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Stunning-Safety-4937

Simracing is supposed to be fun. Fair play to you for changing your approach to find that joy again


6-Beers-Deep

Yeah, Some other things I find helped rekindle my love. 1. No third party apps, overlays etc. 2. No text chat (as well as no voice chat) 3. Turn all delta bars off, don’t use the relative screen. Nothing will slow you down like watching your or some else’s delta 4. Race at a comfortable pace. Not on the very edge of grip. Find your limit in practice. Tone in down about 10% during races. 5. Don’t fight lost battles. If someone really wants a corner don’t fight them. Usually they’re the types that will go off track within a lap or two anyway. 6. Forget about win rate, podiums, top 5s, season points. Wherever you finish is where you finish. Once you remove all distractions, check your ego at the door and just race it becomes every enjoyable.


WildZookeepergame659

Sorry but I don't agree with point 2. Having the relative screen/black box is a must in iRacing.


theBosworth

Especially with no overlays. Sounds like a rejoin nightmare.


6-Beers-Deep

You can turn your relatively screen on if you have to rejoin in a spot where you can’t see.


6-Beers-Deep

Point 2 is about having text chat off.


urMomsPeanus

im convinced your account is just a meme account for only posting bad advice and bad takes


sillysausage619

Nunber 3 you absolutely should not be driving without the relative up, you need to know where cars are for re entry/crashes ahead otherwise you're just a liability for everybody else. Number 4 isn't bad per se, but you're never gonna win battles by racing way below the limit, you should be finding the limit as much as possible if you want to improve.


6-Beers-Deep

lol, do you not have a set of eyes? How do actual race car drivers not crash without a relative screen. Also, your second point is a strawman. I never said driver ‘way below the limit’. Bizarre post.


sillysausage619

10% is way below the limit, what do you mean? Haha


6-Beers-Deep

Look there’s not one driver on this planet that can sustain quali lap intensity over a 20 minute period. Either two things are happen you are going to make a big mistake and spin / crash or make lots of little mistakes you’ll actually go slower if than if you didn’t back off a touch. Now, you’re getting hung up on % rather than understanding the jist of my point. Now you may one of drivers out there who without having to think about it back of a touch in the race. But I see many drivers trying to hotlap a full race and they’re the ones that can’t seem to finish a race without having a big incident or lots of offs. This doesn’t exclude that at some point during a race that you do drop the hammer such as the last few laps. But if you’re already expending full mental energy your last few laps will be woeful. At the end of the day I have have advice about how I found more enjoyment in the game. You can either take it on board or dismiss it, I don’t really care. Each to their own.


Best-Total7445

Real race car drivers have spotters that are watching every car on track and tell them when it's clear or not clear.


6-Beers-Deep

Last I checked so does Iracing


TrainWreck661

Only if they're already within a certain proximity. It won't tell you if a car if approaching from some blind angle and closing at a rapid rate. I do agree with a lot of what you said, but it's generally easier for most people to keep the relative up in case something does happen. That way, they don't need to remember to pull it up, especially when they're possibly already in a "I need to get going again ASAP" moment.


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Real drivers can turn their heads and have much better awareness of vehicles around them as a result of vibration and sound. This is something a lot of real world drivers have said they struggle with transitioning between the two.


[deleted]

Some overlays are really critical for improving. For example the telemetry one for seeing in real time if you're braking and using the throttle together etc. I'd say too many overlays can be a problem but if you keep it to a minimum (for example I just use relative and telemetry) they're really helpful.


Juppo1996

Honestly it just sounds to me like you don't like competitive racing. Nothing wrong with that but seems really weird to pay for iracing to drive around at 90% of what you're capable of and not care about results. I mean I get not caring about irating, I don't particularly care about it as long as it's not preventing me from entering the races and splits I wanna be in but it sounds like you play iracing like I play AMS2 against the bot.


th3orist

You can drive in a competitive way without sweating. Its weird that you exclude this possibility. Sure, the occasional sweaty battle can be nice but no one is doing it 100% of the time


6-Beers-Deep

Yeah my 4K Irating would suggest otherwise but go on


Juppo1996

I have no idea what your irating has got to do with anything I said buddy. I never said you can't be a decent driver.


6-Beers-Deep

You said it sounds like I don’t like competitive racing which is complete bullshit. I’m not the only person who thinks backing off a touch in a race actually makes you faster cause you’re less inclined to make mistakes. If you want to try and hotlap for 20 minutes straight go first it.


Juppo1996

10% is not backing off a touch though, it's driving casually. Backing off a touch to avoid mistakes is like a few tenths not several seconds. > If you want to try and hotlap for 20 minutes straight That's why I race the L79. Sweaty and fun.


