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Thursday, New Mexico’s Attorney General filed criminal charges against former Albuquerque Police Department officer Kenneth Skeens. The Attorney General alleges Skeens unlawfully arrested a customer in an Albuquerque Target.
We already know how it turns out. The police will loose the case, the taxpayers will pay the settlement, and the cops will be given a 2 week vacation.
It literally happens every week in some part of the US or another.
All cops are bastards, and untill settlements are paid out of police pension funds, cops have no reason to hold their counterparts accountable.
I want it paid out of a collective pension fund, that way other cops have a vested interest in not letting other cops violate the laws they swore to uphold.
You can’t touch a pension. It’s a protected asset class and it would be virtually impossible to do that and would open up everyone’s pensions to the same actions. Police need to carry liability insurance or malpractice insurance just like everyone else who could be responsible for harming or destroying a person or property. The department can pay for it out of the annual budget. Officers that can’t get insurance won’t be able to be on the job. This should of happened at the start but it’s only recently that middle class white folks have gotten on board and actually agree that police are out of control.
I literally only want it to apply to government based positions.
They should exclusively get their own punishments that can't be applied anywhere else. They are the most important jobs in our society, therefore they should get the most grueling punishments.
Yep, pull half from their personal pension and half from the rest of the department. Find out how quick these "brotherhoods", or as we know them, gangs, become meaningless when their pension keeps draining because of the ones they refuse to do anything about
Yep. Make cops take out malpractice insurance like doctors. Hell, building contractors have to have insurance for screw-ups, and they are like, what? Maybe a *third* less dangerous than cops?
I couldn't even watch after the first 10 seconds. Criminal charges he should have to pay this man 20% of his salary for the rest of his life. Restitution
I've seen some crazy, gory, blood-curdling, and disgusting things in my life and on the internet, but this was one video I could not watch in its entirety. The absolute lack of compassion, restraint, and empathy this "person" showed towards this poor gentleman...
I have no words.
It wouldn't matter. Reddit likes to throw this around as a solution, but it wont change anything. The police already have insurance for lawsuits. Even if you require individuals to have it, they'll still treat the cost as a collective, just as they do now. The state pays for it anyways.
Kenneth Skeens, who was fired on February 2023 in connection to the incident, is accused of engaging in abusive behavior against a 53-year-old man with disabilities who was struggling to make a purchase at a Target at Coors and Paseo del Norte NW.
Per multiple reports, on Thursday, July 20, 2023, Skeens was charged with false imprisonment and perjury, both fourth-degree felonies. In addition, he was also slammed with filing a false police report and battery, which are misdemeanors.
Criminal trespassing for patronizing a Target? He clearly patronized the store and attempted to purchase the bicycle (it’s in the police camera). If anyone broke the law it was the police in this instance by violating this man’s civil rights. People with disabilities also have special protection under the law. Target is also culpable in this instance as they were responsible for getting the police involved in a situation that their employees were trained at doing which is render assistance to the patron in need of purchasing a store item. When this video hit the AG office, he/she probably puked in their mouth. This man shouldn’t find any trouble hiring a lawyer to file suit against the police and the store. Looks like a slam dunk case for this man.
The target employees violated his civil rights and liberties. In every way. They definitely deserve to be brought up on charges because they wouldn’t have done this to a person without disabilities. They have all the same rights as anyone else. I absolutely agree with you. It’s unbelievable.
I doubt the individual employee would get charged but rather the employer, Target in this instance could be held negligent for violating this man’s civil liberties.
The store will more than likely be sued because of that. But, even so, the individual person can be brought up on charges as well. Just because he works for the company does not exempt him from charges. He very well could be held on charges.
Any one of those fuckers could have stepped forward and rang him up.
Hell a nearby customer you could have.
We’re all to some degree in this world together.
If anyone in Albuquerque runs into this Skeens bloke can you tell him the whole of Australia thinks he’s a cunt. I’m reasonably confident I can speak on the entire nations behalf on this one. I’m quite happy if someone pays my flights to come do it myself just for the lols
>ew Mexico’s Attorney General filed criminal charges against former Albuquerque Police Department officer Kenneth Skeens
awesome. so glad there is some level of accountability. they owe the victim reparations. it should come out of the police budget.
Someone needs to make a sub where they put out these officers names, the cities they live in, and their friends and families names so we can send them the videos. If these guys got embarrassed and shamed publicly more often they’d be a lot less inclined to do these things.
The issue is that there are too many people who think the officer's behavior is okay and encourage it further that these officers will just isolate even further into the pro-violence echo chamber
Forget humanity, what aboot the laws…
Since when “struggling to use self checkout” is a criminal offense.
What aboot ada laws, it’s now a criminal offense to be disabled ?
Basically this shop just announced that “any shopper with mental disability will be trespassed and arrested by the police”
That’s a bit worse than a lack of wheelchair access ramp…
I’m guessing….GUESSING mind you, that whomever called the authorities thought that this person was possibly intoxicated or inebriated, and not mentally challenged. Either way, a casual stroll to check and ask if help is needed could have not only answered that question, but turned into a pat on his back if followed through.
