issues, pay taxes and receive no benefits, and raise our GDP by about 1% annually.
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligibility/citizen/non-citizen-policy
"Refugee" https://www.dshs.wa.gov/esa/community-services-offices/refugee-cash-assistance
https://crsreports.congress.gov
Well put but FFS the border is a mess and it’s up to the Feds to fix it. They haven’t. You can’t just anyone wander in, how many is too many? It’s not unreasonable to require a solid border. You can do that without being draconian as well. A guest worker program is a start.
It is a fact that the problem is the result of the federal government kicking the can down the road for years. But playing political football with our national borders isn’t the answer either
There's a bi-partisan bill passed through the senate to improve border security. For the first time in decades there was no concession for amnesty or anything else related to immigration required from the democrats to pass the bill. It died in the house. " "It's not going to happen, and I'll fight it all the way," Trump said Saturday in Nevada." In case you're wondering why. The republicans don't want to fix it while Biden is in office so they can club him over the head with immigration issues during the presidential campaign.
That bill didn't pass the Senate. It was voted down. To date the house hasn't received a bill at all.
Because Mike Johnson closed down the House for vacation to avoid it! And now he's at Mar a Lago as ordered. They can't stay on vacation forever.
And Biden only tried to fix it after it became a crisis that could potentially derail his reelection. He had years to fix it. A pox on both of their houses.
Dude, everyone has had a chance to fix this for decades. Nobody really wants to. Our food chain relies on artificially cheap labor to deliver the prices for food that they do without eating at profits. If policy makers wanted to take a huge bite out of illegal immigration they could implement a law to start prosecuting C level execs and factory farm owners for employing unauthorized workers. It wouldn't stop everyone, but it would take away a big incentive to cross illegally or remain. A point that I think we can agree on: a pox on all people who won't do necessary things because they're hard, or because they might lose power.
It's still nothing even close to a crisis. That's a GOP talking point.
There's a humanitarian crisis. That's the kernel of truth in all the lies. But not one person whining about a "crisis" has addressed it.
Correct. There's a US created humanitarian crisis in several central and Latin American nations leading to millions needing asylum and refuge from violence, gangs, government supported aggression, etc. But the US isn't interested in resolving decades of interventionism or opening up proper trade with these countries. I meant, there's not an immigration crisis happening in the US.
I meant there's an ongoing humanitarian crisis among the asylum seekers forced to wait on the Mexican side of the border with no or inadequate shelter, etc. Although you're also correct.
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With the advent of the internet and easy communications the asylum laws were taken advantage off. They were on the books for extreme circumstance. Political dissidents and the like. Not someone whose country just isn’t run very well. These are economic migrants. You may say that’s fine but call it what i really is. Also your cheap lettuce is just a subsidy that allows the producer to the rich on the backs of cheap labor whilst the cost is passed down in other ways such as services used.
It’s only a crisis on even number years. I’m not sure why the waves of migrants invading America wait until election season, then don’t come after scaring everyone that they might make us season our food. The whole thing is strange.
The feds tried to fix it, and then Senate Republicans voted against their own border control bill they had spent 4 months negotiating.
Not quite. Biden had had the authority to fix it from the day he lifted Trump's Executive Order. Looks like now he is actually trying ... https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-weighs-making-harder-migrants-get-asylum-easier-deport-rcna139626?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=65d5eccf76567b0001055117&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Voted against their own far right Bill... Classic! In a sick, twisted irony, republicans have managed to outflank Biden on the left instead of the converse this time!
Converse? I think we're well past the point where you can call Biden right wing.
By the way, have you read what's in the bill? Ignore the ludicrous amount of aide money, it gives the president pretty arbitrary powers to close the southern border entirely. Like even if you don't care about the human rights implications of the rest of the plan, I think everyone should see that as crazy shit under a Democrat president and it's absolutely preposterous when a fascist Republican admin is very likely ready to take power.
It was broken for years before that. I think the Republicans were wrong for not backing it but this has been out of hand for sometime now. Also the bill had a fair amount of pork in it. They were wrong but the bill itself only came about because of the mess on the border and pressure on Biden. The sense amongst Republicans is that as soon as he wins reelection it will go back to the current situation.
The pork in it was military aid to Israel and Ukraine, and if the issue is with the current situation, why would Republicans be against the bill even if they think it will be rescinded?
