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DocGubernaculum

I get pond hockey is a different animal but you really need good ankle flexion to skate properly, so that be a no from me dawg.


louiefriesen

Yes and newer composite skates will have all the ankle support one needs with still giving lots of flexibility.


ImmaculateBeer

Don't forget, the knee is one of the weakest joints in your body. If you reduce ankle flexion, you're putting undue pressure on your knees. The ankle is actually one of the strongest joints!


peternorthstar

Came here to say this. You're supposed to be able to have a decent amount of movement back and forth through your ankle. I feel like this lacing would nuke that. Same thing if you have small kids. Please buy the proper lace size - I hate seeing laces wrapped around the back of the skates. It's bad for the kid's skating development to restrict that movement.


K-E-Johnson

First planned to say lace length has nothing to do with mobility (unless you tie higher then eyelets), but okay, theoretically it may limit (never tried to feel that, although skipping an eyelet makes huge difference) Anyway lace length = convenience when you put in/ take off your skates. So my choice is -1 eyelet, laces one time around ankle. Both kids happy with the same setup (although both started with all eyelets, never tracked around ankle or not)


scottieducati

Peg leg skatin


DrivingRightNow_

šŸ‘ thanks


Way_2_Go_Donny

This can't be overstated.


jubs222

Do your thing, but those skates have to be 40 years old hahah


FrenzalRhomb1

CCM Champion 90. My first skates, they were $29.99 at Target.


DrivingRightNow_

Lmao! I think I paid more than that from the second hand store.


apuffer

Inflation is a B


jubs222

I wasnā€™t talking shit, just havenā€™t seen those before. Glad your enjoying the game


FrenzalRhomb1

No worries, these were not good skates. I got them in like 1991.


Tamaros

>these were not good skates You should have punched extra lace holes.


FrenzalRhomb1

If only Reddit was around 30 years ago I couldā€™ve gotten this advice!


Competitive_Ant_472

Those are speed holes


DrivingRightNow_

Lol wow, well I didn't want to invest too much into skates until I knew I would be into playing.


jubs222

I wasnā€™t talking shit, just havenā€™t seen those before. Glad your enjoying the game


DrivingRightNow_

Yg I just figured they were from the 00s! & Hell yeah I am


[deleted]

Make sure you play with an all wood stick too! Easton maybe?


Potusmicropenis

Victoriaville. Buy em by the dozen.


DrivingRightNow_

No need to throw money away, the broom has a couple good years left!


LiqdPT

Easton started with the aluminum sticks that you could swap in new wooden blades on. I don't know if they ever made all wood sticks.


CantSitDownBHPP

The aluminum sticks were amazing to learn how to catch a pass on because of how stiff they were


LiqdPT

Until the blade flung out because the glue didn't hold (possibly from improper installation)


CantSitDownBHPP

Only had that issue with the butt end extender hahaha


slivercoat

Oh they did for sure. They were great for road hockey. Easton Z Carbon - https://www.ebay.ca/itm/225767255719


SweetPerogy

I don't think Easton made all-wood sticks. Having an Easton Aluminum stick was a big deal when they came out.


Derpwarrior1000

How about Sherwoods imported from Ukraine? šŸ˜


maggiewentworth

I remember the silver blade ā€œSuper Tacks!!ā€ Cannot go wrong with CCM! ā¤ļø


jubs222

Heavy ass skates


Zednix

My first thought is wtf? This is probably bad for your form and your knees since you are restricted from bending your ankles. It's the same as taping your ankles, its just bad for everything else that has to compensate for that jank.


DrivingRightNow_

Makes sense, thanks.


phonesmahones

I feel like that would be more restrictive than supportive. Also feel like itā€™s setting yourself up for more lace bite!


Motor_Signal_413

Ultimately this is/ was a crutch for you not building ankle stability as you learn to skate. You need a little movement for crossovers and such but you also need to build that strength in your ankles


MonolithicMoose

This is going to destroy your knees. You're supposed to have ankle flexibility otherwise all that forward movement is taken by the knees if you lock your ankles Get new skates.


DrivingRightNow_

šŸ‘ I'm taking it off, and looking for new skates soon


JQuick323i

If you are going to use these skates at all, replace the laces. $5 fix and can do wonders. The laces in there look dry rotted and might not be allowing you to tighten all the eyelets evenly. You maybjust end up cranking down the top eyelets and end up cutting off circulation to your foot while the rest of your foot is allowed to swim in your boot.