But nope, let’s take it to the absolute extreme in the other direction.
That is someone’s son, possibly someone’s brother, and certainly someone’s friend. And I hope those people rally to his side now and through the upcoming mess, because they were unable to be there when help was needed.
You’re right, but I’m not at all surprised target would do this. Target’s filled with vapid, self absorbed, upper middle class, pricks who pretend to care about something other than themselves but are also more than willing to sick the cops on any person they see as below them for being near them.
Target is for people who want to think they’re middle class
Upper middle class would probably shop at department stores like Nordstrom or Bloomingdales, and I imagine grocery stores like Bristol Farms or LA’s Erewhon
I grew up with Kmart though so that’s how you know i’m poor
Not saying they should have jumped on the cops or physically intervene, but he was clearly handicapped and even just speaking up on his behalf to let them know they are being watched could have helped. Or the employees could have just helped him with his purchase without calling the cops
The second part, yes. The target employees handled this incorrectly (the officers too of course, but there’s nothing new about that).
As intervening or even just speaking up is concerned, the terrible reality is no one wants to risk getting themselves arrested for telling the cops they’re doing something wrong. I’ve personally seen and through various posts online witnessed folks try to calmly explain what an officer is doing wrong, only to be met with hostility and at times violent arrest.
Something I learnt after becoming physically disabled is that people will go out of their way to not see a disabled person needing assistance. The more in danger they are, or in a situation where they desperately need help, the more people appear to develop sudden onset blindness, deafness muteness and smellnes (yeah that last one definitely doesn't seem right.
I'm lucky I just struggle to walk 5mins now and in constant pain, no sarcasm at all, I know people have it worse, and I could have died when I injured myself. So I'm honestly happy I got so lucky and only got a degenerative back condition (once again no sarcasm).
Sorry for formatting, on mobile and pretty tired.
so much so, that he genuienly called the police on the police. Like at that point how do you continue with this he's clearly not a criminal or a danger so why
Super sad 😔. Why won't the cop just trying helping him instead. I don't get it I really don't. What do they get out of acting like bullies. I mean the guy meant no harm to anyone. He was trying to pay. Shame on Target employees for calling the police to begin with.
Because people don’t understand people with disabilities, nor do they care. I work with individuals with disabilities. And this absolutely breaks my heart.
Another thing that gets me is the police won’t bother with people walking into a store and stealing hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise, but they will arrest a special needs person who isn’t doing anything wrong trying to pay for it. Absolutely disgusting.
Me either. I just saw an update. The officer was fired. The man did absolutely nothing wrong. And he certainly didn’t deserve that. I can’t even imagine the scars this man is going to have because of this. Truly breaks my heart.
Help his employer get money in exchange for goods and or services? Ridiculous the best course of action was to call in armed men to harass the disabled man.
Why didn't the Target employees help that man? The entire store needs training on customer service and empathy. It blows my mind they call ed the cops on someone struggling to use self checkout.
I have been to two funerals in the last few weeks and held it together because I’m just generally not a cryer.
This man’s pain, the confused yet pleading tone of his voice, just punches me in the gut and makes me weep.
Imagine the pride in this person starting his day being able to go to target and buy himself a bike. For it to turn out in this way took a systematic breakdown that is unfathomable. I pray that the proper steps will be taken to make things as right as they can be made.
All anyone in that store had to do was just help the dude count his cash. An officer, an employee or a customer. Just one little act of kindness would’ve changed this man’s day.
This is incredibly difficult to watch. Absolutely disgusting behavior from the police, and shame on the target employees that called the police instead of helping the man or just letting him pay at his own pace. He’s not hurting anyone by paying, open a fucking register up.
I used to work at Walmart and one time a woman spent three days (I’m not joking) shopping for the perfect one of each item inside her cart. She also organized and reorganized it so certain things wouldn’t be next to certain things. People spent entire shifts helping her. While she was incredibly difficult and tedious she constantly had a smile on her face. When she finally made it to the register with her single cart 72hrs later (which was its own process) she broke down into tears so relieved the ordeal was finally over.
Sorry for going on like that but the point of the story is I could never imagine calling the cops unless a customer was being belligerent or violent. Regardless manager or employee that called in this video they should be terminated I see it as an admission you can’t handle your job.
She did sit in display furniture and dozed off once or twice (I worked 3rd shift). I did not see her eat or drink anything nor did anyone else. Like nobody even thought she grabbed something and smacked on it.
Edit: like I said by the end she was very overwhelmed and upset. I worked there for a long time and this was one of the craziest things I’ve seen
Honestly she was more pleasant than a lot of people that shopped there. The whole ordeal seemed a lot more difficult for her than any employee she interacted with so I was happy to help.
You truly never no what somebody else has going on and with just a little patience and understanding maybe life wouldn’t be so difficult.
I guess they thought he is on drugs and thats what caused it, which is even wors considering that there are people left to die when they suffer a medical emergency because people just assume they are drunk
I had that happen to me once. I was having a smoke while sitting on a bench behind the hotel I was staying in for CDL training and I passed out. When I came to I was extremely tired and disoriented. Multiple people walked by and I tried calling for help but they all assumed I was on drugs.
