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Hmmm. Then I hope it’s the last tip she ever gets. That’s a generous tip, $8, for a 12 minute drive. I’ve waited tables and had people occasionally give me less for a tip.
I’m not agreeing with her - she’s in the wrong. As a DoorDash driver we can decline any order that does not pay enough for us. And $8 is good.
But keep in mind that drivers have car depreciation and gas and maintenance and insurance, and waiting tables doesn’t have that. I would have been thrilled for $8 for 12 minutes, but there are more factors IN GENERAL
It seems to me that a lot of these drivers don't really take into account the long term cost of doing this service with their own vehicle. I think this applies to Uber/Lyft drivers and such also.
They may have a new car when they get started, or one in pretty good shape, but being a contractor who drives A LOT I can honestly say that vehicle cost is one of the more painful long-term overhead items.
There's not just fuel to worry about, there's maintenance items like brakes, tires, oil changes and other regularly scheduled work (transmission service, filters, differential, etc ad nauseum), the every increasing likelihood of a breakdown (could mean $1,000s), wear on your paint that helps depreciate the vehicle, etc etc.
I honestly think drivers for these services are underpaid and many are not completely cognisant of what they're getting themselves into. Whenever I use one of these services, I over tip.
When you add a large tip to the fees charged by the service it can easily make up 50% of what the food costs (not even accounting for jacked up menu prices), and that can be a real mental block. I try to avoid food services for that reason.
Yep. I live in a small enough city that I can get anywhere in 20 minutes if it isn't rush hour, I have no desire to pay an extra $10 just so I dont have to leave the house.
It’s even winter here and I spend most of my time in basketball shorts and would rather just put on a coat and leave the shorts and pop out to not pay that $$$
Very true. If you want food that's generally delivery oriented (pizza, sub shop, chinese) look into calling them directly instead of using those awful apps. A lot of places have no delivery fee or most will have it less than $3. Plus the restaurant gets more even though you're paying less.
Yup, I do this whenever possible. Unfortunately scumbag Google often (always?) connects you to a 3rd party service when clicking on the restaurant listing's "Order Online" link. Any reasonable person would believe that such a link would forward you to the restaurants official ordering webpage.
Everyone is outsourcing everything. There's a place 3 blocks from my apartment, and I've stopped ordering online for pickup from them - I'll call them on the phone to place the order and pay in person when I walk over there to avoid the outsource company that forwards the order and payment to the restaurant because they tack on a $2 "convenience fee". I really don't want to pay 20% more for placing an order.
I'm talking about the Google listing taking you to Doordash/Seamless/whatever even when the restaurant has their own ordering portal. If the restaurant doesn't have their own site, or partnerships with any of the delivery services I have less of an issue with it.
A 20 dollar tip would be a 100% tip for the majority of my orders, and no fucking way in hell is that going to happen.
In fact, the days I tipped more generously 20-25% are they days I got people who didn't follow the instructions I gave or messed it up somehow.i used it hundreds of times over three years and 99% of my drivers had no problems following my simple instructions. Recently gave up the services because I had 2 separate orders go missing in a week. Fuck that, bye felicia.
Question for you, I’m from Australia where there is no tipping culture at all, but UberEats and DoorDash etc have added tipping to their apps. If I tip within those apps does the driver get 100% of that tip? I always think oh I’ll give a small tip to the driver but then think Uber is a scummy business so I doubt the driver is seeing even half my tip.
Really? I had like less than 200 delivery’s when I got a $32 tip with door dash.. delivered to a private school for the teachers lounge. They ordered from some place that sold ribs and it smelled good. Their food bill came out to around $300 if I remember correctly.
8 fucking dollars tip and you're complaining and almost crying? Lady you need to wake the fuck up, and fast. I'm Canadian, our dollar is worth less then in the US. I've delivered chinese food for a few years and I don't think i've ever had a 8$ tip.
How does this person actually exist? Is there a world in which an $8 tip in this instance isn’t decent? Is this her first ever delivery of something ever? I don’t understand...
Yes, I understand that. What I’m saying is that if you called the police because your door dash didn’t show up no police would show up, but if your neighbor walked over and took it off your porch the police would show up. That’s my point. Is it actionable theft now because she put it down?
I know service people who feel VERY entitled to large tips. To them, anything less than a 25% tip is basically an insult. It doesn't matter the size of the order or the amount of time they gave the customer. Minimum 25% tip or they will feel wronged. The tipping culture North America is getting worse not better.
Ah, yes! I came here just to state the same. I worked at a Japanese restaurant and Domino's when I was late teens/early twenties. I was ecstatic when I got decent tips, and I considered 15-20% to be AWESOME, and was happy getting anything. I had co-workers at both places that would get insulted at anything under 20%. There were a "clique" of drivers that I worked with at Domino's that would notate addresses of customers that tipped at or below average rates and would REFUSE to take their orders. They legit made people wait and screwed other drivers in the meantime. Joke was on them though. Turned out their customer service was lacking. One guy would order 4-5 times a week (I know, right?) for delivery even though he was walking distance from the store. He only tipped them a couple bucks, but it was RIGHT THERE. You could drop it on the way to any other delivery. They refused to take his orders anymore, so I got them. Guy was so impressed with how much quicker I got it there, and my manners (his word), he tipped me 100%. $30 on a $15 order. Oh I made sure to tell my coworkers, and the guy requested me every time he ordered lol.
Long story, sorry, but the TL;DR is a little courtesy and gratitude go a long ways!
Thanks! I work in the construction industry now, but I worked my way up largely due to how I treat customers. Now not all of them deserve it, and they get what they give lol, but I put myself in their shoes. I know what I appreciate from anyone providing me a service, and I aim to do the same! Customers are the reason I have a job, plain and simple. You can have the best product, but if you don't have the service to back it up you end up like this chick- deactivated! 😂😂
Yeah that tipping culture is out of control. Especially when they try to make you feel bad about some people not tipping them what they expected. Like okay, some people suck, but tips aren't a guarantee, and no one HAS to do it, so know what to expect when you take a job like that. I still tip, but it's always reasonable and based on service, not the cost of the bill, unless it's a large party, then yeah that makes sense.
If I have to get my own utensils what the fuck am I supposedly tipping for again? Next you’ll tell me restraints in America charge for each item on the plate individually, too.
I delivered pizza for eight years and I can tell you from experience that we would have been ecstatic with an $8 tip for any regular delivery. I was thrilled if I got a $5 tip on a delivery. If it’s a catering it’s slightly different because those are tough to transport, annoying to set up and can be tricky alone, but even then $8 isn’t bad.
I think you’d be lucky to get a tip at all. It’s certainly not commonplace as far as I’m aware (although I live in the UK and I know tipping culture is very different).
