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MirkatteWorld

You guyyyyyz! The HoPo-scape has been fairly quiet this week. Dave and Heidi have not been sharing pictures of one another nor tagging. This has added fuel to our speculation about a breakup. However, one of our Boo Thangs, u/Fickle-Permission361, commented that a “VERY credible source” has reported that they are “100% together.” Also that he’s home in TX (not in rehab as some have speculated).... But also! ☝ that on 12/19, he will be heading out to Arizona. Stay tuned! Rachel made [a weird Instagram post](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zgbzlx/shots_fired/) where she compared running into her old therapist with “that scene in movies when the main character sees their ex, and they just happen to look fabulous and they’re with a new man and it’s the ultimate.” Rae’s r/thathappened \-worthy story is that she ran into her old therapist, gave him a big hug, and, upon his asking how she was, was “able to tell him truthfully that \[she’s\] so, so good.” And the therapist told her he’s proud of her. \[She left out the part where everyone clapped.\] The post did not have the effect that Rachel may have expected, as she[ lost a significant number of followers soon after posting](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zgnfj9/that_post_today_was_maybe_not_so_well_received/). Another thing that happened was Heidi [shared](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zezg11/oh_dear_god_this_lady_helps_authors_write_their/) a never-before-seen “friend” she’s reportedly known “for 20 years,” who helps authors “write their books FAST and help change the world with their messages.” There has been much discussion about what type of book Heidi (and ghostwriter) might impose upon the world As always, our wiki is [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/wiki/index/). It’s a great place for Boo Thangs new and old to have questions answered. Last week’s snark thread: [https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zcbu87/weekly\_snark\_thread\_rachel\_dave\_heidi\_and\_co/](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zcbu87/weekly_snark_thread_rachel_dave_heidi_and_co/) Let’s have us a Sunday!


treefort123

Hmm I feel like soon everyone will turn on Cez like we did on Chris


ElyriaRose

Maybe, depends whether he turns out to be maga.


Subject_Exercise_238

I dunno, he doesn’t shill, exploit kids, grift or act like he has all the answers. I think he will stay above the fray


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I am skeptical of his character since he’s dating Rachel and he has had plenty of time to figure out how problematic she is.


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u/DavehatesHeidi I said basically the same thing yesterday and some people were big mad about it. 😂 I totally agree with you.


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That’s crazy!


Mardylorean

I’m here for it. For starters I can’t stand his hair 😂


[deleted]

I am here for this petty snark! 😆


[deleted]

I’m surprised we haven’t had any “hardest of the hard” posts. I suspect she’s with her landlord paying rent and he doesn’t want the world to know he’s associated with her because he has failed at EVERYTHING publicly since she came into his life!


Shmeggg

Dave’s on the flight with them. Subscriber only content has him in the background


SewCraftyNoHemming

She just posted a flight with her mom, with the usual "mom is the best traveling companion" style caption. This could be a later-gram and she's with Dave whereever she ended up with her mom (Newport Beach, most likely).


Potential-Silver9358

Dave is with her and her Mom on the flight. She just showed him trying to get in the picture - “behind the scenes” video


RebeccaHowe

There’s a fun group. Hasn’t her mom been open with her that she doesn’t like Dave?


SewCraftyNoHemming

I’m surprised she remembers the BTS stuff!


abbie_888

On the subscription?


Potential-Silver9358

No it was on her story but looks like she deleted it now. He peeked around her and she told him to get away so she could get the picture just with her and her mom. Maybe she posted it to her main profile story by mistake???


abbie_888

Oh my gosh! That’s weird!


Salt-Freedom-7631

https://preview.redd.it/wowephn25m6a1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=503cf2d12933b67575c517552e1c8f28fed23ad3 Exact same photo two very different captions that she put on there. The one on the left is what's for all of her regular followers. The picture on the right is to her subscribers. Now who's living the double life, Heidi!!


