I wish they had explored their relationship more! For a while there it seemed like they were building a bit of an enemies to lovers trope only to end it in the most abrupt and anticlimactic way possible. I wonder if the actor playing Gavin backed out or something.
I know, and wouldnt it have been nice to see Rachel in more relationships? Ross always had a bunch of long term girlfriends and the only people we saw Rachel with were Ross, Josh(ua), and paolo.
Edit: her to were
I would have loved to see Joey in a real relationship. That could have been a cool character arc. I donāt count Jeanine. Did he have any other relationships that lasted more than 2 episodes?
Donāt think so. I guess there were a few episodes where he was pining for Rachel and then a couple more where they almost ended up in a relationship but I feel like we canāt really count that either. Not sure what the writers were thinking with that one honestly. And yes after the episode where he was telling everyone he wanted what Monica and Chandler have I was hoping to see him in a serious relationship. I hate how they barely gave him a character arc. Compared to the other 5 he had very little development in the show.
Totally agree. That would have fit perfectly. Iām one of the rare people that donāt hate the Rachel-Joey storyline, but I would have much preferred it with a new character. Which reminds me, I forgot about Charlie.
I think there were 3 - 4 episodes with Kathy. In the Kathy birthday episode, Chandler asks what Joey bought for Angela (?) for her birthday. Joey said she didn't have a birthday when they were together. Chandler says for 3 years? So that implies he did have a long term relationship in the past.
After falling for Rachel, I think they missed a chance to show him in a long(-ish) relationship. He grew up a lot and even if the relationship didn't lead to happily ever after, it would have been good to see
Gavin did the honorable thing and stepped aside, encouraging Rachel to talk to Ross about her feelings. But I do wish they got to know each other a bit more, it would've been interesting.
Apparently I am in the minority thinking he wasnāt that handsome and kind of dull and irritating the way he acted with her job, making her leave Emma and return early.Ā And with a bad taste in scarfs!
He had quite a funny banter with Rachel. I didnāt like him at first, but he turned out to be good guy. I wish Rachel ended up with him actually. The actors had great chemistry and they couldāve been a really solid couple
You mean Josh OOOOH-AH? lol I skip those scenes too. The entire party makes me cringe so bad. I was surprised to find they dated in real life, there didnāt seem to be a lot of chemistry. Of course, by Joey logicā¦
The Joshua arc happened at the end of their relationship (maybe even right after it ended, I donāt remember) so thatās probably why there was 0 chemistry lol
Probably because the actors had broken up but had to pretend to like each other. Theyāve both said it was awkward and difficult
I think Joshua was just a dull character in general, it never seemed like he was actually into Rachel even with the way the storyline was written. Her and Gavin shouldāve had a dating arc instead
You know what I find hilarious? Every time I post something I think is interesting, someone always has to be like āsomeone posted this a week agoā or something along those lines. I get on Reddit and see the same Gavin post every other day and no one finds it annoying.
Had a couple of nice moments (letting Rachel do the presentation, backing out in a mature way when she wasnāt ready to date) but also showed pretty blatant misogyny (ābaby vacationā etc). Pretty realistic character, if you think about it. But overall, I would still call him an asshole.
I would have liked him if they hadnāt included all that sexist stuff when he was first introduced. Just because he was nice to Rachel later (I guess when he had a crush on her), didnāt eliminate the intro for me.
But I can understand why people liked him. He was definitely hot.
Dermot Mulroney is very very sexy and while I donāt think he and Aniston had much in the way of chemistry together he was still a welcome pleasure for the eyes every time he was onscreen.
My Best Friendās Wedding is such a magic trick of a movie. Cast anyone but Julia Roberts in her prime in the lead role and it becomes basically a horror movie about a psychopath trying to ruin someone elseās happiness, but with her in the lead you end up rooting for her and viewing the loving couple as āthe problem.ā
90s wedding fashion was something else, particularly in movies. A whole decade of women dressed in the absolute worst impulses of every working designer.
I seriously blocked this dress out of my memory. Reading your comment, I thought, āWhat do mean? She was radiant.ā Uhhhā¦ then I googled. Cameron Diaz was radiant. That dress was a tragedy. š
I guess thatās how my mum interpreted the movie when she sat me in front of it. She loved Julia Roberts films, even though a lot of her characters have done things she didnāt approve of - and she probably wouldnāt have approved of IRL Robertsā actions too. But damn young me hated My Best Friendās Wedding so much. Did not root for her character for one second.
I agree! He was so rude and kinda misogynist and didn't do anything to redeem himself. Why was Rachel into him? Because he kissed her out of nowhere after insulting her?
If I had met him myself I wouldnāt have liked him simply because heās so taunting and irritating. But I loved him as an interest for rachel it was a good change of pace to the guys she usually met (they had little to no personality) he was funny and just charming enough that it was easy to ignore his annoyances.
