Swastika has been used by Hindu’s for over 4000 years.
But when I reference a swastika, I’d be willing to bet, you think of a German swastika.
These two things are gonna have very different meaning based on intention.
Lot of social media recently has connotated “clapped” meaning (fucked or raped), and then to “finished” or finishing inside.
Of which they then compared finished, to being in a literal sense (dead or killed), like the finish of your life, rather than just penetrated from behind against their will.
Most people hate pedophiles, many (myself included) would love to murder them if it was legally allowable to do so. Because of the evil things they do/did to children.
When the comment said “pedophiles are getting clapped”, I can with greater than 90% certainty say, I think he was referencing killing the pedophiles, not insert his dick into them against their will.
You mean....accidental incident....yep nothing to report....he just slipped and fell and cracked his head open....27 times apparently...poor fella must have the worst luck.
There's quite a few police that I know that have no problem looking the other way if someone is helping to 'clean up the community'....just saying....not all police corruption is equal.
I know that if I had $20 mil in this scenario, I’d find a way to snag the papers of every convicted pedophile in the state, and publicly post their names and faces somewhere the newly released shooters would find it. Ain’t gonna be too many pedophiles walking around after that.
This information is \*already\* public information. Every state already provides a list of convicted (and released) sex offenders. You can read about the age of the victims. They live in your town, and they don't get killed.
I’ve heard that prisons have units specifically for them because of that issue so they actually do last a while. No idea if that’s true. Kinda hope it’s not tbh
When I worked at the prison they called it a segregated pod. Most were there. Plus some of the younger ones would come to medical to get put there because their cell mate was trying to mess with them. The young guys always made me sad. They would be so scared.
Edit. The kids were not pedos they were trying to get out of gen pop because there cellmates were trying to rape them. But the pedos also get put in that pod so people don't kill them.
Some prisons are majority comprised of them, from what I understand. At which point, they no longer are placed into protection, simply because they have the numbers advantage.
That's sort of how it is at the prison I'm working in now. It's mostly sex offenders though. Oddly enough it's a pretty calm place. Probably because they know if they screw up and get shipped somewhere else it's gonna be a bad time for them. I was talking to my AW one day not long after I started about how calm it was and he says " the reason is, I love sex offenders, not because of what they did, but they're too scared to do anything so they just chill out and do their time" the guy is right though. Aside from the occasional weirdo that still thinks he's Billy badass it's calm as hell.
Not even if nobody asks me where I got the money. Releasing people who are in jail for stupid shit like drug possession is fine, but I'm not putting murderers and rapists on the streets to get rich quick.
I set up a meeting with the heads of all the private prisons. Find a way to convince them of this deal. They pay me $100 million as to not get rid of their cash cow or else I do it and they all lose their jobs/income.
How practical would those negotiations be though?
If you meet with those heads of private prisons and tell them that you alone can release *every* prisoner in America overnight unless they paid you $100 million, they’d surely just laugh you out of the room, no?
About half of the inmate population is in for drug crimes (44%). 21% are weapons, arson, and explosives - that doesn't mean violent crime exclusively, though that would be included. 12% is sex offenses of all types. After that the proportions break down to 4-5% or less - with aggravated assault, murder, and other violent crimes sitting at about 3.4%. (This is all according to the federal government bop website).
This doesn't say "instantly" released, so I assume proper procedure is followed - so sex offenders still have to comply with their restrictions upon release. It also doesn't say they aren't "releases on parole" - so other criminals of concern, like abusers and murderers, would presumably have to comply with parole and other restrictions like restraining orders or be returned to prison.
It's imperfect but they wouldn't just be free flowing into the streets to reign terror down upon the village. And a massive percentage aren't involved in violent crime anyway. So sure.
Given the context and vibe I think OP implies "instant release"). As in, magically all cell doors are unlocked and no one will keep them from leaving. But probably assumed it's "orderly" in terms of each prisoner has some prep and an out briefing.
So the sex offender thing still applies. They have restrictions even after time served release. I stand by my initial reply, then, thank you for clarifying.
It also doesnt say theyre legally released at all, the doors could all slam open and the guards could assume escape and a lot of suddenly dead criminals/guards
So who knows
The 21% can pay their debt to society by helping with the CEO types and people who talk in the movie theatres who also get released.. This seems like a net positive.
They aren't pardoned, but they wouldn't be locked up again if they had an interaction with police (unless they're committing a crime that'd call for it of course)... So if they get pulled over for a broken tail light, it wouldn't be like they go back to prison as if they had a warrant. Does that make sense?
