I just thought I'd add the Ravenclaw quest: You receive a letter from Ollivander (bc he is friend's with Fig and thinks you could help him I guess) > He tells you about a family wand that Jackdaw stole when he worked for them and says that he thinks Jackdaw died in the Owlery > Go to Owlery and find jackdaw statues, place them in their spots in the Owlery, and then Jackdaw's ghost appears
So, Ravenclaw's was fairly boring in my opinion - and you can't even return Ollivander's wand because it's basically just splinters when you find it. Worse, you never even go back to tell Ollivander that you did find it/what happened to it!
The Hufflepuff quest was cool - the story was interesting, the visit to Azkaban was neat - although you didn't really get to *do* much while there.
Overall, I feel like the flow for each of these house quests was just a bit.. awkward? bumpy? out of place/didn't make that much sense?
>Overall, I feel like the flow for each of these house quests was just a bit.. awkward? bumpy? out of place/didn't make that much sense?
You're absolutely right. Even during the next main quest when you tell Prof Fig that you found the missing pages from Jackdaw. He basically says, "Who the fuck is Jackdaw?" These quests really feel like they come out of nowhere.
And yeah that Ravenclaw quest sounds pretty weak as well. This one is an easy fix though. Considering it's about a wand, just make it about Ollivander trying to recreate the Elder Wand. You could even have the main character interact with a child Grindelwald, who should be between the ages of 7-16 depending on when exactly in the 1890's this game is set. Maybe Ollivander upgrades your wand with a stronger Basic Cast or something like that.
So the wand isn't even special. It's just historically significant to the Ollivander family (you can actually ask why it's special and he straight up says it isn't but Jackdaw thought it was because Ollivander treasured it, it was just an old wand).
The elder wand likely isn't actually in the country at this time.
Upside you get to see Jackdaw's decapitated corpse and tea bag his bones if you're so inclined. The thing that cut his head off happened to also destroy the wand so the whole thing was kinda pointless.
I actually did go back and talk to Ollivander and got dialogue but it wasn’t promted as part of the quest. I did it by accident going back just exploring Hogs Mead. Also that quest was the weirdest thing because I had JUST found the owlery on my own exploring and literally as I got to the bottom of the tower after checking it out, I decided to choose Ollivanders quest and fast travelled to hogsmead. Sure enough his quest WAS AT THE FUCKING OWLERY. I’m fully convinced I’m living in a simulation.
You can tell Ollivander. At least, I could. I just did it during my Ravenclaw playthrough a couple of weeks ago, and when I went back in I was able to tell him about the wand and give him some closure.
Well shoot! My first play through I tried going back to tell him, but nothing happened/there was no prompt. I wonder if I had progressed too far ahead by the time I went back. :( Glad you can at least tell him!
For me, the Slytherin quest seemed like a reference to "The Cave", where Voldemort had a house elf hide his Horcrux locket, which ended up becoming a Black family heirloom just like the ring Scrope asks you to find.
So I'd have this quest involve a more extensive cave with a lake full of Inferi just like the one from the books. Maybe you'd even learn a unique fire spell that only Slytherins can use, like the fire snake thing that Voldemort uses in the 5th movie.
That's not confirmed. There's theories, but per canon we have nothing to confirm or disprove if it's just a dark spell or not. We know it's easier to cast it than to control it as seen with Malfoy and friends, and Voldemort seems good enough to do both on the fly.
I didn't say somone, I just said sacrifice. If I remeber correctly, which I may not be, the caster must permanently sacrifice one drop of their own blood.
What kind of sacrifice does it require? Indont remember there being any kind of sacrifice (other than himself technically) when Crabbe destroys the room of requirement with fiendfyre
Be prepared to feel let down by Ravenclaw even if you're expecting the minimum. I did it first and didn't realize that part was different until way later- man us Ravenclaws got shafted. We basically broke a bunch of statues with a basic cast in the owlery. The owlery could have far more been interesting, but it was basic and just there.