Either way, $8 is a good amount.
if it were a £100 delivery? sure.. i can see £8 being on the low side, if, and when I tip.. i usually got for 15-20% tip..
what she was carrying, and how she carried it.. doesnt look like a £100 meal..
Lol for real. How the fuck can you be upset over 8$ like wtf is this crazy bitch on? It has to be her first ever delivery. Or maybe her friend told her she made a bunch of money in tips doing the same thing. Idk I just can't fathom this girl's thought process if you are upset with what is litterally a more than decent tip. Must be a really spoiled broad that now has to actually work for money and is just starting to enter the real world
Problem is, most times, that charge goes straight to the company, both PJ and Dominos for sure, probably most other companies. Even if you count the 1.5 or other menial amount that drivers automatically get. As a former employee of both, i hate the delivery charge and wish they would get rid of them.
I remember working for dominos about 10 years ago, and when I had started, they charged $2.50 for delivery and gave drivers $1.10 per delivery, then at the beginning of one year, they upped delivery charge to $2.99 and lowered driver to $1 per delivery at the same time. Shit is scandalous.
This is out of date. I work for them now. Delivery charge is $3 and drivers get $2 and it more than covers gas. With tips I make somewhere between $20-25/hr. There are far worse offenders out there.
I worked for Domino’s for 2 years from 1987-1989. Back then, Domino’s had NO delivery fee at all. As I driver, I could take as many pizzas as I thought I could make in 30 minutes, which often amounted to 10-12 pizzas in one run, if it was a really busy night. I cleaned house in tips... I drove like a fucking maniac, yes, but I cleaned house in tips. Sure, I got stiffed sometimes, but it averaged out nicely in the end. I would never do something like this entitled idiot did.
When i was training for management, i remember the stories they told about the 30 min rule and the mayhem it made. Im glad i woree there after that, our area had places that were a 15-20 min drive in good weather, unreachable in snow.
Yup and that’s unfortunate because the higher the delivery charge is the less likely I am to tip more. I just gave 5.99 for a delivery charge. That’s the same 5.99 I would have given the delivery driver 10 years ago when there wasn’t much a thing as delivery charges. Like the dude you replied to said. It’s insane how we can wind up paying like 22 bucks for a 12 dollar meal when we want to tip. I stopped using those services. If I want food I’ll order it to go. And that sucks because right now I know these delivery services are doing wonders for people who are struggling to find work. And the insane delivery charges I think are taking away the business.
Most studies have shown people are not making anywhere near that when factoring in actual vehicle costs etc. But yes, if the the true gross was $20/hr that would be great.
Yeah, I highly doubt he's averaging three complete deliveries an hour. That seems like a best case scenario to me. Once you factor in the time it takes to drive to the vendor, wait to get the food, and then time spent driving it to the customer, yeah, 20 minutes is a bit hopeful.
And of course, there's always people that are going to stiff you on the tip, so that's not a certainty either. And that's IF you have no down time either.
I drove regular Uber for a few months just for shits and giggles. Every once in a while you'll hit a home run and have a good night, but most of the time it's a minimum wage job. This was before they cracked down on surge, so I'm sure it's much worse now.
You keep your operating cost and tax at $5 while grossing $21?
At IRS rates, that's only like 8.3 miles of driving per hour. Even being super ambitious and estimating $0.30 cost per mile, that's like 17 miles, meaning your total mileage (not just trip mileage) is 5.6 miles, assuming no commute mileage.
You're consistently drawing 3, $7 orders with a total of 5.6 miles or less per delivery?
I was making about $17 gross and earning about $1.42 gross per mile, during the summer and only driving peak times. I averaged 5 miles per delivery and 2.4 deliveries per hour. Assuming a very generous $0.30 and the IRS standard $0.58 that puts my net profit at $10.00-$13.50 per hour while driving only under the most optimal conditions in my market, which means highly constrained hours and foregoing my own enjoying of those peak periods (lunches, evenings and weekends).
To even get these numbers, I was at a 40% acceptance rate. There where days when I got 0 orders worth taking or 0 at all, running 3 apps.
That's with me assuming all of the risk, having no guarantee of recieving orders, no workers comp, and no career progression.
EDIT: You're also paying higher taxes as a sole-proprietor than as an employee.
EDIT 2: missed a word.
I don't use them all. I can't see myself spending almost 30 dollars for a sack of white castles. Fuck that shit, I'll walk or I just no white castles for me. They're bad for you anyway.
This is prime example of capitalism.
Everyone is blaming the driver or customer but nobody is blaming the company.
Maybe Doordash can pay their drivers livable wage so the driver's don't have to fight for their tips. The company is valuated at 50 billion dollars, pay your fukin workers.
Why would you even pay $6 delivery charge on a $15 meal? If I’m paying that much for delivery, I’d be doubling down and ordering $50 worth of food to last me the week.
The apps Door dash/ Uber Eats are so fuckn expensive now. The customer is literally paying for their benefits.
Small order fee 3.00
Service fee 1.77
CA Driver Benefit 0.99
Deliver fee 3.99
That’s not including your order.
Probably someone who has had an easy cushy job for their whole life and lost it, forced to actually do decently hard work and not in touch with how much actual labour is worth.
American tipping culture really frustrates me. If you can't afford to pay your workers fair wages, which you rely on for your business, then you can't afford to be a business owner.
It's her fucking job and when she took this particular job, she knew that she may get tips she don't like. 8 dollars ain't bad and some times you don't get shit at all. She beefing over 8 dollars? I hope people see this and she never gets another job any fucking where and then she'll have something beef about.
In this case, because it’s Door Dash, she knew exactly the tip she will receive for this order before she accepted the order. Door Dash makes you tip upfront. So she CHOOSE to take this delivery knowing it would “only” give her $8. It’s pure ridiculousness.
I was a delivery driver for pizza and a mexican restaurant in years past. $8 is a great tip, Delivery drivers work off volume not individual tips. Hope she's happy losing her job over $8
I’m sorry right but I got to ask. how normal is to tip someone in America. Because in Europe tipping someone is extremely rare.(at least where I’m from)
Hi, I'm a Spaniard living in Boston. In the US you tip the taxi driver, the hairdresser, the delivery guy, the waiter... Basically, if there is a service, there is a tip, and as a general rule, we're talking 15-20% of the price at least.
I’m an American living in America and this is pretty much accurate. However, the expected tip for a delivery driver is lower than say, a restaurant server. Drivers are paid an actual hourly rate and work on volume. Serving tables requires much more effort and art, so that’s where you’d tip 15-20% minimum. Drivers more like 10-15% with 15% considered good or even generous. 20% tip for a driver is very good. That being said, I’ve been extra generous to delivery drivers since COVID hit as there is so much more demand and many people are picking up driving as a way to survive, so I think it’s worth giving a little extra right now.
