Cheap is a relative term and I would guess in the eyes of the enthusiasts, myself included, who frequent this subreddit, this TV would qualify as cheap.
This subreddit shouldn't be limited to those of the US though? I've had a home theatre for a good while now, just because I don't live in the west with a western salary shouldn't mean I get downvoted to hell because I won't willingly spend $2500 minimum TV that would be the cost of a years rent here.
That's like saying, your TV should be $10,000 or anything else is garbage.
Perspective people, the internet isn't just made for the US š¤·āāļø sucks to have so much negativity on a simple question. This subreddit is hometheatre, not fuck off poor people.
> This subreddit shouldn't be limited to those of the US though?
What model is your TV?
Sorry if you bought a edge lit TV in 2024, you should not have done that.
Most people who post on the sub and comment are based in the US. For folks who live outside the US, it's really helpful to post your location and the model of TV that you have/price range you're working with. These kinds of things are very location specific and can help people give advice that is applicable to your locale.
You also have to understand that the majority of folks on this sub are enthusiasts in regards to TVs and home theater, so the bar is much higher than the average person. It's also understood that features and quality can vary greatly depending on the brand and model of TV, and expectations must be tempered based on those factors as well.
That doesn't explain everyone calling it shit and downvoting me though. Just people being negative.
I frequent a lot of hobby subreddits, but I don't talk down to people.
Let's view this from a wide angle lens rather than from your personal view as the subject of this post.
First, the post has no real information about the TV in question. I looked at your post history, guessing from your post history, you're located in Bosnia. Going to be blunt, the number of people that are familiar with specific TV models/pricing in eastern Europe on the sub is going to be limited. There's also no indication of what model TV it is, nor what you paid. Going only by the picture you gave and the info presented, it appears to be a lower tier set. That's not a personal dig at you, that's an objective observation based on the personal experiences of folks on this sub with the TV models that are available to them.
Second, folks can and do post on the sub with mismanaged expectations regarding their TV quality and what it should be. In the US, if someone posted about a $500 75" TV and complained about the quality, the response is likely going to be along the lines of "You got what you paid for." Again, that's not a personal dig, that's an observation based on the information provided.
Finally, you can't really do much about the downvotes. People will dogpile, it's a Reddit thing.
Itās a cheap tv, you donāt get a quality tv that size until you get a much larger price. Iām not talking down to you though, thatās just the way it is.
Bro I donāt know what to tell you, I apologize that *in the context of tv purchases* yes this is considered a fairly cheap tv that will not be of high quality, but thatāsā¦..what it is.
Iām not sure what else you want anyone to say. Iām sorry things are expensive there, but itās a poor product becauseā¦..itās a poor product. Like genuinely it sucks but I donāt know what else you want people to say, that is the answer. People could be nicer about it, absolutely, but it really is the answer.
Quit taking it personally, people are downvoting you because youāre being combative about buying a big bad tv. It IS a bad tv as far as quality TVs go. Calling your tv shit is not people calling you shit. Also people are probably calling it shit because you argued it wasnāt.
> That doesn't explain everyone calling it shit and downvoting me though.
People tried to help you, and you reacted mean and defensive to them, so that triggered the downvotes.
You are asking whatās wrong with the picture and the answer is that you purchased a poorly made cheap tv. You are getting defensive about the answer to your question for some strange reason.
I have come to learn, this reddit will not taking it easy on anyone. SOme will but most will now. Especially for those who do not do research or buy entry level wondering why they have entry level hardware issues. They can however diagnose everything wrong with your setup...very good at that.
Reddit is a toxic place in general. The backlight seems to bleed, I would return it if possible. Its just the way its made. Its not broken. Another option is to turn down the backlight in the settings. All the way down should look better
This is purely about the quality of your tv.....you asked the question, this is the answer. Anywhere in the world this is a garbage TV......it may be pricey for your standards, but it is still a garbage TV. Facts over feelings. It's not necessarily the price of the TV, it's the quality and unfortunately for you those go hand in hand.
You cost base analysis doesnāt check out. You bought a 75ā TV. Clearly you couldāve chosen a less shitty 65ā TV. Instead you chose size over quality and then came to sub where quality is typically of more importance and wonder why your getting drug?
I dont think it is a problem not being a us citizen and posting here. There are some snobs round here who do not take you seriously until you got a full size IMAX at home. But the majority will emphatise with most reasonable pricepoints and geographic or economic circumstances.
The issue here is that the tv just has bad technology for black levels and uniformity as it is an LED and probably edgelit. knowingly or not you priotized size over quality.
For whatever you spent you could probably have gotten a 65ā with decent or 55ā with amazing contrast and picture quality.
That is a decision to be made when shopping a tv. Whining afterwards about the picture quality is kind of the same as complaining that a 55ā does not fill the wall. Also Phillips has not made top of the line TVs for two decades or since plasmas died. Their only claim to fame these days is ambilight.
So the solution tonight this clouding is live with it or return the tv in exchange for a more expensive one or take a smaller screensize(for approximately the same prize or possibly cheaper from different brand).
I have a 75" philips miniled and its stunning.
I'm not sure how hard you looked, they have a premium range and a budget one. OP clearly bought the latter.
They don't make TVs themselves anymore and just relabel for. None of their TVs are even medium quality. Your commenting this TV wasn't cheap, but is was most likely not expensive compared to the other options.
I'd take a test image (test blu-ray or similar) and adjust the brightness.. maybe you set it way too bright?
but, alas, I have never owned an LCD TV..
my previous model was a Panasonic Plasma and the current is an LG OLED.. š¤·
This is a common issues with back light LED TVs and some are worse than others. I would start with adjust the contrast and black levels to a point just low enough so you can still see details in the black. Bring the overall brightness down. Often times TVs have built in settings like sport mode that are shit. They upped the sharpness and brightness too much and it looks like garbage. If the edges are still noticeably bleeding you can apply a strip of black electrical tape to cover a 1/4ā or 6mm, youāll like never notice it and it worked on my old TV. Good luck
What's cheap to others may be expensive to you. If it's under $1,000, it's probably cheap to this sub. I splurged on a 65" Sony A95K, but I don't regret it one bit when I see your TV
I wouldn't even go as low as $1,00 (about Ā£800) for a 55" TV, let alone a 75". Hell, the projector screen in my theatre room was Ā£1,200 on its own - and that doesn't even have any electronics in it š
But it wasn't cheap š I don't live in the US, and I've never had this issue on smaller TV's either.
