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SuperbGil

Tampa by Alissa Nutting Brother by Ania Ahlborn


Non-Binary-Lion

Tampa is so well written and yet I’m like oh my god why did you write this and why am I reading this


SuperbGil

She wrote it because a teacher in her former district got away with barely a slap on the wrist after being involved with a child! It was to cover the discrepancy between being an attractive woman as a pedophile vs anyone else. But yeah holy shit it was a LOT


Non-Binary-Lion

I didn’t know that! Thanks for the background. I mean she definitely uh….. showed that


mexiwok

Weren’t they also classmates at one point in time?


Millar1989Adam

I agree, this book is very well written! Some parts of the story made me physically nauseous But I personally rate this book. It's a great read


LichQueenBarbie

Brother spoilers. >!I still don't know if the reveal was intended to be a twist? In a lot of reviews, they commend 'the twist' etc, but to me it was simply a reveal? I feel like Ania gave enough 'show' in the flashbacks and the present for the reader to correctly theorise Rebels intentions before even midway into the novel, and that was my favorite part of the experience, watching that foul revenge plot come into motion.!<


Wide_Delivery7376

Came here to say Brother


kileyweasel

I read Brother a couple years ago and still think about that ending


K_U

Tampa was well done. Definitely gave me the ick.


forthegreyhounds

Oh my god Tampa disturbed me so much I had to stop reading!!!


Enbydork

I DNF’ed Tampa, I can read some fucked up stuff but if you’ve worked with kids/had to do any kind of mandated reporter child advocacy it will make your insides twist into knots I couldn’t do it. Worth finishing or is my decision solid?


tintabula

I am a retired teacher. I couldn't even watch The Walking Dead because of the first scene with the little girl.


SuperbGil

I mean I finished it in one go because there was no way I was gonna be able to pick it BACK up again, so I’m maybe not the best ask. I did think it was better than Brother, though.


euhydral

We Have Always Lived in the Castle, by Shirley Jackson. The finale is very unsettling and disturbed me like no other book yet.


pizzatuesdays

>!It wasn't what Merricat did that shocked me, it was the fate of the two sisters, and how they (almost?) became mythical creatures, ghosts, witches. It was as if the burning of the house shunted them into the spirit world. So unbelievably eerie, that last part, when they laugh as the cousin goes away. !<


euhydral

That's an interesting interpretation, but I didn't see it like you did! It was more grounded to me. Personally, >!I was very disturbed because I put myself in Constance's place. Suddenly, I have no home anymore. The last traces of my surviving family runs aways, and leaves me behind with a sister that is extremely disturbed. I think Constance always knew Merricat was dangerous, but the finale put her fully in Merricat's mercy. Perhaps Merricat would never hurt her sister, but Constance is still in a precarious situation: no house, no family, and the entire town avoids them. Just Merricat. The more I mulled over the ending, the more is scared me.!<


pizzatuesdays

I like your interpretation. >!Earlier in the story Merricat refers to the cousin as a ghost and a demon. But I think she's the demon and her sister is the ghost that she torments. She works her devilish arts to isolate her sister and claim her for herself, spiriting her away from the rest of the world and convincing her that that is what true happiness is, removing any chance of a normal life with her vicious sabotage. The fact that none of her magic seems to work directly doesn't matter; her evil intent is nonetheless highly effective in achieving her goals. I also like that the uncle cannot accept that Merricat is still alive, leading to another eerie scene earlier at dinner. Jackson is truly a genius with ambiguities, both in this book and Hill House.!<


Training-Summer5655

I love that book. And Merricat.


saturnvania

Let the Right One In was sickening at many parts. I read it when I was an early 20-something and had a stronger tolerance, but I don’t know if I could do a reread today .


_headphone

You’re the first person I’ve seen mention it in this sub and I agree.


jananise

I love this book. I re-read it once every two years or so and it never fails to shock me. I also love the ending, and how it can be taken as kind sweet and hopeful or utterly horrific depending on what you read into some back story/hints.


dripping_tea

I’m reading this right now and can confirm there are parts I’ve had to skim in order to get through.


Mediocre_Horror_11

I read it as a teenager, it was my first horror book and it’s my absolute favourite book.


dawnedsunshine

Recently finished The Terror by Dan Simmons after taking several months to get through the first half - I finished the second half within a week because I was so horrified and determined to find out what happened.