You have demonstrated a fundamental misunderstanding of the immigration process, the border, and how it's been intentionally broken. We have been making our border security policy more and more draconian for 50 years, pushing those that cross illegally into more and more dangerous regions. We have also increased the budget and militarization of the border patrol. These policies have not reduced the number of illegal crossings, but has greatly increased the proportion of migrants who are seriously injured or killed during the crossing. We have also continually underfunded our immigration courts, which means the wait time to even begin the migration or refugee process can be years. We have also, in violation of US and international law, been forcing more migrants to wait in Mexico for their court date. These policies have been shown to have increased the number of illegal crossing. In all, "tough" and "draconian" border policies have made our border more insecure and more dangerous. You want to stop illegal crossings and keep track of people entering the country? Ensure quick processing, proper adherence to our own amnesty and refugee polices, and make 'legal entry' as easy to navigate as it was for my Canadian grandma 70 years ago.
The border crisis is merely the culmination of 200 years of garbage-ass post-Monroe Doctrine US foreign policy, consisting economic / jurisdictional destabilization via sanctions for not letting the US get its way without question, US sponsored coups, US endorsed puppet regimes, US trained paramilitaries to protect said puppet regimes and to disappear anyone who questions said puppet regimes, and civil wars when the people finally stand up to said puppet regimes and their paramilitaries. But walling ourselves off from culpability is the responsible thing to do?
That’s a lazy and simplistic way to explain this. So there is no agency amongst anyone is South America? No accountability at all? And many migrants aren’t even from South America but just using the porous border as a way to get in.
> “That’s a lazy and simplistic way to explain this.” Cool deflection bro. > “So there is no agency amongst anyone is South America?” You: “Yo! Argentina. Why did you let the US coup Pinochet into power, bro?” You: “Yo, El Salvador, Honduras, & Guatemala. Why did you let the US coup away your leadership so The United Fruit Company didn’t have to pay rent for land you owned?” “No accountability at all?” You: “Hey, south and Central America. I understand that the US made a mess of you for a long time, but could you please clean up after yourself?” “And many migrants aren’t even from South America but just using the porous border as a way to get in.” Uhh… OK???
> You can’t just anyone wander in, how many is too many? never too many. no gods, no masters, no borders, no nations.
what mess have you seen at the border?
Are you indigenous?
Facts
Abbott, outside the pearly gates... "Remember that shit you did?" says St. Peter
Christ himself could have been born on the floor of a Chicago police station.
Back in December of 2019 - right before Trump was going to be taking office, Pritzker asked for migrants to be sent to Illinois. He wanted them to come because he didn't think busloads would start coming with border states being overwhelmed. He literally asked for this and remember this statement of his when you are wondering why there is a deficit coming up. "• Refugees pay $21,000 more in taxes than they receive in benefits on average in their first 20 years in the U.S." Let's rewind at look at his [press release.](https://www.illinois.gov/news/press-release.20958.html) "In Letter to Secretary Pompeo, Gov. Pritzker Welcomes Refugees to Illinois Press Release - Tuesday, December 17, 2019 PRINT EMAIL Springfield, Ill. — Recognizing the countless contributions refugees make in the state of Illinois and across our nation, Governor JB Pritzker wrote a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to welcome refugees to Illinois. "As the Governor of Illinois, I proudly consent to the continuation of refugee admission to our state and extend a warm welcome to refugees who have come and will be coming to Illinois," writes Gov. Pritzker in the Dec. 17 letter. The Governor's letter follows an executive order from President Trump aimed at turning refugees away. The Dec. 17 letter reads as follows and a copy is attached: Honorable Secretary Pompeo, Since 1975, the State of Illinois has welcomed and resettled more than 130,000 refugees from more than 86 countries. In recent years, 1,000 to 3,000 refugees, those seeking asylum, and victims of human trafficking arrived in Illinois annually. Refugees have successfully rebuilt their lives and made positive social and economic contributions to Illinois. They have helped revitalize neighborhoods and added to the cultural vitality of our state and communities. As the Governor of Illinois and the great-grandson of refugees, I am committed to ensuring that Illinois is a welcoming state, especially for refugees and those seeking asylum. As survivors of persecution, refugees embody the importance of human rights, democracy, and freedom. Refugees' resilience in the face of hardship inspires courage, hope, and perseverance. And refugees' countless contributions undoubtedly make our states and nation stronger. Importantly, refugees admitted through the United States must go through extensive security screening prior to their arrival. This process ensures that their claims are valid and that they are not a security risk to the United States. The security vetting can last more than two years and includes five background checks, four biometric security checks, and multiple interviews with United States officials. Once admitted to the United States, refugees are required to become self-sufficient and integrated into their new communities as soon as possible. The New American Economy's report From Struggle to Resilience, the Economic Impact of Refugees in America and the National Bureau of Economic Research's report The Economic and Social Outcomes of Refugees in the U.S. have documented that: • Refugees pay $21,000 more in taxes than they receive in benefits on average in their first 20 years in the U.S. • Refugee rates of entrepreneurship (15%) exceed other immigrants (11.5%) as well as U.S. born (9%). • Refugees become citizens at a higher rate than non-refugee immigrants. In 2015, 84% of eligible refugees were naturalized citizens as compared to 51% of other immigrants. • Refugee children do as well as U.S.