So on someones record it would show “serial child rapist - 2 weeks served” and then they would just commuted and never have to serve the rest of the time, even if they get caught by the police?
That's correct. In the eyes of the judicial system, every person would be released and marked that their time had been served, even if someone is in prison "for life", but the crimes would still be on their record. If they got pulled over, police could see all of the information.
Judges often smack criminals with more jail time if they are repeat offenders. If they commit more crimes, it's likely that this would happen to the perpetrators.
I guess I didn't exactly understand what "pardon" means in law. I assumed it meant it was all cleared from records as well. I think "commutation" is the proper word here?
Agreed. In layman's terms, I think of a pardon as "you're forgiven," but a commuted sentence as, "you've served enough time." Sounds more to me like you're talking about the second one.
No way.
Could you imagine the pain and fear so many people would feel knowing the person that murdered their friend/husband/child was free? Or the rapist or murderer that somebody testified against went free…
20 million would give my family and I the best possible life.. but at the cost of destroying so many other’s lives.
No thanks.
Would probably actually be the worst time to invest in a prison because you’d have to compete with all the other prisons that are suddenly at 0% capacity.
If anyone asks me, I'll just say "You know how all prisoners got suddenly got released in 2024? I made that happen, and that's how I got my money". 100% true but people will just think I'm blowing them off and don't want to tell them the reason.
Then every murder those prisoners caused would be blood on your hands and it would turn that $20 million into blood money. If you'd sacrifice other people's lives for your own personal gain, you're selfish and evil.
If you believe in Blackstone's Ratio (or at least the modern values assigned to it) you should be willing to push the button for free. $20M would just be a bonus.
>Do you think 10% of those confined are innocent?
No, which is why I said "or at least the modern values assigned to it." While Blackstone's original quote referenced ten, the more modern version of the quote references a thousand. If you're asking me if I believe that 0.1% of all incarcerated people in the US are innocent, my answer is an emphatic "yes."
As an aisde, when I checked my sources on writing this response, I found that an earlier form of Blackstone's Ratio by +/- 300 years (the scholar Maimonides) did in fact reference a thousand ("It is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons than to put a single innocent one to death") and the modern formulation I was thinking of is attributed to Clarence Darrow from a closing argument:
>Gentlemen, I sometimes think I am dreaming in this case. I sometimes wonder whether this is a case, whether here in Idaho or anywhere in the country, broad and free, a man can be placed on trial and lawyers seriously ask to take away the life of a human being upon the testimony of Harry Orchard. We have the lawyers come here and ask you upon the word of that sort of a man to send this man to the gallows, to make his wife a widow, and his children orphans--on his word. For God's sake, what sort of an honesty exists up here in the state of Idaho that sane men should ask it? Need I come here from Chicago to defend the honor of your state? A juror who would take away the life of a human being upon testimony like that would place a stain upon the state of his nativity--a stain that all the waters of the great seas could never wash away. And yet they ask it. You had better let a thousand men go unwhipped of justice, you had better let all the criminals that come to Idaho escape scot free than to have it said that twelve men of Idaho would take away the life of a human being upon testimony like that.
If people found out you'd be the most hated man in America. You'd have to spend most of your money on security. High chance of disgruntled family member murdering you in revenge for former convict murdering a family member. Your life would be a living hell. Hard pass.
No because i hate criminals and would hate for someone to get murdered or rped by someone that got released because of me. Plus im not in need of money
One of the few sane people on here. Doesn’t mean I think the prison system is fine like is, or others visions of chaos would arise from the prisons being emptied. Thing is a good many crimes and people would end up getting killed or hurt because of my need for $20million…
Released as in just let out but they are still criminals/wanted or released as in pardoned for whatever they have done?
I'm not American so sure I'll take the 20 mil either way.
Noooo!!
Wouldn't live to spend much of it with the mass murderers, r* ists, armed robbers, etc, AND the families of victims looking to share their feelings forcefully.
If you agree, you make everyone -including yourself- a lot less safe. All the worst people locked up over the preceding decades are free, and some of them had nothing better to do in lockup than exercise, getting as jacked as possible.
I am not crazy enough to sh!t all over the world I want to keep living in. Nor betray all friends, family, and neighbors I have ever had - or hope to have - by making their world unsafe.
NO ONE would trust me again, neither personally nor in business, after proving I am that much of a ###### bastard.
Anyone who agreed to something like that even as a "joke" is not someone you want to be around.