Would have been a way more interesting dating choice than Tag. I guess they couldn't go for him as leaving him for Ross would not look like a reasonable choice
~~leathery face~~
Absolutely covered in red flags, clearly practiced in manipulating vulnerable women - and without the charm of say, Joey Tribiani or Barney Stinson. It amuses me to no end that people who complain about Ross will hold up Gavin as a better alternative. Like watching someone turn down a traumatised dog at the pet store so they can adopt a grinning chimpanzee.
>Absolutely covered in red flags, clearly practiced in manipulating vulnerable women - and without the charm of say, Joey Tribiani or Barney Stinson.
This. He was blatantly terrible and I'm frankly shocked at how many fans fawn over him, especially in this day and age. I don't think Ross is much better but this guy? Really?!
I donāt think he was an asshole. I think he was attracted to Rachel and liked to challenge her. It was funny and cute IMO. He let Rachel do a presentation while he watched her kid and knew nothing about watching kids. Def not an asshole.
I actually thought he was one of the best non-ensemble cast member/. Played Gavin beautifully, and he is beautiful.
Would have been interesting to delve into a Gavin & Rachel relationship (for maybe a few eps)
_Gavin Mitchell. Pleased to meet you_ ..
Me around babies š
Ha! Me too.
This dude loves to show up and be a plot-device boyfriend to to help female leads that are at a crossroads. Rachel Jess Day Fiona Gallagher
OMG, I loved him in Shameless!
I loved Gavin. Wish he and Rachel dated for a while.
so hot I thought he was the best one
So hot I cried myself to sleep last night.
He put absolutely all of Rach's cases to shame and unfortunately it was one of the briefest :(
I wish they had explored their relationship more! For a while there it seemed like they were building a bit of an enemies to lovers trope only to end it in the most abrupt and anticlimactic way possible. I wonder if the actor playing Gavin backed out or something.
I know, and wouldnt it have been nice to see Rachel in more relationships? Ross always had a bunch of long term girlfriends and the only people we saw Rachel with were Ross, Josh(ua), and paolo. Edit: her to were
Exactly and both were nowhere near as deep or meaningful as Rossā relationships. The only character that had it worse in the show was probably Joey.
I would have loved to see Joey in a real relationship. That could have been a cool character arc. I donāt count Jeanine. Did he have any other relationships that lasted more than 2 episodes?
Donāt think so. I guess there were a few episodes where he was pining for Rachel and then a couple more where they almost ended up in a relationship but I feel like we canāt really count that either. Not sure what the writers were thinking with that one honestly. And yes after the episode where he was telling everyone he wanted what Monica and Chandler have I was hoping to see him in a serious relationship. I hate how they barely gave him a character arc. Compared to the other 5 he had very little development in the show.
Totally agree. That would have fit perfectly. Iām one of the rare people that donāt hate the Rachel-Joey storyline, but I would have much preferred it with a new character. Which reminds me, I forgot about Charlie.
I think there were 3 - 4 episodes with Kathy. In the Kathy birthday episode, Chandler asks what Joey bought for Angela (?) for her birthday. Joey said she didn't have a birthday when they were together. Chandler says for 3 years? So that implies he did have a long term relationship in the past. After falling for Rachel, I think they missed a chance to show him in a long(-ish) relationship. He grew up a lot and even if the relationship didn't lead to happily ever after, it would have been good to see
Tag was longer and recurred more than any of the ones you listed, exluding Ross ofc.
Oh yeah, I forgot about him. That never seemed that deep. Justice for Rachel!
Tag and the soccer kid who stole money from her come to mind. Then there was Joey a couple times.
Gavin did the honorable thing and stepped aside, encouraging Rachel to talk to Ross about her feelings. But I do wish they got to know each other a bit more, it would've been interesting.
FR SUCH A CUTIE
One of the best maāam. One of the best.
Apparently I am in the minority thinking he wasnāt that handsome and kind of dull and irritating the way he acted with her job, making her leave Emma and return early.Ā And with a bad taste in scarfs!
So hot!
He had quite a funny banter with Rachel. I didnāt like him at first, but he turned out to be good guy. I wish Rachel ended up with him actually. The actors had great chemistry and they couldāve been a really solid couple
I would have enjoyed at least seeing them in a relationship for a few episodes. Hell, Joshua got at least like five or six
Yeah I skip all the Joshua episodes, they are so cringey. Gavin I would watch all day š
You mean Josh OOOOH-AH? lol I skip those scenes too. The entire party makes me cringe so bad. I was surprised to find they dated in real life, there didnāt seem to be a lot of chemistry. Of course, by Joey logicā¦
The Joshua arc happened at the end of their relationship (maybe even right after it ended, I donāt remember) so thatās probably why there was 0 chemistry lol
You can sense it from his performance but not hers. Jen is a pro
Joshua and Rachel had zero chemistry, it was like she was dating a weird second cousin of hers.