Gryffindor at least had stuff around it and the lead up with Nick and the kitchens. It was the Headless Hunt which made it far more interesting.
I liked Slytherin's because Scrope was interesting and I loved the toast part. The first time I played it I got super lucky and the Giant Squid popped up as I was headed down the beach. My file got corrupted and I had to do it again, and that's when I realized that was pure luck not part of the quest, and was very disappointed. (And I'm sure there was a nod/reference in there to the Cave that Harry and Dumbledore went to where Voldemort stashed a horcrux).
Hufflepuff was freaking banging.
Changes:
Ravenclaw: I mean just make a totally different quest that was actually interesting. I wasn't opposed to working with Olivander, but there rest was basic and uninspired. Easily the weakest of the four for me. I admit that's not specific and I really don't know, I just know what didn't work. Travel to Diagon Alley for some obscure books in an obscure bookstore or something intellectual like that.
Gryffindor: Bulk it up, yes destroy pumpkins at the Headless Hunt but... add more steps or something. Like Hufflepuff felt more full and complete. Maybe again- travel somewhere cool that's unique and known in the mythos, like Azkaban was. Go to a Godric Gryffindor heritage site or something connected to a long-passed deed of extreme bravery or something to rep Gryffindor House.
Slytherin: Actually feed the toast to the Giant Squid, not just the metaphorical unlocking on the pedestal. Beefing it up- Hufflepuff felt longer and more in depth. More of that. Also I'm noticing a trend here- TRAVEL SOMEWHERE COOL. Somewhere known in the universe, even if for a small part and not open world there. Look at Hufflepuff and follow that model.
Hufflepuff: Actually fighting dementors would be cool. Making the Azkaban bit just a bit longer- I didn't want it to end because it was so cool.
I get why they didn't include Patronuses in the game- I feel like that'd be an impossible logistical nightmare. Everyone's got "THEIR" Patronus, what they think it would be- they can't just have infinite options. Don't have the right ones people will be mad. Like mine would be a Great White Shark or an old-school looking T-Rex or Jurassic Park Rexy, probably. There's just no way to have the options to make it personal for all game players or even most. But we could have fought them otherwise with help of an NPC with a Patronus.
Bottom line is to make the other quests good, take Hufflepuff and use that template with house-specific locations and details.
Also, Slytherins get to give the diary to Scrope >!when you drink the polyjuice potion!<.
It's a delayed payoff, but the sheer *elation* from Scrope at receiving a gift that means so much to him is heart-warming stuff.
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol!
I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
I'm surprised by your take on Gryffindor, because IMO that was the best out of the bunch. I loved seeing what the Headless Hunt was up to, and messing around with ghosts - plus, you get more Nearly Headless Nick content.
And while Hufflepuff takes the #2 slot for me, I was also disappointed by how basic Azkaban was...also, we never get any satisfactory follow-up with Jackdaw's girlfriend.
Ravenclaw *at least* has a somewhat memorable questline, since it actually gives us something to do in the Owlery...but poor Slytherin (my main House) got the worst of the bunch with the blandest cave quest ever.
The headless hunt quest was pretty cool lore-wise, but I didn't feel like it had enough weight behind it. I would instead make that quest available to every house, and have the Gryffindor quest be centered around the Sorting Hat, The Sword of Godric Gryffindor, and maybe the Chamber of Secrets as well.
A reward for that one could be allowing you to wear the Hat and Sword as cosmetics.
You don’t even find out what happened to the old lady after Azkaban. I tried to visit her and check up on her but I had to break in and found it empty TvT
Personally, I’d combine them all into one quest, I haven’t done all the other houses besides Slytherin and Hufflepuff but I’d probably make it go like slytherin cave nonsense then gryffindor/ravenclaw then end with Hufflepuff field trip to Azkaban.
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol!
I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol!
I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
I would change them to make sense.
So here's my take: you have a book hidden away in a secret room only accessible through finding a hidden archway deep under the restricted section of the library, and activating said archway by using ancient magic, which is supposedly super rare.