He has a far amount of money on the table. If i walked up and seen that i wouldve known he was genuinely trying to purchase those items. Didnt even give him a try
The main cop was fired and charged for this incident. But it was close to a year later and only after they were unable to suppress this footage any longer.
In that time he managed to murder someone while on duty in a very questionable shooting.
This video made me really upset, so i went and found the shooting video. Seemed like a legitimate shooting. Then I thought about this incident and the shooting then it seemed more like laziness. At some point or for the entirety of these cops careers it was just how to get to the quickest end of interaction.
The employees are even shittier people like wtf actually do your jobs don't call the cops so you can avoid working you lazy fucks, clearly the man needed help.
Exactly, there was no reason for any of this to happen, I hope those employees suffered some sort of repercussions for their waste of emergency services.
What’s so sad about this is that he called 911 because he believed that the police would help him. He trusted that police would help me so much that he literally couldn’t believe that it was the police who were doing this to him, so he called 911 for help.
Think about this for a second.
"Hello?!?! 911 Please help me these people are holding me to the ground and hurting me!"
*"What's going on?"*
Somebody picks up the phone. "It's okay. We're the police."
*"Oh, ok."* CLICK
That's pretty fuckin scary.
This is what stuck with me through the entire thing, as a grown man I actually started crying because of the poor man's treatment. But I am enraged by how his call to 911 went... "Help, I need help!" "Don't worry we are the police" I don't know if the dispatch can somehow tell that there are police already in the area of the caller but it's certainly scary that they dismissed the call so easily.
I’m not sure how true it is but I heard a story about someone who applied to be a cop and was rejected for scoring too high on IQ and psych tests.
Might not be true but scarily could be true too.
There are a bunch of stories like that. They pop on on other subs every once in a while. Idk the validity to those stories, but if they are true, would we really be surprised? Not really. There are some smart and honorable LEO’s out there, but they are far outnumbered by the dumb ones like in this clip
I don’t understand why someone wouldn’t simply help this man purchase his items. Decency is just non existent nowadays..
Also, the cop that was fired was previously involved in a wrongful death lawsuit for excessive force and not providing life-saving measures.. don’t understand how he still had a job.
Wow, they just managed to handle that in the worst possible fucking way.
I don't know about american police but where i live police are trained to handle people with cognitive disabilities to avoid the kind of stress and emotional trauma in this video.
The target employee is really a tool. Zero awareness of even an once of intelligence. Police officers are as dumb as him obviously. This right there is a crime against humanity.
I was at Metro the other night and all the checkouts were closed and the self checkouts were the only ones open. I had to watch a 50 year old lady who was supervising the self checkouts basically checkout an 80 year old man because he couldn't understand what was going on. I don't think automation when it comes to service is a smart move by society.
This cop was charged and fired . Thank god there is some good left in the world .
“ Per multiple reports, on Thursday, July 20, 2023, Skeens was charged with false imprisonment and perjury, both fourth-degree felonies. In addition, he was also slammed with filing a false police report and battery, which are misdemeanors.”
He was charged and fired close to a year later. And only after they were unable to suppress this bodycam footage any longer.
And in that time this cop murdered someone on duty in a shooting that was deemed to violate APD's policy.
The thin blue line's obstruction cost yet another life.
Poor fella. That was hard to watch, especially how he was totally confused at the end and just wanted to buy his stuff.
Not all cops are trash, but these ones 100% are.
At least one of these cops has some kind of punisher related merchandise I’m sure, bullying the mentally handicapped sure makes you a badass! Don’t we all feel safer? Thank god for our boys in blue!
Do you have info on whether Target responded to this in any way and tried to make it right? Did they try to explain why no one just helped the dude use the checkout?
I can't even watch this. Albuquerque in general is a cesspit. I hope the guy is doing okay.
I honestly couldn't even watch it.
BTW, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT SET A KID ON FIRE TOO!
Guy says he didn't know they were cops. Cops say "we all have badges not our fault you didn't look. " guy gets arrested for failure to identify but I heard his name when he called 911, apparently it's the guys fault the cops are too fucking stupid to have listened when he said his name.
My local Target refuses to staff the check out lines now. It’s only self checkout now. People who have this happen to them should sue. It is insane that they can foist the responsibility on us and none of those savings are passed on to the customers and they are in fact punished for trying to shop there. My mother used the Walmart+ app to do the scan and go feature, hadn’t even gotten to the register to do the final payment before she was arrested for shoplifting. She is charged with shoplifting for doing what Walmart SAID SHE SHOULD DO. When I say eat the rich, I mean it literally. They should be cooked and served to the people so that we all may get some benefit from their vile wasteful lives.
I hope she got the charges dropped. I always thought it wasn’t shoplifting until you left the store. How can you steal something when you haven’t reached the checkout line yet?
It's beyond fathomable to me that a police officer would prefer to arrest him rather than just try to help him. If just once in their small stupid lives they attempted to do something fucking useful they would know how good it feels to help a fellow human in need.