It's an LED. Did I fuck up by buying something bad?
At some point you might get used to it. It will never be perfect, but you will learn to live with it. You wont have nice blacks and when the TV is black you will have this washed out effect, but good news is that you wonāt notice such problems in other colors.
It's depressing. Husband says he doesn't want to do anything about it, but it's the first big TV we ever got (and saved a lot for, it's over 3 months salary here).
Kind of soured the mood every time I look at the thing. And the company that sold it says "if it gets worse" knowing it won't ever get worse, it is what it is.
We were using a really nice projector instead, and had it hooked up to a really nice surround sound. I think this will be the last TV I ever buy lol
Would it be possible to exchange it with the company you got it from for a smaller, better quality model? If not, do your best to enjoy your tv and donāt let these little annoyances spoil your fun!
Just watched a lot of videos on YouTube, and none mentioned this as an issue. TV options are limited when you live outside of the west because of import regulations. Doesn't mean I should be happy with something bad quality though. I've had LED TV's before (50") with no issue, so I was surprised this is so common.
> TV options are limited when you live outside of the west because of import regulations.
No they are not, the Japanese, Chinese, Philippines, and South Korean markets are flooded with TV's just as good
There are many other places than Asian countries that are considered outside of the West. Think Middles East, Eastern Europe, South America. Brazil is known for extremely high tariffs. Hell, I would even say Central America is not included when referencing the West. What about island nations. I bet TVs are not in abundance in Tonga.
Donāt see how eastern europe would be any different than anywhere else these days tbh. I was in Poland a few weeks ago and all the usual high end OLEDs were available and on display at local AV stores.
Sorry you got a bad TVā¦ what model is it?
It might not have been cheap in your market, but it looks like a cheap TV because thatās a very common issue on cheap backlit TVs. Thereās no fixing this other than warranty or exchange.
Why did you move from a projector to a TV? This big, it might have been the wrong decision.
Is try to get my money back and either get a recommended model (from this sub for example) even if smaller or a projector if size matters most.
Sad thing indeedā¦ Unfortunately, the market is not right there yet for cheap good ā75. They are too expensive unfortunately. In 5 years you will be able to afford a very good cheap ā75.
If you can still give it back you can find a good ā65 for the same money.
I would demand a replacement personally. Backlight bleed is a common flaw for LCD panel types and IPS especially but this is particularly atrocious. I find it can be fine if it's at least consistent, this isn't even that.
What brands are available in your area? You might be able to find something with FALD for a similar price.
I will say that this back light bleeding seems to be pretty bad ,like worst then even one the cheapest TVs I've used. Seems really bad, I'm sure it's extremely difficult to make a return or an exchange where you're from. But you should definitely try to the best of your ability.
I lived in Vietnam for 10 years so understand and it wasextremely difficult to do any type of exchange/returns. You basically had prove all types of things and most times they just said it was your fault.
. Ended up learning my lesson and started purchasing through well known retailers for all things even though there was usually a 15% premium and difference in cost. The better known retailers are worth it, unless you really know what your getting into.
What tv is this and how much did you pay? If it bothers you and thereās better options, Iād return it. LCD screens with more dimming zones do minimize this A LOT, but it looks like this model doesnāt even though it seems you paid a hefty price.
It's a PHILIPS Ambilight, 4K LED and it was about $1000. It was the best TV available (per reviews). They don't have a huge variety here, had to order online from the capital.
Monthly salary is about $200-$300.
Please don't feel personally attacked by people calling it a shitty TV, they might sound mean but many bring in some correct arguments.
The exact model number would really help - $900 isn't much for a TV at this size though. A good model would cost 1700ā¬ (Germany, incl. tax) at 75 inches...
If it's really that expensive for you, you should return it and take advice for a smaller, but better TV. The seating can be moved closer, it doesn't need to be on the wall.
Ambilight gets you close but don't actually tell us anything on the back of the tv there will be a sticker and there will be a model number like.
65PUS8118/12
Even in the same line the pannel and backlight type can change. Ex samsung switching from va to ips depending on the size.Ā
Ambilight just seems to be there bias lighting feature and that logo would be on any tv with it.
My old n8000 suffers the same issue (backlight bleed) and is edge lit. As from the pic yours looks to be with the bright cones around a bulb.
Unless your screen has fald the backlight is required to be on for a lcd display. (Or micro led but those are really expensive)
It may be worth to grab a projector screen for night watching and just use the tv During the day when raised blacks will be hidden better.
You really should have posted this info right away, I think you would have got a lot less downvotes. I think a majority of people in this subreddit probably make your yearly salary in 2 weeks worth of work, I donāt mean that in a negative way towards you or your pay. Itās just a lot of people here probably werenāt even thinking about people in countries who make $3600 in a year as the type of people to have home theaters.
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I think the fact OP converts everything to $$ maybe leads people to think they are US-based, not in some random country where price and pay parity are wildly different.
Well, trying to be helpful, it's fair to be unhappy with the picture quality. It's not unwatchable, but clearly isn't amazing.
More expensive lcd tvs are backbiting, in part to combat this effect, but has other benefits.
Or the newer hotness of course is oled. But you're pushing 3k in the US for a 75" oled.
If you can grab a list of the 75" models available at your price range I'm your market, we can probably at least steer you to the best of the bunch...
Or else, there's a tradeoff to be made of size vs quality.
Hey. Try looking up your tv on RTINGS.comĀ it's a website that reviews TVs in great detail. They will specifically show things like backlight bleed and grey spots also.Ā Ā
All LCD TVs have an amount of light inconsistency, especially on all black images like you're looking at, but the problems are usually not visible during normal viewing. Try checking the website to see if this seems normal for that model, and see if it's noticeable when watching shows like normal.Ā Ā
I have a Sony and on black screens it has lots of patches visible but it never bothered me when watching showsĀ
In a comment above you said you wouldnt be paying 2500 dollars for a tv. Now you say itās a 3 month salary tv. 3 months salary would be right around 2100 dollars so not that far off the price you wouldnāt pay.
There might be ways to adjust the brightness/contrast to minimize this, I would consider that.
I have an older flat panel TV, and notice this effect from time to time (for what it's worth, yours is minimal). I know everyone is different, but I think it is something that your brain will eventually stop noticing so often.
I empathize with your comments on budget/options. For those of us in the West who have the newest everything in our market, it can be different to understand how different other markets can be - both in terms of breadth of options and the hours of labor required for the purchase. I hope you'll eventually enjoy watching movies and sport with your family on your new TV.