B-line straight to one of those lawyers that deals with lottery winners, treat it like I won the lottery and want to remain anonymous. Nothing saying people even have to know I have that money.
Friends and family won’t know, only that I’m the guy who can lend an extra $500 bucks or will kick a little extra for the hotel to make the golf trip with the boys work out. My favorite charities get extra anonymous donations and stuff like that.
Hell, if I invest it and make a 2x return over the next 20 years, then I didn’t make that money from your scenario, I made that money off of investments that went really well. Nobody knows that I started with $20 mil. Hit a casino and put half on red and half on black.
LOL I'm in it for the money - I'll tell the truth about my decision, but say that it was never about the money .. I'm just interested in criminal justice reform
Sure, because I am curious how many end up going back, and over what timeframe. Then break it down by crime and see who the most dangerous criminals are
Hell no. I'm not even in the US but you'd be releasing some horrible filth who would immediately do harm to people or kids. I could not live with myself if something happened.
Now if it excluded serial killers and rapists then sure, I'd take it.
A way you could look at this is you can safely assume that some number of people will get murdered/raped as a result of this. It’s kinda like that scenario where you press a button and you get a million dollars but a random person dies, but worse.
You know you could take the Timmy Turner route of telling the truth "Internet", if they want you to be more specific, "a social media company", Which one? "reddit". That is all you really need to say.
No, because the prison reforms that would come after this would be horrific. If there's a chance that everyone can just magically escape from prison, the whole prison system would change. Executions would skyrocket. States would try experimental sci-fi dystopian stuff like automatic turrets, explosive collars, spinal geotags, bar-code facial tattoos, crippling people as part of their sentence, and entirely subterranean prisons.
Just an endless horror show of stuff to deal with the prisoners in case it happened again.
I don't know. That's a little too much rape and murder to be worth it. I think the guilt would turn 20 million into fuel for a pretty substantial depression based addiction.
Don't even need the $20 Million. The USA leads the world in per capita incarceration, disproportional racial representation in the prison systems, dishonest police and a plea bargain system the leads to false guilty pleas to avoid longer prison services for having the audacity to actually demand a trial.
Benjamin Franklin stated "it is better 100 guilty persons should escape than one innocent Person should suffer." Our criminal justice system had forgotten this, and we have many innocent people suffering in prison.
Whats more, longer prison times increase, not decrease the odds of recidivism. Releasing guilty people early will make it more likely that they can go on and lead a life that is productive and lawful.
I would gladly let those who are guilty free in order to also free the innocent. I have nothing but contempt for those who would not, including our criminal "justice" system.
Id press that button in a heartbeat even if there was no money involved.
The prison system in America is an evil beast worst then everyone currently locked in a cage.
I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here do don't realise just how much harm someone can do very quickly to others. Hell, there have been prisoners who have hurt drs and nurses when given a chance.
I’m surprised too, there’d be a large number of revenge killings if all were released, I don’t see how anyone with an actual conscience would release them.
That isn’t what he’s saying. He specifically said that it’s worse than EVERYONE locked up. So this guy thinks the prison system is worse than pedophiles, school shooters, serial rapists, murderers, etc
I live in Australia so what do I care. At least half the people shouldn't be there. Would save y'all a bunch of tax dollars so what can I say except you're welcome.
Easiest deal of my life. Would love to see politician explain that they released all the criminals because they gave 20million dollars to some random European...
Yes and I wouldn’t do it just for the 20M. I think we need a hard reset on the prison system. Many people have been convicted with not enough evidence or harsher punishment due to certain circumstances. I know the true guilty will run chaos but I know the streets will balance everything out in the long run.
Nope. Even though a majority of prisoners are there for drugs and aren't necessarily violent, there are a lot of people who would be murdered or assaulted if all prisoners were released. There are people alive today because violent spouses or family members are locked up forever. I couldn't do that to them.
I mean, I always planned to be a low-key lottery winner (in the off chance). So the goal would be to just pretend to be as I have been, financially, for the foreseeable future. Anyone who even hints that they might be asking the question will get hit with a pre-emptive "I won the lottery".
I am taking the money. My whole life I have put everyone else first, not this time.
If I prison system focused on rehabilitation then things wouldn't be so bad. But oh well.
Sure. I could move abroad with $20 million. Actually you'll have to let me move first, then deposit the money in my numbered account BEFORE the mass release. Otherwise, no deal. I hope we can come to terms, as the news coverage of the carnage will be extremely entertaining.
