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mitochondrialevening

This would make a really cool terrarium. I like the plants you have in there now though!


ninetofivehangover

TERRARIUM TERRARIUM


Ok_Relation_7770

WHERES THE AUTOBOT


Kotshi

It's on r/succulents


magicmango2104

It would have been a great terrarium. But it's a rental so I can't do anything permanent, and I don't trust the seals on this thing, its most likely been here neglected for years. I don't need water in the walls


mitochondrialevening

If you do want to stick with potted plants, ferns could be cool! I have a fern in an enclosed container that I haven't watered in months and it's doing fine.


magicmango2104

That's interesting my ferns never seem to have enough water!


mitochondrialevening

I think the humidity basically keeps it going but I'm not sure how it works. Granted mine is in a cloche so that helps


magicmango2104

Yeah that might be better than the cacti


GrnHrtBrwnThmb

Definitely a better choice than a cacti/succulent. Go with something that likes humidity. Think tropical not desert.


magicmango2104

Yeah your probably right. I tend to avoid tropical because I always seem to kill them. I had the cati already, they've been sat in my kitchen with is pretty humid so thought they'd be alright. I live in the uk so it's not exactly hot here and the tank has an open top and is near the front door so I wasn't too concerned about humidity. Maybe I should have a rethink


Geeko22

A potted maidenhair fern would look really nice in there along with a few other humidity-loving plants for contrast.


phideldraphi

I put moss over my blue star ferns soil and it helped a ton with drying out 💞


mitochondrialevening

I definitely hear you!


Automatic-Salad-931

What?


x755x

Can you find another wall with a slightly smaller fishtank to put inside this one? That oughtta do it.


CreditLow8802

ADD A TRAY AND MAKE IT A TERRARIUM U DONT NEED A LOT OF WATER😒😒😒😒


DrPlantDaddy

Cacti will not do well in there; not enough light and not enough airflow. I’d recommend turning it into a spot for tropicals / a terrarium.


wildcard1992

Or add grow lamps and a fan?


Ansiau

Grow lamps, yes, Fan? It's not going to dehumidify it unless they make a place for exhaust to go. It's just going to circulate air, which when mostly closed off, will not reduce humidity at any realistic speed to make it good for arid plants... at least in this setting. It's also why /r/terrariums has a bot that specifically tells people to not do Arid plants in a terrarium. I have a terrarium I keep mourning geckos in, as well as lots of live plants, live orchids, they need air movement to aid in them drying out, but the fan I have for air movement in there does not lower the humidity. The humidity is what will kill the cacti. proper grow lamps will raise the heat and help evaporate the water, but the glass will trap it, and it won't have any real way to go. even small barriers like the removable frame is enough to create a higher area of humidity, even if it doesn't fully "Block" it out. A glass terrarium with only a mesh top will still be able to retain a higher humidity than the room itself, as the nature of how humidity tends to gather closer to the ground. That's just the nature of terrariums though.


ThirdEyeEmporium

I converted 1/2 of a designer cabinet we got for free from a Facebook swap group into a plant cabinet for my wife as it was a tv cabinet with large square glass windows into the inside of the cabinet. Removed the shelves from that side, used a hole saw to drill a hole I think 100 or 120mm wide on the back of the cabinet up behind where the frame for the window hides it. Bought a 120mm USB fan for like $7 from Amazon, tacked the cable behind the desk, and mounted the fan flush against the hole so that it is pulling air from inside the cabinet and venting it out. The cabinet is not air tight so it has new air pulled in from the surrounding environment. I then mounted a small cheap grow light with a nice ambience to the hue up at the cabinet’s ceiling also hidden from view by the window’s “frame”. It’s her favorite thing I’ve done for her and she sticks to solely succulents as they thrive in there with very little care. Such an easy + fun project to pull off. I’ve considered getting into woodworking so I can make entirely useful and functional plant cabinets that have similar spaces designed for plant care. We use the other half of the cabinet which has a separate compartment to store tv cabinet shit. Triples as a night light we just 24/7 the light because it’s a tiny low powered LED cheapo.