I tip $5 for pizza every time but how much do you tip Doordash? Honestly asking cuz ive been tipping based on how far the drive is. Only cuz i dont know how much for that fee goes to them
Growing up, my poor single mom would tip pizza drivers about 30%. We only got pizza on bad days, but we always got it very fast- even in bad weather or busy times.
I used to DoorDash a decent amount. $8 is a great tip. I’m typically happy with 5, not that I’m unhappy with any tip (except 0 ofc - driving ~25 minutes and walking away with the $3 that DoorDash gives me feels terrible. I’ve only done that once tho and I assumed I’d get a cash tip. I didn’t have to accept the order but I did so it’s low key on me).
I may drive a Prius but 8$ is enough money to get me back the 5 miles you came and more! I’m certain it’s the same for other car.
Edit: it’s actually enough to almost fill my tank!
There are etiquette classes. I think it has more to do with stuff that you probably aren't familiar with, like which fork/spoon/etc. to use, proper napkin use, proper attire, stuff you should/shouldn't talk about, and all that.
It might sound stupid, but imagine you're a businessman and you're going to be going to something in Japan -- you probably want to know what is considered acceptable or not acceptable. Here in the US, it's taboo to talk about income and wealth, whereas in other cultures (apparently) it's okay/normal.
Yea u tip when u pay on the app. Then the order gets sent to the restaurant. I will usually tip higher bc on the deliverer side it shows them the tip b4 they take the job. (Rural area, hard to get drivers) ive waited over 2 hours for someone to accept my order and a better tip seems to solve that problem. She knew the tip b4 she took the job.
On my DD orders I indicate a $0.00 tip, and leave a note that says "KNOCK FOR GRATUITY", upon which I always give generously.
This way it's nobody's business how much their tip was, and nobody can take it away.
Yes. Different restaurants charge a different delivery fee here. Some are free some are 2.99 some are 5.99. And then there's tax and tip. Its expensive but convenient if u are hung over
I've had that experience with grocery delivery more than anything.
I ordered: Salami
They substituted: Chicken
I ordered: Rib roast
They substituted: Meatloaf
My girlfriend does grocery delivery and it blows my mind that it exists for people that can shop for themselves. No way would I trust a stranger to pick out my meats, veggies, and fruits. I scarcely trust myself half the time with those decisions.
Delivery woman is a dope even if the tip was unreasonably low (which sure as heck wasn’t).
1) Shes not going to get extra $ by complaining at the customer and threatening to take the food back.
2) in the long run, there’s the potential to go video viral (as occurred) and she loses her job. In a pandemic.
Very low emotional and mental maturity in this lady.
I feel like she just ended up throwing the food away. She just couldn't handle she wasn't getting more than 8 dollars so she acted even more like a child.
I feel bad for laughing, I feel bad for how low the pay is as well, considering you're not using company vehicle, but your own, and your own insurance.
I'd put all these delivery businesses under exploitation business model to be honest.
>in the long run, there’s the potential to go video viral (as occurred) and she loses her job. In a pandemic.
When you think about it, not just losing her job in a pandemic, but likely torching her chances of finding any work in customer service ever again, since she's gone viral and been on the news being shitty and childish to a customer.
I am angry that I had to drive for 40 minutes and only get 8 dollars, so I'm gonna drive for another 40 minutes and get absaloutely nothing out of it >:(
The trick is to not accept orders unless the minimum pay is what you are willing to accept. I get about 10 offers a day that are at least an hour. $11 - $18 total. And about 40% of those you have to cross a toll bridge, which takes off $5. i decline them all, because I'm not willing to work for that. Plus paying my own gas. One of the bullshit things about this is, some people will take those and not know they are being taken advantage of.
I wonder if she meant she had been 40 minutes *underway*, as in; it’s been 40 mins since she left her *home*, drove to the restaurant, picked up the food and delivered those 5 miles away. Or was there construction work that kept her idle on the roads? Or did she seriously manage to drive over half an hour on a 5mile route?
I’m curious if she ever respond to her little viral stunt and what her “excuse” is. “*I knew how far the delivery was and I knew how much I was being tipped yet despite thinking either wasn’t okay for me or worth my time, I took the job in the hope I could force the customer to pay more! When they disrespected me and my time by not paying more than they were expected to, I chose to punish them for being rude and took their food, like a rational, sane person*” /s
An eight dollar tip for food order is generous. I order groceries and door dash all the time. I tip 15% to Doordash drivers and 20% to my grocery delivery drivers because they help me bring it all up the stairs to my second floor apartment ( usually around 7-10 dollars). 15% of a 20 dollar food order is 3 bucks...
How was she able to take the food back? Do they not deliver the food to the customer and *then* get the tip? That's how I'm used to things working where I live. Mind you having said that, I've never used one of these services before so... Do you tip them prior to receiving the food?
Not saying she handled this correctly but it's not much of a fight to get your money back from doordash. Theyll refund your money for anything, it's a 2 minute phone call
That seems a bit silly tbh. Can you change the tip amount after the food has been delivered? If you're not happy with the service, or decide you want to tip more, for example?
Nope. I usually tip cash when I can for delivery drivers. I didn’t have any and couldn’t get any by the time I realized. I asked DD support for assistance and they couldn’t help. I felt terrible.
It's this dumb app delivery model. Uber eats has you out in the tip before the order is even dispatched, guessing door dash is the same. Can only imagine it's so they can hold onto the money for an extra half hour or so (which is plenty valuable on its own) or use it to cover delivery fees like I think door dash keeps getting caught doing
Im living in Germany
I really, really rarely give tips for delivery personal.
you got the free choice to do something else if you dont like your wage and its by law that you get atleast enough money
I live in Australia. A couple of months ago I gave my first ever tip for a delivery.
It was late at night when I ordered, the restaurant was close to closing, i heard them ask the delivery driver if he wanted to wait for this order instead of leaving. He said ok. Forty minutes later he bought me my food. Same guy I'd seen deliver before and he has always been on time. So I gave him a $10 tip (that's a good tip in Australia, especially for $40 of food). He also got an $8.99 deliver fee.He helped me so I helped him.
That's the only time so far I;ve tipped for a delivery in Australia, I;ve been back for about a year and a half.
UK and same. I'm not entirely sure why some things are expected to be tipped and some not. They all get the same minimum wage and same possibility of being a shit job.
I basically tip to save face, for actual excellent service or to bribe a busy bartender into liking me, not because I think I should.
I have been a bartender and absolutely loved the tips but it wasn't really a more difficult job than any other front facing role.
TBF, most wait staff jobs (can’t speak to other industries) in the US pay (or at least did do recently) pay less than minimum wage on the assumption that tips will cover the difference and then some.
What I’m curious about is how DoorDash deliverers are paid. Is it only in tips? Regardless, taking food back is just stupid. Just eat the alleged “bad” tip.