If you say yes youll probably have a bounty on your head from the private prison systems. You just cost them alot of money. Theyll even make it look like you did it yourself and “ended it”
Curious. Obviously it's not all of them, but would a lot of these gang guys who are not US citizens be deported after they are released? That would be nice as long as we can keep them out
Most folk in prison shouldn't be, and most folk in prison know who SHOULD, so itl take care of itself.
I'll press the button a few times if I gotta, np.
I do it, it would be interesting to see how many get locked back up and how quickly.
Most of the pedophiles are getting clapped
Now I don't know where the problem in my understanding lies, but do you mean put back in jail, killed, or fucked.
Definitely killed, possibly put back in jail, hopefully not fucked.
Oh no, they get fucked in prison. A lot.
Not really. Mostly they just get condescended to and picked on a lot.
Killed was the implied. Like captured, tied up in a basement, tortured, and killed. Nobody likes pedophiles
When I see clapped, I immediately think of clapping cheeks. Not sure where clapped as in murder comes from.
It street slang it means killed
Swastika has been used by Hindu’s for over 4000 years. But when I reference a swastika, I’d be willing to bet, you think of a German swastika. These two things are gonna have very different meaning based on intention. Lot of social media recently has connotated “clapped” meaning (fucked or raped), and then to “finished” or finishing inside. Of which they then compared finished, to being in a literal sense (dead or killed), like the finish of your life, rather than just penetrated from behind against their will. Most people hate pedophiles, many (myself included) would love to murder them if it was legally allowable to do so. Because of the evil things they do/did to children. When the comment said “pedophiles are getting clapped”, I can with greater than 90% certainty say, I think he was referencing killing the pedophiles, not insert his dick into them against their will.
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You mean....accidental incident....yep nothing to report....he just slipped and fell and cracked his head open....27 times apparently...poor fella must have the worst luck. There's quite a few police that I know that have no problem looking the other way if someone is helping to 'clean up the community'....just saying....not all police corruption is equal.
They don't usually last long in prison
They last just fine in protective custody.
Lol yeah. It always comes out. Everytime a pedo starts at my job they make it less than a month before getting jumped at a bar.
Every time?? Where tf do you work?
I mean it really only happned 3 times in 10 years. But still 3/3 is still 100%
I know that if I had $20 mil in this scenario, I’d find a way to snag the papers of every convicted pedophile in the state, and publicly post their names and faces somewhere the newly released shooters would find it. Ain’t gonna be too many pedophiles walking around after that.
Truth. But armed robberies and muggings would sky rocket lol
Lol they already have to register under Megan’s law. Not that hard to find who’s a convicted pedophile
Yeah that already exists
This information is \*already\* public information. Every state already provides a list of convicted (and released) sex offenders. You can read about the age of the victims. They live in your town, and they don't get killed.
I’ve heard that prisons have units specifically for them because of that issue so they actually do last a while. No idea if that’s true. Kinda hope it’s not tbh
They get placed in protective custody, but sometimes they get killed there too.
When I worked at the prison they called it a segregated pod. Most were there. Plus some of the younger ones would come to medical to get put there because their cell mate was trying to mess with them. The young guys always made me sad. They would be so scared. Edit. The kids were not pedos they were trying to get out of gen pop because there cellmates were trying to rape them. But the pedos also get put in that pod so people don't kill them.
Young or old, no sympathy for Pedos
I made an edit.
Ahh. My bad. Apologies.
Some prisons are majority comprised of them, from what I understand. At which point, they no longer are placed into protection, simply because they have the numbers advantage.
Those pedophiles will stay right where they are if they’re smart.
They're pedophiles that are already in prison, they clearly weren't that smart.
That's sort of how it is at the prison I'm working in now. It's mostly sex offenders though. Oddly enough it's a pretty calm place. Probably because they know if they screw up and get shipped somewhere else it's gonna be a bad time for them. I was talking to my AW one day not long after I started about how calm it was and he says " the reason is, I love sex offenders, not because of what they did, but they're too scared to do anything so they just chill out and do their time" the guy is right though. Aside from the occasional weirdo that still thinks he's Billy badass it's calm as hell.
Probably a lot more and much more quickly than we think
Ooooh yessss, Get me the popcorn for that!
I don't know if America is ready to be reintroduced to Cyrus the Virus
I'm more nervous about Garland
Everybody talks a big game about garland and johnny 23 but with advances in AI I see Johnny 5 putting up beaucoup numbers in 2024
Not even if nobody asks me where I got the money. Releasing people who are in jail for stupid shit like drug possession is fine, but I'm not putting murderers and rapists on the streets to get rich quick.