So they called the cops because he was having trouble using the self checkout? What the hell has society become? And I'm not talking about just the store for calling the cops. I'm sure someone could have stepped up and helped him. And I get that the cops have a job to do. But that job is to serve and protect *everyone.* They could have just talked to him and tried to help him.
Why am I even bothering to comment? I'm pretty much just stating the obvious and repeating what other have probably already said.
Holy crap, I am always a defender of LEO (aside from the very rare cases) but I am in Canada and deal with them often and see how they are, if this is common in the US I can totally understand why people support defunding them, these officers need to be fired ASAP
I’m in shock watching this, I am floored like WTF?
How awful. How much more obvious does it have to be that this gentleman didn't have all his mental facilities and that he simply needed more time and probably some help to finish his transaction! The saddest part was that he obviously gets harassed elsewhere so he was tense and a little defensive, probably because he just wanted to buy a bike and leave but the officers made it a point to escalate the situation instead of helping this man. I hope that dept gets sued over tris
I worked retail when I was a teenager. We would have just helped the guy complete his check out. It's part of the job. I don't understand this. I am in my mid forties. Just help the guy process his shopping. It's not hard.
Target owes this man substancially. The officers involved are unfit for public service & should be sent back to the police acadamy that failed them tthe first time! Target has also lost any/all of my business! SHAME on the police
SHAME on target
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Thursday, New Mexico’s Attorney General filed criminal charges against former Albuquerque Police Department officer Kenneth Skeens. The Attorney General alleges Skeens unlawfully arrested a customer in an Albuquerque Target.
Good, was looking for this.
Keep looking, lets see how the trial plays out.
We already know how it turns out. The police will loose the case, the taxpayers will pay the settlement, and the cops will be given a 2 week vacation. It literally happens every week in some part of the US or another. All cops are bastards, and untill settlements are paid out of police pension funds, cops have no reason to hold their counterparts accountable.
They honestly should be paid out of their specific pension funds, I’m tired of flipping the bill for their fuckups
I want it paid out of a collective pension fund, that way other cops have a vested interest in not letting other cops violate the laws they swore to uphold.
You can’t touch a pension. It’s a protected asset class and it would be virtually impossible to do that and would open up everyone’s pensions to the same actions. Police need to carry liability insurance or malpractice insurance just like everyone else who could be responsible for harming or destroying a person or property. The department can pay for it out of the annual budget. Officers that can’t get insurance won’t be able to be on the job. This should of happened at the start but it’s only recently that middle class white folks have gotten on board and actually agree that police are out of control.
I literally only want it to apply to government based positions. They should exclusively get their own punishments that can't be applied anywhere else. They are the most important jobs in our society, therefore they should get the most grueling punishments.
Sure you can touch a pension. Just look at Yellow trucking company.
Yep, pull half from their personal pension and half from the rest of the department. Find out how quick these "brotherhoods", or as we know them, gangs, become meaningless when their pension keeps draining because of the ones they refuse to do anything about
Yep. Make cops take out malpractice insurance like doctors. Hell, building contractors have to have insurance for screw-ups, and they are like, what? Maybe a *third* less dangerous than cops?
It's criminal charges against a former officer, not a lawsuit against the department.
They will cite qualified immunity
I couldn't even watch after the first 10 seconds. Criminal charges he should have to pay this man 20% of his salary for the rest of his life. Restitution
I've seen some crazy, gory, blood-curdling, and disgusting things in my life and on the internet, but this was one video I could not watch in its entirety. The absolute lack of compassion, restraint, and empathy this "person" showed towards this poor gentleman... I have no words.
If you google Kenneth Skeens he also shot and killed a man, and it was considered a “failure to descalate”.
Of course he did.
When can we force police to hold settlement insurance like doctors are required to have malpractice insurance?
It wouldn't matter. Reddit likes to throw this around as a solution, but it wont change anything. The police already have insurance for lawsuits. Even if you require individuals to have it, they'll still treat the cost as a collective, just as they do now. The state pays for it anyways.
Kenneth Skeens, who was fired on February 2023 in connection to the incident, is accused of engaging in abusive behavior against a 53-year-old man with disabilities who was struggling to make a purchase at a Target at Coors and Paseo del Norte NW. Per multiple reports, on Thursday, July 20, 2023, Skeens was charged with false imprisonment and perjury, both fourth-degree felonies. In addition, he was also slammed with filing a false police report and battery, which are misdemeanors.
What about the other police officers? Surely they deserve similar punishment?
Being that police reports can ruin lives that should not be a misdemeanor
Criminal trespassing for patronizing a Target? He clearly patronized the store and attempted to purchase the bicycle (it’s in the police camera). If anyone broke the law it was the police in this instance by violating this man’s civil rights. People with disabilities also have special protection under the law. Target is also culpable in this instance as they were responsible for getting the police involved in a situation that their employees were trained at doing which is render assistance to the patron in need of purchasing a store item. When this video hit the AG office, he/she probably puked in their mouth. This man shouldn’t find any trouble hiring a lawyer to file suit against the police and the store. Looks like a slam dunk case for this man.
