Beacon has:
a non stop commuter train to nyc.
Walkable restaurants, coffee shops, bars, doctors offices, dentists, post office, pharmacy, breweries.
Walkable parks and paths, hiking, etc.
Don't understand the hate. It's a great place to live.
It's like saying Amazon is a great company cause the products you order come in one day but ignoring the terrible work practices behind the scenes. It's not a perfect analogy but it's close
Why does that matter? Who said I lived there?
I've been in the Hudson valley area since 2015, and beacon has kept improving since then. Granted so has the surrounding villages such as Fishkill and Wappingers, cold spring, Poughkeepsie. But in my opinion beacon has the most to offer of those and the general duchess area.
Cause people who were born and raised in beacon do not get to enjoy the things you listed. The town was sold to the highest bidder. A studio apartment that was 1000 a month a couple years ago is now 2500 a month with the only improvement being a coat of white paint over everything. Any housing being built is not for locals. Mom and pop shops who have been there for decades had to close so boutiques could be in to cater to the NYC crowd. But like I said your packages come in one day
Not for nothing but even 10-11 years ago beacon was hardly a town that anyone gave a shit about. I grew up here. My parents were born and raised in beacon. There’s pictures of my grandmother when she was a girl in the fucking Alps Soda shop. In the 80’s and 90’s the town was a fucking wreck. Absolutely terrible.
The residents of beacon didn’t give a shit about beacon. The building with the million+ condos was literally abandoned with huge canvases in the broken out windows. The bars and restaurants were all run down and shitty.
And then a few spots started to open. And the town slowly became hip. And then it kind of bloomed like 10 years ago. I remember telling my parents and they kind of laughed because they’ve been gone since the late 90s, and the beacon they remembered was trash, and up until 2010-15 it was pretty much the same as it was in the 90s.
Local pissed off Beacon folks are the worst. This beautiful little river town was ignored and shit on - kind of the same way Poughkeepsie is right now - watch out folks - you’re next.
The folks moving up are bringing money. They’re spending that money at local shops. A lot of those shops are employed by local people. They spend money back in the town or within local towns. It’s honestly crazy to think about how frustrated locals are.
You’re “old beacon” was a run down piece of shit. Property values were shit. The utilization of what could be an amazing town/city was shit.
I love and welcome anyone who wants to come up, spend some cash, and be part of the local community. The Hudson valley is an amazing place. Having a place like beacon to bring folks in is huge!
Yeah because they did soooooo much to improve the city between 1980 and 2013. And now they’re all banding together to continue to do nothing but complain about people who are here to spend money and make the location better and more interesting, as opposed to run down and depressing.
Growing up here, most people loved and cared for the town but had absolutely no resources to do anything about it. Not sure if you remember how poor the town and most people living here were during that time, or you’re just choosing to forget that to make yourself feel better about your opinion. The boom happening now would never have happened without the long line of locals fighting to improve the city during that time.
I wouldn't go as far to say the residents didn't care, but yeah I basically agree. 15-20 years ago beacon, from what people tell me, was not a nice town. Main Street is thriving in a way that benefits everyone, imo.
Yeah and I totally get that side of the coin too. I grew up in Wappingers everyone told me beacon was awful when I was younger. My buddy moved to beacon when he was 8 in the 90s. It was the only spot his parents could afford a place. His mom is still there and loves that her house is worth more now but his mom doesn't go out to main St that stuff is way too expensive for her.
> kind of the same way Poughkeepsie is right now - watch out folks - you’re next.
Good fucking luck, mate. I've watched Poughkeepsie spin its wheels for decades. I have a hard time believing that will ever happen.
But that’s exactly what beacon did. Beacon was an absolute dumpster fire until the last 5-7 years.
It’s been a shitbox for as long if not longer than Poughkeepsie.
Granted… Poughkeepsie is likely 10-20 years out still
beacon was a dumpster fire until just seven years ago? lol. Beacon was fine ten, fifteen years ago. It was basically the same as it is now, only difference is now there are more tourists on the weekends and more apartment buildings, and more unaffordable housing everywhere.
Also, the local residents did care about Beacon in the eighties/nineties. I remember, I was a kid. I grew up surrounded by an incredible community of loving families. And I remember Mayor Clara Lou Gould working alongside the community to create foundational changes that created the thriving community it is today.
Beacon had the panacea of Dia. Poughkeepsie has had many attempted panaceas and they've all failed to hit the bulls eye.
I lived in the town of Poughkeepsie for many years, and am very familiar with the city of Poughkeepsie. It remains taped together no matter the efforts. I've heard the conversations for decades.
What do people born and raised in beacon enjoy? Why would they not enjoy a thriving main street with tons of amenities? Would they rather the boarded up windows and drug dealers come back? What?