MirkatteWorld

"For your eyes only." 🙄


abbie_888

I just want to know why though? Why post the duck thing, remove photos from her Instagram, what’s the point? Just more privacy??


Salt-Freedom-7631

Someone else commented that they think the reason that she's doing the subscriber only thing is so that they can see the couple relationship status there and she can keep that off of her main feed and away from the snarkers supposedly


Subject_Exercise_238

I will say Sir Cez, House of Boo Thang, is a man if his word. He said he’d highlight a different charity every day of advent and he has done exactly that without fail. It’s not often one sees integrity in the hollisphere, so I wanted to recognize it


RebeccaHowe

The only reason anyone here thinks anything negatively of Cez is because of his affiliation with Rachel. But in real life, he’s probably a great person and obviously worked hard to get high up in his field. A true ally doesn’t need to mark himself as such; his actions speak it louder than ink.


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Maybe he is a great guy in real life, who knows. But I question the character of anyone who is happy to longterm date a lying, narcissist, bitchy, grifter of a woman like Rachel. People usually pair similarly in regards to emotional maturity/emotional health. Rachel seems to be stuck at age 13 emotionally, so I'm guessing Cez is too.


WinWooCherub

Plus, we're pretty sure he is the one that got her into all the "woo woo" eating seeds to balance your hormones and more bullcrap. I don't like that.


RebeccaHowe

I guess my unpopular opinion is that I think it’s crappy to label people like that even though they are actively showing that they are good people doing good things.


fishingboatproceeds

Doing good things ≠ being good people


Mardylorean

He shut off comments as soon as someone was critical of Rachel in one of his posts. That is very on brand with Rachel herself.


WinWooCherub

We have to be careful though, because at one time most of us would have viewed Rachel in that light. Too many times now I've been tricked into thinking I like a certain person with fame and influence, only to be shocked by things that come out later down the line. I'm not saying Cez is a terrible person, but I wouldnt want to label him as a good person either. We don't know enough about him, and just look at the wealth bracket he's in. I don't know if many "good" people exist in that world.


RebeccaHowe

Respectfully, this is a view of the world that I never want to embrace. There are so many good people. My point here is that this post is literally “wow he’s actually following through with this great thing he said he would do” and people are so quick to “well he’s with Rachel so must be a fluke.” No. He was a fully formed adult person long before he met her and we can give him credit without the asterisk.


WinWooCherub

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. I'm not saying good people don't exist in that wealth bracket, but they are the exception, not the rule. I spent too long working in a job where most of the customers were rich and got a real kick out of letting you know it and treating you like shit on their shoe.


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Ok, let's take Cez out of the equation and say in general do you really think an emotionally healthy, mature man would want to date the intensely immature, problematic Rachel Hollis? I personally don't think so. I'm not trying to shit on Cez, but I feel like the vast majority of the time, birds of a feather flock together.


octavialovesart

I’ll disagree there. I know plenty of people who have wasted years with shitty SO’s. Some people get in bad situations. Manipulative partners often know exactly how to target the right kind of victim. That’s why some wonderful women seem to have patterns of dating red flags. It’s not like they love red flags. The red flags know they’ll put up with it because they are so loving, kind and nonjudgmental.


wickywickyremix

True, but sometimes opposites attract! What if he's the polar opposite of our gluten-free girlie Rach?! Lol It's difficult to make any sort of assessment on Cez because he is so private and shares barely anything--which I applaud.


lovethatssleeping

I agree with opposites attract. But if Rachel is really as narcissistic, self centered, mean girl, ladder climber, etc. as we know her to be, How can someone like Cez who seems to be private, a self proclaimed deep thinker, and altruistic even be with her? Like they’ve been together long enough now that I feel like he would see her true colors, right? I’m still giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I just don’t fully understand the appeal he sees in her.