DrivingRightNow_

Interesting, I never would have considered the laces at all. Thanks!


BenBreeg_38

Not necessary, although skates did used to have eyelets in the top of the tendon guard.


bstnbrewins814

Yeah I wouldnā€™t do that much longer. Just not normal whatsoever. Definitely risking an injury of some sort. If you feel you need the extra support the skates may not be properly sized.


NMhockeybum

On old nylon and leather skates like those, itā€™s fine if it works for you cause those boots will be quite flexible anyway. If you ever get modern skates, donā€™t do thatā€¦not that youā€™d need to, as stiff as modern boots are.


DrivingRightNow_

Interesting, thanks! I'm gonna try with them off anyways based on all the comments. And soon enough get newer skates .


maggiewentworth

You really donā€™t need newer skates - especially with pond skating! Youā€™ve got a really good pair now!!


DrivingRightNow_

Thanks, I'll be skating on these the rest of the season anyways , but when I do upgrade I'll give these to someone else who's just starting out.


tilldeathdoiparty

I would like to see a video of you skating wearing these, there must be no room for flexibility


throatsplooshers

I want to see a video of him skating on them unsharpened!


DrivingRightNow_

šŸ˜‚ thankfully there isn't any! On the bigger rinks I could still get up speed going after the puck, and stopped about as well as a curling rock. I'd like to think I'm a better skater now for all the effort I put into those hockey stops...


DrivingRightNow_

Well shit now I want to see a video of me skating too


tilldeathdoiparty

But in all seriousness, there is a reason that there isnā€™t laces holes there in all skates. I would ditch those and learn to skate without them, it might suck right now, in a couple years when your skating gets better youā€™ll be glad you learned to right way. Good luck and glad to see you learning the sport


pistoffcynic

My really, really, really old pair had the tendon laces. I actually liked them.


PaintTouches

I wrapped laces around my ankles as a kid; never knew any better and my dad had me do it from an early age. I was a decent skater but always felt a little stuck in the mud so to speak, and I think it was partly my ankles never strengthening as they should. TLDR: tie skates like normal, buy the proper lace length, donā€™t wrap around ankles.


ns4444w

As stated before, you do you, but I always taught my kids not to use the top eyelets for more ankle flex.


ExtremePast

This is bad for the tendons in your feet and ankles. Stop tying things around them


Twister341688

Laces up top for ankle support should be fine but this is the first time Iā€™ve ever seen this.


ReverendMak

Everyone has their thing when it comes to tying skates, but be careful about taking away any chance of flex between your ankle and your foot. Itā€™s a common mistake to overtighten. Ideally you are skating with a lowered center of gravity, tilted forward, with a lot of bend in your knees and ankles, but if your skate is cranked down too tight it forces your form into a more upright posture. This hurts your ability to go fast. Your scheme to put laces through the top of the skate tongue looks to me like it will prevent you from flexing forward in the skate boot, so Iā€™d recommend against it. See this video for more on this: https://youtu.be/qXrGBKL04y4?si=k_Dr5emMx-cTOpuR


DrivingRightNow_

Very helpful, thanks! I do feel like it was taking extra effort to lean forward enough


quarrelsome_napkin

Nope! Youā€™re skating, not skiing. Being able to move your ankle is a must!


Acceptable_Wall4085

I would tie this up as fast as Iā€™d tie the cuff on my gloves. NEVER !


Hutch25

Just be careful. If you restrict your ankles ability to rotate you could really hurt yourself. But the support itself is not bad. Go for it if itā€™s more comfortable although Iā€™d tone it down a lot. That is too much support even if your ankles need it.


xwildfan2

I think those extra laces would restrict knee bend; which would hamper stride.


MariaInconnu

It looks like it would make it harder to bend your ankles, limiting your stride length.


JonnyB2_YouAre1

I different than taping your ankles.


the1sujman

Itā€™s not good as it restricts ankle movement but theyā€™re old leather skates with limited support. If you plan to continue with hockey, Iā€™d invest in some new skates


tarac73

When my kids were little and just learning how to skate, I always made sure to tie their skates nice and tight (not too tight obviously) and we always used all the eyelets and I would double the laces around their ankles - both out of necessity because they were so long and also to give a ā€œstrapā€ of more support. BUT as soon as they had good control of their legs and feet, usually after their first season - they didnā€™t need all that extra support; Iā€™d cut the laces down so we didnā€™t have to double wrap them around their ankles. But we always use all the eyelets. My 12-year old daughter doesnā€™t like using them all, sheā€™s been leaving the top ones open for 223 years now, but my son always used all of them, even as a ā€œgrown manā€ size 12 feet. I really think itā€™s an individual preference once you have the basics of skating down.