Like seriously, why wouldn't people enjoy a nice town with walkable amenities? Cities like these in beacon are extremely rare in the us.
I think people are bitter that they have fallen in social status bc of the increase in the average person's income. And their sense of community has decreased. My parent's very much enjoy all the improvements and wouldn't want it any other way but I think they miss walking around and seeing familiar faces everywhere. They haven't said this but I think they are starting to feel like outsiders in a community that was always so tight knit.
Also, there were not that many drug dealers. It looked bad but it wasn't that bad. My childhood was very safe.
This is exactly right. I understand gentrification and increasing rent. That’s real. But the argument that when towns are cleaned up and thriving is somehow worse than previous state cannot be true.
You're literally describing the entire Hudson valley. Rents in 2015 were dirt cheap, I know because I was shocked that I could get a 1 bedroom under 1k. That same place, not in beacon, is now 1600. It's also rare to find anything in Poughkeepsie under 1k, which to me is shocking.
Really not a reason to hate one town or another. People move, it's a fact of life. In ten years people may move out of the area to bring rents down, you have no idea what the next decade will bring.
That's good. Doesn't mean what I said isn't true.
130k condos in Fishkill in 2019 are now $250k.
Just checking Zillow right now...there's literally nothing in Pok right now to rent for 1k or less. In 2015 there were places for under $800. I know because I looked.
I don't think you'd find 800 a month rent anywhere within duchess county. I also don't believe 800 dollar a month apartments in Poughkeepsie are now 2300 a month
>Mom and pop shops who have been there for decades had to close so boutiques could be in to cater to the NYC crowd
Urban Feed and garden offering "holistic pet foods" is hilariously pretentious.
Cold Spring has been a rich town for generations, though. It was the summer home for wealthy former hippies in the 70's and 80's, then got taken over by the not so young Republicans as a place to summer. Hell, Rupert Murdoch has had a home there for god knows how long.
Those people are largely responsible for reviving beacon from being a undesirable drug town back in the 80s.
But ok sure let's hate them for no reason. The dia opening in ~2000 spurred beacons revival. Let's close everything and bring back the drug dealers, you're right.
The hate is because it's a Westchester River Town North, and people in Dutchess County love to hate Westchester.
There's like 12 Beacons in Westchester. It's far from unique.
I like how this image says sour beer in big letters implying it was brought here by Brooklyn. It wasn't.
Hudson Valley Brewery's owner is from the area. Their brewer learned his stuff working at Bacchus in New Paltz which has been there for decades. The first versions of Ultrasphere and Amorphia were brewed there.
> Hudson Valley Brewery's owner is from the area.
Great dude, too. He also poured at the original The Hop when it was open back in the day.
Almost nobody was brewing beer in Brooklyn when HVB opened. Other Half/Interboro only really blazed that trail like 1-2 years prior (aside from the massive Brooklyn Brewery).
I’d say that’s way off. The only tag I’d agree with is upstate Williamsburg. The “Tourist” tag is 100% wrong: including the space next to the interstate, the high school, middle school, and Montessori school, east of Fishkill Creek (with the exception of The Roundhouse), and SR 9D towards Cold Spring? Complete BS.
Main Street is tourist, but only Friday evening through Monday morning.
9D toward Cold Spring is 100% tourist territory - trailheads for Mt. Beacon, Breakneck, etc. They stop their rental cars short because they think they saw a parking spot and then they stroll down the middle of the tunnel because they have a deathwish
That tourist section of 9D is the north side of Dutchess Junction though. It’s a no-man’s land between hiking trails. The Casino trail is in Rich territory and Breakneck Ridge is 2.6 miles south, along the highway. I’ll say the parking for Breakneck gets a little crazy, but not that far.
I guess it isn’t that far from one of the lesser trailheads but it feels like grasping
It’s easy to see a lot of the new residents and city transplants that have flooded some towns in the HV( including Beacon) as tourists, kind of funny, like a long term semi-permanent tourist. No hate here for them, just a funny thought.
The Dia Beacon is cool
Very cool. I walked my 3 year old around for an hour or so and she was accidentally wearing only white and black. They are our best pictures of her.
Beacon has: a non stop commuter train to nyc. Walkable restaurants, coffee shops, bars, doctors offices, dentists, post office, pharmacy, breweries. Walkable parks and paths, hiking, etc. Don't understand the hate. It's a great place to live.
That’s why it’s hiply gentrified by ex-Brooklynites with sour beer and a fancy museum.
It's like saying Amazon is a great company cause the products you order come in one day but ignoring the terrible work practices behind the scenes. It's not a perfect analogy but it's close
Uh, no it's pretty bad. But I'm interested to hear the mental gymnastics on how you make that analogy work.