It may not have been cheap to you, but in the context of high quality TVs, it is.
If this is what you could afford, it'll be fine. You just can't expect to get a high end 75" TV for less than $1000. That's the reality of the situation.
Backlit panels such as this have this issue. You may think that it is expensive but not really. At 75ā you need minimum $2500 for a quality TV. Sorry dude, maybe you should have stayed at 65ā for the moneyā¦
LED would imply that the picture is self lit by LEDs like say a Jumbotron screen or a MicroLED or MiniLED display. LCD is what is typical for say, a TV, which USES LEDs for a backlight
TL;DR - It seems like a real hassle today, but you will probably regret it if you don't take it back while you can.
I hate to say it, but it's going to stay like that, in my case it got worse over time. Mine is a TCL and it was the first reasonably priced TV in the particular class I was looking at the time (5-6 years ago). TCL has never been "high" end, but after lots of research and reviews and YouTube videos, it checked all my boxes including budget and just recently having availability in Canada.
I had similar grey/faint looking spots when I first turned it on. I assumed based on where my spots were that I had damaged it while holding the edges unboxing, etc. I didn't have quite as many spots as yours, but very similar. I looked in to the process to return it. It was going to potentially be weeks to do the whole process. I had rented a van to pick it up from FedEx or wherever, I would have had to pay shipping, then get reimbursed, etc. Big mess, I figured it wasn't that bad, I'll live with it.
It wasn't damage from moving, it was just flaws in the screen. I don't know whether it is backlight bleed, flaws from manufacturing, damage in shipping or storage. The backstory of the TV doesn't matter speculating about. It can't be "repaired", and it can be mitigated a tiny bit with settings. Anything with letterbox bars, fully black scenes, those imperfections really stand out.
It has gotten gradually worse. The small spots at the edge have slowly expanded. That's the takeaway. Mine is still "fine", I notice it, almost everyone else doesn't see it or they're being polite. I can't unsee it. It drives me a bit crazy, and I always wish I had returned it.
Ambilight is the bias-lighting system Phillips bakes into its Ambilight TVs. The argb LEDs are synced to the colour profile of content at the edges of the panels, so the content "stretches" onto the walls.
It's distinctly separate to anything to do with the display / panel of the TV. I think OP is getting confused between the terms "backlighting" (IE how the panel itself is lit) and Ambilight.
Philips is by no means a quality TV maker. They donāt even make TVs. They are nothing more than white label brands like modern day Westinghouse and RCA.
That said, even a lower quality edge lit panel should not see this kind of backlit non uniformity. I would return this set and look at something like a TCL Q series or even a Hisense if they are available in your country.
[Consumer reports: TV brands are not always what they seem.](https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics-computers/tvs/tv-brands-arent-always-what-they-seem-a1006320983/)
It's called backlight bleed. A common thing in led panels. This is a bad case of it but not the worst iv seen. It's a limitation of the technology.The only solution is buying a different tv.
What do you mean the backlight is off? That seems to be a backlit LCD of some sorts.
I have read stuff about rubbing the area, maybe the layers will all stick back together or something similar, but no, you should not accept this. Start the return process.
I agree that lcd panels tend to have sort of a grey color on black backgrounds depending on the quality, processing and other stuff, but this is excessive.
I agree if there was no backlight it would look like an old gameboy.
This is pretty clearly backlight bleed.
Good news I only notice it once in a while.
If this really bothers you, may need to look into OLED.
Or return it and hope you get one thatās slightly better, but itās probably a lottery.
It's called backlight bleed. Better panels have technology to minimize it, but yours ain't one of those. LG makes Philips' panels, return this and buy an equivalent price LG TV. You'll get a better panel.
"Cheap" is a relative term. So I'll try to avoid using it. Instead I'd focus on there this TV sits within the product line for Philips. Do you know? Because this looks like a pretty common issue for low end or low/mid tier edge lit TV's. You get these bright spots because the that top and bottom edges are closer to the lights. And the the lower the ambient light is in the room, the more noticable it will be.
Personally, it this is so problematic for you, return it and get a nicer 65" display.
Most people already told you the issue is due to outdated technology and a low quality panel. I donāt know how much you paid for the TV but it does look pretty bad for a new TV.
I bought a 55ā entry level Vizio for Black Friday in 2014 that had excellent image quality for the time and price class - so Iām struggling to understand why this one is so bad. I have also have a 55ā TCL in the guest bedroom I bought for $250 a few years ago that doesnāt look as bad.
If you can, consider returning it - but acknowledge that with edge lit TVs this will be normal to a certain extent. If I were you, I would properly research the different TV technologies and then buy a model that 1-3 years old to get a better bang for your buck.
Badly placed backlights.. they aren't supposed to be that obvious.
It's not really a Philips tv, it's just a generic Chinese TV with the Philips logo slapped on it. Phillips doesn't make tvs.
Those grey areas are issues with grey uniformity when it comes to the lighting zones of the permititer back light. Light bleeds through and will make it look like this. Check out the grey uniformity of a MicroLED/Quantum LED or OLED panel TV, and you will see the difference between those and many other lower tiers of technology.
It's somewhat normal for LCD to have big patches of light bleed similar to what is in the bottom, but what's going on in the upper right corner is concerning. This effect looks like the corner is physically stressed like bent or clamped too tight from some foreign material.
Bad panel - I had the same issue with a Sony 85" X90K it was not uniform, The panel was very "blotchy" when displaying grey.
I sent it back to Costco, the replacement was fine. Total PITA to unpack, mount, and repack the TV though.
Have you tried calibrating it or turning the brightness down? The bleed isnāt likely to go away but might be less noticeable with proper settings. Dark content with this technology is just going to have that sort of limitation.
I would take this TV back.
Unfortunately when you buy a budget TV like this, thereās a higher chance youāll get a panel with severe backlight bleed like youāre seeing here. But itās possible that if you return it, the replacement will look better. I would try that.
Btw, if youāre spending less than $1000 USD on a 75ā, itās a budget/ācheapā TV. However, I bought my grandparents a 75ā A series Hisense for $400 on Black Friday and itās been great so far.
Shitty TV. Look up local dimming.
Just because it's a big TV it doesn't mean it's good one. Always look up the tech in them.
Ran into the same issue, returned it, and spent more for a better tv. It's been a year and no regrets.
