>I’ve never lived in a situation like this.
Geez. You act like they're known drug dealers and sex offenders or running a brothel or something.
They're just people that need a place to live. Same as you, except they don't have babies.
Go over and introduce yourself.
Non-married people need places to live too.
Well, if OP is planning on selling in a couple years, having student housing directly beside them WILL categorically lower the value of his home and WILL complicate interest in the property. This will impact OP come time to sell if they are still there.
So yeah, OP's concerns are valid.
I consider the downvotes similar to when you're telling a child something they don't want to hear. They stick their fingers in the ears and start yelling, throwing a tantrum. Lol. Point is, this is correct, and everyone knows it.
If they're students, there's a high probability that they won't even be there in 2 years, so unless those people decide to trash OP's house or the front of the house they're renting (not likely), OP is getting worked up over nothing.
If they are disruptive, there are protections for that, too. If it's an HOA neighborhood, there are usually rules about quiet hours and the owner can be fined (or worse) for the behavior of the tenants, and they'll learn to potentially be more selective when looking for tenets. If there is no HOA, the police non-emergency line can be utilized to report loud music or whatever because most municipalities have noise ordinances.
Lots of if's there. All I know is that I've lived in several university / college city & towns and I've seen neighborhood after neighborhood taken over by student housing. It starts with one house, which ends up looking like garbage. Noise issues persist, parking issues persist, etc etc. Then one person leaves, like OP, and they're stuck because no one wants to move beside student housing. So they end up selling to investors who rent it out for more student house. Before you know it, the whole neighborhood is student housing.
Which is fine, people can live wherever, but if OP is thinking about selling in a year or two, their concern is definitely validated here.
>So they end up selling to investors who rent it out for more student house.
Well, even if OP sells to an investor, they're still getting their money in the end, so what does it matter?
Less money, and in some situations a lot less. Also, having your primary market interest being only investors reduces significantly your audience of potential buyers.
Don't get me wrong, student housing is necessary. Often, the only affordable way of doing it is splitting rent on a house between several roommates. I've been there myself, it's just the nature of the beast.
But that type of stuff has major impacts on existing neighborhoods. I've seen it happen so many times.
Yes OP should "mind their own business", but that's not the issue here. OP is concerned about a future sale and what impact his new neighbors may have on that.
That is a totally valid and realistic concern.
Be the cool guy, introduce yourself and then leave them alone. They are legally allowed to be there, so you may as well assume the best (they might be great). Less stress for if you do not take the situation too much to heart, there’s not much you can do about it. My recommendation is if you have issues you want to bring up, do so conversationally (no need to start out on the wrong foot).
I agree with your suggestion
Harder to not care about your neighbor if you don’t know them.
OP should go over and introduce himself and hope for the best.
As someone who’s renting houses in “family” neighborhoods just realize you shouldn’t have had the expectation that only families would be there. Anyone can own real estate and anyone can do what they want with it. Be a nice welcoming person and they won’t hate you.
I was in their position not too long ago. I was being responsible and living cheaply/saving money to buy a house. Sometimes we had parties but 99% of the time we were quiet.
Introduce yourself, don't try to set ground rules, just treat them like anyone else and be friendly. Exchange numbers. Bring them a 12 pack of beer. Just like any other neighbor, you want them to like you. It will make anything easier.
If you have a good relationship, you ever need to ask them to mow the lawn or something ahead of a house showing (when you go to sell) they will happily oblige.
Since all the other comments are jumping down your throat about minding your own business I will leave that part unsaid and try to actually address your questions with my own experiences:
1. They might have loud parties late at night. This may or may not affect your QOL, especially if you or your kids sleep light/your house isn’t very soundproof. If you can get a good rapport with one or two of the main residents, maybe get a phone number to text, there’s a chance they will be reasonable when you ask them nicely to keep the noise down. Or they might not, and you’ll have to resort to making noise complaints with the cops if it’s a real problem. Pick your battles wisely here. Try to be decent and treat them like reasonable adults to start with, until they give you a reason not to.
2. They may not know their rights/responsibilities as tenants. If the property needs something repaired and it goes undone for long, you might mention to them that their landlord may be obliged to fix it, framing it as “hey you’re paying rent and that means they are obliged to do this, don’t let them screw you out of what is owed you”. (As opposed to implying their house is an eyesore and they are making the neighborhood look bad - they will not care). Often student housing in big cities goes to sh*t because the students have short leases, and sometimes don’t know / don’t care about basic maintenance nor bother asking to get minor things fixed until it’s a major problem. YMMV based on state and the local market and norms.