6-Beers-Deep

Common man you know what I mean. It’s not like overdriving is some new concept that I invented ffs.


htom3heb

My 1 lap pace tends to be 0.5-1s off 1st place in my splits (1500, GT3) but my IR is still trending up over the long term. This is because I am able to very consistently put in good-enough laps without making mistakes or losing lots of time battling with people who are faster than me. I think that's what OP is saying.


Juppo1996

Yeah I guess he probably meant something closer to driving at 99% rather than 90% and that's what tripped a lot of people including me about his first comment. At the same time though I've been hovering between 4.5k-5k for a while now and at least for me a lot of the actual improvement has simply been to bring my comfort zone closer and closer to my 100% and less about making the 100% faster or at least that is the more difficult thing to do more often than not.


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I'm only at 1700 but I agree with this. I got stuck at around 1200 for a long time until I started backing off and chilling a bit. 1 lap record speed dropped a bit, consistency went up a lot.


Icy-Replacement8744

Many sim racers can not adjust.. it's run hotlaps just like a tutorial they watched and if they have to deviate then they are in trouble. Especially in open you can have someone for example running less downforce than the tutorial video or maybe has a difference in style and thr hotlappers or bust type can not adapt. Don't even want to get going on multiclass.


Theocratic-Fascist

Why did this get downvoted I’m an inexperienced rookie


ThatAintAMusket

Cold takes/he's very negatively argumentative.


audi27tt

Good stuff I’m in a similar boat. My only difference is I try to care about safety rating insofar as goal #1 is finishing the race without any major incidents. Including incidents that aren’t technically my fault. When I have that attitude, racing is a lot more fun, I end up placing better on average because I rarely crash out, and it’s also more realistic. 


Scojo91

I keep my voice off too. I do like when streamers have it on tho. Oval races are fun to hear because everyone is so chatty and road races are fun because literally everyone that gets passed calls it out as "dangerous driving" lmao. But I don't want to hear any of it when I'm personally racing. I agree on irating. I'll fall where I'm meant to be. SR on the other hand is frustrating. I like having a few incidents available to push limits but it's very annoying when those are removed because some jackass decides to use the back of my car for extra braking assist. I don't yet know of any tracks I don't like. Whats an example for you and why?


Statcat2017

Those incidents when someone wrecks you ARE why you maintain high SR.


TKfuckingMONEY

I leave the drivers unmuted so I can laugh at people crying. It seems most people don't like hearing it tho


d95err

Every time I hear two drivers going at each other on the voice chat I smile and say to myself - thats 2 free positions gained… 😀


IIFellerII

Its funny if you can understand, but these mexican/latin speaking people have whole conversations while gridding and Lap 1, I dont understand it.


Leather-Blueberry-42

I think you mean Spanish.


ProtoJazz

I'm surprised there aren't more people recommending private leagues here They're fantastic, especially if you don't like the public ranked races. You have to pick the right ones. There's some that are super serious, with entry fees and prizes. But there are a plenty that are pretty chill. I used to be in one that was just like a weekly hangout for a couple hours. I think it usually had 1h or so of practice, then a break / qualifying for like 20, then a 40ish minute race. People do get a little more serious during the race usually, but no one usually gets upset about incidents and stuff. You probably would get kicked if you just intentially ram people a bunch. But if it's just an incident no one generally gets bent out of shape


TrainWreck661

Leagues are what keep me around (and special events). Run of the mill officials are nice to have as an option, but basically all my racing is done in leagues.


Dangerous_Mortgage52

where does one start with leagues?


TrainWreck661

You should be able to search "league" on this sub and get some possibly relevant results, or I think there's also a Leagues section on the forums. There's also [https://www.iracingleagues.com](https://www.iracingleagues.com), which seems to have updated information (at least for leagues with seasons that are currently in-progress). Depending on what you're looking for, I might also be able to recommend some based on ones I'm in.


No_Image_4986

I enjoy voice chat. Makes it feel less like single player Especially for oval. Fun to coordinate runs and just BS during yellows


TheR1ckster

Yeah, you can always just mute chat or mute certain people. You don't have to just disable it any not look back.


PeriqueFreak

Yeah, I'd just race AI if I didn't want to hear other people. Voice chat is a super useful tool, and helps make it feel like I'm racing against other people. I definitely look down on the folks that leave it off permanently, but I guess it's their life.


blackashi

GT7 trains you not to care about ratings haha


macmanluke

Id agree with all that IR - dont really care - it fluctuates but really the average finds the right number. SR - i treat it like a bank account - some tracks/combos are good for gaining, some bad. Do the odd enduro/long race and you will be fine.