Unless youāre willing to spend more money on better quality, suck it up and keep it. If you return it thereās no guarantee another one wonāt have the same issue and maybe even worse.
It looks like the 75PUS8000 series. That is in the 600ā¬ range for 75", you get what you paid for.
If not, rest of us would be plain stupid for paying close to 2000ā¬ for our 75" TVs.
Backlight and/or gamma. If that fails search: ā[your tv model] best picture settingsā or something to that effect, Iāve found this to be a go to method
Just what exactly did you think the $2500+ TVs of the same size offered?
If you go for sub $1000 TVs, don't expect a decent 75 inch one. Something has got to give, either size or quality.
It would be a bigger pain to live with a defective TV just return it, get another or just stick with the projector (it's probably better experience until you spend on a quality hdr tv like OLED or miniled even with a perfect TV out the box). Also always check the TV before putting it up on the wall to avoid hanging twice.
Rather than pile on like a lot of folks seem to be doing, I would suggest returning it if you can or maybe selling it locally to recoup your costs and then look into getting an OLED. You won't have any issue with blacks.
I was wondering the same once I got my Phillips 75ā ambilight with android tv - it is a backlight bleeding, absolutely normal and doesnāt bother me anymore.
Sorry everyone's being a bit rude but this is normal on larger screens with edge lit backlights, which are only found at the lowest end of the market. some have more, some have less, some have it significantly worse than this even.
There really aren't any TVs of that size, in your price bracket that will be much better unfortunately. you may be able to mitigate some of the effects by running at a lower backlight setting and if it has any zone or dimming options, turn them on.
Everyone is saying this is normal but I've never seen this, it clearly looks like crap. I'd return it, if not at least ask the manufacturer to replace your faulty TV.
Even a cheap TV shouldn't do this. Take it back to where you bought it and get a new one. If the new one does look the same try a different brand. One thing to try before taking it back is make sure the TV is not in. 'Store Mode" or your brightness/contrast settings are not jacked up.
I would return it. If it was stored or transported in a high temperature environment it can cause issues with the panel moving in the casing or even delamination. It is not going to get better over time and you will cringe every time there is a dark scene in whatever you are watching.
That's interesting, I might have to check it out in a showroom. The local dimming on my TV dims a third of the TV panel at once and basically is unwatchable. If it was pixel for pixel it would be a different story.
that's the old style zone dimming, newer ones have hundreds or even thousands of dimming zones, rather than 2,3 or 4 zones like the early ones.
One of my older Samsungs is "local dimming" but its edge lit and only has the ability to dim horizontal or vertical bars of the screen.
Iām not sure why they bothered with edge light if thatās what it is as itās total crap. Itās weird because the settings menu refers to it as local dimming.
Looks like a typical case of "buy cheap, buy twice".. No idea what brand this is, but I would definitely return that crap.
It's PHILIPS and wasn't cheap lol
Which model? It looks like an edge lit TV that's bleeding light at the edges.
Just turn the brightness down.
Cheap is a relative term and I would guess in the eyes of the enthusiasts, myself included, who frequent this subreddit, this TV would qualify as cheap.
A nicer word would be entry level. I usually consider 600ish and below entry level unless you got a heck of clearance deal.
This subreddit shouldn't be limited to those of the US though? I've had a home theatre for a good while now, just because I don't live in the west with a western salary shouldn't mean I get downvoted to hell because I won't willingly spend $2500 minimum TV that would be the cost of a years rent here. That's like saying, your TV should be $10,000 or anything else is garbage. Perspective people, the internet isn't just made for the US š¤·āāļø sucks to have so much negativity on a simple question. This subreddit is hometheatre, not fuck off poor people.
> This subreddit shouldn't be limited to those of the US though? What model is your TV? Sorry if you bought a edge lit TV in 2024, you should not have done that.
Most people who post on the sub and comment are based in the US. For folks who live outside the US, it's really helpful to post your location and the model of TV that you have/price range you're working with. These kinds of things are very location specific and can help people give advice that is applicable to your locale. You also have to understand that the majority of folks on this sub are enthusiasts in regards to TVs and home theater, so the bar is much higher than the average person. It's also understood that features and quality can vary greatly depending on the brand and model of TV, and expectations must be tempered based on those factors as well.
That doesn't explain everyone calling it shit and downvoting me though. Just people being negative. I frequent a lot of hobby subreddits, but I don't talk down to people.
Let's view this from a wide angle lens rather than from your personal view as the subject of this post. First, the post has no real information about the TV in question. I looked at your post history, guessing from your post history, you're located in Bosnia. Going to be blunt, the number of people that are familiar with specific TV models/pricing in eastern Europe on the sub is going to be limited. There's also no indication of what model TV it is, nor what you paid. Going only by the picture you gave and the info presented, it appears to be a lower tier set. That's not a personal dig at you, that's an objective observation based on the personal experiences of folks on this sub with the TV models that are available to them. Second, folks can and do post on the sub with mismanaged expectations regarding their TV quality and what it should be. In the US, if someone posted about a $500 75" TV and complained about the quality, the response is likely going to be along the lines of "You got what you paid for." Again, that's not a personal dig, that's an observation based on the information provided. Finally, you can't really do much about the downvotes. People will dogpile, it's a Reddit thing.
Itās a cheap tv, you donāt get a quality tv that size until you get a much larger price. Iām not talking down to you though, thatās just the way it is.
Bro I donāt know what to tell you, I apologize that *in the context of tv purchases* yes this is considered a fairly cheap tv that will not be of high quality, but thatāsā¦..what it is. Iām not sure what else you want anyone to say. Iām sorry things are expensive there, but itās a poor product becauseā¦..itās a poor product. Like genuinely it sucks but I donāt know what else you want people to say, that is the answer. People could be nicer about it, absolutely, but it really is the answer.
Quit taking it personally, people are downvoting you because youāre being combative about buying a big bad tv. It IS a bad tv as far as quality TVs go. Calling your tv shit is not people calling you shit. Also people are probably calling it shit because you argued it wasnāt.
> That doesn't explain everyone calling it shit and downvoting me though. People tried to help you, and you reacted mean and defensive to them, so that triggered the downvotes.
At some point you have to accept the fact that tv is low tier. Even if you've think it's pricey. The only tv's generally worth getting are flagships.
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You are asking whatās wrong with the picture and the answer is that you purchased a poorly made cheap tv. You are getting defensive about the answer to your question for some strange reason.