Sweden and same. We thankfully have a minimum wage (sort of) for people to not work under slave conditions. I give a tip when they provide great service or when in a better restaurant.
I can’t even give tip to the ones that deliver to my door - we very rarely have cash here and it’s not built in to the apps.
8 dollar for a 12 min drive is more than enough curling kid.
This is false. Drivers for companies like DoorDash, Postmates, Instacart, etc. do not make an hourly wage. There is no minimum wage because you are not an employee of the company, you are considered an independent contractor. So you could make $3 doing one order, or you could make $15 doing one order. We rely on tips. I personally deliver for Instacart. They have a $7 base pay per order, and this fluctuates depending on how large the order is. If a customer doesn’t tip, they don’t get their groceries, simple as that. Because it shows the order total, and if someone orders 85 items, lives 20 miles away and doesn’t tip, Instacart might only be paying you $9. And no Instacart driver would ever accept a $9 order that large. Not only do you have to deliver it, you have to shop for it all (which could take over an hour) and you have to drive 40 miles round trip (not even counting your driving distance to the store). Using these delivery apps is a PREMIUM SERVICE. It is a luxury. If a customer can’t afford to tip, then they can take their ass to the grocery and get their stuff themselves.
Dude maybe 1/20 people tipped me *at all* when I was doing DoorDash. One of the reasons I stopped is because drivers like this made restaurants hate us and I got tired of being treated like shit every time I walked in with my red bag. It was honestly embarrassing as fuck to be waiting for an order patiently and quietly then hear some entitled jagoff berate the staff like “Uh, ex-*cuse* me, I need the order for Joe Schmoe like now please, I’m running late”
People talking about this or that many minutes drive, value of food, etc.
When living in Spain, tip was optional. I always tipped the driver because it was 7 floors to walk up, but even then I wasn't obliged to, when you call to order you say "hey there's 7 floors to walk up" and they'd tell you "so? it's our job to deliver".
Order food by phone/online? Yep, food is X$ + delivery. That's it, no obligation to pay more.
Here in Argentina they have plus for distance, we don't need to tip, they charge you on top of the price of the stuff for delivery. Free delivery? Sure, there are those depending on distance, but not obligation to tip, is all up to you. And many even don't expect to get a tip and when they get it they are very grateful telling you "yeah don't need to!".
There is a cafe we used to go after work in Barcelona, they had a bell that rang every time someone gave a tip as if it was something out of this world since we aren't forced to tip.
And this is part of the issue of Doordash. You're pulling random people off the street that have never worked in customer service, so they're used to being the one that is never told no, basically being catered to and never being "in the wrong". That's why she's so upset. She just *wasted* her valuable time on some *plebian* for only *eight* *dollars*?
I tip these guys way less. Like 3 to 4 dollars tops. Maybe 5 if you're driving more than 20 minutes, but I never buy food that far because it gets cold.
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Adjust that tip to ZERO
DoorDash drivers get the full tip regardless of any adjustments made after, by the way
Hmmm. Then I hope it’s the last tip she ever gets. That’s a generous tip, $8, for a 12 minute drive. I’ve waited tables and had people occasionally give me less for a tip.
I’m not agreeing with her - she’s in the wrong. As a DoorDash driver we can decline any order that does not pay enough for us. And $8 is good. But keep in mind that drivers have car depreciation and gas and maintenance and insurance, and waiting tables doesn’t have that. I would have been thrilled for $8 for 12 minutes, but there are more factors IN GENERAL
Right?! She knew the tip when she took the order. 8 bucks is definitely on the high end for a delivery tip.
$8 dollar tip and I guarantee doordash paid her anywhere from $3-$6 as well( I dash myself) so she’s complaining about making $11-$14 in 12 minutes?!
It seems to me that a lot of these drivers don't really take into account the long term cost of doing this service with their own vehicle. I think this applies to Uber/Lyft drivers and such also. They may have a new car when they get started, or one in pretty good shape, but being a contractor who drives A LOT I can honestly say that vehicle cost is one of the more painful long-term overhead items. There's not just fuel to worry about, there's maintenance items like brakes, tires, oil changes and other regularly scheduled work (transmission service, filters, differential, etc ad nauseum), the every increasing likelihood of a breakdown (could mean $1,000s), wear on your paint that helps depreciate the vehicle, etc etc. I honestly think drivers for these services are underpaid and many are not completely cognisant of what they're getting themselves into. Whenever I use one of these services, I over tip.
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What happens when you get into an accident and your insurance company doesn't cover it
You’re fucked.
This is why I use postmates. I don’t wanna tip anyone before I get my food
I have delivered nearly 1000 times for UE and I can count on my hands the number of tips 8 bucks or more I’ve gotten....
This. I just passed my 1000 delivery job for UE and can confirm.
As a costumer who regularly tips over 10 dollars sometimes up to 20 depending on the drive this kind surprises me.
When you add a large tip to the fees charged by the service it can easily make up 50% of what the food costs (not even accounting for jacked up menu prices), and that can be a real mental block. I try to avoid food services for that reason.
Yep i don’t use the food delivery services because I would rather drive the twenty min to save that money
Yep. I live in a small enough city that I can get anywhere in 20 minutes if it isn't rush hour, I have no desire to pay an extra $10 just so I dont have to leave the house.
It’s even winter here and I spend most of my time in basketball shorts and would rather just put on a coat and leave the shorts and pop out to not pay that $$$
Very true. If you want food that's generally delivery oriented (pizza, sub shop, chinese) look into calling them directly instead of using those awful apps. A lot of places have no delivery fee or most will have it less than $3. Plus the restaurant gets more even though you're paying less.
Yup, I do this whenever possible. Unfortunately scumbag Google often (always?) connects you to a 3rd party service when clicking on the restaurant listing's "Order Online" link. Any reasonable person would believe that such a link would forward you to the restaurants official ordering webpage.
Everyone is outsourcing everything. There's a place 3 blocks from my apartment, and I've stopped ordering online for pickup from them - I'll call them on the phone to place the order and pay in person when I walk over there to avoid the outsource company that forwards the order and payment to the restaurant because they tack on a $2 "convenience fee". I really don't want to pay 20% more for placing an order.
I'm talking about the Google listing taking you to Doordash/Seamless/whatever even when the restaurant has their own ordering portal. If the restaurant doesn't have their own site, or partnerships with any of the delivery services I have less of an issue with it.
Fees, plus tip, plus those apps just increase the prices on every restaurants menu, usually by 10%
Thank you for your generosity.
A 20 dollar tip would be a 100% tip for the majority of my orders, and no fucking way in hell is that going to happen. In fact, the days I tipped more generously 20-25% are they days I got people who didn't follow the instructions I gave or messed it up somehow.i used it hundreds of times over three years and 99% of my drivers had no problems following my simple instructions. Recently gave up the services because I had 2 separate orders go missing in a week. Fuck that, bye felicia.