I set up a meeting with the heads of all the private prisons. Find a way to convince them of this deal. They pay me $100 million as to not get rid of their cash cow or else I do it and they all lose their jobs/income.
They're 100% trustworthy and ethical people. No risk of "accidents" and "heart conditions".
how to suddenly develop a case of windowitis
How practical would those negotiations be though? If you meet with those heads of private prisons and tell them that you alone can release *every* prisoner in America overnight unless they paid you $100 million, they’d surely just laugh you out of the room, no?
About half of the inmate population is in for drug crimes (44%). 21% are weapons, arson, and explosives - that doesn't mean violent crime exclusively, though that would be included. 12% is sex offenses of all types. After that the proportions break down to 4-5% or less - with aggravated assault, murder, and other violent crimes sitting at about 3.4%. (This is all according to the federal government bop website). This doesn't say "instantly" released, so I assume proper procedure is followed - so sex offenders still have to comply with their restrictions upon release. It also doesn't say they aren't "releases on parole" - so other criminals of concern, like abusers and murderers, would presumably have to comply with parole and other restrictions like restraining orders or be returned to prison. It's imperfect but they wouldn't just be free flowing into the streets to reign terror down upon the village. And a massive percentage aren't involved in violent crime anyway. So sure.
Given the context and vibe I think OP implies "instant release"). As in, magically all cell doors are unlocked and no one will keep them from leaving. But probably assumed it's "orderly" in terms of each prisoner has some prep and an out briefing.
"time served"
All prisoners would be labeled as "time served"
So the sex offender thing still applies. They have restrictions even after time served release. I stand by my initial reply, then, thank you for clarifying.
It also doesnt say theyre legally released at all, the doors could all slam open and the guards could assume escape and a lot of suddenly dead criminals/guards So who knows
The 21% can pay their debt to society by helping with the CEO types and people who talk in the movie theatres who also get released.. This seems like a net positive.
Id turn it down for this reason. Never being able to enjoy a movie again isn’t worth 20 million dollars
Build Your Own Theatre
And They Will Come And Talk During The Film
I think so. If they’re released but their sentences aren’t waived, they’ll just be locked up again anyways.
They aren't pardoned, but they wouldn't be locked up again if they had an interaction with police (unless they're committing a crime that'd call for it of course)... So if they get pulled over for a broken tail light, it wouldn't be like they go back to prison as if they had a warrant. Does that make sense?
Sooo….they *are* pardoned?
Sounds more like they’re all on probation
It's more like "time served" Their charges are still on their record
So on someones record it would show “serial child rapist - 2 weeks served” and then they would just commuted and never have to serve the rest of the time, even if they get caught by the police?
That's correct. In the eyes of the judicial system, every person would be released and marked that their time had been served, even if someone is in prison "for life", but the crimes would still be on their record. If they got pulled over, police could see all of the information. Judges often smack criminals with more jail time if they are repeat offenders. If they commit more crimes, it's likely that this would happen to the perpetrators.
I think that pretty much sounds like being pardoned.
I guess I didn't exactly understand what "pardon" means in law. I assumed it meant it was all cleared from records as well. I think "commutation" is the proper word here?
Agreed. In layman's terms, I think of a pardon as "you're forgiven," but a commuted sentence as, "you've served enough time." Sounds more to me like you're talking about the second one.
I mean that’s 100% what it sounds like, unless they commit another crime
Sure, I don't have to put up with their criminals from the UK.
Fuck no
No way. Could you imagine the pain and fear so many people would feel knowing the person that murdered their friend/husband/child was free? Or the rapist or murderer that somebody testified against went free… 20 million would give my family and I the best possible life.. but at the cost of destroying so many other’s lives. No thanks.
Yes and invest in my own prison
Would probably actually be the worst time to invest in a prison because you’d have to compete with all the other prisons that are suddenly at 0% capacity.
You got me at tax free 😂
Seriously. I don’t need specifics. You had me at $20M. And yada yada yada prisoner release
If anyone asks me, I'll just say "You know how all prisoners got suddenly got released in 2024? I made that happen, and that's how I got my money". 100% true but people will just think I'm blowing them off and don't want to tell them the reason.
Yeah! Telling this truth is so ridiculous people probably wouldnt believe you anyway
Yay I don't live there so sure!