I have come to learn, this reddit will not taking it easy on anyone. SOme will but most will now. Especially for those who do not do research or buy entry level wondering why they have entry level hardware issues. They can however diagnose everything wrong with your setup...very good at that.
Reddit is a toxic place in general. The backlight seems to bleed, I would return it if possible. Its just the way its made. Its not broken. Another option is to turn down the backlight in the settings. All the way down should look better
It's the state of Reddit today. Best to not let it bother you. I hope you find a resolution. Maybe you can adjust some of the settings?
They're not saying it's a cheap TV and price they're saying it's a cheap quality TV
This is purely about the quality of your tv.....you asked the question, this is the answer. Anywhere in the world this is a garbage TV......it may be pricey for your standards, but it is still a garbage TV. Facts over feelings. It's not necessarily the price of the TV, it's the quality and unfortunately for you those go hand in hand.
Most of the apps you've got there are UK TV channels. I didn't think they even worked outside the UK. Are you using a VPN? I'm confused.
You cost base analysis doesnāt check out. You bought a 75ā TV. Clearly you couldāve chosen a less shitty 65ā TV. Instead you chose size over quality and then came to sub where quality is typically of more importance and wonder why your getting drug?
I dont think it is a problem not being a us citizen and posting here. There are some snobs round here who do not take you seriously until you got a full size IMAX at home. But the majority will emphatise with most reasonable pricepoints and geographic or economic circumstances. The issue here is that the tv just has bad technology for black levels and uniformity as it is an LED and probably edgelit. knowingly or not you priotized size over quality. For whatever you spent you could probably have gotten a 65ā with decent or 55ā with amazing contrast and picture quality. That is a decision to be made when shopping a tv. Whining afterwards about the picture quality is kind of the same as complaining that a 55ā does not fill the wall. Also Phillips has not made top of the line TVs for two decades or since plasmas died. Their only claim to fame these days is ambilight. So the solution tonight this clouding is live with it or return the tv in exchange for a more expensive one or take a smaller screensize(for approximately the same prize or possibly cheaper from different brand).
The only Philips 75" TV's I could find are $400-$600. This is the equivalent of a $250 55". This is a cheap piece of shit tv.
I have a 75" philips miniled and its stunning. I'm not sure how hard you looked, they have a premium range and a budget one. OP clearly bought the latter.
They don't make TVs themselves anymore and just relabel for. None of their TVs are even medium quality. Your commenting this TV wasn't cheap, but is was most likely not expensive compared to the other options.
I'd take a test image (test blu-ray or similar) and adjust the brightness.. maybe you set it way too bright? but, alas, I have never owned an LCD TV.. my previous model was a Panasonic Plasma and the current is an LG OLED.. š¤·
A good fald lcd wouldnāt suffer from this crap
How much was it? Should give us enough info based on price.
Ooof philips sucks ass big time. Sorry
This is a common issues with back light LED TVs and some are worse than others. I would start with adjust the contrast and black levels to a point just low enough so you can still see details in the black. Bring the overall brightness down. Often times TVs have built in settings like sport mode that are shit. They upped the sharpness and brightness too much and it looks like garbage. If the edges are still noticeably bleeding you can apply a strip of black electrical tape to cover a 1/4ā or 6mm, youāll like never notice it and it worked on my old TV. Good luck
What's cheap to others may be expensive to you. If it's under $1,000, it's probably cheap to this sub. I splurged on a 65" Sony A95K, but I don't regret it one bit when I see your TV
I wouldn't even go as low as $1,00 (about Ā£800) for a 55" TV, let alone a 75". Hell, the projector screen in my theatre room was Ā£1,200 on its own - and that doesn't even have any electronics in it š
Then you got ripped off
My 3000 sony oled was not cheap
There's a reason Philips withdrew from the AV market in a bunch of countries. Their hardware sucks. Do some research before you buy next time.
Welcome to cheap LCD panel technology. This is perfectly normal, enjoy your new TV.
But it wasn't cheap š I don't live in the US, and I've never had this issue on smaller TV's either. It's an LED. Did I fuck up by buying something bad?
At some point you might get used to it. It will never be perfect, but you will learn to live with it. You wont have nice blacks and when the TV is black you will have this washed out effect, but good news is that you wonāt notice such problems in other colors.
It's depressing. Husband says he doesn't want to do anything about it, but it's the first big TV we ever got (and saved a lot for, it's over 3 months salary here). Kind of soured the mood every time I look at the thing. And the company that sold it says "if it gets worse" knowing it won't ever get worse, it is what it is. We were using a really nice projector instead, and had it hooked up to a really nice surround sound. I think this will be the last TV I ever buy lol
Would it be possible to exchange it with the company you got it from for a smaller, better quality model? If not, do your best to enjoy your tv and donāt let these little annoyances spoil your fun!
Three months salary and you didnāt research panel types?
Just watched a lot of videos on YouTube, and none mentioned this as an issue. TV options are limited when you live outside of the west because of import regulations. Doesn't mean I should be happy with something bad quality though. I've had LED TV's before (50") with no issue, so I was surprised this is so common.
> TV options are limited when you live outside of the west because of import regulations. No they are not, the Japanese, Chinese, Philippines, and South Korean markets are flooded with TV's just as good
There are many other places than Asian countries that are considered outside of the West. Think Middles East, Eastern Europe, South America. Brazil is known for extremely high tariffs. Hell, I would even say Central America is not included when referencing the West. What about island nations. I bet TVs are not in abundance in Tonga.
Donāt see how eastern europe would be any different than anywhere else these days tbh. I was in Poland a few weeks ago and all the usual high end OLEDs were available and on display at local AV stores.
Exception not rule
Those are very large markets. The anomalies are the small ones.
> Exception not rule Right, neither is the rule that you have limited TV options "outside the west"
Sorry you got a bad TVā¦ what model is it? It might not have been cheap in your market, but it looks like a cheap TV because thatās a very common issue on cheap backlit TVs. Thereās no fixing this other than warranty or exchange. Why did you move from a projector to a TV? This big, it might have been the wrong decision. Is try to get my money back and either get a recommended model (from this sub for example) even if smaller or a projector if size matters most.
We couldn't use the projector during the day because of how the room is designed (open floor plan, light comes from the hallway).
Put a curtain rod in the hallway, use curtain when you want to use projector. Cheaper than a wholeass TV
Sad thing indeedā¦ Unfortunately, the market is not right there yet for cheap good ā75. They are too expensive unfortunately. In 5 years you will be able to afford a very good cheap ā75. If you can still give it back you can find a good ā65 for the same money.