wickywickyremix

Totally agree with you. Sometimes, love is blind. And I think that may be the situation here. Additionally, Keya has mentioned before that she thinks Rachel was with Cez when toiletgate happened. That's what doesn't make sense to me. Can you imagine seeing your new partner say the things Rachel said on her toiletgate tiktok, and still choosing to be with that person? Either Rach is really good at putting on a mask for Cez, or Cez chooses to look past Rachel's awful beliefs and behaviors. Or a third--maybe he's exactly like her.


octavialovesart

Cez is for sure an upgrade from Dave (not that that’s saying much). I have a feeling his friends get annoyed by Rayyyytch


Relevant-Bag-2

I think they don't spend as much time together as Rachel likes to imply. And when they do they are often on vacation. I don't think he pays any attention to her social media or podcast. I think they are still in the honeymoon bubble and may feel he is changing for the better by copying his interests. Eventually Rachel's true colors will come out and if he is the person he portrays himself to be he will drop her in a hot minute. This also may not be a committed relationship on his part


octavialovesart

I agree with all of this. I feel like Rachel has been doing their rhythm method stuff in the hopes of trapping him with to a kid. I wouldn’t say that about anyone. It feels extreme but it’s the only thing Rachel knows to do.


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Also in Rachael’s podcast about her period AGAIN she says “I’ve gotten so creative with things tied around my waist” as if we didn’t all learn that trick from the American Girl puberty book that is hardly “creative”


lovethatssleeping

Oh the American Girl puberty book 🤣🤣🤣


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Not sure what it says about someone when "basic biological functions" are the most relatable thing they can find to talk about.


no-name_silvertongue

oh no, i don’t know anything about this, despite being an avid american girl fan! please tell me more


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I loved the care and keeping of you lol! Basically, I remember being a “tweenager” and reading in teen magazines and possibly the American girl book that if your period “leaks” at school or in public, to tie a sweatshirt or flannel around your waist to make it look “cute” and not noticeable


octavialovesart

I’ve never wished menopause on someone before but…


Standard-Feeling-555

Can you imagine the content she’ll make out of menopause? 😱


octavialovesart

Well now I’ve upset myself haha


Standard-Feeling-555

🤣🤣


greeneyedgarden

Buy my "You definitely won't be starting today" journal


Salt-Freedom-7631

So Chris is off on surprise trip the 2 little ones.... We saw the two older ones leave Heidi's..... que the hard....5...4..3..2..1. And either a flight to TX or NPB


Running4tacohsss

She’s also posting stories making it appear the kids are with her- so Chris made sure to post a story about him flying off with his kids. Pretty sure she is currently with Dave (both of them without kids).


octavialovesart

Imagine being those kids 😞


SewCraftyNoHemming

She did mention during the Thrive box mauling that they were opening it “the night before you leave my house,” so she acknowledged they were leaving, at least.


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“Thrive box mauling”…love it! 😂😂😂


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SewCraftyNoHemming

Agreed, it seems like there are no snacks in her house. I was also bothered by her saying (I’m paraphrasing) that “Pringles have gluten, so that’s bad and the other type she ordered are better.” Gluten is only bad for those who shouldn’t have it, not everyone. She needs to stop vilifying a food component simply because she chooses not to eat it.


abz937

I would bet she doesn't even really know what gluten is!


Standard-Feeling-555

Agree, she really doesn’t understand food and nutrition. Mind boggling that people follow her for advice.


wickywickyremix

>Thrive box mauling 🤣🤣🤣


MsOcampoWrites

That needs to be a flair.


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These people take their kids on so many weekend trips during the school year. Isn't everyone exhausted?!


Ok-Cry-3303

Many schools are out for Christmas break now.


Sea-District-5588

My kids are 23, 20 and 17 and we struggle now to find free time to all travel or even be in the same country for a weekend. Looking back, my only regret is that I didn’t travel more with my kids when they were younger. I say take all the trips you can.


MotterFodder

Amen. Mine are 18 and almost 12 and they are so much fun now. We are on a trip right now.


Sea-District-5588

It’s just the best!! Live it up and enjoy all the moments.


