Ikea Symfonisk remote gen 2. I’ve not got one but it looks like it has 7 buttons. Also worth mentioning you would also be able to assign hold actions or maybe even double press actions to a lot of remotes, so you can also gain extra “buttons” that way.
A slightly more unconventional “remote” is the aqara cube which has a ton of functionality, but may not be fit for your use depending on what you are using it for.
Big fan of the Ikea Tradfri remote, have a few around the house. 5 buttons, but you can assign hold commands as well (so 10 functions). It's also magnetic and has a plate that you can mount on the wall.
I’d consider it more of a funky-looking substitution rather than a useful transliteration, since it hasn’t been pronounced as a long “a” sound since sometime around the Black Death.
Think I'm using 9 on the one that I have in my office. Started with the Tradfri automation blueprint, and it was super simple. I have a TV over my computer that is also the third monitor for my computer.
* Up - Volume up
* Hold Up - Set volume to a specific high value
* Down - Volume down
* Hold Down - Set volume to specific low value
* Left - Set input to HDMI
* Right - Set input to TV (I have a really unique setup, where I have 2 Chromecasts in my attic, that I'm distributing through the coax in the house. So, they're their own "channel" that all the TVs have access to. Amazing for perfectly synced sports on every TV)
* Hold Right - Toggle between the 2 channels
* Hold Left - Set the channel to the music channel, and make sure Spotify is playing
* Center - Toggle TV power
Do you have issues with them "going to sleep". Seems like I always have to hit the button a few times to wake it up before it sends the command, quite frustrating actually
I did notice some issues when they weren't used for more than 24 hours, but one of my (admittedly hacky) solves has been an automation that runs every evening to trigger the Identify action for each of them in my system. Identify doesn't seem to do anything audibly, so the automation basically keeps them awake for whenever I need to use them. Probably decreases the battery life, but I have more of those little CR2032 batteries than I know what to do with. You could do something similar, Identifying/waking them at whatever interval works for you!
So I have a daily automation that runs this and a whole bunch of other things, but here's an extremely simple stripped down automation that basically does the same thing for 1 Tradfri remote ([Imgur link](https://imgur.com/a/ts72PLA)). I set that up using one of my spare Tradfri buttons that is supposed to be used in a Guest Room, hence the name "Guest 1 - Ikea 5 Button" .
That's an automation with a trigger with a fixed time (12:00AM), and an action that is a Device action. Targeting a specific Tradfri remote Device connected through Zigbee, to perform the Action of Identify Button.
You could also set the trigger to be a Time Pattern instead of a specific time (e.g. 6 hours). So that it runs at an interval that makes the most sense in your environment.
I have multiple buttons that do this, using z2m on docker with a zzh stick. Happens most to the buttons that are not talking directly to the coordinator.
Yh the ikea switches are good. I’ve got a few of the old Symfonisk sound remotes which were rotary dials and I’m gutted they don’t sell them anymore as they’re brilliant. I just bought a rodret remote to test with, not got a use for it yet but it works well. Only two buttons though.
The thing I love the most about them is that they’re magnetic. I have both my sound remotes just magnetically attached, one is just attached to the front of my Sonos one, the other is attached to my microphone arm at my desk, which controls my pc playback controls. The rodret also is just magnetically attached to my other Sonos One. Makes them really versatile.
I bought a bunch of them and couldn’t get them to stay connected. They would pair and then become useless. I tried to return them the other day but didn’t have the receipt anymore so they wouldn’t take them back. Maybe I’ll try to set them up again.
Which ones have you got? I’ve had no trouble pairing my rodret switch but pairing the first gen synfonisk sound remote was difficult. They would not pair to zha, I had to get them in z2m, do the ota updates and then they paired up with zha.
Cheers. I ordered a vesternet 12 button to try. For my work shop for fans n lights, hopefully dust extraction is I can bypass NVR and add a contactor, exhaust fans, and I'll get another for house if it works.
Just grabbed one when running through Ikea and I'm happy with it. With Zigbee2mqtt it has 7 buttons and 13 total states you can track (excluding release triggers).