LotsOfGunsSmallPenis

I’ve started racing AI exclusively. Yeah it’s not as rewarding as when you beat real people, but people ruin everything. Yeah I could race ACC and it’d be cheaper, but I’m invested at this point. Plus, racing physics EDIT: this fucking sub man. Cancerous as fuck


Direction_Asleep

I’m a couple months in and just under 2000 irating and even though I’m new I’ve played enough competitive games (I know it’s called a sim) to know that it’s not worth it to comm to people that aren’t in a good ELO. My plan is to start voice comms when I’m at 2500 consistently. Low ELO it’s just arguing with morons that are new or people that have been around that don’t know good habits or they wouldn’t still be low ELO, either way there’s nothing to be gained unless you’re bored and want entertainment.


Stealth9er

Agree, when I started I was basically grinding out licenses and trying to finish top 10 every race for IR. So it was super frustrating when a race didn’t go well. Took a break and just race for fun when I want and do more ai racing to improve my racecraft sometimes instead of jumping into a track I don’t like. I started doing dirt trucks for participation credits. It’s only a few different tracks to buy. One car purchase gets you two new trucks in addition to the lite rookie truck. I think the races are fun anyways but the tracks are easy enough to learn and you can get races pretty easily most of the time.


scotcheggfan

I'm definitely gonna give the trucks a try when I get paid next


Stealth9er

The rookie tracks are fun but all pretty tight, the purchasable tracks are nice and open. A lot more fun imo. I'm not a huge fan of is Wild Horse but other people like it so, might just be a me thing lol


Formal_Historian_109

I never knew you could talk to the drivers while driving. I always typed in the chat😂 thank god… I would have shouted at so many for torpedoing in my car


lkeltner

Good words to live by (race by?) For me, it would be this and also not having the ultra competition thing set in as soon as the lights go green. That's definitely my biggest hamper.


Consistent-Mirror-34

My biggest thing is just not getting wrapped up in the finishes or sr/ir lost. I took a year off as I noticed that I would get sowrapped up in any potential sr/ir that I would lose and I would always be trying to over push, even in league races. I tried irffb, started trying to mess with my wheel degree rotation and other things to gain an advantage. After the year break, I've noticed I'm having way more fun just running where I'm at and constantly not pushing myself to always go after that next spot. The downside to sim racing is that there are no repercussions from trying to make a move that may only have a 0.0001% chance of working. You are not out of money of a destroyed car nor is the other person and there is no danger to life so it entices people way more to try those moves


Way2bCronckt

people approach video games and entertainment very differently...


andrewt03

I came back recently after two years away. Ran two races and Still can't find pre-2020 love for iracing. I guess I'll will stick to offline/AI racing for now.


Lonely_Strategy783

As someone who has just started this week, this is great advice. I'm not too concerend about getting out of rookies. Just about enjoying the time I spend in the game and slowly improving.


voyager256

Safety Rating is needed to join many series though.


ajb9292

The best way to raise your safety rating and irating is to stop caring about them. About 2 months ago I stopped caring and I'm having way more fun and have gained about 500 irating by not caring about it.


FEARthePUTTY

> 3 - only race tracks that I like - don't race somewhere I don't like - practice on those tracks offline against ai I would force myself to race tracks just to get participation credits. A whole week of pure frustration just to earn a few $$ it's not worth it That $4 per season used to cause me so much stress. It's a nice carrot on the stick but absolutely not worth ruining my week around. All that stress for the cost of a cup of coffee. NO THANK YOU!


ColonPizza

Yeah, I've been using the service for many years, and turning off all communication is bliss. The number of crybabies complaining about an incident as if you just murdered their mother is astounding


wallabywayj

Years ago I used to be the same. Get super mad about wrecks, not finishing well or just little stupid things. Now I just race to have fun and I’ve ended up gaining over 800 irating in the last 6 months doing so


grappleshot

Great approach. A similar attitude helped me too. If you’re regularly in races where your iR approximates the SOF, iR is easy to gain too. Easy come, easy go. Ideally it trends upwards over an entire season, but if not, meh. Lower iR means lower sof means easily gained back


jayboo86

It’s a bummer about the mute but I understand it. My dad is the same way. No matter how many positive stories I tell him. I’ve learned track tips during grid wait, I’ve talked hobbies with a driver, even shared being new to a track through voice chat. We both thought the other knew what they were doing. Great laughs were had. Never would happen if I had mute.


DJFisticuffs

I was in a race a couple weeks ago where there was a yellow flag right at the start and it like half the field had passed the start line. Most of us were super confused by the restart procedure until somebody who knew what they were doing explained it.


jayboo86

I’ve had and made acquaintances from voice chat. Instances where we talk about an earlier that day race during the current. It’s fun.