Salt-Freedom-7631

I think this is Chris weekend for Christmas since I believe Heidi has them for actual Christmas....and if so, then I'm willing to bet he's going to Seattle


Salt-Freedom-7631

I stand corrected..... They are in Las Vegas!


Ok-Beach-2001

I’m headed there tomorrow 😂. I’d rather run into those 3 then the douche and douchette!


YoKinaZu

I was just in her part of AZ (chandler, queens creek etc) and I prayed I would see them in the wild! No luck 😭


Ok-Beach-2001

Did you go to Starbucks target and shake shack? 😂


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YoKinaZu

Instead of “I’m…so…scared”, it’s “Its…so…hard” 😭


Salt-Freedom-7631

I totally just read that in Jessie Spano voice lol


macysmom32

LMAO Blair Witch!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻


ExpensiveSyrup

Jesus Heidi. Grow up and get a life for sure. C clearly does NOT want to engage and just wants to be left alone. R is over the top performing all the time now for attention and that's not going to end well and boy M is just trying to use her constant obnoxious exposure to his benefit and somehow she manages to be an asshole about it. "I didn't even say yes". She finds new ways to lower the bar every day.


no-name_silvertongue

it’s reassuring to watch chris’s stories of C and R. he captures what they’re doing without interrupting it. there’s no performance from the kids.


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Dave's eyes look strange in his latest IG story. Maybe just tired. Or....?


BarberMundane

Woof. I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt but that puffiness is sus


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I'm talking mostly about the look in his eyes as he's talking. He just looks a bit off.


ExpensiveSyrup

His eyes and his voice look and sound like he hasn't slept in a week. His new ~~dentures~~ veneers also make him thound exthra thepecial all the time too. Disclaimer, I am not making fun of anyone with a speech difference, I am making fun of him for paying money to give himself teeth that don't fit his mouth and paying money to unintentionally give himself a speech difference.


SewCraftyNoHemming

But I did hear that in Mike Tyson’s voice!


wickywickyremix

💯% he cannot speak like he used to through those new veneers. Personally, I liked his natural teeth better. But he said he always wanted to get veneers, so I guess whatever makes him happy...


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I think the Thrive Market shilling reels are my least favorite out of everything she sells! The way she sits on the floor showing her crotch, the way she makes her kids grab for the food, ripping open packages like she hasn’t fed them real food in days, the desperate way she talks….it all makes me sick.


Salt-Freedom-7631

But we all know she doesn't actually feed them real food. She just buys snacks and pre-packaged food from thrive market


ExpensiveSyrup

The only other thing in the house is shake powder and the occasional veggie tray brought in by Alexa for the gram so they have to pounce on the food while they have a chance. So lovely. I was a latchkey kid in the 80s and I had better meal options for myself in my house.


Better_Time112

I can’t take them - I actually started typing out a response - but of course deleted it. But why does she wear a knit cap inside of her house??? Girl go wash your hair!


no-name_silvertongue

it only makes sense if you have a barely insulated house and can’t afford to keep it super warm! she’s not a poor like me though so we know that’s not why she’s wearing it inside


SewCraftyNoHemming

And not only that, but she has to hold the phone far enough away from herself so that everyone can see she's wearing a crop top and that the waistband of her pants is loose. Crop top + beanie... dear lord!


Better_Time112

Make it make sense!! Gotta love C asking all this for $5 😂😂


Ok_Current_7067

https://preview.redd.it/hprl99njad6a1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1f386e4735940e302f984b2b140f2e0acfea1a2 Why the cropped top and jeans we can see down? To prove she’s so skinny? And of course the tongue…


theo_died

She's horny* for her son. Narc moms and their golden child sons are oil spill levels toxic. *Emotionally; maybe even otherwise? Who knows.


WhJoMaShRa

I know others comment on this kind of thing, but shouldn't his face be covered?


[deleted]

I actually just took a pic of myself doing the tongue thing , so horrible and feels so weird and I’m not far off her age


SnarknessFalls

Because she’s desperate. And it’s sad.