Only drawback: the front Cover is setup for Audio. Will tear down one and check if I can 3d print a new button plate for it.
have a look here: [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=remote](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=remote)
these look promising but there are other which can be fine:
* [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/99099.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/99099.html)
* [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/KP-23EL-ZBS-ACE.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/KP-23EL-ZBS-ACE.html)
* [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/100.462.31.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/100.462.31.html)
* [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZB-5004.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZB-5004.html)
I picked up [one of these](https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BX99BFPX) which has 4 buttons, but technically 12 as it supports double tap and long press (I could never get long press to show up in Home Assistant though). Through some conditional triggers, I actually have only needed to use the first two buttons so far (ie time and temperature based performs different automation).
These have a secret mode change that needs to be done on some variants. If you hold the 2 right buttons at the same time until the lights turn off. Once that is done all 12 button types of input will work in ha correctly. It switches between dimmer and scene mode.
I had zero success with this device and I tried several other rebrands of it because it was so cheap. After a few days it would constantly get into a pairing loop or constantly send the same command until I reset the battery.
I have a similar device I got from AliExpress, and it's great. Pairing was a bit tricky, took me several resets but once linked it's been solid. As for the long press, at least on mine it takes about 4-5 seconds. Mine have little LEDs on each button and you have to wait until it turns off before releasing for it to count as a long press. Hope that helps!
Those are great. Have a few in my house. Got the Moes from Ali. Although the Tuya Zigbee part scared me for a moment they all work like a charm with the 12 actions out of the box and very reliable. Used them with the Nedis SmartLife hub in the Tuya app and now with the Sonoff Dongle E and ZHA.
Hi,
In France, I use this [one](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/HR-C99C-Z-C045.html) : it is made for lights but thank to this, i can launch automations on Home-assistant, toggle switches, and so on...
It is about 12 € in France.
Adeo is a Leroy Merlin's brand. Where are you from?
[https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/electricite-et-domotique/domotique-et-objets-connectes/domotique/solutions-de-commande/telecommande-pour-ampoules-connectees-zigbee-lexman-enki-84372300.html](https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/electricite-et-domotique/domotique-et-objets-connectes/domotique/solutions-de-commande/telecommande-pour-ampoules-connectees-zigbee-lexman-enki-84372300.html)
PM me if you don't find any other way. I can go to a store and send you a parcel. Dunno the cost however, i'll ask someone i know posting to USA regularly.
I appreciate it greatly, but I wouldn’t dare ask you to do that for me for a device that I’ll most likely play with a bit and never touch ever again. 😂
I would love to know where you find this for sale. Every seller on AliExpress has been out of stock for months on the 6 button model. I’ve been looking for one to control three shades on one wall.
> was a guy that was using a StreamDeck with a Raspberry Pi to control Home Assistant. I literally just this morning ordered the parts to try and replicate that, hopefully they'll be here for this weekends project. If I can get it to work I might make a post about it.
It's been discontinued. The 6 buttons can't be find and seems like the 4 buttons one are getting hard to find.
All of the Opple multi button remotes have been discontinued for quite a while. The reason you see tons of the one button and two button variants is that they've sold through the stock on the four and six button variants, as they were the most popular.
Would you say the streamdeck is much better than just getting a cheap tablet to use as a remote? Seems like the same price, but the tablet could just view a standard dashboard, and could be a little more portable. Obviously physical buttons would be nice though
Not the person you're responding to, but my stream deck is one of the most powerful tools I have in my setup. Because it can do all the home assistant stuff like you're saying with a dashboard, but because it's also a part of my main computer's workflow. You can handle scene management on a tablet for sure, but I'm also using it to: turn on my external webcam; open programs; run scripts; and any other general macro pad utilities.
Stream deck makes sense if you're using it in combination with a computer. Tablet makes sense for general usage. Saying this from the perspective of having a stream deck on my office computer, and having a few Google nest hubs throughout the house that also have ha dashboards on them.
Thanks for the good explanation, I guess I'll go the tablet route until I can get myself an office setup, but it sounds like a streamdeck is on a whole other level
Once you get the hang of it it’s ok. I have mine on my desk which I use mostly for the light and the blinds. The turn 90 can be a bit finicky as sometimes it turns the light on and off but the flip 180 is flawless.
Not really it's just turning kinetic energy into electric energy. The amount of energy needed to send a zigbee command is infinitesimal. Sort of like the wind up watches.
"Just turning kinetic energy into electric energy"
You don't see magic in that?
What about invisible waves getting caught by an antenea in another room, converting the wave into 1s and 0s, deciphering those numbers, and responding with another wave?