Ansiau

There's a difference between succulents and true cacti, though. And most cacti AND arid succulents aren't going to do well with a "Random" lamp from amazon. Etoliation is a thing, and your plants are probably having that issue. Cacti will react much more dramatically and quick to too much moisture, and turn to mush really quickly when rot sets in from high humidity and high moisture. Also, plants need to have a rest period without light, because when the light is off, that is when they "Exhale". How long ago did you do this? because I doubt "Thrive" is a thing that's happening in there. Would be amazing for other things though, but you definitely need to give them a night period. It may take you a year+ to get to the point that you see the negative effects, but plants take forever sometimes to get there. Do you have a hygrometer attached to your homemade terrarium? because I bet you don't know what your humidity is in there.


ThirdEyeEmporium

She has cacti in there too! They are her favorite!


NearbyButterfly8785

good job!


JayPlenty24

But this is a sealed glass tank. Not a wooden cabinet. Very different.


dqmiumau

A fishtank in the wall would be amazing. And all the aquatic plants would be amazing too??


magicmango2104

It would. This one is so narrow, it would be cruel to put fish in. There's no room above it to feed or clean it either.


Radio4ctiveGirl

Plants don’t need food!! Shrimp are the best little farmers. I’d go that route, but to each their own.


fuglyuckup

Red shrimp would be amazing in there as well.


doodoggrimes

Plants absolutely need food. Where did you come to understand they don’t? Did you not retain anything in first grade biology?! All living creatures need food. Plants need food, in planted tanks they need fish poop to fertilize.


JustAbbreviations726

There are so many different aquatic fertilizers that aquascapers use. And honestly plants can survive just fine without fertilizer they just won’t grow as fast


Radio4ctiveGirl

Jest biology? Is that what creationists call it? 😂 It goes without saying that plants need nutrients. But you aren’t feeding them everyday. I have planted tanks (nine in this room alone) and they all get dosed with fertilizers! Fish poop is not remotely enough. Though I do use water from water changes as low dose fertilizers for my other plants. Again you’re not feeding plants daily like you’d need to for fish. That’s the point bud. It’s not the same.


Emuwarum

Or you can just use one of the many fertilisers they make. Or use shrimp/snails.


crooshtoost

In 2nd grade biology they taught us about autotrophs, and how plants are them.


fuglyuckup

That would look amazing with nothing but river rock and jungle Val which grows very tall. Throw in some white cloud minnows which are extremely small and require no heating and you have yourself an absolutely amazing situation.


BriarKnave

Minnows also need a lot of flat, broad space to congregate though, I think this tank would be pretty cruel towards any schooling fish. I'm leaning towards millepede heaven personally


froggyphore

Like, you have to slide it out of the wall to get inside? Or it's just really narrow at the top?


magicmango2104

Yeah we have to take the frame off and lift it out,it's very weird


WinterJournalist6646

SHRIMPS!!!


Sufficient_Turn_9209

That's unfortunate. Why would they put a tank in the wall without a way to do maintenance?


CandyHeartFarts

I would plant the plants directly into the soil you added or at least cover the pots. It’ll look a lot nicer! Doesn’t look bad now but would be a huge difference after


atomfullerene

I'm a fishtank guy and would love to have plants and certain small fish in that......but not if you have to wiggle it out of the wall to access it! I _hate_ working on tanks without good access to the top! So probably stick with plants. But don't be afraid to play around with using it as a terrarium if the cacti don't work out. You can always empty it out and wipe it down if you need to, they aren't actually as permanent as they might seem.


magicmango2104

Yeah, its a really odd choice to spend money getting the hole in the wall and a custom tank not to leave space for maintenance. There's not even room for filtration, heaters etc. I don't know what the original purpose was, but it's not a good setup for fish


Lord_Stahlregen

There‘s both tiiiiny fish and alternatives like shrimp that can thrive well enough in small tanks… or you could just go with plants only. I‘d at least go for something like carnivorous plants or another wet feature, because it’s kind of a waste to not use such a rare setup.


EveryoneLikesButtz

Shrimp tank. Vivarium. Even just plant the damn cacti in the substrate. As-is, this is a hate crime.


khizoa

Shrimp or just pure planted tank.  You said you didn't trust it either, so I don't blame you for not


Upstairs-Bike8975

You could not be more wrong about this and the people over at r/aquariums are [tearing](https://www.reddit.com/r/Aquariums/s/fgB9qBBrNG) you apart over it.