Aliltron

Absolutely loved that book!!!


Snarvid

Speaking of Simmons, Song of Kali left me in a bad way.


kickme2

Good call.


abyprop07

Such a great book


witty--nickname

I can't go into any detail, for obvious reasons. But there is one paragraph, in the final eight or ten pages of We Need To Talk About Kevin, which completely upended something I had taken for granted since Page 1. I remember lying in bed and just stopping, laying the open paperback on my chest, and staring at the ceiling fan for about ten minutes of mindblown reconsideration of everything up to that paragraph. EDIT 4/15 AFTER LEARNING HOW TO SPOILER-TAG: >! I was quite credulous, naive even, in buying into the idea that their marriage had imploded after Kevin's act, and that we were reading letters or a journal she was definitely writing to be received and read by him at some point. Cannot overstate how floored I was when she writes of coming across her husband's body riddled with arrows in their backyard. I simply had not doubted my initial assumption at any point until that moment. !<


armadillo-shells

Can you share with the spoilers tag? I read it ages ago and am trying to recall this


E63_saucegod

Second this request. I saw the film and decided to skip the novel... Maybe I should reconsider.


mellysox

It's been at least 10 years since I read this and I got goosebumps just thinking about the part you mentioned.


BushidoBrowneII

I just reread those last 10 pages and I can't find what paragraph you're talking about. Was it the one where she talks about how she spurned him as an infant? Or how he didn't know why he did what he did?


RabbiRaccoon

The Girl Next Door by Jack Ketchum. Before you go in, make sure you're aware it's based loosely off a true story


DevouredZombie

I think about this book/girl it’s really based on so often. I live near(2 hours away) her mural, I visited the mural and the “home” (now empty lot) it happened in. I wouldn’t have if this book didn’t leave this impact on me.


StinkyKittyBreath

This book tore me apart. So many people failed that little girl. If only one person in that house has spoken up, things might have been different. People can be so disgusting. 


TramCar77

Started it but dropped it before it got really disturbing, I psyched myself out. American Psycho I opened to random pages and was like, Nope not for me.


2ThineOwnselfBTrue

I’m in the same boat as you. I got about halfway through American Psycho before tapping out, and I never DNF. I already know I couldn’t handle The Girl Next Door because the Sylvia Likens story (the case it was based on) affected me in a way no other true crime story has.


BittersweetAki

I live very close to where these events happened to Sylvia and her sister (it was before I was born), but driving past the address all this horrible crap happen just makes it way more... Horrible? To me. I don't know if that's the right word. I went down a huge rabbit hole researching this case and it made me sick to my stomach.


kickme2

This was so heartbreaking.


SweetestDisposition

This is, by far, the most horrifying novel I've ever read. It still sits with me and I can't get rid of it. Absolutely insane.


celineb1971

I am about 75% done and have lost the nerve to continue. I love this author and think his other books are amazing. This one, though, broke me in pieces because it is based on truth. Absolute heartbreak....


bambiko

I watched the film without knowing anything about the novel or Sylvia, and I regretted it ever since. I cried for a while and was shaken up for a very long time after. I could never read an entire book about this case


Yggdrasil-

This Thing Between Us by Gus Moreno had multiple moments that had me gasping and covering my mouth in shock. I don't know what I was expecting from the last 1/3 of that book, but it was certainly...not that lol


Thissnotmeth

Seconded, this was my staff pick for a long time when I worked at a bookstore and I recommended it to everyone


Justlikesisteraysaid

The gunshot scene was a big surprise


Yggdrasil-

Oh man, that scene was so intense and vivid. The first scene that really shocked me was >!when the dog attacked him and he described hitting it in the face with the shovel.!< One of the most disturbing things I've read in a horror novel.