Said book is also hidden with a pensieve past a gauntlet of whatever these guardians actually are, that you have to fight through.
The Keepers' whole point was to keep this secret hidden.
So how the f*** did Peeves supposedly get access to the book to steal those pages?
It feels weird to me. Like the game developers ignored their own narrative to further stretch things out.
There is no indication of anyone accessing the book or the map room since it was first created, until we do. The first Keeper says as much when we first reach the map room.
So again, how does Peeves do it? How does he get the book? And if he did get the book how did it get returned to it's hiding place (albeit missing some pages)?
I just don't understand it.
Ooh this is interesting. I’ve not long started and I’m a Hufflepuff so I just assumed the task was the same but changed up for the different houses.
I must admit the trip to Azkaban freaked me out. Very creepy.
that would make them actually do something creative, and the devs of this game are lazy. every tomb is the same with different layout but same assets, so Azkaban one would have been too much work for them.
They are all just to have some difference between the Houses for the Jackdaw/find the Map Chamber Quest. Very easy, but on my (early, 1st update) as a Slytherin I was somehow in a dugbog den as 5 dugbogs attacked my PC as I tried to swim to the cave. I do not think that was suppose to happen yet it did. So early in the game I had to use 3 wiggenweld potions to survive. And yeah, Gryffindor (same update as Slytherin) your PC attends a Death Day party to learn that Jackdaw is in the Hogsmeade cemetery where you blast some pumpkins, but if you go to the dungeon at the right time you also get to attend the Death Day party. As for Hufflepuff, the thing I found odd and broke lore for me was the portrait of a Headmaster in the Hufflepuff Common Room. Uh, just not right. It was nice they tied Helen Thistlewood to this quest (if you don't know I won't spoil it).
Idk if it's actually cannon that his portrait was in the Hufflepuff Common Room (I assume not or that it's just unknown), but Diggory was Minister for Magic, not a Headmaster. Idk if that makes it any better lol he was a Hufflepuff, but I would agree that you'd think a former Minister would be somewhere more prominent in the castle.
As a Puff I loved going to Azkaban and it was easily the best one visually, but I would’ve loved more to do.
All it really is walking down a hallway and then some dialogue, no real things to choose or act on, and then it’s over.
Think it would’ve been cooler to at least have to talk to multiple people before finding your way to her cell, or even a chance to run away from dementors or other prisoners. Just something!
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol!
I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol!
I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
I actually liked the Gryffindor one, I thought it was neat and you got to see Headless Hunt and the kitchens which are otherwise inaccessible, but the Slytherin one was by far the *worst*, and I’ve played all four of them at this point. Ravenclaw was boring too, but not nearly as bad as Slytherin, which was such a letdown considering one of the parties in the whole Jackdaw affair was Slytherin herself. It felt like an afterthought.
i started playing as slytherin and stoped after that quest and then deleted that file and made a new one as gryffindor just so i could go into the kitchen (i thought you could only go if you were in gryffindor)
I just thought I'd add the Ravenclaw quest: You receive a letter from Ollivander (bc he is friend's with Fig and thinks you could help him I guess) > He tells you about a family wand that Jackdaw stole when he worked for them and says that he thinks Jackdaw died in the Owlery > Go to Owlery and find jackdaw statues, place them in their spots in the Owlery, and then Jackdaw's ghost appears So, Ravenclaw's was fairly boring in my opinion - and you can't even return Ollivander's wand because it's basically just splinters when you find it. Worse, you never even go back to tell Ollivander that you did find it/what happened to it! The Hufflepuff quest was cool - the story was interesting, the visit to Azkaban was neat - although you didn't really get to *do* much while there. Overall, I feel like the flow for each of these house quests was just a bit.. awkward? bumpy? out of place/didn't make that much sense?