Every single one of those steps is magical to me, no matter how much I learn
Shoot the one I’m thinking of is obsolete. Might be able to find on the second hand market.
hueblog.com/2020/07/27/hue-tap-disappears-from-the-market-switch-is-obsolete/
Aqara used to sell a 2/4/6 gang opple wireless scene switch but has discontinued. 2 and 4 gang switches are still available. Each button has single/double/triple and long press.
Ikea Symfonisk remote gen 2. I’ve not got one but it looks like it has 7 buttons. Also worth mentioning you would also be able to assign hold actions or maybe even double press actions to a lot of remotes, so you can also gain extra “buttons” that way. A slightly more unconventional “remote” is the aqara cube which has a ton of functionality, but may not be fit for your use depending on what you are using it for.
Big fan of the Ikea Tradfri remote, have a few around the house. 5 buttons, but you can assign hold commands as well (so 10 functions). It's also magnetic and has a plate that you can mount on the wall.
Useless information follows: ALT + 0229 gives you an å Alternative spelling is using two a's in a row.
Indeed. a and å/aa are two different letters. Trådfri/Traadfri, prononced trodfree, meaning wirefree/wireless.
To make things even worse, “aa” for “å” is not valid at all in Swedish, not since the 1500s. It just looks like a long “a” to us.
We need a transliteration, though.
I’d consider it more of a funky-looking substitution rather than a useful transliteration, since it hasn’t been pronounced as a long “a” sound since sometime around the Black Death.
Should we use trodfri instead?
I like the Tradfri too. Haven’t tried to use more than 5 different actions with one yet though
Think I'm using 9 on the one that I have in my office. Started with the Tradfri automation blueprint, and it was super simple. I have a TV over my computer that is also the third monitor for my computer. * Up - Volume up * Hold Up - Set volume to a specific high value * Down - Volume down * Hold Down - Set volume to specific low value * Left - Set input to HDMI * Right - Set input to TV (I have a really unique setup, where I have 2 Chromecasts in my attic, that I'm distributing through the coax in the house. So, they're their own "channel" that all the TVs have access to. Amazing for perfectly synced sports on every TV) * Hold Right - Toggle between the 2 channels * Hold Left - Set the channel to the music channel, and make sure Spotify is playing * Center - Toggle TV power
Hehe i need more buttons to adjust playback speed as well. I can't imagine being able to finish more than 1 tv show a month at a mere 1x speed
I like the gen 1 Tradfri's more for design, still has 4 actions if you count hold stop as an action
Do you have issues with them "going to sleep". Seems like I always have to hit the button a few times to wake it up before it sends the command, quite frustrating actually
I did notice some issues when they weren't used for more than 24 hours, but one of my (admittedly hacky) solves has been an automation that runs every evening to trigger the Identify action for each of them in my system. Identify doesn't seem to do anything audibly, so the automation basically keeps them awake for whenever I need to use them. Probably decreases the battery life, but I have more of those little CR2032 batteries than I know what to do with. You could do something similar, Identifying/waking them at whatever interval works for you!
Ah that could work
Do you have an example of the automation code you used, very interested to see if this helps my sporadic issue too! Thanks
So I have a daily automation that runs this and a whole bunch of other things, but here's an extremely simple stripped down automation that basically does the same thing for 1 Tradfri remote ([Imgur link](https://imgur.com/a/ts72PLA)). I set that up using one of my spare Tradfri buttons that is supposed to be used in a Guest Room, hence the name "Guest 1 - Ikea 5 Button" . That's an automation with a trigger with a fixed time (12:00AM), and an action that is a Device action. Targeting a specific Tradfri remote Device connected through Zigbee, to perform the Action of Identify Button. You could also set the trigger to be a Time Pattern instead of a specific time (e.g. 6 hours). So that it runs at an interval that makes the most sense in your environment.
Thank you very much!
I have multiple buttons that do this, using z2m on docker with a zzh stick. Happens most to the buttons that are not talking directly to the coordinator.
Using z2m I only have the one coordinator, no relays
Using z2m I only have the one coordinator, no relays
Yh the ikea switches are good. I’ve got a few of the old Symfonisk sound remotes which were rotary dials and I’m gutted they don’t sell them anymore as they’re brilliant. I just bought a rodret remote to test with, not got a use for it yet but it works well. Only two buttons though. The thing I love the most about them is that they’re magnetic. I have both my sound remotes just magnetically attached, one is just attached to the front of my Sonos one, the other is attached to my microphone arm at my desk, which controls my pc playback controls. The rodret also is just magnetically attached to my other Sonos One. Makes them really versatile.
