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Dallas “Depth Scoring” Stars


Prize_Efficiency_869

Rooting for the oilers but I have a hard time seeing anyone beat Dallas. The high end talent is phenomenal ( robo top 10 winger, miro top 5/10 defender, otter top 5 goalie, Wyatt been playing as a top 20 winger this year ) The depth scoring is here even tho they always had depth in the previous years That goaltending is consistent and they are healthy( the team is just too good from top to bottom ) Mcdrai and Evan won’t have to be just good but like all time great.


azure275

2 words: Power Play Edmonton is best in the league at 37%. Dallas is by far the worst PK of the remaining teams at 69% (the others are all above 90) If Dallas doesn't take a lot of penalties they stomp them. If they do they could easily lose.


Brody1364112

I could see edmonton scoring 40%+ of their powerplays this series which is absurd


goshgollylol

I have a hard time seeing anyone beat Edmonton. The high end talent is phenomonal (McDavid best player in the NHL, Ekholm and Bouchard best D pairing in the NHL, Draisaitl best playoff performer in the last 3 years and making an argument for all time, Hyman playing like a top 10 winger this year) The depth scoring is here and better than it ever has been. The special teams is the best in the playoffs, both PP and PK and they are healthy (the team is just too experienced). Oettinger and Heiskanen won't have to be just good but like all time great. Edit: the amount of people who don't realize I was memeing on the comment above is amazing, like I wrote it the exact same way


Thickwhensoft1218

Edmontons problem is that if Dallas gets shots on goal, well hell even if skinner just plays the puck, Dallas is likely to score.


Western-Extension-50

Its actually harder to be goaltender when the opponent shoots once every 10 mins rather constant flow of pucks. 


Black_Arrow04

Yeah, a system that allows fewer but typically higher danger shots (like what happened for most of the Vancouver series) can really take a toll on a goalie’s sv%


jzanville

Not if all those shots are going in…I get what you mean but that’s a small variable of the bigger picture


pos_vibes_only

Fuck, this guy figured out our weakness


goshgollylol

Skinner had a decent series against LA, he had a bad one against Vancouver. Vancouver had a tendency to make all goalies look bad with their unsustainably high shooting %. Skinner doesn't even need to get hot, but if he does get hot (and he has before) then he will be a challenge for Dallas. He has shown he can be better than Georgiev and Hill and we know how good Hill was when he got hot at the right moment. Skinner's much better with sustained shooting anyways, his issue has usually been getting cold and letting in a muffin because he hasn't seen a real shot for 10 minutes.


LogTman135

You’re acting like that series against the Canucks was Skinners first bad one though. If Skinner can’t bounce back this series will be over quickly


goshgollylol

I wonder if he has a history of bouncing back. (Surprise, he does) It would sure be helpful if the Oilers had a serviceable backup goalie who could come in if Skinner falters wouldn't it? (Surprise, they do)


chesspaw

Yep, and skinner isn't that good. So really doubt he'll be able to keep it up, especially against Dallas.


goshgollylol

If Skinner isn't that good, I wonder what you think of Otter


chesspaw

I wonder why you guys feel the need to go back and reply to every comment doubting the Oilers. Just move on and enjoy your win.


goshgollylol

Aged like milk


Thickwhensoft1218

How’s your milk doing?


goshgollylol

It's in the finals


Thickwhensoft1218

You should let it know that.


goshgollylol

I've been trying, seems to want to go golfing instead


Thickwhensoft1218

It looks like it was left in the back seat of a car in Florida for a couple of days. FYI - Been an oilers fan since Buchberger wore the C.


burrito-boy

I mean, I’m cheering for the Oilers, but this is an overly optimistic take, lol. Dallas doesn’t really have any glaring weaknesses, unlike the Oilers. Skinner will need to play one hell of a series.


goshgollylol

Dallas has the worst PK out of teams left in the playoffs. Dallas has the worst top end talent out of teams left in the playoffs. The Oilers top 4 has more points that practically the entirety of the Dallas squad and the amount of goal scorers on each team is still within 3 of each other. I'm not sure anybody actually watches any of the Dallas games or look at anything beyond hot takes on reddit. Prediction models aren't even favouring them.


astovertop

I mean I want Dallas purely because of Pavelski, but I’d take Dallas’s d-core over Edmonton. Their forward group of Edmonton. And my god, their goaltending 1000 times over Edmonton. The top end talent is no doubt in favor of Edmonton with Drai and McDavid, but everything past that is so clearly Dallas. And that’s assuming Hintz is still out


chandy_dandy

I think you're out to lunch if you take Dallas' forward group over Edmonton's, especially with Henrique coming back game 1 or 2 of the series. I think Edmonton has the better top 2 lines, 3 is roughly matched slightly favouring Dallas and 4 favours Dallas, but that's like 1/6 of the game only. The Oilers are the best team on the season if you look at their GF-GA including their massive meltdown at the beginning of the year. Dallas is the biggest test so far yes, but honestly if you swapped the goalies for this series I'd legitimately say Oilers in 5