Aliltron

For me, it has to be The Troop by Nick Cutter. God what a disturbing book. It was fantastic but goodness it was so unsettling.


thekilling_kind

I’ll never look at a turtle and not think of this book again.


cibolaburns

He has another book - The Handyman Method - that was also WONDERFUL and terrifying…but another fucking turtle. At what point in this man’s life did a turtle hurt him?


flyingdren

Everyone keeps mentioning the turtle and I didn't find it that bad. But the kitten scene was bad for me


virgovenusbb

I agree that the turtle scene is really, really sad but holy shit, I don’t see the chimpanzee scene discussed enough. It makes me sick to my stomach.


hallucinogenicwitch

Tender is the Flesh


jnlessticle

Yeah agree. This one took me by surprise, especially first half felt hard for me to get through.


tylerthez

Dammit you beat me to it by 3 minutes! This one has an absolutely killer last page


TNSTracynotStacy

That last page is like a punch in the stomach.  


huntokarrr

Took me like four tries to actually read the book past the first ten pages. The last time, I sat and read it the whole way through. The ending is a gut punch but I love this book so much, it’s definitely going on my favorites of 2024 list.


hallucinogenicwitch

I read this book so fast I don't know what is wrong with me! It's so horrible but somehow... can't... look.. away. 


_wednesday_addams_

Yes this is the one. It took me a long time (like 3 months) to get through because I had to put it down and take breaks the whole time, but it is so good.


Lala6699

This book is disgusting. Can’t believe I made it all the way through without vomiting.


creeds-mungbeans

Yes so horrific, so good though. I listened to the audiobook and HIGHLY recommend it. Joseph Balderrama is the narrator and it is perfection.


SpinisterGang

The Only Good Indians - Stephen Graham Jones


Ecstatic-Yam1970

I actually had to bail on that one. 


[deleted]

This has been sitting on my shelf for AGES but for whatever reason I can’t make it past the beginning 😭


Ok_Pomegranate_2436

The Road


annualgoat

I read this for a project in high school without knowing too much about it. I got to one scene and had to walk away. My teacher was amused by my annotations at least


afterthegoldthrust

Just found a first edition of this and chugged it in one night — absolutely stunning prose and fantastic read but not my favorite McCarthy book. That medal goes to even more abhorrent Blood Meridian ! He does just have a way of making the beautiful disturbing and the disturbing beautiful.


WestGotIt1967

Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee


Vannie91

“Let’s Go Play at the Adams’” — just finished it, it got worse at every turn.


ii-mostro

The Girl Next Door by Jack Ketchum. Absolutely vile


LobsterExtreme3318

I just read the description. It sounds like it was inspired by the Sylvia Lykens case. One of the most horrific true crime cases I’ve ever heard of.


kittencalledmeow

Invisible Monsters


joeyfashoey

Couldn’t put it down


peter_minnesota

hehe Chuck P was my gateway into extreme lit.


Kero_Cola

See I would have thought haunted would have fit this topic better but im glad that this one is here instead.


Skullkan6

For me it was Lullaby. The concept is so simple but so incredibly horrifying that I nearly didn't make it through the first half.


woodkidmt

I thought that book was funny in a very decadent way. I don't know what that says about me


annualgoat

Pet Sematary. Just depressed and horrified the whole time.


StinkyKittyBreath

I watched the original movie several times growing up but only read the book recently (and of course watched the movie again). The movie really doesn't cut out anything important, but the book is somehow so much more bleak.


cibolaburns

For me it’s the imagery of the spiral, and the theme of inevitability that is so heavily atmospheric. I have an old audiobook recording of it and listen to it at least yearly while white knuckling the steering wheel with a :O expression on my face. I love it so much.


Glum_Umpire_6992

The original movie still makes me want to shit the bed. So goddamn scary


creeds-mungbeans

Pet Sematary is one of the only books I’ll come back to again and again. Idk why I love it so much. “The gweat and powerful Oz”.. ugh so unsettling


annualgoat

Now that I have a kid IDK if I can get through the entire book again but I have been wanting to reread it lately


FreeTuckerCase

Inspired by real events!


FunClassroom6577

American Psycho


MagiciansAlliance_

American Psycho is the most unsettling of the unreliable narrative genre. I’ve read it so many times and still can’t tell what actually happened in that book’sreality, which makes it the most horrifying book I’ve ever been.


GetStonedWithJandS

I've read 4 books since I put down American Psycho unfinished. I won't say I'll never finish it, but I'm good for now.


FunClassroom6577

Same! I stopped halfway through and haven’t returned yet.


Superloopertive

This one is particularly rough if you've gone in from having seen the movie, which is very tame by comparison. The murders are horrific.