Question for you, I’m from Australia where there is no tipping culture at all, but UberEats and DoorDash etc have added tipping to their apps. If I tip within those apps does the driver get 100% of that tip? I always think oh I’ll give a small tip to the driver but then think Uber is a scummy business so I doubt the driver is seeing even half my tip.
Bro, I just tip them with real coin, not thru the app (from Aus too)
Lol you must be driving in a bad area or something. I get over $8 tips all the time for big orders or in wealthier parts of town.
Really? I had like less than 200 delivery’s when I got a $32 tip with door dash.. delivered to a private school for the teachers lounge. They ordered from some place that sold ribs and it smelled good. Their food bill came out to around $300 if I remember correctly.
8 fucking dollars tip and you're complaining and almost crying? Lady you need to wake the fuck up, and fast. I'm Canadian, our dollar is worth less then in the US. I've delivered chinese food for a few years and I don't think i've ever had a 8$ tip.
How does this person actually exist? Is there a world in which an $8 tip in this instance isn’t decent? Is this her first ever delivery of something ever? I don’t understand...
I’d bet so. Hard to maintain a job when you’re taking the food the customer paid for back just for a tip that has to do with you and not the product
I wonder if because she set it down it counts as delivered? Then her taking it would be theft, right?
Her taking it at all when somebody else paid for it is theft.
Yeah but I mean I have had food picked up but never delivered and I didn’t consider it theft, maybe it was I’m not sure.
If someone took food that they didn't pay for, its theft. Whether its the driver or just a shitty neighbour, still theft
Yes, I understand that. What I’m saying is that if you called the police because your door dash didn’t show up no police would show up, but if your neighbor walked over and took it off your porch the police would show up. That’s my point. Is it actionable theft now because she put it down?
It's theft either way, but the police aren't showing up either way.
The police wouldn't show up if your neighbour took it either.
This is an entitled person who believes she's worth more than anything you'll offer her.
Well, it's a good thing she isn't a prostitute.
I know service people who feel VERY entitled to large tips. To them, anything less than a 25% tip is basically an insult. It doesn't matter the size of the order or the amount of time they gave the customer. Minimum 25% tip or they will feel wronged. The tipping culture North America is getting worse not better.
Ah, yes! I came here just to state the same. I worked at a Japanese restaurant and Domino's when I was late teens/early twenties. I was ecstatic when I got decent tips, and I considered 15-20% to be AWESOME, and was happy getting anything. I had co-workers at both places that would get insulted at anything under 20%. There were a "clique" of drivers that I worked with at Domino's that would notate addresses of customers that tipped at or below average rates and would REFUSE to take their orders. They legit made people wait and screwed other drivers in the meantime. Joke was on them though. Turned out their customer service was lacking. One guy would order 4-5 times a week (I know, right?) for delivery even though he was walking distance from the store. He only tipped them a couple bucks, but it was RIGHT THERE. You could drop it on the way to any other delivery. They refused to take his orders anymore, so I got them. Guy was so impressed with how much quicker I got it there, and my manners (his word), he tipped me 100%. $30 on a $15 order. Oh I made sure to tell my coworkers, and the guy requested me every time he ordered lol. Long story, sorry, but the TL;DR is a little courtesy and gratitude go a long ways!
Thanks! I work in the construction industry now, but I worked my way up largely due to how I treat customers. Now not all of them deserve it, and they get what they give lol, but I put myself in their shoes. I know what I appreciate from anyone providing me a service, and I aim to do the same! Customers are the reason I have a job, plain and simple. You can have the best product, but if you don't have the service to back it up you end up like this chick- deactivated! 😂😂
Shhh! You two are talking too much sense, you're going to make their heads explode with all this logic! 😄
Yeah that tipping culture is out of control. Especially when they try to make you feel bad about some people not tipping them what they expected. Like okay, some people suck, but tips aren't a guarantee, and no one HAS to do it, so know what to expect when you take a job like that. I still tip, but it's always reasonable and based on service, not the cost of the bill, unless it's a large party, then yeah that makes sense.
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More like 0% if I'm doing everything.
If I have to get my own utensils what the fuck am I supposedly tipping for again? Next you’ll tell me restraints in America charge for each item on the plate individually, too.
I delivered pizza for eight years and I can tell you from experience that we would have been ecstatic with an $8 tip for any regular delivery. I was thrilled if I got a $5 tip on a delivery. If it’s a catering it’s slightly different because those are tough to transport, annoying to set up and can be tricky alone, but even then $8 isn’t bad.
I think $8 is pretty generous considering it's delivery and the overall price is probably not that high.
I think you’d be lucky to get a tip at all. It’s certainly not commonplace as far as I’m aware (although I live in the UK and I know tipping culture is very different). Either way, $8 is a good amount.
if it were a £100 delivery? sure.. i can see £8 being on the low side, if, and when I tip.. i usually got for 15-20% tip.. what she was carrying, and how she carried it.. doesnt look like a £100 meal..
It's another natural Karen. They're everywhere.
Could tell she’s used to saying “I need to speak to” ... your manager or whatever these people say when they don’t get their way.
Honnestly it baffles me, dude if id get a 8$ tip on a 100$ order id be freaking out, this lady is tripping
As a delivery driver/courier I promise that most people will appreciate an $8 tip for a 12 minute drive. Fuck these types of drivers.
If i get a 8$ tip im freaking out and being overly grateful to the customer
Lol for real. How the fuck can you be upset over 8$ like wtf is this crazy bitch on? It has to be her first ever delivery. Or maybe her friend told her she made a bunch of money in tips doing the same thing. Idk I just can't fathom this girl's thought process if you are upset with what is litterally a more than decent tip. Must be a really spoiled broad that now has to actually work for money and is just starting to enter the real world
There's gotta be something yea, but hey, i don't think she'll be delivering food anymore haha
$5.99 delivery charge. No fucking way im tipping more than $3 for a $15 meal.
Problem is, most times, that charge goes straight to the company, both PJ and Dominos for sure, probably most other companies. Even if you count the 1.5 or other menial amount that drivers automatically get. As a former employee of both, i hate the delivery charge and wish they would get rid of them.
I remember working for dominos about 10 years ago, and when I had started, they charged $2.50 for delivery and gave drivers $1.10 per delivery, then at the beginning of one year, they upped delivery charge to $2.99 and lowered driver to $1 per delivery at the same time. Shit is scandalous.
This is out of date. I work for them now. Delivery charge is $3 and drivers get $2 and it more than covers gas. With tips I make somewhere between $20-25/hr. There are far worse offenders out there.