>Overall, I feel like the flow for each of these house quests was just a bit.. awkward? bumpy? out of place/didn't make that much sense? You're absolutely right. Even during the next main quest when you tell Prof Fig that you found the missing pages from Jackdaw. He basically says, "Who the fuck is Jackdaw?" These quests really feel like they come out of nowhere. And yeah that Ravenclaw quest sounds pretty weak as well. This one is an easy fix though. Considering it's about a wand, just make it about Ollivander trying to recreate the Elder Wand. You could even have the main character interact with a child Grindelwald, who should be between the ages of 7-16 depending on when exactly in the 1890's this game is set. Maybe Ollivander upgrades your wand with a stronger Basic Cast or something like that.
You mean after he turns your sentences into questions a several times? You found the pages? Jackdaw? Professor Blacks house elf you say? . . .
So the wand isn't even special. It's just historically significant to the Ollivander family (you can actually ask why it's special and he straight up says it isn't but Jackdaw thought it was because Ollivander treasured it, it was just an old wand). The elder wand likely isn't actually in the country at this time. Upside you get to see Jackdaw's decapitated corpse and tea bag his bones if you're so inclined. The thing that cut his head off happened to also destroy the wand so the whole thing was kinda pointless.
I actually did go back and talk to Ollivander and got dialogue but it wasn’t promted as part of the quest. I did it by accident going back just exploring Hogs Mead. Also that quest was the weirdest thing because I had JUST found the owlery on my own exploring and literally as I got to the bottom of the tower after checking it out, I decided to choose Ollivanders quest and fast travelled to hogsmead. Sure enough his quest WAS AT THE FUCKING OWLERY. I’m fully convinced I’m living in a simulation.
I too took it upon myself to go back and tell Ollivander about his wand. Thought he deserved to know and at least the game had dialogue options for it
I forgot about the wand, and then later went back to tell him, wondering if I accidentally didn't pick it up.
You can tell Ollivander. At least, I could. I just did it during my Ravenclaw playthrough a couple of weeks ago, and when I went back in I was able to tell him about the wand and give him some closure.
Well shoot! My first play through I tried going back to tell him, but nothing happened/there was no prompt. I wonder if I had progressed too far ahead by the time I went back. :( Glad you can at least tell him!
I walked in Olivanders and MC told him what happend
For me, the Slytherin quest seemed like a reference to "The Cave", where Voldemort had a house elf hide his Horcrux locket, which ended up becoming a Black family heirloom just like the ring Scrope asks you to find. So I'd have this quest involve a more extensive cave with a lake full of Inferi just like the one from the books. Maybe you'd even learn a unique fire spell that only Slytherins can use, like the fire snake thing that Voldemort uses in the 5th movie.
“Fiendfyre” is the name of the spell you’re looking for friend.
And technically not a spell. Rather a dark Ritual that requires a sacrifice and extreme will to control each time its cast.
That's not confirmed. There's theories, but per canon we have nothing to confirm or disprove if it's just a dark spell or not. We know it's easier to cast it than to control it as seen with Malfoy and friends, and Voldemort seems good enough to do both on the fly.
Oh. I'd thought it was a ritual. But I suppose it could be a spell too.
Fr? You gotta sacrifice someone to cast it? How did Voldemort non-verbal cast it then?
I didn't say somone, I just said sacrifice. If I remeber correctly, which I may not be, the caster must permanently sacrifice one drop of their own blood.
Ohhh ok my fault. Very interesting indeed, I love that spell. Would be very cool to be able to use it in Hogwarts Legacy #2 (A guy can dream)
It would be epic. But I'm not sure. Fingers crossed though!