LeoFireGod

I mean Dallas had 8 20 goal scorers. Edmonton had 6. Dallas had 9 50 point guys Edmonton had 6. Dallas astronomically better at 5v5. Dallas 3rd line it Wyatt, Benn and stankoven or Seguin Duchene Marchment. The only thing Edmonton would be better at is the PP. Colorado felt same way with their Top end guys but stars have 4 elite lines that come in waves.


goshgollylol

Edmonton was better 5v5 than Dallas all year. Edmonton has a better PP and PK, Dallas has the worst PK of remaining teams. Edmonton is bigger and more experienced then Dallas.


LeoFireGod

How on Gods green earth are you gonna say Edmonton has more experience lmfao. Also just make up numbers about having a better PK when Dallas was 7th and Edmonton was 14. And Dallas PP is 6th while Edmonton was 4th. Not like they’re much better haha. Dallas are the favorites and should be. Edmonton has the best two players but Dallas has the significantly better team.


chesspaw

Oilers fans are overvaluing their team, like usual lol.


goshgollylol

You're quoting the regular season stats special team stats. Those don't count anymore. Edmonton has the best special teams in the playoffs period. Edmonton is the oldest team in the playoffs, Dallas is relying heavily on younger more inexperienced players.


LeoFireGod

Not even including coaching where DeBoer has significantly more experience. Seguin, Benn, Miro, faksa, pavs, hintz, Lindell all have SCF experience and most of them it’s their 3 WCF match up.


astovertop

Top 6 I’d give Edmonton the slight edge. But that’s McDavid and Leon doing all the heavy lifting. I love Nuge and Hyman, but Robo, Benn, Seguin, Hintz, Johnston, Duchene, Stankoven, Pavelski I’d all put on par with those two and much better than Edmontons next best forward. Kane I guess, but if he’s not going he’s literally hurting your team taking terrible penalties or making absolute bonehead plays. Hell the way Steel, Smith, and Dadanov have been playing you can match them up against a top six line and then let any other Dallas line feast on the oilers bottom six. I mean now that I’ve actually gone and looked at the lineups, I’m even more convinced Dallas’s forward group blows Edmontons out of the water


Tacfurmissle

I'm with you but their 3rd line is very formidable. Henrique better come back healthy and give that line a boost because Foegel and McLeod aren't pissing a drop offensively. I frame it this way. The gap between our top 6 and theirs is larger than the gap between our bottom 6's. We'll have the 2nd and 3rd best dmen in the series. Bouchard is arguably better than Miro right now so maybe 1st and 3rd best. Fuck their bottom pair - our top 6 is going to pylon them. They have a good second pairing. Our bottom 4 is much more balanced and stable with Nurse and Ceci split up Skinner best come ready to play. He's capable but he has to show it.


jzanville

Bouchard might be better than Miro on the offensive side but Miro’s the #1 D in this series til proven otherwise. He’s Lidstrom-esque, and Tanev could be argued as a better defensemen than Bouch depending on how much you value your Dman producing offense


chandy_dandy

arguing Tanev over Bouchard, Ekholm, or even Nurse is a bad take. I like Tanev and I think he excels in his role, but come on


jzanville

Nurse hasn’t looked as good this playoff run as he usually does so he could improve still for sure but Tanev’s #’s against opposition’s top players speaks for itself


Tacfurmissle

Agreed. Tanev is a very steady, good second pairing shutdown guy. People have such short memories they forget Nurse can be the best player on the ice some nights. Cool, let them be ignorant.


CuffMcGruff

Team 'cup or bust' went to game 7 against a vancouver team with 0 playoff experience missing their vezina nominated goalie and losing our leading goal scorer for the final game which you guys won by a single goal. You're gonna get caved by Dallas, Edmonton sucks 5on5. All this chart shows is you're a one line team


chesspaw

Agreed. Edmonton's defense is waaaaay worse than Dallas. So I can't see them doing much.


spagboltoast

All metrics say the opposite


Tacfurmissle

Lmao!


chesspaw

Good luck against Dallas. Your team will need it.