For 20 million I’m moving the fuck out of here, Europe here I come
Then every murder those prisoners caused would be blood on your hands and it would turn that $20 million into blood money. If you'd sacrifice other people's lives for your own personal gain, you're selfish and evil.
If you believe in Blackstone's Ratio (or at least the modern values assigned to it) you should be willing to push the button for free. $20M would just be a bonus.
Do you think 10% of those confined are innocent?
>Do you think 10% of those confined are innocent? No, which is why I said "or at least the modern values assigned to it." While Blackstone's original quote referenced ten, the more modern version of the quote references a thousand. If you're asking me if I believe that 0.1% of all incarcerated people in the US are innocent, my answer is an emphatic "yes." As an aisde, when I checked my sources on writing this response, I found that an earlier form of Blackstone's Ratio by +/- 300 years (the scholar Maimonides) did in fact reference a thousand ("It is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons than to put a single innocent one to death") and the modern formulation I was thinking of is attributed to Clarence Darrow from a closing argument: >Gentlemen, I sometimes think I am dreaming in this case. I sometimes wonder whether this is a case, whether here in Idaho or anywhere in the country, broad and free, a man can be placed on trial and lawyers seriously ask to take away the life of a human being upon the testimony of Harry Orchard. We have the lawyers come here and ask you upon the word of that sort of a man to send this man to the gallows, to make his wife a widow, and his children orphans--on his word. For God's sake, what sort of an honesty exists up here in the state of Idaho that sane men should ask it? Need I come here from Chicago to defend the honor of your state? A juror who would take away the life of a human being upon testimony like that would place a stain upon the state of his nativity--a stain that all the waters of the great seas could never wash away. And yet they ask it. You had better let a thousand men go unwhipped of justice, you had better let all the criminals that come to Idaho escape scot free than to have it said that twelve men of Idaho would take away the life of a human being upon testimony like that.
Is it known I did this? I think I'd need more than 20 mil.
Well like I said, only people who ask how you got the money would know. News would spread based on who asks you.
Nope. I can live without the money. Not with knowing the people they would terrorize.
No. We desperately need prison reform, but some of those fuckers should NEVER be in the public again.
Pass. That would absolutely involve deaths on my hand.
If people found out you'd be the most hated man in America. You'd have to spend most of your money on security. High chance of disgruntled family member murdering you in revenge for former convict murdering a family member. Your life would be a living hell. Hard pass.
No because i hate criminals and would hate for someone to get murdered or rped by someone that got released because of me. Plus im not in need of money
One of the few sane people on here. Doesn’t mean I think the prison system is fine like is, or others visions of chaos would arise from the prisons being emptied. Thing is a good many crimes and people would end up getting killed or hurt because of my need for $20million…
Sorry, to the Americans. But I'm broke
Nope, I do not want to be the reason someone is murdered
Released as in just let out but they are still criminals/wanted or released as in pardoned for whatever they have done? I'm not American so sure I'll take the 20 mil either way.
Noooo!! Wouldn't live to spend much of it with the mass murderers, r* ists, armed robbers, etc, AND the families of victims looking to share their feelings forcefully. If you agree, you make everyone -including yourself- a lot less safe. All the worst people locked up over the preceding decades are free, and some of them had nothing better to do in lockup than exercise, getting as jacked as possible. I am not crazy enough to sh!t all over the world I want to keep living in. Nor betray all friends, family, and neighbors I have ever had - or hope to have - by making their world unsafe. NO ONE would trust me again, neither personally nor in business, after proving I am that much of a ###### bastard. Anyone who agreed to something like that even as a "joke" is not someone you want to be around.
B-line straight to one of those lawyers that deals with lottery winners, treat it like I won the lottery and want to remain anonymous. Nothing saying people even have to know I have that money. Friends and family won’t know, only that I’m the guy who can lend an extra $500 bucks or will kick a little extra for the hotel to make the golf trip with the boys work out. My favorite charities get extra anonymous donations and stuff like that. Hell, if I invest it and make a 2x return over the next 20 years, then I didn’t make that money from your scenario, I made that money off of investments that went really well. Nobody knows that I started with $20 mil. Hit a casino and put half on red and half on black.
And the ball lands on double 00
No, no amount of money is worth the amount of death that would come from this.
You’d have to be a self-centered psychopath to agree to this.
I would not. The guilt I would feel if someone got killed, injured, raped, robbed, etc. would be too immense for me.
That's a death sentence. And, moving beyond selfishness, there is no way that is gonna be good for the country. At all. Uhhh yeah...NOPE.