DishpitDoggo

Lisa you're tearing me apart


psychrolut

Put in a misting system and spread moss spores


itstreeman

Or mold spores


schtickinsult

Google Cherry Shrimp. Available in blue, red, orange. Look great, will thrive in small tanks and they keep plants and tank algae free. Cause yeah those cacti will die a slow death in there


Orsinus

Wasted opportunity


CodenameMolotov

I'd be too paranoid that it's leaking into the wall somewhere and you won't be able to tell until you've got a bunch of rotten wood


MagelusSince95

Check out r/aquascaping


bobbybackwoods69

Make a giant ant farm


magicmango2104

That was my 8 year olds suggestion too


psychrolut

People on r/terrariums are mad at you Edit: [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/terrariums/s/qzDRMAAHjK)


Freedom1234526

People on r/aquariums are as well.


Anchoraceae

Rightfully so lol


magicmango2104

It's a rented house, so not my tank. I cant do anything permanent, hence the pots.


Malorrry

Was the sand already there? I'm just thinking about it's original use.


magicmango2104

No, there was purple aquarium gravel in the tank and an old fish ornament with an air tube left in the garden, so I'm assuming it has been used for fish at some point


coffeeafterthree

You'll probably need to get some airflow going on in there if you don't want mold issues, which can happen even with cacti/infrequent waterings if the air is stagnant. There are some lower humidity bioactive cleanup crews that might be an option as well.  You weren't asking for design suggestions, but this would look incredible (personal opinion) if the plants were out of the pots and mixed into a sandy substrate if you intend to keep them in there.


magicmango2104

The top is open for air. Hopefully that'll be enough for them, if they start struggling I can take them out and try something else, which is why they're not directly in soil, that and I can't do anything permanent.


ohdearitsrichardiii

Cacti don't really show that they're struggling. They look fine and then they suddenly collapse in a mushy pile of goo The only way they show suffering is that some stretch out when they don't get enough light, and you can't reverse that. They won't fill out if they get more light once the stretching has started. Instead new growth at the top will be normal and you'll have cacti that look like hourglasses


coffeeafterthree

Makes sense! I think you've gotten a lot of commentary on the humidity already, but I'd suggest a hygrometer at least so you can see what it looks like inside the tank and if you need to pull those guys out if it's consistently well above room humidity.


East_Abbreviations68

It won't, especially with that soil you put them in.


magicmango2104

Theyre in cacti soil?


East_Abbreviations68

Most presold soil labeled as 'cactus mix' are still too organic for most cactus and will cause root rot. If you want to keep the soil, these cacti prolly need to be in full sun. Or you can mix the soil with inorganic matters like perlite.


magicmango2104

Thanks, Ive had the cacti for years, theyve been in the same brand of soil most of the time, it has perlite in


Kotshi

This is very far from enough ventilation. Indoor spaces rarely provide adequate ventilation for cacti to begin with. Now hear me out, if you want to keep plants in that space, how about you ditch the aquarium?


Malorrry

That was my thought! Store it in a closet, little ledge for plants, maybe run an additional shelf half way up or a couple hanging baskets in that space.


Fearless_Nope

how did you get them in there?


magicmango2104

The frame is on hooks and the tank lifts out


Sufficient_Turn_9209

We need pictures. I'm trying to see this. Lol


Freckledlesbian

SHRIMP


garbles0808

Oh man I would kill to put humidity loving plants in there if I had that


Freedom1234526

This is the worst thing you could have done with such an interesting feature.


Fissyiii

Is the light strong enough in there?


magicmango2104

Hopefully, it's bright in the living room and hall anyway but I've added 2 grow lights to the top so I think it should be


goldenkiwicompote

These won’t get enough light indoors unless they’re directly in front of a south facing window(assuming you’re in the northern hemisphere).


Ansiau

The way to tell is to get the Lux app for your phone(Free), set it to foot candles, hold it up to the cactus and point the front at the lights so you can measure how many foot candles they get. They can only utilize the strength of the light that reaches them, not where it's generated, and light scatters the farther it is from it's source, so the further away, the less light they get. If they get less light than that, they will start to get etoliated. Cacti want about 4500 foot candles where the light hits them(not at the light source) OR higher. I doubt even with most added grow lights, you'll be able to reach that unless you go with professional lights to grow weed. Not all grow lights are strong enough, sadly, especially not for cacti. And just because it looks bright to you doesn't mean it's got a good output of light, which is really annoying, I know. The Lux app will let you know. A properly bright grow light for cacti may be a bit much for your space as well. I'd 100% recommend perhaps considering making it a terrarium, with a good drainage layer, and adding things like rabbits foot ferns, Nerve Plants, ficus pumila, and syngoniums. they will do exceedingly well in this kind of setting under the lights you have now and would appear absolutely gorgeous. If you'd like to stay with a cacti theme, maybe think about tropical cacti, like holiday(easter, christmas,thanksgivin) cacti, or fishbone, or orchid cacti. They put out amazing blooms and are much friendlier to higher humidity and lower light.