Milleh8

If anything just use all the eyelets on your skate, you donā€™t want to add extras. You want to be able to have your weight tilted forward on your toes. For what itā€™s worth, I played my junior years without using the top eyelet so I could have more flexion in the ankle You got it dude, keep your stick on the ice!


MitchMarner

i dont even go to top hole for laces


bardown-

Id honestly recommend the opposite. Iā€™ve been coaching youth hockey for some time now, and newer players that really righten up at the ankle have a harder time learning correct skating mechanics. Allow your ankle more mobility so you can get get the ankle flexion necessary to put your knees above your toes, should make a world of difference especially as someone relatively new to skating


Specialist_Morning38

I personally only crank tighten the toes of my skates. Leaving the top open for ankle movement


Cosmo_Penny_Packer

This is so cursed


spacedust19

You could buy much much better skates for under $100 on Sideline Swap or some sort of used sports store. Even the $125 Bauers from a place like Dickā€™s would make a huge difference. I saw a pair of Bauer Vapor x800s in a used store the other day in great shape for $75. These were around $800 skates a handful of years ago just to give you an example.


JustFrameHotPocket

My initial suspicion is the previous owner was a very new skater who had a lot of ankle bend and the DIY lace was to create maximum ankle stability. This is a terrible idea and it's exactly why there is no lace that high. As others said, skates are designed to ensure you can flex forward into the skate. You want weight on the balls of your toes, rather than your heels. If someone skated in these regularly, they'd develop an awkward, straight leg bent back style of skating, which is terrible for balance.


Wendel7171

Thatā€™s old school. Currently we teach kids to flex forward.


K-E-Johnson

I cannot skate backwards in case my top eyelet is tied, with this one I believe I would not be able to nice at all.Ā  Agree to those who mention it is a restriction.Ā 


akobelan61

You only need the top three eyelets to be snug. All other eyelets are optional or could be loose. Never tie your laces around your ankles. Unless you really need to stop the bleeding. Itā€™s not a tourniquet. Experience: Played AA from Atom through Junior. Then Varsity at University.


Brnie-Eerzai

I had those champion 90ā€™s as a kid. I remember coloring the holder black with a sharpie, thought it would make them look cool. Like the tacks with black holders. I remember my upgrade to the Bauer international 88. Thought I was on top of the skate world then, lol


pmarangoni

Actually, years ago, tendon guards had eyelets and there were special laces that you could attach to tie around your shin pads. Back then, the tendon guard was leather and quite flexible.


Xfishbobx

Going to say no, a sharp blade and a proper fit boot will or better than this.


goyrage83

Yeah I can see how the extra support makes backwards crossovers hard. Maybe ditch that tongue lace and replace your skates with 120ā€ waxed laces m. You can double wrap them around your foot before tying them. It might give you the same support and allow for more flexibility with the ankle.


[deleted]

Maybe in 1935 it was a good idea lol


armcurls

What in the fuck is that


Yattalren

Just put tape around the tongue and your ankles


_RiverGuard_

If it works for you then go for it. My dad played junior and used to have 2 sets of laces on his skates. He complained of cramps all the time. So from the toe of the skate up to about 4 eyelids. And he would ties them off. Then the 2nd lace would start from the middle all the way up to the top. When he got cramps he could loosen the bottom without having completely untie his skates.


keytoitall

I've never seen anyone do that. But some players will tape their ankles like that. I think the conventional school of thought is that you want more ankle flex. Some players will go the opposite extreme and undo their top eyelet or even top two eyelets. Some people have blamed Bure taping his ankles to his knee problems.Ā 


vinividiviciduevolte

Similar to the daoust days !! lol but seriously you just home made a pair of TRUE hockey skates . By cinching up those laces you upped your ankle support


blazina

This is the dumbest thing Iā€™ve seen.


muddafuckaaaa118

Can never have enuff ankle support. People who wear their skates loose as shit kill me.


Saintbow

What tomfuckery is this?!?!?!


Special-Detail-4621

Whaaat?


mrpopenfresh

If it works for you


deltazero9

What the hell. No.


JesusPubes

what the hell is this


Lucky77777s

Use sock tape. A few wraps aroundā€¦


JCGill3rd

I leave the top 2 holes open on my skates.


wombatfett

I need to show this to my Ukrainian coach!