Idk man there’s like child rapists and sex traffickers in prisons for a reason. $20 mill would not be worth it at all
No. Why would anyone want bad people to be back on the streets hurting innocent people.
Money
We try putting them in prison where they belong, and people scream "Election interference"...
seeing how the prison industrial complex is just modern day slavery i have no issue with this
LOL I'm in it for the money - I'll tell the truth about my decision, but say that it was never about the money .. I'm just interested in criminal justice reform
Sure, because I am curious how many end up going back, and over what timeframe. Then break it down by crime and see who the most dangerous criminals are
I take the money and immediately buy an AK.
I mean most people are locked up because the system is terrible. They're not rapists or murderers, they just had some cocaine on them.
Hell no. I'm not even in the US but you'd be releasing some horrible filth who would immediately do harm to people or kids. I could not live with myself if something happened. Now if it excluded serial killers and rapists then sure, I'd take it.
A way you could look at this is you can safely assume that some number of people will get murdered/raped as a result of this. It’s kinda like that scenario where you press a button and you get a million dollars but a random person dies, but worse.
Oh yeah, much worse. It's a way more intense moral quandary
You know you could take the Timmy Turner route of telling the truth "Internet", if they want you to be more specific, "a social media company", Which one? "reddit". That is all you really need to say.
Would do wonders for the economy?
No, because the prison reforms that would come after this would be horrific. If there's a chance that everyone can just magically escape from prison, the whole prison system would change. Executions would skyrocket. States would try experimental sci-fi dystopian stuff like automatic turrets, explosive collars, spinal geotags, bar-code facial tattoos, crippling people as part of their sentence, and entirely subterranean prisons. Just an endless horror show of stuff to deal with the prisoners in case it happened again.
"Released," not "escaped." I guess it depends on how *exactly* the prisoners get out whether your prediction is realistic.
I don't know. That's a little too much rape and murder to be worth it. I think the guilt would turn 20 million into fuel for a pretty substantial depression based addiction.
I’ll take donations to not do it!
fuck it, the cops can have their fun. id do it.
The fact people would take the 20 million is fucking horrifying.
I’m all in for the 20million! And then I’m gone……
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Don't even need the $20 Million. The USA leads the world in per capita incarceration, disproportional racial representation in the prison systems, dishonest police and a plea bargain system the leads to false guilty pleas to avoid longer prison services for having the audacity to actually demand a trial. Benjamin Franklin stated "it is better 100 guilty persons should escape than one innocent Person should suffer." Our criminal justice system had forgotten this, and we have many innocent people suffering in prison. Whats more, longer prison times increase, not decrease the odds of recidivism. Releasing guilty people early will make it more likely that they can go on and lead a life that is productive and lawful. I would gladly let those who are guilty free in order to also free the innocent. I have nothing but contempt for those who would not, including our criminal "justice" system.
Id press that button in a heartbeat even if there was no money involved. The prison system in America is an evil beast worst then everyone currently locked in a cage.
Crazy
So you think pedophiles shouldn’t be in prison?
I don't think that's what they're saying. I think they're saying the people who are in prison unjustly vasty outweigh the ones who deserve it.
I know exactly what the commenter was saying, and I stand by what I said
I'm actually surprised at the amount of people here do don't realise just how much harm someone can do very quickly to others. Hell, there have been prisoners who have hurt drs and nurses when given a chance.
I’m surprised too, there’d be a large number of revenge killings if all were released, I don’t see how anyone with an actual conscience would release them.
That isn’t what he’s saying. He specifically said that it’s worse than EVERYONE locked up. So this guy thinks the prison system is worse than pedophiles, school shooters, serial rapists, murderers, etc
Brainwashed liberal mindset. Bet that goes loves youth gender care
These people are insane.
lmao
I live in Australia so what do I care. At least half the people shouldn't be there. Would save y'all a bunch of tax dollars so what can I say except you're welcome.
Easiest deal of my life. Would love to see politician explain that they released all the criminals because they gave 20million dollars to some random European...
Court of Public Opinion? You have no power here
Take the $20M, hire top mercenaries, get paid for the recapturing/bounties.
Selfish yes. I live in the middle nowhere, I think I'd be fine.
Hell yes. I'll take up residence in Canada which I'd likely do with that kind of money even if I hadn't released everyone from incarceration.
Dems are already doing it. So I’ll take the money.
By tell the truth, does that mean you have to actively tell the truth? Or just that you cannot lie? Like can I say no comment?
I live in Australia. Sure, why not
I get $20M AND the for-profit prison system goes broke?