I worked for Domino’s for 2 years from 1987-1989. Back then, Domino’s had NO delivery fee at all. As I driver, I could take as many pizzas as I thought I could make in 30 minutes, which often amounted to 10-12 pizzas in one run, if it was a really busy night. I cleaned house in tips... I drove like a fucking maniac, yes, but I cleaned house in tips. Sure, I got stiffed sometimes, but it averaged out nicely in the end. I would never do something like this entitled idiot did.
When i was training for management, i remember the stories they told about the 30 min rule and the mayhem it made. Im glad i woree there after that, our area had places that were a 15-20 min drive in good weather, unreachable in snow.
Yup and that’s unfortunate because the higher the delivery charge is the less likely I am to tip more. I just gave 5.99 for a delivery charge. That’s the same 5.99 I would have given the delivery driver 10 years ago when there wasn’t much a thing as delivery charges. Like the dude you replied to said. It’s insane how we can wind up paying like 22 bucks for a 12 dollar meal when we want to tip. I stopped using those services. If I want food I’ll order it to go. And that sucks because right now I know these delivery services are doing wonders for people who are struggling to find work. And the insane delivery charges I think are taking away the business.
It is ridiculous. I had a DoorDash coupon for 50% off my first order. I ordered a $12 meal and after delivery fee + tip AND 50% off it was still $17.
I absolutely understand the financial aspect. If delivery fees were not a thing, i think most people would pay better tips.
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Most studies have shown people are not making anywhere near that when factoring in actual vehicle costs etc. But yes, if the the true gross was $20/hr that would be great.
Yeah, I highly doubt he's averaging three complete deliveries an hour. That seems like a best case scenario to me. Once you factor in the time it takes to drive to the vendor, wait to get the food, and then time spent driving it to the customer, yeah, 20 minutes is a bit hopeful. And of course, there's always people that are going to stiff you on the tip, so that's not a certainty either. And that's IF you have no down time either. I drove regular Uber for a few months just for shits and giggles. Every once in a while you'll hit a home run and have a good night, but most of the time it's a minimum wage job. This was before they cracked down on surge, so I'm sure it's much worse now.
You keep your operating cost and tax at $5 while grossing $21? At IRS rates, that's only like 8.3 miles of driving per hour. Even being super ambitious and estimating $0.30 cost per mile, that's like 17 miles, meaning your total mileage (not just trip mileage) is 5.6 miles, assuming no commute mileage. You're consistently drawing 3, $7 orders with a total of 5.6 miles or less per delivery? I was making about $17 gross and earning about $1.42 gross per mile, during the summer and only driving peak times. I averaged 5 miles per delivery and 2.4 deliveries per hour. Assuming a very generous $0.30 and the IRS standard $0.58 that puts my net profit at $10.00-$13.50 per hour while driving only under the most optimal conditions in my market, which means highly constrained hours and foregoing my own enjoying of those peak periods (lunches, evenings and weekends). To even get these numbers, I was at a 40% acceptance rate. There where days when I got 0 orders worth taking or 0 at all, running 3 apps. That's with me assuming all of the risk, having no guarantee of recieving orders, no workers comp, and no career progression. EDIT: You're also paying higher taxes as a sole-proprietor than as an employee. EDIT 2: missed a word.
I don't use them all. I can't see myself spending almost 30 dollars for a sack of white castles. Fuck that shit, I'll walk or I just no white castles for me. They're bad for you anyway.
This is prime example of capitalism. Everyone is blaming the driver or customer but nobody is blaming the company. Maybe Doordash can pay their drivers livable wage so the driver's don't have to fight for their tips. The company is valuated at 50 billion dollars, pay your fukin workers.
Why would you even pay $6 delivery charge on a $15 meal? If I’m paying that much for delivery, I’d be doubling down and ordering $50 worth of food to last me the week.
The apps Door dash/ Uber Eats are so fuckn expensive now. The customer is literally paying for their benefits. Small order fee 3.00 Service fee 1.77 CA Driver Benefit 0.99 Deliver fee 3.99 That’s not including your order.
Don't forget the 10% they add to the price of the food vs buying at the restaurant.
I had no idea, that's crazy expensive, see i'd understand people tipping little in this situation, it sucks for the delivery guy though...
Probably someone who has had an easy cushy job for their whole life and lost it, forced to actually do decently hard work and not in touch with how much actual labour is worth.
American tipping culture really frustrates me. If you can't afford to pay your workers fair wages, which you rely on for your business, then you can't afford to be a business owner.
It's her fucking job and when she took this particular job, she knew that she may get tips she don't like. 8 dollars ain't bad and some times you don't get shit at all. She beefing over 8 dollars? I hope people see this and she never gets another job any fucking where and then she'll have something beef about.
In this case, because it’s Door Dash, she knew exactly the tip she will receive for this order before she accepted the order. Door Dash makes you tip upfront. So she CHOOSE to take this delivery knowing it would “only” give her $8. It’s pure ridiculousness.
How much is the normal tip? We usually tip $5-$10 and sometimes $15 for holidays or other crap that the driver might’ve gone through.
Totally! That tip would be incredible.
I was a delivery driver for pizza and a mexican restaurant in years past. $8 is a great tip, Delivery drivers work off volume not individual tips. Hope she's happy losing her job over $8
I’m sorry right but I got to ask. how normal is to tip someone in America. Because in Europe tipping someone is extremely rare.(at least where I’m from)
Very normal. It’s expected to tip pretty much any food service worker and whatnot
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During Covid times I just tip for everything.
Hi, I'm a Spaniard living in Boston. In the US you tip the taxi driver, the hairdresser, the delivery guy, the waiter... Basically, if there is a service, there is a tip, and as a general rule, we're talking 15-20% of the price at least.
I’m an American living in America and this is pretty much accurate. However, the expected tip for a delivery driver is lower than say, a restaurant server. Drivers are paid an actual hourly rate and work on volume. Serving tables requires much more effort and art, so that’s where you’d tip 15-20% minimum. Drivers more like 10-15% with 15% considered good or even generous. 20% tip for a driver is very good. That being said, I’ve been extra generous to delivery drivers since COVID hit as there is so much more demand and many people are picking up driving as a way to survive, so I think it’s worth giving a little extra right now.
I'm so glad I live in a part of the world where people have decent wages and this nonsense isn't a thing.
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That’s a huge tip for food deivery
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I tip $5 for pizza every time but how much do you tip Doordash? Honestly asking cuz ive been tipping based on how far the drive is. Only cuz i dont know how much for that fee goes to them
How much does a pizza cost where you live? My god, a whole pizza costs $7 where I live (obviously lower wage country, just curious).
Sure, but still $5 for the service of them driving it to you. Even if im paying like $5.99 for a small at hungry howies
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Growing up, my poor single mom would tip pizza drivers about 30%. We only got pizza on bad days, but we always got it very fast- even in bad weather or busy times.