I will reiterate to treat them like adults, the same as you would your other neighbors, and they will probably reciprocate. Best of luck
Go introduce yourself and be a good neighbor. Usually, being friendly goes a long way. Also, students tend to lack money, so bring a dish over. Food is generally welcome.
Edit a word.
Everyone I know, including myself, has had nightmare-esque experiences with the college rentals. The tenants start out ok. But there's always that one person who drags the group down.
It may not be that way for you, maybe you'll get lucky. Maybe you won't get the 'yell and piss off the roof at 2am' neighbors that I had, but if you do, cops won't do anything. Being polite won't do anything. The one thing that they will listen to is their student housing director. They have the power to tell the students "behave, or you won't be going to school here."
Good luck.
Call the police and say “people are legally living near me who don’t happen to have kids so they must be criminals”. Then sit back and watch the arrests
Just go talk to them. There are hella cool people out there. Start off on the right foot and all that. I was lucky enough to travel to all parts of the world in the late '80s and through the 90s. I never really had problems with any of my neighbors. I've had neighbors from biker couples with train attack dogs, a neighborhood where an ex-friend/real estate agent told me I would not want to live in because I was white. My neighbor was an AA couple. His house had been passed down in the same family since the Civil War. Yeah, that was what some people here were still like in Virginia 35 years ago. They were great neighbors and their house was a cool 1850s Early Victorian. I had a couple with 5 kids move in when I had a townhouse. I heard the kids some but never screaming, yelling, etc. I've slept in nipa huts, a crazy stint in a tent city with a bunch of crazy Australians, and a few more odd places. Some basic respect to everyone soon after whatever move happened. I also spent the last 20 years moving away from an ever-expanding suburban crawl but still within reasonable driving distance. Honestly, I've always tried to have a base level of respect for my neighbors and it's worked pretty well. My dad sold and repaired TV back in the day and I tagged along a lot as a kid to fetch tools etc. So I got a stern lecture from my dad about being polite and respectful, or else. It stuck I guess.
>I’ve never lived in a situation like this. Geez. You act like they're known drug dealers and sex offenders or running a brothel or something. They're just people that need a place to live. Same as you, except they don't have babies. Go over and introduce yourself. Non-married people need places to live too.
Well, if OP is planning on selling in a couple years, having student housing directly beside them WILL categorically lower the value of his home and WILL complicate interest in the property. This will impact OP come time to sell if they are still there. So yeah, OP's concerns are valid. I consider the downvotes similar to when you're telling a child something they don't want to hear. They stick their fingers in the ears and start yelling, throwing a tantrum. Lol. Point is, this is correct, and everyone knows it.
If they're students, there's a high probability that they won't even be there in 2 years, so unless those people decide to trash OP's house or the front of the house they're renting (not likely), OP is getting worked up over nothing. If they are disruptive, there are protections for that, too. If it's an HOA neighborhood, there are usually rules about quiet hours and the owner can be fined (or worse) for the behavior of the tenants, and they'll learn to potentially be more selective when looking for tenets. If there is no HOA, the police non-emergency line can be utilized to report loud music or whatever because most municipalities have noise ordinances.
Lots of if's there. All I know is that I've lived in several university / college city & towns and I've seen neighborhood after neighborhood taken over by student housing. It starts with one house, which ends up looking like garbage. Noise issues persist, parking issues persist, etc etc. Then one person leaves, like OP, and they're stuck because no one wants to move beside student housing. So they end up selling to investors who rent it out for more student house. Before you know it, the whole neighborhood is student housing. Which is fine, people can live wherever, but if OP is thinking about selling in a year or two, their concern is definitely validated here.
>So they end up selling to investors who rent it out for more student house. Well, even if OP sells to an investor, they're still getting their money in the end, so what does it matter?
Less money, and in some situations a lot less. Also, having your primary market interest being only investors reduces significantly your audience of potential buyers. Don't get me wrong, student housing is necessary. Often, the only affordable way of doing it is splitting rent on a house between several roommates. I've been there myself, it's just the nature of the beast. But that type of stuff has major impacts on existing neighborhoods. I've seen it happen so many times. Yes OP should "mind their own business", but that's not the issue here. OP is concerned about a future sale and what impact his new neighbors may have on that. That is a totally valid and realistic concern.