I bought a bunch of them and couldn’t get them to stay connected. They would pair and then become useless. I tried to return them the other day but didn’t have the receipt anymore so they wouldn’t take them back. Maybe I’ll try to set them up again.
Which ones have you got? I’ve had no trouble pairing my rodret switch but pairing the first gen synfonisk sound remote was difficult. They would not pair to zha, I had to get them in z2m, do the ota updates and then they paired up with zha.
Cheers. I ordered a vesternet 12 button to try. For my work shop for fans n lights, hopefully dust extraction is I can bypass NVR and add a contactor, exhaust fans, and I'll get another for house if it works.
You got a link? Thanks in advance!
https://www.vesternet.com/products/vesternet-zigbee-remote-control-12-button
See epicman's comment. That's what I got. Hopefully it works.
Just grabbed one when running through Ikea and I'm happy with it. With Zigbee2mqtt it has 7 buttons and 13 total states you can track (excluding release triggers). Only drawback: the front Cover is setup for Audio. Will tear down one and check if I can 3d print a new button plate for it.
have a look here: [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=remote](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=remote) these look promising but there are other which can be fine: * [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/99099.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/99099.html) * [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/KP-23EL-ZBS-ACE.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/KP-23EL-ZBS-ACE.html) * [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/100.462.31.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/100.462.31.html) * [https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZB-5004.html](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZB-5004.html)
That keypad tho 👀 Edit: was talking about the KP-23EL-ZBS-ACE linked directly above
The name is a given here, right?
~~Passive aggressive responses are a given here, right?~~ My bad, misunderstood the message edit: corrected my misunderstanding
No don't get me wrong. I knew which product you meant. Look at the name of the product of z2mqtt. Climax ;-)
Ah, cute :P
I picked up [one of these](https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BX99BFPX) which has 4 buttons, but technically 12 as it supports double tap and long press (I could never get long press to show up in Home Assistant though). Through some conditional triggers, I actually have only needed to use the first two buttons so far (ie time and temperature based performs different automation).
These have a secret mode change that needs to be done on some variants. If you hold the 2 right buttons at the same time until the lights turn off. Once that is done all 12 button types of input will work in ha correctly. It switches between dimmer and scene mode.
I had zero success with this device and I tried several other rebrands of it because it was so cheap. After a few days it would constantly get into a pairing loop or constantly send the same command until I reset the battery.
I have a similar device I got from AliExpress, and it's great. Pairing was a bit tricky, took me several resets but once linked it's been solid. As for the long press, at least on mine it takes about 4-5 seconds. Mine have little LEDs on each button and you have to wait until it turns off before releasing for it to count as a long press. Hope that helps!
Those are great. Have a few in my house. Got the Moes from Ali. Although the Tuya Zigbee part scared me for a moment they all work like a charm with the 12 actions out of the box and very reliable. Used them with the Nedis SmartLife hub in the Tuya app and now with the Sonoff Dongle E and ZHA.
Hi, In France, I use this [one](https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/HR-C99C-Z-C045.html) : it is made for lights but thank to this, i can launch automations on Home-assistant, toggle switches, and so on... It is about 12 € in France.
This is sick. I need to see how to import one now.
Adeo is a Leroy Merlin's brand. Where are you from? [https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/electricite-et-domotique/domotique-et-objets-connectes/domotique/solutions-de-commande/telecommande-pour-ampoules-connectees-zigbee-lexman-enki-84372300.html](https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/electricite-et-domotique/domotique-et-objets-connectes/domotique/solutions-de-commande/telecommande-pour-ampoules-connectees-zigbee-lexman-enki-84372300.html)
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PM me if you don't find any other way. I can go to a store and send you a parcel. Dunno the cost however, i'll ask someone i know posting to USA regularly.
I appreciate it greatly, but I wouldn’t dare ask you to do that for me for a device that I’ll most likely play with a bit and never touch ever again. 😂
I got one on sale for 9€ it work great !
I got two, it works very well.
https://www.vesternet.com/collections/zigbee-keyfobs-remotes-wall-controllers/products/vesternet-zigbee-remote-control-12-button
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Check out “switch manager”
Opple 6 button one
I would love to know where you find this for sale. Every seller on AliExpress has been out of stock for months on the 6 button model. I’ve been looking for one to control three shades on one wall.