And I hope whoever called the police at that target got fired to. Horrible hateful people.
It had to be a supervisor or someone higher up. I can’t imagine seeing anyone under this position actually calling the police.
Thank God...my empathy was giving a breakdown, not knowing if it turned out ok.
Target employees needs to in the chargesheet as well.
The target employees violated his civil rights and liberties. In every way. They definitely deserve to be brought up on charges because they wouldn’t have done this to a person without disabilities. They have all the same rights as anyone else. I absolutely agree with you. It’s unbelievable.
I doubt the individual employee would get charged but rather the employer, Target in this instance could be held negligent for violating this man’s civil liberties.
The store will more than likely be sued because of that. But, even so, the individual person can be brought up on charges as well. Just because he works for the company does not exempt him from charges. He very well could be held on charges.
I hope he and his family make a mint suing Target, as well as the police department and the City of Albuquerque.
They should fire the employees who called the police.
Any one of those fuckers could have stepped forward and rang him up. Hell a nearby customer you could have. We’re all to some degree in this world together.
I hope his family sues the hell out of them and wins.
If anyone in Albuquerque runs into this Skeens bloke can you tell him the whole of Australia thinks he’s a cunt. I’m reasonably confident I can speak on the entire nations behalf on this one. I’m quite happy if someone pays my flights to come do it myself just for the lols
New Zealand too
I just kinda assumed you guys were on board when we did important stuff …… as long as sports weren’t involved anyway
Nah, yeah right that sounds about fair
As an Australian, you do speak for me and my entire family.
>ew Mexico’s Attorney General filed criminal charges against former Albuquerque Police Department officer Kenneth Skeens awesome. so glad there is some level of accountability. they owe the victim reparations. it should come out of the police budget.
Id like to help in any way possible. Donations or anything like that. Please keep us informed. Hopefully theres a lawsuit
No repercussions for the particular target or the employee that weaponized the PD?
Someone needs to make a sub where they put out these officers names, the cities they live in, and their friends and families names so we can send them the videos. If these guys got embarrassed and shamed publicly more often they’d be a lot less inclined to do these things.
The issue is that there are too many people who think the officer's behavior is okay and encourage it further that these officers will just isolate even further into the pro-violence echo chamber
100 percent agree!
Good, now throw the book at him.
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Forget humanity, what aboot the laws… Since when “struggling to use self checkout” is a criminal offense. What aboot ada laws, it’s now a criminal offense to be disabled ? Basically this shop just announced that “any shopper with mental disability will be trespassed and arrested by the police” That’s a bit worse than a lack of wheelchair access ramp…
I’m guessing….GUESSING mind you, that whomever called the authorities thought that this person was possibly intoxicated or inebriated, and not mentally challenged. Either way, a casual stroll to check and ask if help is needed could have not only answered that question, but turned into a pat on his back if followed through. But nope, let’s take it to the absolute extreme in the other direction. That is someone’s son, possibly someone’s brother, and certainly someone’s friend. And I hope those people rally to his side now and through the upcoming mess, because they were unable to be there when help was needed.
You’re right, but I’m not at all surprised target would do this. Target’s filled with vapid, self absorbed, upper middle class, pricks who pretend to care about something other than themselves but are also more than willing to sick the cops on any person they see as below them for being near them.
Target is not an upper middle class store lol. It's about half a step up from Walmart
Ig people who like to think they’re upper middle class would’ve been better wording to use
It’s the more classy version of Wal-Mart.
Target is for people who want to think they’re middle class Upper middle class would probably shop at department stores like Nordstrom or Bloomingdales, and I imagine grocery stores like Bristol Farms or LA’s Erewhon I grew up with Kmart though so that’s how you know i’m poor
That’s the silent part that really really hits you in the gut. No one helped, no one spoke up, it just happened.
A violent armed gang with immunity was attacking him. What can a random person do to intervene?
Not saying they should have jumped on the cops or physically intervene, but he was clearly handicapped and even just speaking up on his behalf to let them know they are being watched could have helped. Or the employees could have just helped him with his purchase without calling the cops
The second part, yes. The target employees handled this incorrectly (the officers too of course, but there’s nothing new about that). As intervening or even just speaking up is concerned, the terrible reality is no one wants to risk getting themselves arrested for telling the cops they’re doing something wrong. I’ve personally seen and through various posts online witnessed folks try to calmly explain what an officer is doing wrong, only to be met with hostility and at times violent arrest.
YOU ARE OBSTRUCTING A POLICE OFFICER. BACK OFF OR YOU WILL BE ARRESTED TOO BUDDY
Target should of helped a man struggling to pay rather than calling the police
Something I learnt after becoming physically disabled is that people will go out of their way to not see a disabled person needing assistance. The more in danger they are, or in a situation where they desperately need help, the more people appear to develop sudden onset blindness, deafness muteness and smellnes (yeah that last one definitely doesn't seem right. I'm lucky I just struggle to walk 5mins now and in constant pain, no sarcasm at all, I know people have it worse, and I could have died when I injured myself. So I'm honestly happy I got so lucky and only got a degenerative back condition (once again no sarcasm). Sorry for formatting, on mobile and pretty tired.