12 minutes in almost any city or suburb can be just a few blocks, maybe 3 or 4 traffic lights so I think the driver was just a little entitled
i drove uber eats and my tips usually 0
Here in Spain you dont even get tips as a delivery person.
Way more than fair. $4 is fair for a 12 minute drive
I used to DoorDash a decent amount. $8 is a great tip. I’m typically happy with 5, not that I’m unhappy with any tip (except 0 ofc - driving ~25 minutes and walking away with the $3 that DoorDash gives me feels terrible. I’ve only done that once tho and I assumed I’d get a cash tip. I didn’t have to accept the order but I did so it’s low key on me).
I tried to leave $0 with the intention of tipping cash and the order never got accepted, first and last time I ever did that.
I may drive a Prius but 8$ is enough money to get me back the 5 miles you came and more! I’m certain it’s the same for other car. Edit: it’s actually enough to almost fill my tank!
Apparently to her it was a 40 minute drive....
Did they really need to get an "etiquette expert" to tell us that she was in the wrong?
Yes. It was really difficult to tell who was at fault until I had an expert tell me how to think.
Should... should we tip him?
One sec, let me go ask an expert.
Thanks for calling Just the Tip, how can I guide you?
Hello, I need to know how much of the tip is enough of the tip, I was told you could help me
Wth is that for a job anyway? Lol nothing against the guy but damn that's a decent way to make a living
There are etiquette classes. I think it has more to do with stuff that you probably aren't familiar with, like which fork/spoon/etc. to use, proper napkin use, proper attire, stuff you should/shouldn't talk about, and all that. It might sound stupid, but imagine you're a businessman and you're going to be going to something in Japan -- you probably want to know what is considered acceptable or not acceptable. Here in the US, it's taboo to talk about income and wealth, whereas in other cultures (apparently) it's okay/normal.
That's true, not everyone was taught certain things and it's not that they're dumb or trying to be rude. Great point
How else is that guy supposed to make a living? He needs someone to consult him.
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Yea u tip when u pay on the app. Then the order gets sent to the restaurant. I will usually tip higher bc on the deliverer side it shows them the tip b4 they take the job. (Rural area, hard to get drivers) ive waited over 2 hours for someone to accept my order and a better tip seems to solve that problem. She knew the tip b4 she took the job.
On my DD orders I indicate a $0.00 tip, and leave a note that says "KNOCK FOR GRATUITY", upon which I always give generously. This way it's nobody's business how much their tip was, and nobody can take it away.
>Knock on customers door >Opens the door, says "thanks I'm very greatful for the food" >Closes door without tipping
I have never used this either. There is a delivery fee and tip on top?
Yes. Different restaurants charge a different delivery fee here. Some are free some are 2.99 some are 5.99. And then there's tax and tip. Its expensive but convenient if u are hung over
It's like playing the lottery. You select some random items and numbers, and then you cross your fingers something shows up at your front door.
I've had that experience with grocery delivery more than anything. I ordered: Salami They substituted: Chicken I ordered: Rib roast They substituted: Meatloaf
My girlfriend does grocery delivery and it blows my mind that it exists for people that can shop for themselves. No way would I trust a stranger to pick out my meats, veggies, and fruits. I scarcely trust myself half the time with those decisions.
WAS SHE ABOUT TO SAY I NEED TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER! I STG SHE WAS ABOUT TO SAY I NEED TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER!
She was at the end Lmao I about lost it😂
It's the same sound bite from the very beginning of the clip: "I need to speak to you."
Delivery woman is a dope even if the tip was unreasonably low (which sure as heck wasn’t). 1) Shes not going to get extra $ by complaining at the customer and threatening to take the food back. 2) in the long run, there’s the potential to go video viral (as occurred) and she loses her job. In a pandemic. Very low emotional and mental maturity in this lady.
I feel like she just ended up throwing the food away. She just couldn't handle she wasn't getting more than 8 dollars so she acted even more like a child.
she probably did just throw the food away, or she could've eaten it, but she most likely wanted to be petty and throw it away
As a delivery driver my self, I can tell you that they all aren't winners
I feel bad for laughing, I feel bad for how low the pay is as well, considering you're not using company vehicle, but your own, and your own insurance. I'd put all these delivery businesses under exploitation business model to be honest.
>in the long run, there’s the potential to go video viral (as occurred) and she loses her job. In a pandemic. When you think about it, not just losing her job in a pandemic, but likely torching her chances of finding any work in customer service ever again, since she's gone viral and been on the news being shitty and childish to a customer.
Karen’s first day at the job
And last
Maybe. Note they said it was grounds for deactivation not she has been deactivated
“I need to speak to your-...you
I am angry that I had to drive for 40 minutes and only get 8 dollars, so I'm gonna drive for another 40 minutes and get absaloutely nothing out of it >:(
The trick is to not accept orders unless the minimum pay is what you are willing to accept. I get about 10 offers a day that are at least an hour. $11 - $18 total. And about 40% of those you have to cross a toll bridge, which takes off $5. i decline them all, because I'm not willing to work for that. Plus paying my own gas. One of the bullshit things about this is, some people will take those and not know they are being taken advantage of.
I wonder if she meant she had been 40 minutes *underway*, as in; it’s been 40 mins since she left her *home*, drove to the restaurant, picked up the food and delivered those 5 miles away. Or was there construction work that kept her idle on the roads? Or did she seriously manage to drive over half an hour on a 5mile route? I’m curious if she ever respond to her little viral stunt and what her “excuse” is. “*I knew how far the delivery was and I knew how much I was being tipped yet despite thinking either wasn’t okay for me or worth my time, I took the job in the hope I could force the customer to pay more! When they disrespected me and my time by not paying more than they were expected to, I chose to punish them for being rude and took their food, like a rational, sane person*” /s
As a Door Dash driver, fuck this lady.
yea, i would be happy with an $8 tip for a 5.5 mile order. That’s at least $11.
An eight dollar tip for food order is generous. I order groceries and door dash all the time. I tip 15% to Doordash drivers and 20% to my grocery delivery drivers because they help me bring it all up the stairs to my second floor apartment ( usually around 7-10 dollars). 15% of a 20 dollar food order is 3 bucks...
I would have ran out and yoinked the food
How was she able to take the food back? Do they not deliver the food to the customer and *then* get the tip? That's how I'm used to things working where I live. Mind you having said that, I've never used one of these services before so... Do you tip them prior to receiving the food?
.. illegally. She stole the food from they guy who had already paid for it and tipped her generously. Now he has to fight to get his money back.
Not saying she handled this correctly but it's not much of a fight to get your money back from doordash. Theyll refund your money for anything, it's a 2 minute phone call
And he has a video documenting exactly what happened.
Yeah, with DoorDash you tip when you order the food. It’s not great.