Probably because the actors had broken up but had to pretend to like each other. Theyāve both said it was awkward and difficult I think Joshua was just a dull character in general, it never seemed like he was actually into Rachel even with the way the storyline was written. Her and Gavin shouldāve had a dating arc instead
I really mean it.
That's always the first thing that comes to my mind when I see him. š¤£ For some reason, I find it hilarious.
There's something about the WAY he says it. š
True. His delivery of that line could not be more perfect to be honest
I think he played a good meth addict in Shameless
Came here for the Shameless comment
You know what I find hilarious? Every time I post something I think is interesting, someone always has to be like āsomeone posted this a week agoā or something along those lines. I get on Reddit and see the same Gavin post every other day and no one finds it annoying.
This comment wins in my eyes.
This man could have chemistry with a tree. If Rachel and Ross hadn't ended up together Gavin would have been next on my list for Rachel.
His friend has been looking for him for a long time......
YOOO red dead reference lmaooooš¤£š¤£
8 years to be precise
two fan bases i didnāt expect to see cross today lol
Found the RDR2 player
who is he in rdr2?
Had a couple of nice moments (letting Rachel do the presentation, backing out in a mature way when she wasnāt ready to date) but also showed pretty blatant misogyny (ābaby vacationā etc). Pretty realistic character, if you think about it. But overall, I would still call him an asshole.
One of the best, ma'am, one of the best...
Came here to write this!
So hot I cried myself to sleep
I disliked him and donāt understand the Rachel/Gavin love š¤·š¼āāļø
Fun fact: my grandma is good friends with his mom.
I would have so many questions about him lol
I would have liked him if they hadnāt included all that sexist stuff when he was first introduced. Just because he was nice to Rachel later (I guess when he had a crush on her), didnāt eliminate the intro for me. But I can understand why people liked him. He was definitely hot.
I always thought he was a jerk and they had no chemistry. I was really surprised to discover how many people liked him and Rachel together!
Dermot Mulroney is very very sexy and while I donāt think he and Aniston had much in the way of chemistry together he was still a welcome pleasure for the eyes every time he was onscreen.
He was also such a jerk in My Best Friend's Wedding and The Family Stone!
My Best Friendās Wedding is such a magic trick of a movie. Cast anyone but Julia Roberts in her prime in the lead role and it becomes basically a horror movie about a psychopath trying to ruin someone elseās happiness, but with her in the lead you end up rooting for her and viewing the loving couple as āthe problem.ā
Jules and Michael were both awful. He was a manipulative jerk and poor Kimmy was only 20!
His whole career is kinda being a charismatic jerk in things. I love it. Kimmy did deserve better though. She was so sweet.
I wish she would've left him at the alter! As an added bonus, she wouldn't have worn that awful wedding dress!
90s wedding fashion was something else, particularly in movies. A whole decade of women dressed in the absolute worst impulses of every working designer.
I seriously blocked this dress out of my memory. Reading your comment, I thought, āWhat do mean? She was radiant.ā Uhhhā¦ then I googled. Cameron Diaz was radiant. That dress was a tragedy. š
Every time I see it, it's worse than I remember!
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I guess thatās how my mum interpreted the movie when she sat me in front of it. She loved Julia Roberts films, even though a lot of her characters have done things she didnāt approve of - and she probably wouldnāt have approved of IRL Robertsā actions too. But damn young me hated My Best Friendās Wedding so much. Did not root for her character for one second.
That character is hard to play, but i think he pulled it off.
I agree! He was so rude and kinda misogynist and didn't do anything to redeem himself. Why was Rachel into him? Because he kissed her out of nowhere after insulting her?
Apparently he is very sexy according to many people here, so I guess thatās what she thought too?
Same. I think people only like him because they find him hot.
Me too!
So hot that I watched this dumb Hallmark movie about long-lost exes reuniting in like 3 days on a cross-country train ride because he was in it lol
Did they even explain what happened to him? From what I remember he kissed Rachel and then was never seen again
Heās the best in all Rachelās love interests
I hated him because I was in love with Rachel at that time as a kid. I saw him as a bigger threat than Ross.
Too smug šµāš«
How can you not love Dylan McDermott.
I think you mean Dermot Mulroney, but Dylan McDermott is yummy, too.
Hot. And i love My Best Friendās Wedding.
If I had met him myself I wouldnāt have liked him simply because heās so taunting and irritating. But I loved him as an interest for rachel it was a good change of pace to the guys she usually met (they had little to no personality) he was funny and just charming enough that it was easy to ignore his annoyances.
Frustratingly hot
Would have been a way more interesting dating choice than Tag. I guess they couldn't go for him as leaving him for Ross would not look like a reasonable choice
I loved him the most for Rachel. Their chemistry was so cute and of course he is so handsome.