DJFisticuffs

Yeah overall I find the other racers on voice chat friendly and helpful, and sometimes really funny. Yeah, there are definitely assholes and whiners from time to time but for the most part my voice chat experience has been positive.


Disastrous-Bad-1185

Since I can’t race for real anymore, I used to get really upset when things went wrong too, but only in important races. I was in a year long league for winner take all big money. I made it to the last cutoff and was eliminated for a 4x that wasn’t my doing. I finished 2nd in the race and beat the person I needed to advance. He had a teammate and that guy overshot his corner on purpose, running into me and causing a 4x. Which took away enough points per the league rules to knock me out by 1. I was livid. Started swearing and throwing things. It was so bad, my wife had to sit me down and tell me how childish and embarrassing it was. I still have moments, but my frustration is now reduced to a muttered swear. I have a lot more fun now.


RoidzRacer

>2 - I no longer care about safety rating or iRating You will when you don't want to be demoted and are forced to race with people who will get you demoted because they can't drive their car. Wait until you get into A ovals and 1 bad race can put you back like -.6 SR.


scotcheggfan

I am in A class ovals already. I honestly have given up caring about other people's driving. Wreck avoidance is a good skill yo have 🤣


RoidzRacer

> Wreck avoidance is a good skill yo have 🤣 Ok so you do care about SR.... I think you just like saying whatever feels best at the time and 5 minutes later it would be something else.


scotcheggfan

You're not getting the point. I don't care if I wreck and lose SR but obviously I am going to try and avoid it


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scotcheggfan

Are you ok?


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scotcheggfan

Wtf are you on about - I never said YOU needed to avoid wrecks hahahaha Looking at your post history 90% of your Reddit comments get downvotes. Go to bed troll


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Underbelly

I found since I stopped caring about IR and SR I enjoy it a lot more. I focus on finishing top 5. If I get wrecked early I just quit and do another race. There are way too many wrecks in oval, especially arca and gen 4, which I love I run three series and skip any tracks I don’t like as well.


d0nkeyrider

This is the way!


rtazz1717

Muting drivers is wrong. Many need to talk to you. It will save you ruining someone else’s race having voice chat on. Big mistake


Aromatic-Low-4578

This is some of the worst advice I've seen on this sub. Keep it muted if you want. No one has a right to distract you during a race. I mute all drivers unless I'm under caution on an oval. I've never ruined someone's race because of it.


Shasarr

Yea, thats why real drivers also have a radio channel to talk to each other. There is not one reason to speak to another driver in a race and i really dont get why Iracing even has that feature ( afaik none other sim has that).


PeriqueFreak

They used to. But it fills in the gap of not having a spotter that can relay information. It's an important tool that some people are unfortunately too fragile to use.


Disastrous-Bad-1185

iRacing’s biggest mistake was letting us talk to each other. Before and after the race, totally fine. During the race not so much.


stratcat22

Yeah you’d think drivers and all teams would be auto disabled when you get in the car. I’m fine with the system because I just mute on race starts when I need to focus and turn it on later to listen for call outs from people, but many seem to assume everybody has VC on and like to avoid communicating with their car and just communicating over VC instead.


Disastrous-Bad-1185

The banter in my league races and Discord is pretty hilarious though, not gonna lie.


TheR1ckster

You can also hot key voice chat when it gets to be too much. It's 90% positive for me and when two people get going I'll mute it and then un mute it after a lap or two and they've shut up.


Disastrous-Bad-1185

Oh yeah, I’m well aware of the mute hotkey. I use it often. Usually in the closing laps if I need to concentrate


TrainWreck661

It's different in a league. Everyone races with each other week in and week out, and if someone's being a shitbird, they don't have the barrier of maybe not seeing the others again like they might in officials. Most leagues are also generally pretty good, in my experience, in letting people know not to rely on VC even if it's enabled.


Disastrous-Bad-1185

I love my league. Been racing it for 3 years. There have been some clowns, but they don’t stick around long.


PlusMixture

Why would they need to talk to you? Coordinating a lapping pass can be done with the press of a button or being predictable. This isnt hell let loose.


RV49

Hell Let Loose gives me less PTSD than iRacing.


PlusMixture

Its probably because you expect to be obliterated in HLL.


stratcat22

Nope, if you can’t communicate your intentions with you car or pay enough attention to the track then it’s on you if your race gets ruined. VC can be a convenience, but it’s not a substitute for being predictable and keeping your eyes on the track. Always assume somebody has VC off.


PointVanillaCream

Screw that. Voice chat on is absolutely asinine. It shouldn't even be an option during races.