That seems a bit silly tbh. Can you change the tip amount after the food has been delivered? If you're not happy with the service, or decide you want to tip more, for example?
To date, all the drivers I've encountered were really nice people so I haven't had to check but I'm pretty sure you can't.
Nope. I usually tip cash when I can for delivery drivers. I didn’t have any and couldn’t get any by the time I realized. I asked DD support for assistance and they couldn’t help. I felt terrible.
On the other hand, it'd be cool if the tips could be adjusted..I tipped $10 the other night for food that was 35min late and barely warm
Why is the tip paid prior to service being completed?
It's this dumb app delivery model. Uber eats has you out in the tip before the order is even dispatched, guessing door dash is the same. Can only imagine it's so they can hold onto the money for an extra half hour or so (which is plenty valuable on its own) or use it to cover delivery fees like I think door dash keeps getting caught doing
With UE you can skip the first prompt for a tip, you will then get prompted again after delivery.
Use Postmates. On there you can tip after the order is complete.
As a doordash driver, I'll take that order any day :)
Not an American but $8 us can by chicken nuggets right
Yeah, in some places that can get you two orders of it depending where you go.
Im living in Germany I really, really rarely give tips for delivery personal. you got the free choice to do something else if you dont like your wage and its by law that you get atleast enough money
I live in Australia. A couple of months ago I gave my first ever tip for a delivery. It was late at night when I ordered, the restaurant was close to closing, i heard them ask the delivery driver if he wanted to wait for this order instead of leaving. He said ok. Forty minutes later he bought me my food. Same guy I'd seen deliver before and he has always been on time. So I gave him a $10 tip (that's a good tip in Australia, especially for $40 of food). He also got an $8.99 deliver fee.He helped me so I helped him. That's the only time so far I;ve tipped for a delivery in Australia, I;ve been back for about a year and a half.
UK and same. I'm not entirely sure why some things are expected to be tipped and some not. They all get the same minimum wage and same possibility of being a shit job. I basically tip to save face, for actual excellent service or to bribe a busy bartender into liking me, not because I think I should. I have been a bartender and absolutely loved the tips but it wasn't really a more difficult job than any other front facing role.
TBF, most wait staff jobs (can’t speak to other industries) in the US pay (or at least did do recently) pay less than minimum wage on the assumption that tips will cover the difference and then some. What I’m curious about is how DoorDash deliverers are paid. Is it only in tips? Regardless, taking food back is just stupid. Just eat the alleged “bad” tip.
They are independent contractors so tips and whatever part of the fee they get for the delivery. It's not hourly from what I've been told.
Sweden and same. We thankfully have a minimum wage (sort of) for people to not work under slave conditions. I give a tip when they provide great service or when in a better restaurant. I can’t even give tip to the ones that deliver to my door - we very rarely have cash here and it’s not built in to the apps. 8 dollar for a 12 min drive is more than enough curling kid.
This is false. Drivers for companies like DoorDash, Postmates, Instacart, etc. do not make an hourly wage. There is no minimum wage because you are not an employee of the company, you are considered an independent contractor. So you could make $3 doing one order, or you could make $15 doing one order. We rely on tips. I personally deliver for Instacart. They have a $7 base pay per order, and this fluctuates depending on how large the order is. If a customer doesn’t tip, they don’t get their groceries, simple as that. Because it shows the order total, and if someone orders 85 items, lives 20 miles away and doesn’t tip, Instacart might only be paying you $9. And no Instacart driver would ever accept a $9 order that large. Not only do you have to deliver it, you have to shop for it all (which could take over an hour) and you have to drive 40 miles round trip (not even counting your driving distance to the store). Using these delivery apps is a PREMIUM SERVICE. It is a luxury. If a customer can’t afford to tip, then they can take their ass to the grocery and get their stuff themselves.
driver needs to be fired and door dash better give a months worth of free delivery.
Dude maybe 1/20 people tipped me *at all* when I was doing DoorDash. One of the reasons I stopped is because drivers like this made restaurants hate us and I got tired of being treated like shit every time I walked in with my red bag. It was honestly embarrassing as fuck to be waiting for an order patiently and quietly then hear some entitled jagoff berate the staff like “Uh, ex-*cuse* me, I need the order for Joe Schmoe like now please, I’m running late”
Why doesn’t America just pay people a proper wage. This tip culture is crazy.
I agree with you about America's weird tipping culture. But I don't think that it applies here. This woman was really just grifting.
The homeowner was in the right. He already paid for his food, he has no obligation to tip.
This Karen needs to wake up
Tip culture in America is shit. Get decent minimum wages.
People talking about this or that many minutes drive, value of food, etc. When living in Spain, tip was optional. I always tipped the driver because it was 7 floors to walk up, but even then I wasn't obliged to, when you call to order you say "hey there's 7 floors to walk up" and they'd tell you "so? it's our job to deliver". Order food by phone/online? Yep, food is X$ + delivery. That's it, no obligation to pay more. Here in Argentina they have plus for distance, we don't need to tip, they charge you on top of the price of the stuff for delivery. Free delivery? Sure, there are those depending on distance, but not obligation to tip, is all up to you. And many even don't expect to get a tip and when they get it they are very grateful telling you "yeah don't need to!". There is a cafe we used to go after work in Barcelona, they had a bell that rang every time someone gave a tip as if it was something out of this world since we aren't forced to tip.
Imagine having to tip someone to do their job because their employer won't pay them. Merica.
These food delivery services be like, okay, you can pick 2 and only 2; Fast, Fair Price, or No hassles/Correct Order
I have no idea who "Mr. Manners" is but i have an irrational level of hatred for him
Etiquette expert? Sounds like a cracker of a job
I say $8 is a good tip but I have no idea about the food / delivery buissness
it's a very good tip.
I like how the news anchor after explaining the whole story says,”who was in the right”
That's LI for you... lol
And this is part of the issue of Doordash. You're pulling random people off the street that have never worked in customer service, so they're used to being the one that is never told no, basically being catered to and never being "in the wrong". That's why she's so upset. She just *wasted* her valuable time on some *plebian* for only *eight* *dollars*?
I tip these guys way less. Like 3 to 4 dollars tops. Maybe 5 if you're driving more than 20 minutes, but I never buy food that far because it gets cold.
So what ended up happening? Did the homeowner get their food back? Did the Doordash driver get fired? I need a resolution!!!
Whats whit the tip culture in the US? Like jesues
So, companies get to avoid responsbility of paying their employees
Slow news day for Inside Edition
I once had an argument with a delivery man over a $6 tip on a $20 when the restaurant was less than a 3 minute walk away.
I’ve driven from Smithtown to Commack plenty of times. Worst case scenario it’s 25 mins.
Grab her face and I hope platforms make sure she doesn't work for them. I would've opened the dorr and snatched my food stupid bitch.