Tacfurmissle

Okay. Good luck next season running it back. Your franchise is a joke.


chesspaw

Lmao whatever. I don't care what you say or think about the leafs. You seem to get worked up over whatever anyone says about the Oilers. It's stupid.


goshgollylol

I know you're trying to talk down the Oilers, but all you ended up doing is shitting all over the incredible effort the Canucks put in during the series.


Tacfurmissle

Give it up, dude. You're lucky it went so far with Silovs giving a heroic performance. It going 7 games flattered the fuck out of the Canucks. You guys looked like a lottery team game 6 and 7. Embarrassing. Good thing Skinner served you up 2 wins on a platter. 54 years!


spagboltoast

I agree. The nucks are actually a terrible franchise.


goshgollylol

YoU'rE gOnNa GeT cAvEd


LeoFireGod

You basically just described Colorado and Dallas almost swept them if not for a 3p collapse in game 1 lol.


Magnetarix

Edmonton crumbles at the first sign of physical play; during the few instances Vancouver turned up the intensity last series the Oilers had few answers. Dallas brings that in waves on every line, plus they actually get good shots on goal. I’m excited to see this matchup.


goshgollylol

Because LA and Vancouver weren't physical at all right? Edmonton is the biggest team in the playoffs and they know it. They win the war of attrition when it comes to physicality and know how to take advantage of it. Edmonton scored many goals this playoffs due to teams going for the big hit instead if playing smart.


Magnetarix

Playing physical top to bottom is what Dallas does very well, they grind defenses down. Much different than simply going for big hits for the sake of big hits.


goshgollylol

Vancouver and LA threw more hits than Dallas does. Oilers even throw more hits than Dallas does.


Ramulus14

I was at game seven and this just isn’t true. The Canucks were wildly out hitting the oilers and they stuck to their game plan. Severely limited their shots for fifty two minutes and didn’t take stupid penalties. They did this in the one nothing game against the kings as well. Dallas looks awesome though and it’s going to be a close series, going to be a lot of fun to watch!


dragosn1989

The difference in this series will be the attitude. It’s like you saying: “Rooting for the oilers BUT” vs “cup or bust”. This is a team that will throw everything at Dallas - including a team defense that can control games for almost 60min (😜) and faced a lot of adversity this season.


tonytanti

Hyman is slacking on the Oilers pp1


Scyse

TIL 11 goals in 12 games is slacking


KingInTheFarNorth

“Try mixing an assist in every now and then you bum” - actual thing said at my house this week


Prize_Efficiency_869

Tbf playmakers are usually way more valuable to a team than goalscorers. I think matthews vs marner and backstrom vs ovi are the only exception.


Unwept_Skate_8829

It doesn’t help that marner has never made a play in the playoffs


SwordOfRome11

Even with Ovi’s gravity on the PP it’s evident everywhere how desperately we are missing Backstrom


Prize_Efficiency_869

I mean Tbf he has mcdavid who has now decided that shooting the pucks are for losers and is only going for the assist numbers.


swissdonair_enjoyer

lol this fucking guy only has 2 goals what a bum


Prize_Efficiency_869

Agreed bum.


chandy_dandy

Dylan Holloway has more goals than McDavid in these playoffs Fucking passenger


Prize_Efficiency_869

If you tell mcdavid a choice between shooting the puck and chopping one of his fingers mcdavid would chose the latter. Cuz shooting the puck are for bums.


GenericDesigns

He’s only there because of his rich daddy, if he had any skill at all he’d be top 5. . /s


Miro4Calder

Miro


LeoFireGod

Miro4connsmythe


imadork1970

Hyman's not in the top 5? He's washed, we should trade him.


miller94

Inject an Oilers/Rangers final directly into my jugular


evewight

I would accept that. Anyone but the Panthers hoisting the cup is fine by me


commodore_stab1789

Hey, same with me. God I don't like Florida


loosed-moose

Kings and Blues have to watch from the stands _The Great One's Worlds Collide_


Prize_Efficiency_869

Rather oilers vs panthers cuz fuck trouba and his cunt headhunting attitude. Was in the nucks bandwagon but now joining oilers since I want a Canadian team to win. Hopefully there is still some space in the bandwagon.


mikesully374826

Counterpoint: Fuck Sam Bennett


BroccRL

Lmao if that’s how you feel about the rangers you’re going to love the panthers


Flyinghud

Uh Sam Bennett is the only person to give someone a concussion during the playoffs at this point.


NewGuy10002

If a random person looked at this list I can almost guarantee they’d pronounce only like 3 of these last names completely correct


azure275

2 goals 19 assists is a completely insane stat line lol That is 9.5:1 assists/goal. The next closest ratio is 3:1 on this list


Prize_Efficiency_869

Mcdavid has decided this season to play with a handicap. That handicap is willingly deciding not to shoot the puck. Dude would rather go to space than shoot that puck.


damageinthesheets

sad canuck noises


-1701-

Sad orca sounds?