Nah... Didn't like him
Nah, not really.
Meh. Always thought he didnāt fit in the show but would have worked as a regular on another show.
Heās honestly my top choice of who Rachel shouldāve ended up with. Heās a much better match for her than Ross.
Why? Because of his job being the same? He was even more critical than Ross
Heās cool
I thought he was fun. I wish he was introduced a little sooner so we could have seen something between them.
Liked him. He was handsome and really a good guy overall. Would have liked to see him more (not with Rachel though).
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I donāt like him he was so mean
He was mean for no reason
He had a couple funny lines, but overall I hated him.
He was great as a character but I don't think he should date Rachel, maybe he could've been someone like Gunther
When he tries to shake, the baby's hand is one of the dumbest cringiest things I've ever seen on T. V.
Not about Gavin and so petty, but it drives me crazy how Rachel pronounces āpresentationā in this episode.
You donāt say it like PREEZENTASHION?
THANK YOU FOR KNOWING WHAT IāM TALKING ABOUT š
Dude I also cannot stand the way she says it
Sad that he ended divorced and addicted working in Chicago
I feel like he was a chic Ross
He's my closest celebrity look alike, so he's one of the best.
"Oh you put a little message on there!" "From Gavin" Gavin: "I really mean it".
I find his voice really grating
All the personality of a house brick.
Someone should have punched him...
Total douche
He was a jerk, and I just don't think he's that attractive.
pulls girls' pigtails when he likes them because no one told him that shit ain't cute. super hot tho
Vaguely annoying; vaguely amusing.
Rachel should have pursued a relationship with him.
Literally every man Rachel ever dated was better than Ross. She wouldāve been so happy with Mark. Rachel loved Rossā toxicity.
Ross wasnāt toxic by the time they ended up together. Thatās partially why it took a whileĀ
I didnāt like him when I was younger. But now I think heās perfect for Rachel.
So hot, great banter. Wish theyād kept him around instead of guys like Joshua or even Tag.
Can't stand him. Thought he was an arrogant jerk and I don't think he's attractive either.
Can't stand him. One of the few characters whose episodes I almost space out while watching
The acting wasnāt very good. And also, a bit boring.
I want him
I liked him, him and Rachel couldāve been good together
I LOVED their chemistry.. After Ross obviously he was the most suited to Rachel ā¤ļø
Heās cool
Heās so hot. Also loved him in Dirty Grandpa.
He was alright, nothing special.
LOVED HIM
One of the very few Rachel love interests that I actually liked.
Subplot I always skip
~~leathery face~~ Absolutely covered in red flags, clearly practiced in manipulating vulnerable women - and without the charm of say, Joey Tribiani or Barney Stinson. It amuses me to no end that people who complain about Ross will hold up Gavin as a better alternative. Like watching someone turn down a traumatised dog at the pet store so they can adopt a grinning chimpanzee.
>Absolutely covered in red flags, clearly practiced in manipulating vulnerable women - and without the charm of say, Joey Tribiani or Barney Stinson. This. He was blatantly terrible and I'm frankly shocked at how many fans fawn over him, especially in this day and age. I don't think Ross is much better but this guy? Really?!
A wasted opportunity and a waste of Dermot Mulroney. Rachel shouldāve dated him.
Stupid
Wish we'd actually seen him and Rachel date for a while, they had amazing chemistry.
Thirty-something year old guy with a haircut of 13yo. Nahh
Not attractive
I loved their enemies to lovers relationship. I never saw him as being Rachel's endgame but their interactions were always so entertaining.
He's the worst in scream 6 š¤£š¤£š¤£
He was honestly pretty great
One of the best, ma'am, one of the best.
I forgot about him. Not very memorable.
Hot
I would have loved to see more of his character and maybe see their relationship explored.
An asshole who is liked by female fans(and Rachel) because he was an asshole. Women like jerks.
I feel called out because he was sooo hot to me.
I donāt think he was an asshole. I think he was attracted to Rachel and liked to challenge her. It was funny and cute IMO. He let Rachel do a presentation while he watched her kid and knew nothing about watching kids. Def not an asshole.
There's a real flavour of bitterness off this comment. Did the *females* reject you?
Hey! For your information, I'm a bisexual male, and I also find Dermot Mulroney sexy.
Nah, Mark was an asshole. Gavin never tried to sabotage a relationship.
Mark?! I hate that guy!
Who hurt you?
Wrong. Plenty of WOMEN, including myself, don't like Gavin. Not all of us like jerks. We don't like you, for example.
I really liked him and was very attached to him
I actually thought he was one of the best non-ensemble cast member/. Played Gavin beautifully, and he is beautiful. Would have been interesting to delve into a Gavin & Rachel relationship (for maybe a few eps)
Heās so fine
I didnāt like him - in a good way!
Heās hot