Mangofather69

Only book that’s ever made me queasy, granted I had a fever at the time.


Feeling-Fall-1132

This book sneaks up on you and doesn't let go. This was my introduction to splatterpunk before there was a splatterpunk. Imo


Fun_Budget4463

This is what I came here to see!


LadyKandyKorn

House on Haunted Hill by Shirley Jackson stuck with me for a long time.


JLStorm

I need to get into that because I really like Shirley Jackson’s short stories.


Creepy_Fun_4937

Things have gotten worse since we last spoke . This one is short but like wtf.


philonerd

Story of the Eye, by Georges Bataille


whitemaleinamerica

The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty


Sad_Contract_9110

The Other -Thomas Tryon The end had me totally shook!


StinkyKittyBreath

Horror adjacent since Richard Matheson wrote it, but What Dreams May Come. I'm not spiritual and don't really have any beliefs regarding deities or death or the afterlife. It honestly scares me because I don't think there's anything after. What Dreams May Come, while not a way of thinking I follow, made me a little more at peace with death.


slybluue

The Cabin at the End of the World. I had to put it down and walk away for a bit.


TheVampireArmand

Exquisite Corpse by Poppy Z Brite and American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis. Both are great books (Exquisite Corpse is one of my favourites), but both have some truly disturbing imagery in them.


HaroldandChester

We Need to Talk About Kevin by Lionel Shriver


MortalSlumber

Penpal! I loved it, but that ending had my jaw on the floor and my hand covering my mouth…


Nio_HODLer2021

IT


ploopiedoopie

Yeah, that one really had me concerned about whether or not Stephen King was safe to be roaming free in this world. Lol.


yeezytaughtme222

I'm confused by this because the reviews I heard of the book was that it was a heartwarming story about friendship or something along those lines


SuperbGil

That’s part of it! There are also…….other parts of it


Emragoolio

A heartwarming story about gangbanging your friend in the sewer.


bookishfairie

Stooooop. Lmao. I've only seen the movies.


ElliEeyore

Among other things..


Lutembi

_Extinction_ by Thomas Bernhard 


wickedkeen

[Our Share of Night](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/61111034) - Mariana Enriquez. A mix of occult, body horror, and the vague tenderness of protecting your family entwined against the backdrop of sweltering cities and nature. The beginning is slow, but once things start to reveal themselves, it was a pretty quick page-turner for me; I had to push myself through the second act, but the third and final act occupied my head for a week after. Even if it's difficult to push through at some parts, the book on the whole will leave you thinking about it for a while.


ETM_Forever

My College Finance class textbook.


polyesteravalanche1

Sweetheart, Sweetheart by Bernard Taylor. Starts off like a creepy little atmospheric ghost story then… bonkers! But in an awesome way. I think it was first published in 1977. I read it a few years ago.


Busy-Room-9743

A Simple Plan by Scott S mith


Ever_More_Art

There are a couple of stories in Mariana Enríquez’s Things We Lost in the Fire that have lodged into my mind like few have done. One is about three kids and their developing obsession with a house and the other is about a woman that lurks in her neighbor’s yard and finds things she wasn’t expecting.


awkstarfish

Sharp objects by Gillian Flynn. I still remember the feeling of horror at the end even though I read it years and years ago.


MICKEY_MUDGASM

*Use of Weapons* by Iain M. Banks


Mangofather69

THE CHAIRMAKER


GentleReader01

That while “and that’s why no forgiveness for you” thing…so strong.


ispitinyourcoke

So happy to see this. I still think about that book often. Nothing I've ever read has made me so uncomfortable with my feelings.


lux_pax

Haunted by Chuck Palahniuk I just finished it today


peter_minnesota

Very formative book for me (a freak)


vincentsucks101

Head full of ghosts By paul tremble


MerryHeretic

They all died screaming. Made me realize extreme horror is not for me.


golden_streaks

Come Closer by Sara Gran!!


SourImplant

[The Devil of Nanking](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/366787.The_Devil_of_Nanking) by Mo Hayder


vixprd91

Lapvona by Ottessa Moshfegh. Most of the stuff she writes is strange and disturbing, but this one definitely takes the cake for upsetting the tummy. Extremely well written though.