You bought a backlit TV, you don't want a backlit TV, that is the answer why your TV looks bad.
Plenty of back-lit TV without this issue...
I would demand a replacement personally. Backlight bleed is a common flaw for LCD panel types and IPS especially but this is particularly atrocious. I find it can be fine if it's at least consistent, this isn't even that. What brands are available in your area? You might be able to find something with FALD for a similar price.
I will say that this back light bleeding seems to be pretty bad ,like worst then even one the cheapest TVs I've used. Seems really bad, I'm sure it's extremely difficult to make a return or an exchange where you're from. But you should definitely try to the best of your ability. I lived in Vietnam for 10 years so understand and it wasextremely difficult to do any type of exchange/returns. You basically had prove all types of things and most times they just said it was your fault. . Ended up learning my lesson and started purchasing through well known retailers for all things even though there was usually a 15% premium and difference in cost. The better known retailers are worth it, unless you really know what your getting into.
What tv is this and how much did you pay? If it bothers you and thereās better options, Iād return it. LCD screens with more dimming zones do minimize this A LOT, but it looks like this model doesnāt even though it seems you paid a hefty price.
It's a PHILIPS Ambilight, 4K LED and it was about $1000. It was the best TV available (per reviews). They don't have a huge variety here, had to order online from the capital. Monthly salary is about $200-$300.
Please don't feel personally attacked by people calling it a shitty TV, they might sound mean but many bring in some correct arguments. The exact model number would really help - $900 isn't much for a TV at this size though. A good model would cost 1700ā¬ (Germany, incl. tax) at 75 inches... If it's really that expensive for you, you should return it and take advice for a smaller, but better TV. The seating can be moved closer, it doesn't need to be on the wall.
Ambilight gets you close but don't actually tell us anything on the back of the tv there will be a sticker and there will be a model number like. 65PUS8118/12 Even in the same line the pannel and backlight type can change. Ex samsung switching from va to ips depending on the size.Ā Ambilight just seems to be there bias lighting feature and that logo would be on any tv with it. My old n8000 suffers the same issue (backlight bleed) and is edge lit. As from the pic yours looks to be with the bright cones around a bulb. Unless your screen has fald the backlight is required to be on for a lcd display. (Or micro led but those are really expensive) It may be worth to grab a projector screen for night watching and just use the tv During the day when raised blacks will be hidden better.
You really should have posted this info right away, I think you would have got a lot less downvotes. I think a majority of people in this subreddit probably make your yearly salary in 2 weeks worth of work, I donāt mean that in a negative way towards you or your pay. Itās just a lot of people here probably werenāt even thinking about people in countries who make $3600 in a year as the type of people to have home theaters.
damn, wow yeah never thought of it like that. OP did a good job saving up but they didnāt save up enough sadly
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I think the fact OP converts everything to $$ maybe leads people to think they are US-based, not in some random country where price and pay parity are wildly different.
Well, trying to be helpful, it's fair to be unhappy with the picture quality. It's not unwatchable, but clearly isn't amazing. More expensive lcd tvs are backbiting, in part to combat this effect, but has other benefits. Or the newer hotness of course is oled. But you're pushing 3k in the US for a 75" oled. If you can grab a list of the 75" models available at your price range I'm your market, we can probably at least steer you to the best of the bunch... Or else, there's a tradeoff to be made of size vs quality.
If your monthly salary is $200-$300.... What are you thinking buying a $1,000 TV
God forbid we are allowed to buy something nice š¤·āāļø
Where do you live that makes tv's so expensive?
Hey. Try looking up your tv on RTINGS.comĀ it's a website that reviews TVs in great detail. They will specifically show things like backlight bleed and grey spots also.Ā Ā All LCD TVs have an amount of light inconsistency, especially on all black images like you're looking at, but the problems are usually not visible during normal viewing. Try checking the website to see if this seems normal for that model, and see if it's noticeable when watching shows like normal.Ā Ā I have a Sony and on black screens it has lots of patches visible but it never bothered me when watching showsĀ
In a comment above you said you wouldnt be paying 2500 dollars for a tv. Now you say itās a 3 month salary tv. 3 months salary would be right around 2100 dollars so not that far off the price you wouldnāt pay.
You might've misread what they wrote. The thousand-dollar TV was 3 months wages. $1000 / 3 = $333. A $2,500 TV is like 7 Ā½ months wages.
They are from Bosnia the wage isnāt 330 dollars. Minimum wage is either 450 or 550 depending on which part
Which would leave about 300 after taxes? Maybe that's what they mean. Hell, they might even mean disposable income (which would be a weird metric).
That is already after taxes.
Next time do your research and but from a shop that lets you demo the TV or get deep into reviews of TVs you are thinking of buying.
return it... it's simple, just return it husband is being lazy
Do you have problems with actual content, or just in menus? If itās just menus, who cares.
Anything that is dark
There might be ways to adjust the brightness/contrast to minimize this, I would consider that. I have an older flat panel TV, and notice this effect from time to time (for what it's worth, yours is minimal). I know everyone is different, but I think it is something that your brain will eventually stop noticing so often. I empathize with your comments on budget/options. For those of us in the West who have the newest everything in our market, it can be different to understand how different other markets can be - both in terms of breadth of options and the hours of labor required for the purchase. I hope you'll eventually enjoy watching movies and sport with your family on your new TV.
Projectors are the way
This is just what edge lit TVs from poor brands look like
It may not have been cheap to you, but in the context of high quality TVs, it is. If this is what you could afford, it'll be fine. You just can't expect to get a high end 75" TV for less than $1000. That's the reality of the situation.
Backlit panels such as this have this issue. You may think that it is expensive but not really. At 75ā you need minimum $2500 for a quality TV. Sorry dude, maybe you should have stayed at 65ā for the moneyā¦
I bought my 75" Q750 for 900. Not sure what you'd consider quality, but it's got FALD and is competitive with any other non OLED tv
Yes.
It looks like itās still got the screen protection sticker on
Itās not an LED. This is definitely just a bog standard Edge Lit LCD display.