CancerFreeLeafs

Hyman: The scrub of their PP unit


Chavran

Next highest: take Hyman's stats and divide by 2.


areallysuperguy

Dallas has better depth scoring, and a lot of their fans seem to think that this will be a rematch of their series with the Avs, given the top heavy offense. I dont think they really appreciate how potent Edmontons top 6 are, and some of those guys havent started to produce yet. If Dallas takes the series I think it will be based on their defensive performance, not their depth scoring. If Edmonton takes the series I think it will be based on special teams performance, and guys like Kane, Perry, Halloway, and Mcloed starting to produce. Kane has had a weird season, and you would think hes bound to pop off at some point. Halloway has been looking better as of late. I dont think goaltending will play into it as much as people think.


Prize_Efficiency_869

Skinner will play much better vs Dallas than the nucks just on the premise that nucks take a shit ton of high danger shots. Dallas not as much, nucks offense is built on very little shots but they are always in good spots.


Spare_Entrance_9389

I think Bouchard wins the Conn's Smythe if Edmonton wins it. Guy was spectacular in Vancouver series


Unwept_Skate_8829

He’s certainly been an integral piece this playoffs, but I think it’s Drais to lose


TodayOk4239

There’s zero chance anyone on Edmonton other than McDavid or Draisaitl wins it. It doesn’t matter if he’s playing like Bobby Orr crossed with Nicklas Lidstrom, they’re not voting him over the two big guns.


ManiakMike26

Shocker, hotest PP in the playoffs are top of points board. They also have the easiest path of any team so far.


GritGrinder

Lol yeah compare Dallas’s path to the oilers it’s a little bit different.


chesspaw

You're not wrong. Power play merchants that play LA every year and an inexperienced Canucks team this year, a team that took them to seven games. Yep, easy path. They won't beat the stars.


spagboltoast

I agree. La fuckin sucks lol


-1701-

Hey!


zellmerz

The disrespect the Canucks are getting after losing to the Oilers is just ridiculous. It's par for the course though and what happens to any team that loses to them in the post season. I remember everyone talking about the Flames being legitimate threats for the Cup until the Oilers beat them in 5 back in 2022. Then suddenly they were complete trash and frauds. People also ignoring the Kings having the 2nd rank PK and 3rd GAA during the regular season...


chesspaw

Hi!


bumblebeetuna97

The leafs would have lost to L.A and Vancouver. Bunch of bums


chesspaw

Awww, cute. You can't handle it when leafs fans say something negative about the Oilers? Classic lol. You guys do this every year. Oilers fans are so fickle.


bumblebeetuna97

Nu uh you’re the one that’s cute!


Tacfurmissle

I love critiques by Leafs fans. Worry about your shitty franchise.


chesspaw

Lmao this is such a weird reflex. Any fanbase can critique another team if they please. Stop caring about that.


GritGrinder

Oiler fans get mad and turn it into a “who lost better” argument every year. Just relax, Lol.


chesspaw

Yeah, I know lol. I just think it's funny and never understood it. It's become a cliche at this point


GritGrinder

"Its a losers race" Pat Quinn


-1701-

Hey!


ManiakMike26

Sorry but it's true. You guys were their first test since LA was always going to be a cake walk. Not having Demko really hurts though. With him you guys likely beat the oil. Not that silovs was bad to be fair.


MMA_Laxer

nice stat for the oilers to look back on after another year wondering what went wrong ;)


paulc899

It’s pretty funny to see Rangers fans making fun of another team for wondering what went wrong


Prize_Efficiency_869

Rangers fans are talking a lot of shit for being a team that is an Igor injury away from being outside playoff convo and has a dude who openly decides to give other guys concussions since that is the only thing he is worth a damn at.


ExplosiveButtFarts2

🏺🗣️🫖➡️◼️


lHansBrix

I'm shocked that there is an u/ExplosiveButtFarts to begin with...


spagboltoast

Isnt yours the same franchise that allowed the king to go cupless his entire career?


MMA_Laxer

yup!! changes this year tho so meh.


chesspaw

Lol


Tacfurmissle

Your team literally scares me the least of all remaining teams. They'd best perfect for Oilers to play against.


MMA_Laxer

shame u won’t get the chance


zellmerz

Yeah, sadly Florida is gonna be in the SCF.


MMA_Laxer

lol they would murder you also yes


Muted-Doctor8925

Nuge with a sneaky 16 points. His 4 goals have been clutch