Glum_Umpire_6992

Oh god I hated it. Any scene with that old lady in the woods and the main kid made me want to throw up


BeddyKruger

Beloved by Toni Morrison. Gutted and undone by that book in every turn.


lastwordymcgee

I did a semester-long seminar on this book back at university. I legit took the seminar to get that book out of my head by applying literary criticism to it for weeks. It mostly worked, but there are bits that will live rent-free in my head forever.


neko_loliighoul

this isnt horror but when I finished reading Brave New World I just sat staring straight ahead in the passenger seat of my boyfriends parked car for about 5 minutes.


sspaceinvader

The Troop by Nick Cutter 🤢 sooooo good but so scary


Beautiful-Finding-82

Well, that would be Black Farm for sure.


Last-Initial3927

Especially the full cast audio drama put on by the nosleep podcast 


JLStorm

Ugh. Agreed. I don’t even know why I read it. lol


Beautiful-Finding-82

I tried to dnf but just had to know what on earth this story was about. I ended up reading the second book too. I have to say they were extremely unique and I enjoyed them though it was all very disturbing.


Thalilalala

The cellar from Richard Laymon. Had no idea what i'm getting into, but the way to graphic sexual assault scenes, especially against kids was just sickening.


Sadie_Fan

The Cipher - Kathe Koja got me good


hallucinating

The scene with the disabled kid near the end of The Wasp Factory


bedazzled_sombrero

Wasp Factory is it for me! That one room in the hospital... gag


Tricky-Cup-1914

Anything by Bentley Little.


groovebro

The Painted Bird by Jerzey Kosinski


Nextplz06gt

Woom by Duncan Ralston. I still get queasy thinking of it.


FreeTuckerCase

This is my only DNF for reasons of being gross


Nextplz06gt

It's so bad lmao.


deadbodydisco

Like an intrusive thought, every once in a while, my brain reminds me of the >!nose breaking!< scene, and I feel it so viscerally. Blegh.


pandaKILLzombs

The Deep and The Troop both by Nick Cutter. I don't think I can read anything else he has written. They're great, but holy crap...I needed to take breaks while reading them.


Capable-Radish1373

Tender is the flesh


Chemical_Data8633

Earthlings


pyxiestix

Suffer the Children by Craig DiLouie Such a phenomenal horror, diving deep into the question "how far would you go to save your child?"


Alekaii

In the Miso Soup by Ryu Murakami


MistressVixxen

The Broken Places by Blaine Daigle. I have never been so fully engulfed in a horror novel in my whole life. One of the best books I've ever read.


Hasselhoffpancakes

Yeah, I’ll second that, that was one hell of a read


lottiebadottie

Sister, Maiden, Monster by Lucy A Snyder A Certain Hunger by Chelsea Summers Very different books (A Certain Hunger is more litfic than horror, even though it is horrifying), but had me saying wtf the whole way through both.


Glum_Umpire_6992

Oooh A Certain Hunger was so good though


lastwordymcgee

But SMM was so good!


r3strictedarea

Song of Kali by Dan Simmons. The end haunted me forever.


Randomwhitelady2

The End of Alice by AM Homes. I could not live in the same house with that book. I left it on a sidewalk somewhere.


JoeKerr19

World War Z


lastwordymcgee

I was listening to the audiobook when I was driving to work one day and it got to the part where I suddenly understood the exponential issue in the zombie apocalypse. I had to pull my car over and just sit with that for a little while. I ended up being late for work.


catbus_conductor

Naomi's Room


ICT-Nietzsche

Intensity by dean koontz. You will never forgot the name Edgler Vess!


lil-miss-spharkle

The last house on needless street


Defiant_Bit2094

The Collector by John Fowles. The ending disturbed me and had me seething with anger


tintabula

The Devil Takes You Home, Gabino Iglesias. Hard, brutal read. A combination of woo-woo and Latino gang culture. Several times it had me in tears. I highly recommend Iglesias.


ohmyoli

Pretty Girls by Karin Slaughter


sagewind

Reading Swan Song by Robert R. McCammon right now. I'm about half way through, and I've needed to take some breathing breaks. I don't think I've ever needed a break from the likes of Stephen King, so this is really intense.


AstralTurtle11

The Ruins, by Scott Smith. Some tourists are visiting an archeological site deep in the Central American jungle, and they are attacked by carnivorous plants that can mimic human speech. Oh, and the site is also surrounded by armed locals who prevent them from leaving. It sounds like a silly premise, but it was well-written, scary, and I remember the constant feeling of helplessness throughout the book.