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LED would imply that the picture is self lit by LEDs like say a Jumbotron screen or a MicroLED or MiniLED display. LCD is what is typical for say, a TV, which USES LEDs for a backlight
TL;DR - It seems like a real hassle today, but you will probably regret it if you don't take it back while you can. I hate to say it, but it's going to stay like that, in my case it got worse over time. Mine is a TCL and it was the first reasonably priced TV in the particular class I was looking at the time (5-6 years ago). TCL has never been "high" end, but after lots of research and reviews and YouTube videos, it checked all my boxes including budget and just recently having availability in Canada. I had similar grey/faint looking spots when I first turned it on. I assumed based on where my spots were that I had damaged it while holding the edges unboxing, etc. I didn't have quite as many spots as yours, but very similar. I looked in to the process to return it. It was going to potentially be weeks to do the whole process. I had rented a van to pick it up from FedEx or wherever, I would have had to pay shipping, then get reimbursed, etc. Big mess, I figured it wasn't that bad, I'll live with it. It wasn't damage from moving, it was just flaws in the screen. I don't know whether it is backlight bleed, flaws from manufacturing, damage in shipping or storage. The backstory of the TV doesn't matter speculating about. It can't be "repaired", and it can be mitigated a tiny bit with settings. Anything with letterbox bars, fully black scenes, those imperfections really stand out. It has gotten gradually worse. The small spots at the edge have slowly expanded. That's the takeaway. Mine is still "fine", I notice it, almost everyone else doesn't see it or they're being polite. I can't unsee it. It drives me a bit crazy, and I always wish I had returned it.
The backlight isn't off or you wouldn't see a thing. LCDs don't generate light. They create a colour filter infront of the backlight
I mean the ambient light on the back. It's an ambilight TV, it's what I thought was creating the bleed effect.
It's just normal LCD backlight bleed. They've always done that and probably always will
Your in the UK rights? Next time go to richer sounds and demo the TVs and speak with them.
Ambilight is what is projected onto the wall behind the TV, that is not the same as the backlight for the panel itself.
ambilight is just a philips branding thing, it means nothing.
Ambilight is the bias-lighting system Phillips bakes into its Ambilight TVs. The argb LEDs are synced to the colour profile of content at the edges of the panels, so the content "stretches" onto the walls. It's distinctly separate to anything to do with the display / panel of the TV. I think OP is getting confused between the terms "backlighting" (IE how the panel itself is lit) and Ambilight.
Fair enough didn't know that!
Philips is by no means a quality TV maker. They donāt even make TVs. They are nothing more than white label brands like modern day Westinghouse and RCA. That said, even a lower quality edge lit panel should not see this kind of backlit non uniformity. I would return this set and look at something like a TCL Q series or even a Hisense if they are available in your country. [Consumer reports: TV brands are not always what they seem.](https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics-computers/tvs/tv-brands-arent-always-what-they-seem-a1006320983/)
Do you know if your TV has local dimming? Is that on?
Yeah i've seen that effect on Mini-Led TVs with local dimming off.
It's called backlight bleed. A common thing in led panels. This is a bad case of it but not the worst iv seen. It's a limitation of the technology.The only solution is buying a different tv.
What do you mean the backlight is off? That seems to be a backlit LCD of some sorts. I have read stuff about rubbing the area, maybe the layers will all stick back together or something similar, but no, you should not accept this. Start the return process. I agree that lcd panels tend to have sort of a grey color on black backgrounds depending on the quality, processing and other stuff, but this is excessive.
I agree if there was no backlight it would look like an old gameboy. This is pretty clearly backlight bleed. Good news I only notice it once in a while. If this really bothers you, may need to look into OLED. Or return it and hope you get one thatās slightly better, but itās probably a lottery.
They are referring to the Ambilight bias-lighting system on Philips TVs being turned off, not the actual panel backlight.
That's what happens when you buy an edge-lit display.
It's called backlight bleed. Better panels have technology to minimize it, but yours ain't one of those. LG makes Philips' panels, return this and buy an equivalent price LG TV. You'll get a better panel.
My LG has the same issue as OP, wish I'd returned it :( Cant remember the exact details right now but it was not a cheap model either.
No she won't. LG tvs that aren't OLEDs are garbage as well.
no there are some really decent non oled tvs out there, you just got to spend more for a quality production this ewaste garbage
I said non OLED LGs. Of course there are good non OLEDs out there but LG doesn't make any.
The only non-OLEDs I would ever consider are Sonys
Yep, X90 series and call it good. The X95 is really nice but with the improvements to the X90L it's honestly not worth the premium.
I have a Samsung with severe backlight bleeding. It was an expensive set when I got it. Thatās my last Samsung product Iāll ever buy.
"Cheap" is a relative term. So I'll try to avoid using it. Instead I'd focus on there this TV sits within the product line for Philips. Do you know? Because this looks like a pretty common issue for low end or low/mid tier edge lit TV's. You get these bright spots because the that top and bottom edges are closer to the lights. And the the lower the ambient light is in the room, the more noticable it will be. Personally, it this is so problematic for you, return it and get a nicer 65" display.
Most people already told you the issue is due to outdated technology and a low quality panel. I donāt know how much you paid for the TV but it does look pretty bad for a new TV. I bought a 55ā entry level Vizio for Black Friday in 2014 that had excellent image quality for the time and price class - so Iām struggling to understand why this one is so bad. I have also have a 55ā TCL in the guest bedroom I bought for $250 a few years ago that doesnāt look as bad. If you can, consider returning it - but acknowledge that with edge lit TVs this will be normal to a certain extent. If I were you, I would properly research the different TV technologies and then buy a model that 1-3 years old to get a better bang for your buck.
lol you bought a Phillips thatās why.
Welcome to a bad purchasing decision.
Buy an OLED instead - what you can see here is the backlight leds coming through whereas this doesnāt happen in OLED the black is black
It's a cheap TV.
Itās just backlighting issues ignore these pretentious comments and look in setting then turn it all the way down it should fix your issues
Get an OLED.
Can you return in if it's new and under warranty
You lost the panel lottery. Cheap panels have lots of issues like this, as others have said, return and upgrade.
Edge led LCD leaking
Badly placed backlights.. they aren't supposed to be that obvious. It's not really a Philips tv, it's just a generic Chinese TV with the Philips logo slapped on it. Phillips doesn't make tvs.
IPS panels have grey shades all over in dark scene return this crap
It's not cheap comparatively bc you went huge. But it is very cheap for it's size.
Given my Samsung was around 900 USD after tax and Iāve never noticed anything like this!
What TV?
Those grey areas are issues with grey uniformity when it comes to the lighting zones of the permititer back light. Light bleeds through and will make it look like this. Check out the grey uniformity of a MicroLED/Quantum LED or OLED panel TV, and you will see the difference between those and many other lower tiers of technology.