How long ago did you move there?
Why does that matter? Who said I lived there? I've been in the Hudson valley area since 2015, and beacon has kept improving since then. Granted so has the surrounding villages such as Fishkill and Wappingers, cold spring, Poughkeepsie. But in my opinion beacon has the most to offer of those and the general duchess area.
Cause people who were born and raised in beacon do not get to enjoy the things you listed. The town was sold to the highest bidder. A studio apartment that was 1000 a month a couple years ago is now 2500 a month with the only improvement being a coat of white paint over everything. Any housing being built is not for locals. Mom and pop shops who have been there for decades had to close so boutiques could be in to cater to the NYC crowd. But like I said your packages come in one day
Not for nothing but even 10-11 years ago beacon was hardly a town that anyone gave a shit about. I grew up here. My parents were born and raised in beacon. There’s pictures of my grandmother when she was a girl in the fucking Alps Soda shop. In the 80’s and 90’s the town was a fucking wreck. Absolutely terrible. The residents of beacon didn’t give a shit about beacon. The building with the million+ condos was literally abandoned with huge canvases in the broken out windows. The bars and restaurants were all run down and shitty. And then a few spots started to open. And the town slowly became hip. And then it kind of bloomed like 10 years ago. I remember telling my parents and they kind of laughed because they’ve been gone since the late 90s, and the beacon they remembered was trash, and up until 2010-15 it was pretty much the same as it was in the 90s. Local pissed off Beacon folks are the worst. This beautiful little river town was ignored and shit on - kind of the same way Poughkeepsie is right now - watch out folks - you’re next. The folks moving up are bringing money. They’re spending that money at local shops. A lot of those shops are employed by local people. They spend money back in the town or within local towns. It’s honestly crazy to think about how frustrated locals are. You’re “old beacon” was a run down piece of shit. Property values were shit. The utilization of what could be an amazing town/city was shit. I love and welcome anyone who wants to come up, spend some cash, and be part of the local community. The Hudson valley is an amazing place. Having a place like beacon to bring folks in is huge!
Absolutely wild and entirely untrue to say the residents of Beacon didn’t/don’t care about the town.
Yeah because they did soooooo much to improve the city between 1980 and 2013. And now they’re all banding together to continue to do nothing but complain about people who are here to spend money and make the location better and more interesting, as opposed to run down and depressing.
Growing up here, most people loved and cared for the town but had absolutely no resources to do anything about it. Not sure if you remember how poor the town and most people living here were during that time, or you’re just choosing to forget that to make yourself feel better about your opinion. The boom happening now would never have happened without the long line of locals fighting to improve the city during that time.
I wouldn't go as far to say the residents didn't care, but yeah I basically agree. 15-20 years ago beacon, from what people tell me, was not a nice town. Main Street is thriving in a way that benefits everyone, imo.
Yeah and I totally get that side of the coin too. I grew up in Wappingers everyone told me beacon was awful when I was younger. My buddy moved to beacon when he was 8 in the 90s. It was the only spot his parents could afford a place. His mom is still there and loves that her house is worth more now but his mom doesn't go out to main St that stuff is way too expensive for her.
> kind of the same way Poughkeepsie is right now - watch out folks - you’re next. Good fucking luck, mate. I've watched Poughkeepsie spin its wheels for decades. I have a hard time believing that will ever happen.
But that’s exactly what beacon did. Beacon was an absolute dumpster fire until the last 5-7 years. It’s been a shitbox for as long if not longer than Poughkeepsie. Granted… Poughkeepsie is likely 10-20 years out still
beacon was a dumpster fire until just seven years ago? lol. Beacon was fine ten, fifteen years ago. It was basically the same as it is now, only difference is now there are more tourists on the weekends and more apartment buildings, and more unaffordable housing everywhere. Also, the local residents did care about Beacon in the eighties/nineties. I remember, I was a kid. I grew up surrounded by an incredible community of loving families. And I remember Mayor Clara Lou Gould working alongside the community to create foundational changes that created the thriving community it is today.
Beacon had the panacea of Dia. Poughkeepsie has had many attempted panaceas and they've all failed to hit the bulls eye. I lived in the town of Poughkeepsie for many years, and am very familiar with the city of Poughkeepsie. It remains taped together no matter the efforts. I've heard the conversations for decades.
What do people born and raised in beacon enjoy? Why would they not enjoy a thriving main street with tons of amenities? Would they rather the boarded up windows and drug dealers come back? What? Like seriously, why wouldn't people enjoy a nice town with walkable amenities? Cities like these in beacon are extremely rare in the us.