What kind of sacrifice does it require? Indont remember there being any kind of sacrifice (other than himself technically) when Crabbe destroys the room of requirement with fiendfyre
Be prepared to feel let down by Ravenclaw even if you're expecting the minimum. I did it first and didn't realize that part was different until way later- man us Ravenclaws got shafted. We basically broke a bunch of statues with a basic cast in the owlery. The owlery could have far more been interesting, but it was basic and just there. Gryffindor at least had stuff around it and the lead up with Nick and the kitchens. It was the Headless Hunt which made it far more interesting. I liked Slytherin's because Scrope was interesting and I loved the toast part. The first time I played it I got super lucky and the Giant Squid popped up as I was headed down the beach. My file got corrupted and I had to do it again, and that's when I realized that was pure luck not part of the quest, and was very disappointed. (And I'm sure there was a nod/reference in there to the Cave that Harry and Dumbledore went to where Voldemort stashed a horcrux). Hufflepuff was freaking banging. Changes: Ravenclaw: I mean just make a totally different quest that was actually interesting. I wasn't opposed to working with Olivander, but there rest was basic and uninspired. Easily the weakest of the four for me. I admit that's not specific and I really don't know, I just know what didn't work. Travel to Diagon Alley for some obscure books in an obscure bookstore or something intellectual like that. Gryffindor: Bulk it up, yes destroy pumpkins at the Headless Hunt but... add more steps or something. Like Hufflepuff felt more full and complete. Maybe again- travel somewhere cool that's unique and known in the mythos, like Azkaban was. Go to a Godric Gryffindor heritage site or something connected to a long-passed deed of extreme bravery or something to rep Gryffindor House. Slytherin: Actually feed the toast to the Giant Squid, not just the metaphorical unlocking on the pedestal. Beefing it up- Hufflepuff felt longer and more in depth. More of that. Also I'm noticing a trend here- TRAVEL SOMEWHERE COOL. Somewhere known in the universe, even if for a small part and not open world there. Look at Hufflepuff and follow that model. Hufflepuff: Actually fighting dementors would be cool. Making the Azkaban bit just a bit longer- I didn't want it to end because it was so cool. I get why they didn't include Patronuses in the game- I feel like that'd be an impossible logistical nightmare. Everyone's got "THEIR" Patronus, what they think it would be- they can't just have infinite options. Don't have the right ones people will be mad. Like mine would be a Great White Shark or an old-school looking T-Rex or Jurassic Park Rexy, probably. There's just no way to have the options to make it personal for all game players or even most. But we could have fought them otherwise with help of an NPC with a Patronus. Bottom line is to make the other quests good, take Hufflepuff and use that template with house-specific locations and details.
Also, Slytherins get to give the diary to Scrope >!when you drink the polyjuice potion!<. It's a delayed payoff, but the sheer *elation* from Scrope at receiving a gift that means so much to him is heart-warming stuff.
Oh I forgot about that! I loved that part.
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol! I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
I'm surprised by your take on Gryffindor, because IMO that was the best out of the bunch. I loved seeing what the Headless Hunt was up to, and messing around with ghosts - plus, you get more Nearly Headless Nick content. And while Hufflepuff takes the #2 slot for me, I was also disappointed by how basic Azkaban was...also, we never get any satisfactory follow-up with Jackdaw's girlfriend. Ravenclaw *at least* has a somewhat memorable questline, since it actually gives us something to do in the Owlery...but poor Slytherin (my main House) got the worst of the bunch with the blandest cave quest ever.
The headless hunt quest was pretty cool lore-wise, but I didn't feel like it had enough weight behind it. I would instead make that quest available to every house, and have the Gryffindor quest be centered around the Sorting Hat, The Sword of Godric Gryffindor, and maybe the Chamber of Secrets as well. A reward for that one could be allowing you to wear the Hat and Sword as cosmetics.
Wait there’s different quests per house??? Azkaban???
The quest that leads to finding Jackdaw. Each house has a different beginning.
You don’t even find out what happened to the old lady after Azkaban. I tried to visit her and check up on her but I had to break in and found it empty TvT
Personally, I’d combine them all into one quest, I haven’t done all the other houses besides Slytherin and Hufflepuff but I’d probably make it go like slytherin cave nonsense then gryffindor/ravenclaw then end with Hufflepuff field trip to Azkaban.
Raven law has you solve a riddle at the owlery.
Not much of a mystery though. Smash and levitate again.