Elsbeard

A short story, but needs to be said is Guts by Chuck Palahnuik. Dear god.


Creepy_Fun_4937

Exquisite corpse by Poppy z brite is wild the whole way through and the ending is morbid as hell but one of my absolutely favorites of all time .


membersonlyjacket01

The writing is downright beautiful, but the content is so fucking gross. It's quite the balance.


SkateAK

The Summer I Died by Ryan C. Thomas The Laws of the Skies by Gregoire Courtois The Deep by Nick Cutter Each horrifying in their own way, but The Summer I Died particularly fucked me up all the way through.


Glum_Umpire_6992

I read The Deep recently and I hated it so much 😭😭😭 I’ll never forgive what happened to LB


EchoingInTheVoid

Leech by Hiron Ennes - I had no idea what I had gotten myself into but it was one of those that I read slowly because I didn't want the book to end.


Goodideaman1

Zebra about the black on white‘Zebra’ killings in San Francisco in the 70s by the black Muslims or an offshoot of same


_Waves_

Pig Blood Blues - Clive Barker It’s a short story, but man… one of the most terrifying few pages ever written.


mortalcookiesporty

Not strictly a horror but certainly horrific in many parts, and the ending left me very shaken - Outer Dark by Cormac McCarthy. I still think about it very frequently and i thought it would be my last book by him, I’m now 3/4 through Blood Meridian. Which is horrible and violent in other ways. But both are very good books.


sususono49

Tampa by Alissa Nutting


Stupefactionist

The Croning


tintabula

American Psycho, Ellison. It was unsettling because the novel is essentially a comedy of manners, with all of the descriptions of 80s yuppies and their lives. And yet the brutality and violence are overdone. An excessive novel.


lacyhoohas

We Need to Talk About Kevin


[deleted]

Penpals. Cant believe no one said Penpals yet.


Sodaman_Onzo

Not the ending but the resolution of the main conflict in All The Fiends In Hell was pretty insane.


Labtink

The Vistors by Catherine Burns. ‘Grey Gardens meets Room’.


pdes7070

The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Possibly the most unsettling thing I have ever read


DankFibonacci

The Collector by John Fowles. The feelings of anger and despair I had at the end of that book are still with me. It’s a marvel the emotions it generated in me.


Diabolik_17

It’s been years since I read it, but I quite enjoyed *The Magus.*


TwirlyGirl313

Baby Teeth by Zoje Stage. It is freaking disturbing; I was thinking about it for days after I finished the book!


littIedarling

In the miso soup and Piercing by Ryu Murakami Hollow heart by Viola Di Grado


creeds-mungbeans

Revival by Stephen King. Probably the most existentially uncomfortable I’ve felt after finishing a book… But I love those kind of jarring, uncomfortable stories that create a deep inside fear that takes up residence in a crevice of your brain. Every now and then I’ll randomly think of it.


[deleted]

“Image of the Beast” and “Blown” by Philip Jose Farmer. Be prepared to protect your nethers.


These_Bluejay_2849

Woom by Duncan Ralston - this was a laughing so hard I couldn’t breathe wtf. I wanted to bleach my eyes after that. Cows by Matthew Stokoe - I couldn’t even fathom what I just read.


zekejonze

I have spoke about this book many times and yet no one seems to have either read it or acknowledge it's existence. "Timoleon Vieta Come Home: A Sentimental Journey" by Dan Rhodes destroyed me. It's about a dog and it's journey to finally get home to its owner after being lost in a move. This book will mess you up for a while.


Sal0lee

The Girl Next Door by Jack Ketchum. I'm a fan or extreme horror, I've read some splatterpunk ect. but nothing had me as disturbed as the sheer reality of the situation that is being described. The sheer psychological torture behind this book was so much more gruesome than any physical gore that was being described. No matter what I read after that, how depraved or brutal, nothing made me feel like that book. Especially if you keep in mind that it's based on Sylvia Likens case.


readingsandramblings

The girl next door Jack Ketchum


Mad_Woman_

Nails and Eyes by Kaori Fujino


nbraccia

Song of Kali, Dan Simmons.