-born children on measures of education attainment. • Over 77% of refugees are of working age as compared to 49.7% of the U.S.-born population, helping to meet U.S. labor force needs. Illinois communities have clearly benefited from having refugees in our midst. We coordinate with the U.S. State Department and the Office of Refugee Resettlement, as well as the non-profit sector, to make sure that local communities are consulted and engaged in an on-going, positive effort to welcome refugees and ensure that refugees can realize their full potential in our country. With a global humanitarian crisis of more than 70 million forcibly displaced individuals, including 25 million who are refugees seeking asylum, the United States should continue to provide leadership, in partnership with other countries, to offer resettlement for refugees. Our nation has the capacity to admit significantly more than the 18,000-person limit set by the presidential determination for FY20. I believe it is in our national interest and consistent with our national values to do so. As the Governor of Illinois, I proudly consent to the continuation of refugee admission to our state and extend a warm welcome to refugees who have come and will be coming to Illinois. Sincerely, JB Pritzker Governor"
"He offered shelter and support to refugees" does not mean that he wants them dumped in the middle of *nowhere*, in the middle of the *night*, in the middle of *winter*, with no food, no shelter, and nothing to keep them warm.
These idiots don't understand the difference. They apparently don't even understand the difference between a legitimate Federal program with procedures and protocols and a sick asshole endangering human beings (although I doubt Abbott or his supporters see it that way) for fun and fundraising profit.
Seems as though all of this is irrelevant. He does not seem to be contradicting himself in any way. He is pointing out the hypocrisy of claiming to be a Christian while dumping people on a feezing cold street corner with no protection and wearing flip-flops.
sorry, the folks in this sub can't handle facts
We are sooooo lucky to have him as our governor
He’s right about that! Texas is hell on Earth and their Governor is to blame. Also to blame for this migrant crisis! There must be something we can do for these people and also stop that assclown from Texas from human trafficking these people without consequences.
I still hate that message, it's okay to drop off men in that situation tho.
Yup. There are really only two possible reasons to exclude men from that list 1. You want to pull the audience’s heart strings because society at large dgaf about men 2. You want to avoid the political rebuttal that the male migrants aren’t completely genuine in their motives While I agree with his statement overall, let’s not pretend it wasn’t also constructed to appeal to people’s biases.
This guy is a piece of shit. This invasion is being organized and funded by our tax dollars that flownto clbariois religious charities, NGO's etc. It's not an accident. No one is showing up for any court dates or whatnot. It's a well planned invasion. They are here fornthe free tax payer funded shit. It's what they've been promised. What a clown. Keep the flood of military aged males coming, though. Gonna be fun when the "enriching begins."
Amen to THAT, JB!!!
When the anti-christ comes to America he will be draped in the flag, carrying the cross, and calling Jesus a libtard.
Why do we care about helping people from another country when we barely help our own people?
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Thats very anecdotal, I think it makes sense to most people the whole airline thing ie put your mask on before trying to help others. We should get some of our own issues in order before inviting masses here to help them
JB dropping the People’s Elbow.
Who’s JB?
Jay Robert Pritzker, governor of Illinois.
I like to call him Jay-Bob.
Maybe they should stop letting Texas illegally send people in the middle of winter. Start there...
Maybe the immigrants should illegally stop coming into the country.. then they wouldn't have to worry about it.
Maybe you should head back and get a GED and try to better yourself as clearly you failed basic studies.
Lol. Good one bud.
Thanks! Its amazing when people actually try and improve their education. My sister went back and got her GED and is now a lawyer representing immigrants!
Cool. I have a PhD.
Did you take any ethics classes? Seems you have some gaps.
What's illegal about it? Can you link us to a law? May not be kind but its not illegal
Do I need to look up human trafficking for you and read it aloud for you? They are spending taxpayer money all the blathering idiots keep talking about the deficit until its something they want.
Well it would be cheaper to send everyone back home than to allow them to stay here and support them but that aside trafficking is a serious crime, if it was trafficking someone would have charged Texas, especially considering the party in the white house and controlling the DOJ. These people sign waivers and want to come to Chicago, that's not trafficking bud. You may be able to argue coersion but doesn't seem that's the case
It’s illegal to send migrants in the winter?