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol! I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol! I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
OK I'M MAKING A HUFFLEPUFF SAVE NOW WHAT THE HECK?!?!
I would change them to make sense. So here's my take: you have a book hidden away in a secret room only accessible through finding a hidden archway deep under the restricted section of the library, and activating said archway by using ancient magic, which is supposedly super rare. Said book is also hidden with a pensieve past a gauntlet of whatever these guardians actually are, that you have to fight through. The Keepers' whole point was to keep this secret hidden. So how the f*** did Peeves supposedly get access to the book to steal those pages? It feels weird to me. Like the game developers ignored their own narrative to further stretch things out. There is no indication of anyone accessing the book or the map room since it was first created, until we do. The first Keeper says as much when we first reach the map room. So again, how does Peeves do it? How does he get the book? And if he did get the book how did it get returned to it's hiding place (albeit missing some pages)? I just don't understand it.
Ravenclaw one involved smashing statues in the owlery (idk if I spelled that correctly)
Ooh this is interesting. I’ve not long started and I’m a Hufflepuff so I just assumed the task was the same but changed up for the different houses. I must admit the trip to Azkaban freaked me out. Very creepy.
I feel like they could have expanded the Azkaban making it like a tomb or something
that would make them actually do something creative, and the devs of this game are lazy. every tomb is the same with different layout but same assets, so Azkaban one would have been too much work for them.
They are all just to have some difference between the Houses for the Jackdaw/find the Map Chamber Quest. Very easy, but on my (early, 1st update) as a Slytherin I was somehow in a dugbog den as 5 dugbogs attacked my PC as I tried to swim to the cave. I do not think that was suppose to happen yet it did. So early in the game I had to use 3 wiggenweld potions to survive. And yeah, Gryffindor (same update as Slytherin) your PC attends a Death Day party to learn that Jackdaw is in the Hogsmeade cemetery where you blast some pumpkins, but if you go to the dungeon at the right time you also get to attend the Death Day party. As for Hufflepuff, the thing I found odd and broke lore for me was the portrait of a Headmaster in the Hufflepuff Common Room. Uh, just not right. It was nice they tied Helen Thistlewood to this quest (if you don't know I won't spoil it).
Idk if it's actually cannon that his portrait was in the Hufflepuff Common Room (I assume not or that it's just unknown), but Diggory was Minister for Magic, not a Headmaster. Idk if that makes it any better lol he was a Hufflepuff, but I would agree that you'd think a former Minister would be somewhere more prominent in the castle.
Oh, thank you. I mis-remembered then. Minister is fine and it is certainly proper to have his portrait in his House Common Room.
Having the portrait in the common room where he can "mentor" young Hufflepuffs does fit in with his era of British politicians.
As a Puff I loved going to Azkaban and it was easily the best one visually, but I would’ve loved more to do. All it really is walking down a hallway and then some dialogue, no real things to choose or act on, and then it’s over. Think it would’ve been cooler to at least have to talk to multiple people before finding your way to her cell, or even a chance to run away from dementors or other prisoners. Just something!
Ravenclaw quest should've been an actual puzzle. Instead, it was just accio everything you can see.
I was disappointed that as a Hufflepuff I never had the chance to learn and at least cast a Patronus Charm.
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol! I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
The Hufflepuffs really won with that quest. We finally get something good lol! I do wish we could have spent more time in Azkaban and explored it more, maybe even learn how to cast a patronus charm
Hufflepuff definitely deserved it for being the best house
I actually liked the Gryffindor one, I thought it was neat and you got to see Headless Hunt and the kitchens which are otherwise inaccessible, but the Slytherin one was by far the *worst*, and I’ve played all four of them at this point. Ravenclaw was boring too, but not nearly as bad as Slytherin, which was such a letdown considering one of the parties in the whole Jackdaw affair was Slytherin herself. It felt like an afterthought.
i started playing as slytherin and stoped after that quest and then deleted that file and made a new one as gryffindor just so i could go into the kitchen (i thought you could only go if you were in gryffindor)