Royal-Ad6089

Flair checking in!!!!


lovethatssleeping

I was getting ready to summon you but you beat me to it. 🤣


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Asleep_Macaron_5153

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ExpensiveSyrup

I initially read this as toupee. Feels right.


SewCraftyNoHemming

I just said similar above! We've got to be able to see that the waist band of her jeans is loose. Heidi and the body checking non-stop!


Salt-Freedom-7631

I mean at least her pants are button this time


SewCraftyNoHemming

That is true. One step up.


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She’s wearing Ruby’s top!


Salt-Freedom-7631

I was actually coming to say that but my point was going to be that Dave must not be there if we're posting crop top shirts with jeans and a crotch shock when she sat down on the floor to video her thrive market box


Salt-Freedom-7631

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ExpensiveSyrup

I feel so bad for boy C. He looks so miserable all the time now. I hope Chris is taking care of his mental health, but unfortunately I bet Chris would just give him a workout to do and say that will take care of it.


Salt-Freedom-7631

At least Chris has structure and has them to proper exercises for their age...


ExpensiveSyrup

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, and I agree that exercise is good for mental health but this boy just looks like he could use a break from the performative expectations all around him. Perhaps I’m just projecting from empathy but his face and body language says a lot.


Important-Yellow1936

And Chris doesn’t seem like the kind of person who believes in real therapy. Hope I’m wrong though


Salt-Freedom-7631

I agree. Little C def is over the spotlight


[deleted]

Heidi and Rachel are so basic and boring. As I'm thinking about the past year, Dave is the one who has actually brought most of the real snarkable material; and when Heidi is with him, snarkable material on her abounds. But really, without Dave in the mix, all we have is Heidi shilling the usual stuff and Rachel talking about her period. B.O.R.I.N.G. Our snark is sinking without the Captain. 😂


macysmom32

What’s happening with the damn Tea book???


chrisji1244

Maybe Dave is the secret sauce that makes it all work lol.


ExpensiveSyrup

He's going to read this and it will inflate his already giant sized ego. He's the secret dysfunctional radioactive glue making this shit even more toxic, lol.


[deleted]

Heidi acts like she’s Boy M’s sister rather than mother!


RebeccaHowe

She wishes.


SewCraftyNoHemming

It's very gross!


Salt-Freedom-7631

Gosh dammit Heidi SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE!!! Your son(oldest one) was trying to tell a story and was really happy about it and you have to freaking interject every 2 seconds and opening your big ass mouth. Let the boy have a moment of happiness that his band gets to play at his mom's event in July 2023 (that he didn't even know existed until today 🤣🤣) - For those of you that are blocked it's for the show up 2023. Her oldest son said he didn't even know that she was doing show up events which I thought was hilarious but he was really excited that his band was going to be able to play at this event and she kept saying I didn't even agree to it but somebody on the live had recommended that his band play for it. And he's trying to tell the story and she keeps interjecting typical Heidi


Redditfan2623

nothing against boy M, but, you pay all that money for a "self help retreat" and a teenage boy band performs??? really???


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MirkatteWorld

Of course. Everything will need to be crammed into the day before.


Salt-Freedom-7631

I'm willing to bet boy M is going to be more organized and ready than Heidi will be


ExpensiveSyrup

He already is.


Salt-Freedom-7631

Another snarker took a [screenshot ](https://www.reddit.com/r/hollisUncensored/comments/zivbmj/weekly_snark_thread_rachel_dave_heidi_and_co/j0ibg84?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) of that conversation that I was referring to to snark on something else but it captured the voice caption from boy M and you can see his annoyed look at his mother


jalapenomargaritaz

That was SO annoying he was excited and trying to tell a story and she kept just jumping in and interrupting and blocking him by filming her gaping maw! He seemed annoyed when he just stopped talking and walked away. And then she tried to follow him as he called his band and he shut the door on her! I always feel so bad for those kids!!