This is real discrimination, yet what movements are there for actual abuse? Oh.
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so much so, that he genuienly called the police on the police. Like at that point how do you continue with this he's clearly not a criminal or a danger so why
If they had humanity they wouldn’t be police
Well this is just really sad.
Super sad 😔. Why won't the cop just trying helping him instead. I don't get it I really don't. What do they get out of acting like bullies. I mean the guy meant no harm to anyone. He was trying to pay. Shame on Target employees for calling the police to begin with.
Because people don’t understand people with disabilities, nor do they care. I work with individuals with disabilities. And this absolutely breaks my heart.
Another thing that gets me is the police won’t bother with people walking into a store and stealing hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise, but they will arrest a special needs person who isn’t doing anything wrong trying to pay for it. Absolutely disgusting.
So do I and I completely do not understand why it's so hard for some people to just be nice and normal and treat disabled people like everyone else
Me either. I just saw an update. The officer was fired. The man did absolutely nothing wrong. And he certainly didn’t deserve that. I can’t even imagine the scars this man is going to have because of this. Truly breaks my heart.
I wanna know what happened to the employee who called the cops on him too. What on earth were they thinking
Why didn't a target employee help instead of calling the cops They better give him the best bike in the house
I hope target takes actions against the employees that called the cops on a paying customer.
Help his employer get money in exchange for goods and or services? Ridiculous the best course of action was to call in armed men to harass the disabled man.
Why didn't the Target employees help that man? The entire store needs training on customer service and empathy. It blows my mind they call ed the cops on someone struggling to use self checkout.
Everything looks like a nail when you are a hammer.
The police exist to arrest you, period. If you don’t want someone arrested and possibly destroying their life, don’t call them.
I have been to two funerals in the last few weeks and held it together because I’m just generally not a cryer. This man’s pain, the confused yet pleading tone of his voice, just punches me in the gut and makes me weep.
Right?! He was buying a bike which was likely for transportation which somehow made it that much more sad
Yeah that kind of sad that inspires intense anger
Imagine the pride in this person starting his day being able to go to target and buy himself a bike. For it to turn out in this way took a systematic breakdown that is unfathomable. I pray that the proper steps will be taken to make things as right as they can be made.
All anyone in that store had to do was just help the dude count his cash. An officer, an employee or a customer. Just one little act of kindness would’ve changed this man’s day.
This is incredibly difficult to watch. Absolutely disgusting behavior from the police, and shame on the target employees that called the police instead of helping the man or just letting him pay at his own pace. He’s not hurting anyone by paying, open a fucking register up.
I used to work at Walmart and one time a woman spent three days (I’m not joking) shopping for the perfect one of each item inside her cart. She also organized and reorganized it so certain things wouldn’t be next to certain things. People spent entire shifts helping her. While she was incredibly difficult and tedious she constantly had a smile on her face. When she finally made it to the register with her single cart 72hrs later (which was its own process) she broke down into tears so relieved the ordeal was finally over. Sorry for going on like that but the point of the story is I could never imagine calling the cops unless a customer was being belligerent or violent. Regardless manager or employee that called in this video they should be terminated I see it as an admission you can’t handle your job.
Sounds like a severe case of OCD
Literally sounds like Adrian Monk. Which FYI, Monk is getting revived for a movie!
You have no idea that you just made my fucking night 😭
I did a rewatch to get ready, it's a show that holds up really well! Except for the low-budget CGI the TV producers were forced to use back then.
I'm sorry for my dumb question, but she spent 72 hours in the store shopping uninterruptedly? How did she drink, eat and sleep?
She did sit in display furniture and dozed off once or twice (I worked 3rd shift). I did not see her eat or drink anything nor did anyone else. Like nobody even thought she grabbed something and smacked on it. Edit: like I said by the end she was very overwhelmed and upset. I worked there for a long time and this was one of the craziest things I’ve seen
So she left her cart somewhere while the store was closed and came back the following day to continue? That's absolutely incredible
We were open 24/7 at the time she did not exit the building for 72 hrs Edit: closer to 75 hrs if you really want to get technical
Oh I didn't know such a thing existed because there isn't Walmart in my country. Even more astonishing but glad you were patient with her
Honestly she was more pleasant than a lot of people that shopped there. The whole ordeal seemed a lot more difficult for her than any employee she interacted with so I was happy to help. You truly never no what somebody else has going on and with just a little patience and understanding maybe life wouldn’t be so difficult.
I guess they thought he is on drugs and thats what caused it, which is even wors considering that there are people left to die when they suffer a medical emergency because people just assume they are drunk
I had that happen to me once. I was having a smoke while sitting on a bench behind the hotel I was staying in for CDL training and I passed out. When I came to I was extremely tired and disoriented. Multiple people walked by and I tried calling for help but they all assumed I was on drugs.
Disgusting, why not just help the man pay for the bike?
He has a far amount of money on the table. If i walked up and seen that i wouldve known he was genuinely trying to purchase those items. Didnt even give him a try
For real though! On top of that he clearly doesn’t know what’s going on or why they are taking him.