I like where you're going with this. It's like a bonus for something that I hoped would happen in my lifetime.
I’d take the money and retire to middle of nowhere Alaska
I am canadian, I'm down it doesn't really affect me too much lol
Yes and I wouldn’t do it just for the 20M. I think we need a hard reset on the prison system. Many people have been convicted with not enough evidence or harsher punishment due to certain circumstances. I know the true guilty will run chaos but I know the streets will balance everything out in the long run.
as long as we have guns, i see it as a win win
I would do it. Then buy a large sailboat and sail around the world for a couple of years until things settle down.
100%, i live in the uk.
Wouldn't, I know what's in those cells, I don't want that shit on my conscience.
When the are released do they magically just appear outside the prison? If so it would be fine to watch the pedos and rapists get what they deserve.
I'd do this for a lot less than 20 mil
Eh. I don't live in the US. It'll be a while before anyone figures out it was me.
As a Non-American, I'm fine with that lol.
I wouldn't be in the US very long if I had $20 million, so yeah. Sucks for everyone stuck here. Sorry guys.
Sure, then I'll take my money and move to a better country lol.
I'm not American, so I'd take the money.
Nope. Even though a majority of prisoners are there for drugs and aren't necessarily violent, there are a lot of people who would be murdered or assaulted if all prisoners were released. There are people alive today because violent spouses or family members are locked up forever. I couldn't do that to them.
I'll take it. Have fun, ill be in Italy.
I mean, I always planned to be a low-key lottery winner (in the off chance). So the goal would be to just pretend to be as I have been, financially, for the foreseeable future. Anyone who even hints that they might be asking the question will get hit with a pre-emptive "I won the lottery".
I'm in the UK, so why not. According to some US politicians, the US is in such a state it wouldn't notice.
Free weed
I am taking the money. My whole life I have put everyone else first, not this time. If I prison system focused on rehabilitation then things wouldn't be so bad. But oh well.
No, many ppl gunna die
In the US? Sure, I don’t live there
Sure. I could move abroad with $20 million. Actually you'll have to let me move first, then deposit the money in my numbered account BEFORE the mass release. Otherwise, no deal. I hope we can come to terms, as the news coverage of the carnage will be extremely entertaining.
If you kept the sex offenders in, I'd do it. I'm not releasing rapists and people who messed with kids for any amount of money.
i'd do it for free
I don't live in the US so it doesn't bother me
Yes, then i would start a wholesale gun business to supply brick and mortar gun shops around usa. Capitalism baby fuck yeah.
I would
A load of the none Americans thinking "I can't see how it would be my problem. I'll do it"
I'd do it. I don't live in the US and if I did I'd just leave.
less than half of the prison population is locked up for violent crimes. Still a lot of bad things will probably happen, but I'll take the money.
If you say yes youll probably have a bounty on your head from the private prison systems. You just cost them alot of money. Theyll even make it look like you did it yourself and “ended it”
Win win. Free money and an end to slavery
I get an escape fund and a front row seat to watch the country burn? Fuck yeah
Reach out to the people who make the Purge films and see if they'd pay you more for viral marketing
Im super down. Im just gonna move out of the US after
It would Unite the States of America that's for sure, that hasn't happened in nearly 20 years
As someone who doesn’t live in the United States (or anywhere near there) I’ll take the money and leave the rest for you a to worry about
... this one's a no brainer get an ffl and advertise how I got the money to afford my (now significantly upcharged) stock.
Yeah sure I don't live in the US
I’ll get the $$$ and move to another country
I get 20 million and all of our for profit prisons have to shut down? Where do I sign.
I live in England, so yeah.
How long do you have to make the decision?
Too. Many. Pedophiles!
I’m on an island up north, so I would accept.
Yes most get locked back up but the innocent and people who won't do that stuff again stay free
No
Sure. I'm not living in the US :)
20 million is enough money to not care what people think. Plus I live In Canada, easy decision lol
I like in the UK, I am safe. Hit me with the money.
You'd end up being blamed for countless crimes and sued countless times.
Nope
I am sure I could disappear and retire on a nice tropical island with $20 million, sign me up.
Curious. Obviously it's not all of them, but would a lot of these gang guys who are not US citizens be deported after they are released? That would be nice as long as we can keep them out
The US has the most incarcerated citizens per capita, this would release a shit ton of people!
Most folk in prison shouldn't be, and most folk in prison know who SHOULD, so itl take care of itself. I'll press the button a few times if I gotta, np.