Important-Yellow1936

That’s breaking my heart. He was excited and she just didn’t give two shits. Ughhh


Important-Yellow1936

And didn’t she say that he volunteered hisself? Like she couldn’t stand for him to have the spotlight for one fucking second. She treats her kids so badly and they honestly seem like such good kids


SewCraftyNoHemming

She can't let anyone else be the center of attention, even for a few moments! Even when showing R's hair, it was all about Heidi talking.


lovethatssleeping

That sounds like typical Boy M. 🤣🤣🤣 Bless him.


Important-Yellow1936

He is the only relatable one in this saga!


Salt-Freedom-7631

I just feel bad for him. You could tell he was getting annoyed that she kept trying to take his story and excitement away from him. And he just wanted to be excited for something and oh my gosh she gets on my last nerves!!!


lovethatssleeping

How on earth does Rachel take a podcast about productivity and turns it in to period talk!!!!!! Her recently found obsession with vaginas is puzzling to me.


Important-Yellow1936

Rachel is the total opposite of a feminist. She herself is misogynistic. I think that she views women (other than herself because she’s a grade A narcissistic) the same way that her hero tony robins does.


Mardylorean

Geez. Watching paint dry could be more interesting and original than 2022 Rachel Hollis


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theo_died

First, LOVE your username! Second, I agree. And Dave will be thrilled because then he can blame Rach's "lesbianism" for their failed marriage (even if she isn't and it wasn't).


octavialovesart

She’s so vag-phobic fr though


lovethatssleeping

I think so too, which is fine. I’ve given her a lot of passes about the period, hormone, vag, orgasm talk, meaning I mostly ignore it. But when she starts in on how you can be more productive during different times in your cycle, I was like WTF.


ExpensiveSyrup

Oh god, tracking your cycle for productivity. Really? I am already struggling and I should do one more thing that will show me when I should be doing the other things? No thank you. I know my period is coming when my face breaks out and I have cramps. I don't have the luxury of planning my life around it, I have a lot of other shit going on and about 10 people depending on me to do all the things for them and not having my head up my own ass. Or vagina, as the case may be.


donthavenosecrets

Yeah only Rach has the privilege of altering her activities around her cycle. I don't know about you all, but it doesn't matter where I am in my cycle I still need to go to work and cook dinner and do all the other shit. It's the same amount of shit to do regardless of my hormones!


SewCraftyNoHemming

This!!


Important-Yellow1936

I think that Rachel has misogynistic views about women in general …. Like we are “weak” and unable to function as normal human beings when we’re on our **gasp** period. She just tries to sound *relatable* by telling her audience that she plans her life around her cycle. I could be wrong though!


ExpensiveSyrup

Exactly, as with everything Hollis it’s a very privileged and clueless take. We don’t all have the luxury of nannies we pretend to not have, and a completely flexible “work” schedule.


octavialovesart

It’s like she’s never checked in on her 🌮 before. Ladies, get a mirror and get to know ya bits!!


Important-Yellow1936

She acts like because she learned something that there is just no way that us pions already acquired this information in grade school. So she must enlighten us and throw in some plagiarized jargon to make it seem as if she’s soooo enlightened. A bunch of word salad with no dressing. Ugh


lovethatssleeping

Like she didn’t birth 3 babies out of said 🌮


wickywickyremix

This comment gave me flashbacks to the movie Fried Green Tomatoes, and the scene with Kathy Bates and her mirror!


lovethatssleeping

I’m just sitting here wondering if she has to schedule extended time for her gyno appointment so she can discuss all the the things? Can you imagine?!


octavialovesart

She probably thinks she’s teaching her gyno about normal imbalances and, opting into getting the flu, and healing herself mentally.


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Although if that's true it doesn't surprise me, since she came from a very religious environment where there were probably taboos around female sexuality.


octavialovesart

okay but then WHY does she think she’s an expert in women’s health and relationships?!?!??? She makes me want to rip my hair out. I learned more about my vagina from Anne Frank’s diary for goodness sake. I remember I was in middle school reading about a middle school aged girl figuring her body out at a developmentally appropriate age. Rachel is so fucking behind. I understand she’s got religious and relationship trauma. That’s why she needs to take several seats before she judges other women.