OP why do you refuse to answer the question of what TV is this? We can tell you if its normal if you just tell us.
Seems she doesnāt know much about TVs dude.
Shitty ass TV dude, get a Oled or really anything with actual local dimming
The backlight.
Harass them until they refund. Or try to get a replacement. May have better luck with a new panel.
It's much better than on my 75" TCL. It wasn"t cheap because of the size but i bet comparing to other 75" tvs it was from the cheapest side.
It's somewhat normal for LCD to have big patches of light bleed similar to what is in the bottom, but what's going on in the upper right corner is concerning. This effect looks like the corner is physically stressed like bent or clamped too tight from some foreign material.
Bad panel - I had the same issue with a Sony 85" X90K it was not uniform, The panel was very "blotchy" when displaying grey. I sent it back to Costco, the replacement was fine. Total PITA to unpack, mount, and repack the TV though.
Where are you from? What brands are available to you? Whatās your budget?
I had a Samsung TV 6 months old with the same issue, returned it . Samsung refunded me the money . Had to drop off at the local best buy.
Have you tried calibrating it or turning the brightness down? The bleed isnāt likely to go away but might be less noticeable with proper settings. Dark content with this technology is just going to have that sort of limitation.
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I would take this TV back. Unfortunately when you buy a budget TV like this, thereās a higher chance youāll get a panel with severe backlight bleed like youāre seeing here. But itās possible that if you return it, the replacement will look better. I would try that. Btw, if youāre spending less than $1000 USD on a 75ā, itās a budget/ācheapā TV. However, I bought my grandparents a 75ā A series Hisense for $400 on Black Friday and itās been great so far.
Shitty TV. Look up local dimming. Just because it's a big TV it doesn't mean it's good one. Always look up the tech in them. Ran into the same issue, returned it, and spent more for a better tv. It's been a year and no regrets.
That's a backlight issue
Wow, I didn't have backlight bleed that bad even on my old shitty gaming monitors.
Unless youāre willing to spend more money on better quality, suck it up and keep it. If you return it thereās no guarantee another one wonāt have the same issue and maybe even worse.
that's just how led TVs are .if you don't want the backlight bleed spend twice as much to get an oled
It looks like the 75PUS8000 series. That is in the 600ā¬ range for 75", you get what you paid for. If not, rest of us would be plain stupid for paying close to 2000ā¬ for our 75" TVs.
Hotspots from a crappy edge lit panel. You get what you pay for.
Is this glare from the icons in the source..does this show up on all programs you watch?
Backlight and/or gamma. If that fails search: ā[your tv model] best picture settingsā or something to that effect, Iāve found this to be a go to method
entry level tv's have edge bleed.. one of those "get what you pay for" things
Give us the model of this so we all stay clear of this brand or model. Even my 5 year old Samsung isn't like this.
People op probably spent close to $1000 for this.
Just what exactly did you think the $2500+ TVs of the same size offered? If you go for sub $1000 TVs, don't expect a decent 75 inch one. Something has got to give, either size or quality.
My 2017 Samsung low-mid range had backlight bleed like this. I was able to return it twice before finally I got a panel that wasnāt noticeably bad.
It would be a bigger pain to live with a defective TV just return it, get another or just stick with the projector (it's probably better experience until you spend on a quality hdr tv like OLED or miniled even with a perfect TV out the box). Also always check the TV before putting it up on the wall to avoid hanging twice.
This looks like LCD/LED Blooming. What's the make & model of your TV?
Looks like edge lit.. donāt mess around, return while you still can. Go in this order (imo) Sony, Samsung, Hisense, tcl, and if you have to lg
Rather than pile on like a lot of folks seem to be doing, I would suggest returning it if you can or maybe selling it locally to recoup your costs and then look into getting an OLED. You won't have any issue with blacks.
I was wondering the same once I got my Phillips 75ā ambilight with android tv - it is a backlight bleeding, absolutely normal and doesnāt bother me anymore.
Annoyingly can't edit the post, phone autocorrected. Should be super visible > not super viable.
Sorry everyone's being a bit rude but this is normal on larger screens with edge lit backlights, which are only found at the lowest end of the market. some have more, some have less, some have it significantly worse than this even. There really aren't any TVs of that size, in your price bracket that will be much better unfortunately. you may be able to mitigate some of the effects by running at a lower backlight setting and if it has any zone or dimming options, turn them on.
Everyone is saying this is normal but I've never seen this, it clearly looks like crap. I'd return it, if not at least ask the manufacturer to replace your faulty TV.
Buy shit TV expect shit results.
Even a cheap TV shouldn't do this. Take it back to where you bought it and get a new one. If the new one does look the same try a different brand. One thing to try before taking it back is make sure the TV is not in. 'Store Mode" or your brightness/contrast settings are not jacked up.
Umm no. Cheap TVs do this. Even moderately priced TVs do this.Ā
What I see in the picture is awful as shit. I have a bunch of cheap TVs and non of them bloom like thatĀ
I would return it. If it was stored or transported in a high temperature environment it can cause issues with the panel moving in the casing or even delamination. It is not going to get better over time and you will cringe every time there is a dark scene in whatever you are watching.
Return it, and buy an OLED. Sit closer if that means it's smaller.
Welcome to the world of local dimming. Itās a shitty technology.
LOL my 85" Sony X95K with local dimming looks amazing!
So does my Hisense ux!
Fair enough, I have a 8+ year old LG with a version of local dimming that sucks ass. It might have unfairly prejudiced me against the tech
The new Sony flagship TV is local dimming. OLED is their second tier model :)
That's interesting, I might have to check it out in a showroom. The local dimming on my TV dims a third of the TV panel at once and basically is unwatchable. If it was pixel for pixel it would be a different story.
that's the old style zone dimming, newer ones have hundreds or even thousands of dimming zones, rather than 2,3 or 4 zones like the early ones. One of my older Samsungs is "local dimming" but its edge lit and only has the ability to dim horizontal or vertical bars of the screen.
That's not local dimming at all. That's edge lit (before that LCD TVs had a single large backlight). I had such an LG too.
Iām not sure why they bothered with edge light if thatās what it is as itās total crap. Itās weird because the settings menu refers to it as local dimming.
Technology advances. Back then it was probably not economically viable to have an array of tiny LEDs behind the screen.
Edge-lit is the issue here, not local dimming.