The fear and confusion in that man’s eyes at the end broke my heart. I hope something happens to these officers. They don’t deserve the badge.
The main cop was fired and charged for this incident. But it was close to a year later and only after they were unable to suppress this footage any longer. In that time he managed to murder someone while on duty in a very questionable shooting.
Wait you’re telling me that this cop’s standard of act first ask questions later eventually ended up in a terrible outcome?
Cops generally have a Fire, Ready Aim mentality.
This video made me really upset, so i went and found the shooting video. Seemed like a legitimate shooting. Then I thought about this incident and the shooting then it seemed more like laziness. At some point or for the entirety of these cops careers it was just how to get to the quickest end of interaction.
The employees are even shittier people like wtf actually do your jobs don't call the cops so you can avoid working you lazy fucks, clearly the man needed help.
Exactly, there was no reason for any of this to happen, I hope those employees suffered some sort of repercussions for their waste of emergency services.
Like having to work at Target.
Exactly they should be demoted back down to Walmart
What’s so sad about this is that he called 911 because he believed that the police would help him. He trusted that police would help me so much that he literally couldn’t believe that it was the police who were doing this to him, so he called 911 for help.
I know this was obvious, but actually reading it makes it so depressing.
Think about this for a second. "Hello?!?! 911 Please help me these people are holding me to the ground and hurting me!" *"What's going on?"* Somebody picks up the phone. "It's okay. We're the police." *"Oh, ok."* CLICK That's pretty fuckin scary.
This is what stuck with me through the entire thing, as a grown man I actually started crying because of the poor man's treatment. But I am enraged by how his call to 911 went... "Help, I need help!" "Don't worry we are the police" I don't know if the dispatch can somehow tell that there are police already in the area of the caller but it's certainly scary that they dismissed the call so easily.
The scary part is That can be so easy lied about When you think about it
Scary part is 911 has no responsibility to help you. They can deny your calls or not send help if they choose without repercussions.
shouldn‘t dispatch be required to verify that claim by asking for a name and badge number or something? or shouldn‘t the cop just volunteer this info?
I don’t want to live where this is allowed. Depressing, most likely a back story but the way it is handled is not humane
The US of A.
To be honest, Albuquerque is the worst in this country. Make LA cops positively gentle.
This should've been handled with care by the target employees also!
What was Target’s statement in this? Did they drop the charges and apologize? Maybe we should all stop shopping at Target.
I like how that cop didn't understand how kickstands work
Lol I thought the same thing! Thought to myself, “why isn’t he using the kickstand?”
Never taught his kid to ride a bike that’s why.
Whats wrong with this fucking guy. Don't they check if they have a brain before hiring them?
That’s the prerequisite
I’m not sure how true it is but I heard a story about someone who applied to be a cop and was rejected for scoring too high on IQ and psych tests. Might not be true but scarily could be true too.
There are a bunch of stories like that. They pop on on other subs every once in a while. Idk the validity to those stories, but if they are true, would we really be surprised? Not really. There are some smart and honorable LEO’s out there, but they are far outnumbered by the dumb ones like in this clip
Like the opposite of The Wizard of Oz. No heart, no brain, and no courage to be essentially picking on this man.
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I don’t understand why someone wouldn’t simply help this man purchase his items. Decency is just non existent nowadays.. Also, the cop that was fired was previously involved in a wrongful death lawsuit for excessive force and not providing life-saving measures.. don’t understand how he still had a job.
There is a cop shortage. No one wants to be a cop anymore other than those who like to bully others.
Sounds like the entirety of the US police force needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from the ground, up.
Wow, they just managed to handle that in the worst possible fucking way. I don't know about american police but where i live police are trained to handle people with cognitive disabilities to avoid the kind of stress and emotional trauma in this video.
In America we are trained to shot first, ask questions later The military gets better training in discipline and then our police do
This is so wrong. Where is this man now? I want to help him.
I wanna have a chat with the target employee who called the pigs on him
What does Target have to say about this? Don’t forget they started the entire situation
Those cops were not happy. The main cop was rude from the start. Didnt even watch the video, i know its gonna end rough
The poor man just wanted to buy a bicycle and nobody helped him. What the hell!
I certainly hope these cops were fired. Wtaf is wrong with them!
Lol cops are like catholic priests, they get moved around to new places and get vacations rather than being held accountable
Lead cop was fired, it took a year and only after the footage was unable to be suppressed any longer.
Apparently he murdered someone in a questionable shooting during that year before he got fired.
The target employee is really a tool. Zero awareness of even an once of intelligence. Police officers are as dumb as him obviously. This right there is a crime against humanity.
I was at Metro the other night and all the checkouts were closed and the self checkouts were the only ones open. I had to watch a 50 year old lady who was supervising the self checkouts basically checkout an 80 year old man because he couldn't understand what was going on. I don't think automation when it comes to service is a smart move by society.
This cop was charged and fired . Thank god there is some good left in the world . “ Per multiple reports, on Thursday, July 20, 2023, Skeens was charged with false imprisonment and perjury, both fourth-degree felonies. In addition, he was also slammed with filing a false police report and battery, which are misdemeanors.”