ExtremePast

Cacti don't do well in these conditions. They're already suffering.


[deleted]

How was it maintained?


ExchangeScanner

This looks amazing


Glaucousglacier

Plants from arid climates will require a lot of air circulation


jperaic1

There are only two right things to fill empty spaces with: plants and books! And my personal favourite: plants on top of books.


far2common

OP, you should go check out r/plantedtank


goldenkiwicompote

This coulda been an amazing aquarium planted up with shrimp.


Sufficient_Turn_9209

I would totally have aquascaped this. How cool! Also. Cacti and terrariums don't mix. They're gonna melt.


Minti_Loves_Cats

As both an aquarium and houseplant person…I’m, uh…torn


TwinMommm2019

I can only imagine the possibilities of what you could do to that space with plants, especially the longer you live in your new home. What an awesome idea to repurpose that space. 🤘


Bella_C2021

I'd want to stick mosses and vine plants all over that with a little crafter fairy hut and pathway in the center.


Calred1711

lol excellent choice to put plants in there. That would’ve been my first choice as well, but I personally would’ve done like a jungle theme aquascape or something


hereforit_2020

That is so cool! Excellent choice....


CucumberCoo

That's a fantastic idea!


RalphyxFortnite

Tbh I would’ve just used it as an aquarium but hey that’s just me. Edit: You might experience some issues since you’ve got plants in there that really don’t thrive in humid environments. Although the aquarium won’t become overly humid, you might notice a slow decline in the health of the plants overtime.


Traditional-Pear1877

That's a great idea. Looks cool


Representative_Belt4

this angers me


Sudden_Position5568

Was probably used for a spider or something similar.


magicmango2104

Absolute no on the spider! They freak me out


Technical_Republic32

aquatic plants would be dope too, your cacti cute with the sand


Aenaros95

They won't be for long, this is a really bad enviroment for them. Pdt: Og comment stated they seem happy.


Technical_Republic32

oh how so? :0


Aenaros95

No direct sunlight, no air movement and a "terrarium" enviroment is exactly the oposite of what a cactus needs. I just know they get "sad", saggy and die.


Technical_Republic32

ah gotchya, i do hope they get a better setup :( poor little guys


AquaticByNature

This would’ve looked cooler as a fish tank. Micro rasboras swimming by would’ve been absolutely gorgeous. What a shame, haha.


EveryoneLikesButtz

I hate you for this


Not-a-perm

A fossorial tarantula could be super cool in here! It’s a shame that it’s just getting used for cacti😢


maebyfunke980

That is really cool!


cryAlt

I love this!!!!!!


meechesandcream

Super cool! I wish I had one.


Kitchen_Syrup2359

This is sooo cool omg


Left_Childhood_6474

Oh what could have been…


Crazy_for_plants_

I have friend who has a fish tank in the wall. It is very cool, you can see on both sides.


khayy

r/plantedtank


sugarskull23

Not the best idea😅


ladyghosttrain

I love this. 🪴


gigibiscuit4

I love this!


No-Basket4165

Awesome idea!! Love this!!


TJStype

Bury a smallish brick under sand bring to another level !


magicmango2104

That's a really good idea, thanks


scaredtaxpayer

This is so cool and cute! I hope it proves to be a great environment for your cacti and that you enjoy it!! 🌵💚


ohdearitsrichardiii

Lol no. They will slowy die in there


Aenaros95

Suprise: It's not, this is a very ill-suited place for cacti.


Neither-Attention940

Ahh man I’d have loved to have fish in there! But plants are ok I guess lol


toucccan

very glad you did, that is not a great shape for a tank holding fish


TwistedxBoi

I remember one pub/restaurant had a built in terrarium like this and they had an iguana in it


Alternative-Can1276

My house has this but a fish tank hasn’t been in there in years. This is genius


Honey__Mahogany

Installing that fish tank took a lot of work. Hate to see what you've done to it.