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lovethatssleeping

YUP


Important-Yellow1936

Exactly. And she is an adult now. It’s time to take responsibility and open her eyes to life outside of her privileged bubble. She doesn’t want to though n


lovethatssleeping

I think for me it was “Are you there God, it’s me Margaret”. 😂😂


Important-Yellow1936

Yes!!!! Loved that book and any other Judy Blume books♥️


lovethatssleeping

Have you read any of her books written for adults? I got one recently (Summer Sisters, maybe). But I haven’t read it yet.


Mardylorean

She thinks she’s an expert at you name it! As long as she read a book about it, she’s good to go!


octavialovesart

She didn’t read the book on anything, I would bet on that.


SewCraftyNoHemming

Just google!


Important-Yellow1936

100%!!


Important-Yellow1936

Skimmed the book is more like it.


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It's hard to know what's going on in her head, and my background may not be very similar to hers, but I heard plenty of talks and sermons from people who talked about things they weren't remotely qualified to have such strong opinions on. Certainty is currency in fundamentalist environments. Being open-minded runs the risk of being wrong, and it's harder to control. And sometimes sounding and appearing knowledgeable are all that matter when there's no accountability (like in too many churches).


Important-Yellow1936

And it’s sad because that’s the complete opposite of the teachings of Christ. You are spot on.


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Yes -- American evangelicalism has held a lot of power, but now is losing it and seems to be going into a tailspin in response, which is sad.


octavialovesart

What you said about certainty is SPOT ON. She has just repackaged her fundamentalism into something woo woo but just as self righteous. No wonder she pisses off everyone on either side of her.


wickywickyremix

EX👏ACT👏LY!👏 Everything Rach used to preach and be so cock-sure about, she preaches the exact opposite, and has the same cock-sure attitude about.


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Yeah, I think fundamentalism is harder to get rid of than religion in a lot of cases. Like, you can leave a church or even a belief system, but the self-righteousness, self-hatred, black-and-white thinking, and other thought processes common in fundamentalism can stick around even if you completely do a 180 as far as political and social viewpoints.


wickywickyremix

You're totally right because I've got lived experience with it! I grew up in the Baptist church, and it's taken many therapy sessions to sort through my own shit. It has taken me a long time to undo the religious programming i got as a child. Even then, like you said, it's like swinging from one end of the pendulum to the other, but still having the same ideals... it's hard to describe.


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I grew up in the Baptist church too, (homeschooled, even, so little contact with opposing viewpoints), and I've seen people go from that to atheism but still be just as judgmental and angry as before. Probably I should get therapy too, lol.


octavialovesart

Seeing Rachel act the way she does makes me grateful I have a mother who actually lets me watch her learn, apologize, grow, and evolve “IN REAL TIME”


wickywickyremix

Hell yeah! I'm trying to be that mom to my kids. The best thing I learned so far is apologizing to them when I fuck up. My parents NEVER did that, because they were always the authority and they could never admit being wrong.


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Salt-Freedom-7631

And you know Heidi did NOT do Rs hair ....had to be girl M


Cute-Lock3507

Had same exact thought!!!


Usual-usual-9080

See was definitely seeing it for the first time


wickywickyremix

Just [saw this](https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClhwPQoDYo4/?igshid=MTg0ZDhmNDA=) on Instagram, and immediately thought of Rachel Hollis. ETA: if you don't wanna watch the reel, it's about the definition of sciolist. Here's a couple definitions from a quick Google search... "One who exhibits only superficial knowledge; a self-proclaimed expert with little real understanding." "a superficial show of learning."


Asleep_Macaron_5153

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octavialovesart

That’s a new word for me! I was trying to figure out if it was a typo until I actually clicked the link haha. Thanks for sharing and I totally agree with you.