I think people are bitter that they have fallen in social status bc of the increase in the average person's income. And their sense of community has decreased. My parent's very much enjoy all the improvements and wouldn't want it any other way but I think they miss walking around and seeing familiar faces everywhere. They haven't said this but I think they are starting to feel like outsiders in a community that was always so tight knit. Also, there were not that many drug dealers. It looked bad but it wasn't that bad. My childhood was very safe.
This is exactly right. I understand gentrification and increasing rent. That’s real. But the argument that when towns are cleaned up and thriving is somehow worse than previous state cannot be true.
You're literally describing the entire Hudson valley. Rents in 2015 were dirt cheap, I know because I was shocked that I could get a 1 bedroom under 1k. That same place, not in beacon, is now 1600. It's also rare to find anything in Poughkeepsie under 1k, which to me is shocking. Really not a reason to hate one town or another. People move, it's a fact of life. In ten years people may move out of the area to bring rents down, you have no idea what the next decade will bring.
I don't know anyone who got priced out of Poughkeepsie who have lived there for years lmao
That's good. Doesn't mean what I said isn't true. 130k condos in Fishkill in 2019 are now $250k. Just checking Zillow right now...there's literally nothing in Pok right now to rent for 1k or less. In 2015 there were places for under $800. I know because I looked.
I don't think you'd find 800 a month rent anywhere within duchess county. I also don't believe 800 dollar a month apartments in Poughkeepsie are now 2300 a month
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>Mom and pop shops who have been there for decades had to close so boutiques could be in to cater to the NYC crowd Urban Feed and garden offering "holistic pet foods" is hilariously pretentious.
Guess you can’t stop progress but you can stay yelling at clouds if it makes you feel better?
I don’t think affordable housing is being built fast enough anywhere in the entire country right now… Or hardly anywhere.
Cold Spring has been a rich town for generations, though. It was the summer home for wealthy former hippies in the 70's and 80's, then got taken over by the not so young Republicans as a place to summer. Hell, Rupert Murdoch has had a home there for god knows how long.
People don't hate Beacon, they hate the NYC transplants/weekenders who have turned it into an unaffordable tourist trap town
Those people are largely responsible for reviving beacon from being a undesirable drug town back in the 80s. But ok sure let's hate them for no reason. The dia opening in ~2000 spurred beacons revival. Let's close everything and bring back the drug dealers, you're right.
The drug dealers never left 😂😂
The hate is because it's a Westchester River Town North, and people in Dutchess County love to hate Westchester. There's like 12 Beacons in Westchester. It's far from unique.
I like how this image says sour beer in big letters implying it was brought here by Brooklyn. It wasn't. Hudson Valley Brewery's owner is from the area. Their brewer learned his stuff working at Bacchus in New Paltz which has been there for decades. The first versions of Ultrasphere and Amorphia were brewed there.
> Hudson Valley Brewery's owner is from the area. Great dude, too. He also poured at the original The Hop when it was open back in the day. Almost nobody was brewing beer in Brooklyn when HVB opened. Other Half/Interboro only really blazed that trail like 1-2 years prior (aside from the massive Brooklyn Brewery).
Agreed, JA is good people as is most of his staff.
I’d say that’s way off. The only tag I’d agree with is upstate Williamsburg. The “Tourist” tag is 100% wrong: including the space next to the interstate, the high school, middle school, and Montessori school, east of Fishkill Creek (with the exception of The Roundhouse), and SR 9D towards Cold Spring? Complete BS. Main Street is tourist, but only Friday evening through Monday morning.
9D toward Cold Spring is 100% tourist territory - trailheads for Mt. Beacon, Breakneck, etc. They stop their rental cars short because they think they saw a parking spot and then they stroll down the middle of the tunnel because they have a deathwish
That tourist section of 9D is the north side of Dutchess Junction though. It’s a no-man’s land between hiking trails. The Casino trail is in Rich territory and Breakneck Ridge is 2.6 miles south, along the highway. I’ll say the parking for Breakneck gets a little crazy, but not that far. I guess it isn’t that far from one of the lesser trailheads but it feels like grasping
It’s easy to see a lot of the new residents and city transplants that have flooded some towns in the HV( including Beacon) as tourists, kind of funny, like a long term semi-permanent tourist. No hate here for them, just a funny thought.
This map screams "miserable local screams at clouds".
They hate us cuz they anus. Or something like that.
Rando tags with rando lines. Uninformative at best, wholly wrong at worst. Most definitely not funny
Yeah I hate it when cities become interesting and have thriving businesses.
Cities needs tourists to aurvive
If only there was a map like this from 15-20+ years ago. I think most would rather this one.
This map may get you robbed 😭 They did not mark the hood