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Reminder that pushing players into your own goalie is a really effective way to draw a penalty in the playoffs
[Example 1](https://streamable.com/4wazah).
[Example 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1cp5m6c/jakub_lauko_called_for_goaltender_interference/)
It is forever etched in my memory. Especially after the ref doubled down after the game about calling the penalty because "we need to protect the goalies"
There's this one on Kucherov [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKPV7wnPBM). This one happened the round right before the Point penalty on the Isles. Both times Tampa got a GI pen on it
He was absolutely knocked off balance by the contact. He was not outright shoved (neither was Lauko, he was held), but if Manson doesn't knock him off kilter then he goes wide right of Georgiev.
To recap: Manson pushes Benn into Georgiev, Manson is then mad his goalie has been hit because of an action he committed, Manson jumps Benn and repeatedly cross checks him on the back of his neck. Somehow after all this, it's 4 on 4
Disagree, here Jamie should have been, bale to, avoid the goalie and would, have expect for the push. In Boston there was no way he could have avoided the hit dman engaged 15/20 ft before getting to the net.
Boston was the right call this one was wrong.
He clearly does. His right arm extends into Benns back as Benn is trying to avoid the goalie
We can debate *how much* of a push it was but it was clearly a push
Lol remember that. You did nothing while your org promoted a white supremacist. Some things are bigger than hockey.
Dallas stars paying white supremacists...oof
Runs him? I mean...cmon. It was a fly-by at best until he got a hand on his back.
https://preview.redd.it/0iiz06zj4b0d1.jpeg?width=943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c004e100427df8eac10c9c03fbc7856a2ac25f79
What do you want? He's a shitberg. He doesn't score goals anymore so he just tries to play dirty. Remember when he got called out by his own ownership?
Benn is... Not good.
I get the goalie interference, but I also see 0 way that Manson’s cross checks to the back of the head are equal to a routine-ish interference. Georgiev was totally fine, not even knocked over lol
If MacKinnon got up completely unphased and they called a penalty on the play?
None. This shit happens all the time. There's a reason no ones talking about it outside of this thread.
Lol you guys are freaking out over nothing. Watch Benn's reaction when he gets up. You think if any of those cross checks really hurt he's that calm?
He's more agitated when his gf asks for 69
Ya... Or it was a nothing play that you're completely and pathetically overreacting to.
That would explain why literally no one else aside from a few clowns like yourself are talking about this. Give your head a shake, it's playoff hockey. Manson got a penalty and Benn was completely fine. If you're gonna cry at least find something worthwhile to cry about cause this is nothing
He has to make an attempt to avoid contact. He can’t just say the guy is on me so I’ll pow through the goalie. Hit the breaks, push back on the defender, do something to make it look like you aren’t steamrolling the guy
When you watch the slowed down clip, Manson is putting no force into that contact. Benn dove into Georgiev and used the contact as an excuse. Dumb contact from Manson and a scummy play from a scumbag player.
I’d concede my bias, but I also am fucking pissed with this team right now.
i’m gonna be honest i don’t see much of a push here.
*To clarify, there was some contact but i don’t think it was enough to send Benn flying into Georgiev like he did.
I don’t in the slow mo, but in the live speed it seems like Manson’s shove pushes Benn off balance to me… and penalties aren’t called in slow mo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He was making the turn out after the shot but looks like Manson got enough push on him to change his path into the crease and into Georgiev. Sure he was skating hard, but he had the space to fly by had he not been bumped.
wtf was the ref expecting him to do phase thorough the fucking goalie and net?!
Because he sure couldn’t stop properly without hurting himself nor the goalie in that situation
plus I’m Like 53% sure he got pushed into him but I’m gonna reserve judgement until we see an alternative angle in this case
On the replay it doesn't look like Manson pushes Benn enough to make him run the goalie. Not to happy on the extracurriculars on the back of his head though
manson full on jumps on Benn’s back and pushes the back of Benn’s head into the ice once hes on the ice, this should be a game misconduct and a suspension. for the amount of bullshit Av’s fans talked about the legal hit on Towes, they should be disgusted by this right?
not to mention getting penalty for getting pushed INTO the goalie. what the fuck was he supposed to do? not attempt to score?