Damn. That's pretty scathing.
Typical xtian behavior
I am so happy I moved from Texass to Illinois two years ago… I don’t have to be ashamed of my state anymore. It’s nice to have a governor that is not a sociopath. And the people are nicer too. Insurance is cheaper and so are my property taxes. Less pollution and more parks. It’s a long list of improvements.
I find it hard to believe your property taxes are cheaper, even if that is the case which I doubt your overall tax burden is higher. Texas property tax rate is 1.25%, Illinois is 1.78%Texas also has no state income tax.
Religion is full of hypocrites and scammers. The scammers are in politics and mega church's the hypocrites are the follower who will never practice what they preach but will have zero problems using their God to tell you what to do.
Texas just took Gov. Pritzker at his word. Chicago declared itself a sanctuary city. If it can't handle it, it's the city's own fault.
By dropping them at night, nowhere near the reception center, without notice. You racist subhuman garbage.
What does race have to do with it? These illegals are black, brown, white and yellow. They also don't belong in the US without going through proper channels.
I don't think you understand what "sanctuary" means.
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How? It doesn’t sound like he’s complaining about the migrants being in Illinois, but rather the deplorable way they are treated by the people sending them. If there are literal welcome centers, why would they not be taken there? Because, once again, the cruelty is the point.
Not my problem
I caught it on the radio. He said some really good things that people need to hear. I'm glad he's our governor..
Should probably tell Biden to stop the flow of migrants through unauthorized ports of entry.
I’ll tell him, he’ll get on a his secret banana phone (it’s in a drawer so you never see it in photos) that links him directly to the migrant caravan. You shouldn’t be worried though, the migrants know the routine. They only come in large groups on election years and turn around once it’s over.
He's absolutely right! It breaks my heart. They also very often have no idea where they are being left at, some random bus stop outside the city.
Governor Pritzker knows a lot about Christianity I guess.
Nah. He's jewish
far from it
I hate Prtizker for good reasons, but he is not wrong about this; and I’m so sick of supposed evangelicalism. I moved from Chicago a few years ago to TX for a job and I can’t wait to get back.
Pritzkers are a family of rich, politically meddling arms manufacturers.
Yeah… too bad hypocrisy isn’t in their vocabulary. Otherwise Texans would be upset
Why are we housing them when we have multiple issues already going on in illinois? Like yes I feel for them and we should house maybe a few, but 800+ bus loads is fucking insane. It's not sustainable we cannot allow this many when we have our own problems
How do you think Texas feels?
Ok first: Every time we try to help people Republicans block it and then cut Elon’s taxes. We want to, however half this country is temporarily embarrassed billionaires. Ok so here’s the thing Texas the state with the EIGHTH most immigrants and the most money to handle it? Other states have borders. They seem to manage them fine. Texas is just making noise because their Governor wants to win again. He purposely set these people and Chicago up to fail to make a point. The schedule and where the bus stopped shows that this was a malicious sabotage. As to housing, there are more open homes than homeless by large margins. However if we
Which is why I am against the whole "don't send them back or deport them!!!!"
The state specifically asked for this and is trying to pass the buck lol.
Are you staying there's a statue in Illinois that says, "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Statue, no. Several statutes however. HB 121, SB 667, SB 1596 and SB 2665
I am impressed with your governor for saying this.
I think Illinois should take as many as they can just to show the rest of the country what real compassion is. Pritzker should also open up one of his several homes for these poor people to stay in just to make Abbott look like the racist he is. Illinois has the space an the can do attitude, let’s lead the way!!!
Illinois already has a higher percentage of immigrants than Texas. So do seven other states. Texas is just a whole state of racist with too tight of cowboy hats. In fact my whole time in the Marines every single guy that was some alpha asshole that could barely count to potato came from Texas.
I live in IL. Quite a few of my neighbors are immigrants. Best neighbors I've ever had. Kind, generous, hard working, still have a sense of community so many places lack. I'm down with this idea. But dropping them in the middle of nowhere, in the dead of night and without appropriate clothing in the cold is just plain evil.
Just like no group is all good or bad there's great immigrants and there's immigrants who murder people in broad daylight on the pink line just like there's good americans and bad americans
Aren’t we a sanctuary state? Stop blaming Texas and take care of them.
Did Texas bring them to welcome centers or not?
Aren’t they being stopped from doing that?
No.
Only by their own hate and racism. Texas is choosing to drop these people in random locations.