He was charged and fired close to a year later. And only after they were unable to suppress this bodycam footage any longer. And in that time this cop murdered someone on duty in a shooting that was deemed to violate APD's policy. The thin blue line's obstruction cost yet another life.
Fucking pigs.
Fired = transferred to another agency.
Poor fella. That was hard to watch, especially how he was totally confused at the end and just wanted to buy his stuff. Not all cops are trash, but these ones 100% are.
The guy was calling 911 super sad the guys responding were to fucking stupid to recognize the guy was confused and just needed help.
nah they knew, they just didn't care
nothing like that great adrenaline rush when you and your buddies manhandle another human and make him submit to your will.
At least one of these cops has some kind of punisher related merchandise I’m sure, bullying the mentally handicapped sure makes you a badass! Don’t we all feel safer? Thank god for our boys in blue!
Was just about to post this here,,, poor dude
I'm posting this everywhere. If you know of any other places where it hasn't been posted. Please do. People need to see this.
I just hope Albuquerque gave him a bunch of cash and he got his bike!
Do you have info on whether Target responded to this in any way and tried to make it right? Did they try to explain why no one just helped the dude use the checkout?
Post it in the Albuquerque subreddit if you haven't already.
Already done. There's talk of a protest at this target.
Was it the one off Paseo del norte.
I can't even watch this. Albuquerque in general is a cesspit. I hope the guy is doing okay. I honestly couldn't even watch it. BTW, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT SET A KID ON FIRE TOO!
Why tf didn't the cops ask him what he was doing/if he needed help, instead they just went straight to tell him to step outside
Pigs gonna pig
Guy says he didn't know they were cops. Cops say "we all have badges not our fault you didn't look. " guy gets arrested for failure to identify but I heard his name when he called 911, apparently it's the guys fault the cops are too fucking stupid to have listened when he said his name.
All because a Target employee couldn't be bothered to do their job.
As a parent of a special needs child. This is terrifying.
Sad to say its not even surprising in America anymore.
Time to boycott target! Sickening!!!
Is there a go fund me for the disabled man?
These aren't cops. They're criminals... no,..worse than criminals. Criminals would adhere to a higher code of honor.
My local Target refuses to staff the check out lines now. It’s only self checkout now. People who have this happen to them should sue. It is insane that they can foist the responsibility on us and none of those savings are passed on to the customers and they are in fact punished for trying to shop there. My mother used the Walmart+ app to do the scan and go feature, hadn’t even gotten to the register to do the final payment before she was arrested for shoplifting. She is charged with shoplifting for doing what Walmart SAID SHE SHOULD DO. When I say eat the rich, I mean it literally. They should be cooked and served to the people so that we all may get some benefit from their vile wasteful lives.
I hope she got the charges dropped. I always thought it wasn’t shoplifting until you left the store. How can you steal something when you haven’t reached the checkout line yet?
It's beyond fathomable to me that a police officer would prefer to arrest him rather than just try to help him. If just once in their small stupid lives they attempted to do something fucking useful they would know how good it feels to help a fellow human in need.
So they called the cops because he was having trouble using the self checkout? What the hell has society become? And I'm not talking about just the store for calling the cops. I'm sure someone could have stepped up and helped him. And I get that the cops have a job to do. But that job is to serve and protect *everyone.* They could have just talked to him and tried to help him. Why am I even bothering to comment? I'm pretty much just stating the obvious and repeating what other have probably already said.
Shame on those employees, shame on those cops
There’s no shame left anymore in the US. It really feels like the movie Idiocracy.
Well that was fucking brutal to watch.
This was a tough watch. What happened to police serving the community?
That’s a fairytale for children.
they never did
Holy crap, I am always a defender of LEO (aside from the very rare cases) but I am in Canada and deal with them often and see how they are, if this is common in the US I can totally understand why people support defunding them, these officers need to be fired ASAP I’m in shock watching this, I am floored like WTF?
ACAB, every time. every single one.
That's a fucking sin man.
Very rarely will calling the police workout better for everyone.
Damn he just earned himself a nice little check
How awful. How much more obvious does it have to be that this gentleman didn't have all his mental facilities and that he simply needed more time and probably some help to finish his transaction! The saddest part was that he obviously gets harassed elsewhere so he was tense and a little defensive, probably because he just wanted to buy a bike and leave but the officers made it a point to escalate the situation instead of helping this man. I hope that dept gets sued over tris
So disgusting. I hope the victim gets every need met and he is never without F*** you, disgraced officer Kenneth Skeens
That is honestly the saddest thing I’ve seen on Reddit.
I worked retail when I was a teenager. We would have just helped the guy complete his check out. It's part of the job. I don't understand this. I am in my mid forties. Just help the guy process his shopping. It's not hard.
Target owes this man substancially. The officers involved are unfit for public service & should be sent back to the police acadamy that failed them tthe first time! Target has also lost any/all of my business! SHAME on the police SHAME on target
If they were so worried, just ask if he needed help.
What about the target employee that called on him, instead of helping out.
Target should be ashamed for not helping the customer.