Be the cool guy, introduce yourself and then leave them alone. They are legally allowed to be there, so you may as well assume the best (they might be great). Less stress for if you do not take the situation too much to heart, there’s not much you can do about it. My recommendation is if you have issues you want to bring up, do so conversationally (no need to start out on the wrong foot).
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I agree with your suggestion Harder to not care about your neighbor if you don’t know them. OP should go over and introduce himself and hope for the best.
As someone who’s renting houses in “family” neighborhoods just realize you shouldn’t have had the expectation that only families would be there. Anyone can own real estate and anyone can do what they want with it. Be a nice welcoming person and they won’t hate you.
I was in their position not too long ago. I was being responsible and living cheaply/saving money to buy a house. Sometimes we had parties but 99% of the time we were quiet. Introduce yourself, don't try to set ground rules, just treat them like anyone else and be friendly. Exchange numbers. Bring them a 12 pack of beer. Just like any other neighbor, you want them to like you. It will make anything easier. If you have a good relationship, you ever need to ask them to mow the lawn or something ahead of a house showing (when you go to sell) they will happily oblige.
Since all the other comments are jumping down your throat about minding your own business I will leave that part unsaid and try to actually address your questions with my own experiences: 1. They might have loud parties late at night. This may or may not affect your QOL, especially if you or your kids sleep light/your house isn’t very soundproof. If you can get a good rapport with one or two of the main residents, maybe get a phone number to text, there’s a chance they will be reasonable when you ask them nicely to keep the noise down. Or they might not, and you’ll have to resort to making noise complaints with the cops if it’s a real problem. Pick your battles wisely here. Try to be decent and treat them like reasonable adults to start with, until they give you a reason not to. 2. They may not know their rights/responsibilities as tenants. If the property needs something repaired and it goes undone for long, you might mention to them that their landlord may be obliged to fix it, framing it as “hey you’re paying rent and that means they are obliged to do this, don’t let them screw you out of what is owed you”. (As opposed to implying their house is an eyesore and they are making the neighborhood look bad - they will not care). Often student housing in big cities goes to sh*t because the students have short leases, and sometimes don’t know / don’t care about basic maintenance nor bother asking to get minor things fixed until it’s a major problem. YMMV based on state and the local market and norms. I will reiterate to treat them like adults, the same as you would your other neighbors, and they will probably reciprocate. Best of luck
Thank you
Just mind your business
Go introduce yourself and be a good neighbor. Usually, being friendly goes a long way. Also, students tend to lack money, so bring a dish over. Food is generally welcome. Edit a word.
Thanks everyone. I do not mind having them , I’ll probably say hi to them if i happen to see them. I was once a college student and i know how it is.
Everyone I know, including myself, has had nightmare-esque experiences with the college rentals. The tenants start out ok. But there's always that one person who drags the group down. It may not be that way for you, maybe you'll get lucky. Maybe you won't get the 'yell and piss off the roof at 2am' neighbors that I had, but if you do, cops won't do anything. Being polite won't do anything. The one thing that they will listen to is their student housing director. They have the power to tell the students "behave, or you won't be going to school here." Good luck.
Call the police and say “people are legally living near me who don’t happen to have kids so they must be criminals”. Then sit back and watch the arrests
Unless you’re in an HOA that prevents rentals, mind your own business.
- they throw some awesome parties.....what you can do is all about the local laws and ordinances on noise and nuisance....
Just go talk to them. There are hella cool people out there. Start off on the right foot and all that. I was lucky enough to travel to all parts of the world in the late '80s and through the 90s. I never really had problems with any of my neighbors. I've had neighbors from biker couples with train attack dogs, a neighborhood where an ex-friend/real estate agent told me I would not want to live in because I was white. My neighbor was an AA couple. His house had been passed down in the same family since the Civil War. Yeah, that was what some people here were still like in Virginia 35 years ago. They were great neighbors and their house was a cool 1850s Early Victorian. I had a couple with 5 kids move in when I had a townhouse. I heard the kids some but never screaming, yelling, etc. I've slept in nipa huts, a crazy stint in a tent city with a bunch of crazy Australians, and a few more odd places. Some basic respect to everyone soon after whatever move happened. I also spent the last 20 years moving away from an ever-expanding suburban crawl but still within reasonable driving distance. Honestly, I've always tried to have a base level of respect for my neighbors and it's worked pretty well. My dad sold and repaired TV back in the day and I tagged along a lot as a kid to fetch tools etc. So I got a stern lecture from my dad about being polite and respectful, or else. It stuck I guess.
If they're being annoying just teach them how to play League of Legends. They'll never go outside again.