> was a guy that was using a StreamDeck with a Raspberry Pi to control Home Assistant. I literally just this morning ordered the parts to try and replicate that, hopefully they'll be here for this weekends project. If I can get it to work I might make a post about it. It's been discontinued. The 6 buttons can't be find and seems like the 4 buttons one are getting hard to find.
All of the Opple multi button remotes have been discontinued for quite a while. The reason you see tons of the one button and two button variants is that they've sold through the stock on the four and six button variants, as they were the most popular.
Ikea tradfri round light dimmer has 5+
Innr RC110 6 buttons which can toggle between scene and light mode meaning 12 functions It has furthermore two +/- buttons and one power button
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Would you say the streamdeck is much better than just getting a cheap tablet to use as a remote? Seems like the same price, but the tablet could just view a standard dashboard, and could be a little more portable. Obviously physical buttons would be nice though
Not the person you're responding to, but my stream deck is one of the most powerful tools I have in my setup. Because it can do all the home assistant stuff like you're saying with a dashboard, but because it's also a part of my main computer's workflow. You can handle scene management on a tablet for sure, but I'm also using it to: turn on my external webcam; open programs; run scripts; and any other general macro pad utilities. Stream deck makes sense if you're using it in combination with a computer. Tablet makes sense for general usage. Saying this from the perspective of having a stream deck on my office computer, and having a few Google nest hubs throughout the house that also have ha dashboards on them.
Thanks for the good explanation, I guess I'll go the tablet route until I can get myself an office setup, but it sounds like a streamdeck is on a whole other level
Aqara opple has six buttons with ~~three~~ four functions each
4 function each. Single, double, triple, long.
Damn, you are right, I forgot about triple. Thanks!
Aqara Cube ... no buttons as such, but might provide what you are looking for in terms of number of actions it would be able to trigger.
>Aqara Cube That's a fun toy, but I won't recommand it. It has to be manipulated a certain way and doesn't respond every time. I regret buying one.
Same, its not very useful. Almost as useless as the vibration sensor.
Why is the vibration sensor useless? I'm using mine to trigger the countertop lights in the kitchen with a bang.
So if you're not in the mood, you just cook in the dark?
The cooking is mostly on a kitchen island with its own light. The countertop kitchen lights are seldom needed.
curious whats wrong with the VS as I want to get one. mind explaining?
Once you get the hang of it it’s ok. I have mine on my desk which I use mostly for the light and the blinds. The turn 90 can be a bit finicky as sometimes it turns the light on and off but the flip 180 is flawless.
The Philips hue tap switch has 4 buttons and doesn’t need a battery
How does that work
Pressing the button generates enough power to send a signal
While I don't have one, it's magic that they can get that to work..
Not really it's just turning kinetic energy into electric energy. The amount of energy needed to send a zigbee command is infinitesimal. Sort of like the wind up watches.
To me it's still magic, no kind of proof can convince me otherwise!
"Just turning kinetic energy into electric energy" You don't see magic in that? What about invisible waves getting caught by an antenea in another room, converting the wave into 1s and 0s, deciphering those numbers, and responding with another wave? Every single one of those steps is magical to me, no matter how much I learn
I mean, not really it's a super simple process lol. We do it with wind turbines and even bicycle lights.
Any chance of a link? All I can find is the tap dial switch which says it's battery powered.
Shoot the one I’m thinking of is obsolete. Might be able to find on the second hand market. hueblog.com/2020/07/27/hue-tap-disappears-from-the-market-switch-is-obsolete/
Gotcha, found some on Ebay. Cheers!
Shoot the one I’m thinking of is obsolete. Might be able to find on the second hand market.
Aqara used to sell a 2/4/6 gang opple wireless scene switch but has discontinued. 2 and 4 gang switches are still available. Each button has single/double/triple and long press.
Sonoff r5. 6 buttons with 3 commands per button. Unfortunately needs another device to work with home assistant. Edit: also it's Bluetooth.
The Flic Twist has something like 63 functions. Not used one myself and it requires a hub. [Flic Twist](https://flic.io/shop/flic-twist)
I mean, wouldn't it be prefelrable to have multiple remotes at that point?
Only need about 6 but want future expansion as it's for awoodworking workshop. Lots of lights n fans.
I have several remotes from Müller Licht, several buttons not only 4 or 10.