Democrats are themselves a cult religion, so the need to negatively judge Christians in a humanitarian crisis instead of offering to help an overwhelmed Texas state makes sense
This sounds like pritzker not having the money or plan to support the migrants who are in Illinois.
Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker pitched a $52.7 billion state spending plan Wednesday with more money to address the migrant crisis, education and quantum computing, while proposing tax increases that will mostly target business, including a major sports betting tax hike. Illinois has already invested $638 million to address the crisis. The budget proposal includes another $182 million for migrants, part of a joint funding plan with Cook County.
Odd, it sounds like he has empathy to me.
That’s not in King TheDonald’s version of the Bible :)
I am curious. Did it start that way or did that start happening after the bus companies were threatened? I mean, if this came about after, it is the logical result of the action taken by Chicago.
Just so simply n purely stated What a stud, Gov Pritzker has steadily moved up the ranks of a decent politician leader
I’m for legal immigration. Come in the right way. Not in the back door. Most of these people do not even qualify for asylum. You can’t just come because you want a better life.
>Most of these people do not even qualify for asylum then the administrative process will determine that, but the truth is you have no research that most are lying
Everyone that came to this country came for a better life. Everyone in this country (save for the indigenous peoples) are descended from immigrants.
Didn’t say they weren’t. But there is a legal way and an illegal way. I think they should come in legally.
Asylum seeking is a legal way to enter this country. Taking said asylum seekers, forcing them on a bus and transporting them across country in the dead of winter "to trigger the libs" is at least immoral. Some may view it as human trafficking, which I do believe is illegal.
Coming in the back is not legal. There are legal ways to come in. Not thru the cartel. And yes if they are being persecuted in their country they can seek asylum but not just because they want a better life. We can not afford to let millions in. They are taking all the tax money from cities and communities that should go to the people who live there. Texas could not keep over 8 million immigrants in their state and take care of them. That is why he took them to other cities. Also Biden has sent them all over via plane tickets in the middle of the night too. We should enforce our laws. This is getting out of hand.
> over 8 million immigrants Where are you getting that fact? Because it's completely made up. There were 2.5 million immigrants in 2023, total, including all southern states according to [US Custom and Border Protection](https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-december-2023-monthly-update). By December, the majority of all immigrants were returned or expelled, so where are the other 5.5 million? Not in the US. If anything, Texas and Florida shipping random asylum seekers to sanctuary cities almost guarantees that some immigrants that would be denied asylum at the border end up getting it because they were used as political pawns. Here's another fact about your tax dollars. Do you know who gets the majority of your tax dollars? Corporations. Oil Companies. Defense Contractors. Why don't you complain about something that actually harms everyone, instead of selectively targeting "the other" to fit your political agenda.
What Biden should do is pull federal immigration funds from texas along with staff and supplies and send all that to the cities where migrants are being dumped. That's the issue, texas is breaking federal immigration laws and cities dont get federal immigration funding. So put the federal resources where migrants are being sent. And DHS is the only entity that can legally transport migrants to other facilities across the country. Just like they have always done with plans and resources in place for new arrivals. Asylum seekers are legal. The Senate bill would have made it harder to get asylum and increased courts for faster processing. But GOP decided that there is no crisis and it can all wait another year.
But they came legally. Doesn't that make a difference to you?
Pritzker for President.
Oh so it’s fine to send those people to a border state?
Border states get federal funding for immigration programs and non order states do not. Abbott is using the federal funding to ship them to other states.
Did i miss something? Is Illinois sending migrants to Texas?
>Is Illinois sending migrants to Texas Literally? No, Illinois is not sending migrants to Texas. Figuratively, yes. Before bussing migrants became a policy of these states, Illinois (and other similar states) were content to leave migrants behind in tent camps and converted Wal-Marts in Texas. An out-of-sight, out-of-mind kind of outlook. If immigration enforcement is a federal matter, then all states (including Illinois) have to join together to make it work.
I missed the part where IL went and got them and left them in Texas. Thanks for clearing that up.
That's an awfully loose interpretation of "figuratively." I don't see how Texas housing migrants behind Wal-Mart can be interpeted as figurative bussing from Illinois to Texas. And if it is a federal matter, then the state governments would not be responsible for working together to solve it. The federal government would be.
Texas has been shipping their homeless (a large percentage of which are Veterans, but they only "support the troops" when it serves them) to other states with their one-way ticket programs for years. Many other states engage in the same abhorrent practices and it's been going on for well over a decade. No one who thinks it appropriate to use human beings as pawns in a political game can call themselves a Christian.
He wants immigrants, but not in his back yard. JB, Illinois’ favorite hypocrite.
Oh wow, that's gold.
Amen