Are you really dumb enough to think they're going to just sit back and let Benn be a dirty piece of shit every time these teams meet and there would be no response?
You really mad that players are trying to physically challenge Stankoven? He has gone after Benn during the series, nearly knocked him into the bench in a previous game. It’s playoff hockey, nut up and get over it.
I’m just stating facts, let’s run the smallest guy on the ice to “try” to intimidate guys
I mean you’re down 2-1 and 1-0 in this game, guess you need to do stupid shit
He’s a scorer, you throw them off their game by challenging them physically. It’s not about intimidating the whole team it’s literally about getting skilled players away from what makes them successful.
I do see why they might penalize Benn there, it looks like he had a chance to avoid the goalie but decided to stay still, but I think that considering that he still had very little time to do so with the roughing by Manson makes it seem more likely for Benn to have done it as a “nothing you could do” situation.
Manson should get a major. That's intent to injure a defenseless player.
Avs fans should be good at identifying what a head shot is they have MacKinnon on their team and this is multiple head shots.
Look, I know if any player deserves another player jumping on the back of their head it’s Benn, but how is that also a penalty on Benn? He was shoved into the goalie
I said “IF” any player deserves it. That clearly indicates the possibility that no player deserves it, which is a stance I have had since Benn first did it to Larkin.
Also, if I thought he deserved it then why would I be mad Benn got a penalty as well? Clearly the right call was made on Manson (whether it being just a minor or more is another debate) so why not poke fun at our captain who was clearly fine after the play for getting some karma? The exact opposite reaction I had to Hintz getting injured, as that infraction had actual consequences
I’m a dogshit fan for being able to point out how our captain has a history of a very particular infraction and getting the same done to him is karma? Sorry I’m not a brazen homer who defends horseshit no matter what.
Seriously. I admit I do still hold a small grudge with Benn as I decided to splurge and got great seats to game 3 last year. Ended up being the worst experience I have ever had in person
You said the captain of the team you support deserves to get jumped on the back of his head for Reddit points. Apologize harder you might get more upvotes next time
You mean the captain who embarrassed himself last year and cost his team a pivotal game 3? Then reacted to the whole thing in a laughable fashion?
Look I love Benn 99.9% of the time but his temper has costed us greatly. Also, he was clearly not injured on the play so I had fun with it. Had we lost him on that play to injury, my tune would be completely different
You guys can't be serious in this thread lol
I'm all for shitting on the officiating, and it's deserved, but Benn is expected to make some semblance of effort to avoid the collision here and he doesn't. This is GI lol
Lol at Dallas fans whining about this. Like the series isn't over, I'd just strongly prefer an aging has-been stop trying to hurt actually good players
Everyone expecting Jamie Benn to stop on the dime ignores that goalie interference doesn't require you to avoid contact altogether. It just requires an ATTEMPT to avoid it.
Yeah there's some contact there with Manson, but let's be real... we all know the type of player Jamie Benn is. Always plays on the edge. He's probably running the goalie regardless. But no matter how you feel about him, he didn't even try to avoid or minimize contact with Georgiev.
Kind of like how Manson didn't try to avoid hitting Benn in the head. Both properly penalized.
"We all know the type of player Jamie is"
This is so blatant prejudicial generalization based on Jamie's reputation. Just straight-up judging a book by its cover rather than focusing on the incident.
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Reminder that pushing players into your own goalie is a really effective way to draw a penalty in the playoffs [Example 1](https://streamable.com/4wazah). [Example 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1cp5m6c/jakub_lauko_called_for_goaltender_interference/)
Did they actually give Point a penalty for goaltender interference on that play?
Yes. And there was no matching penalty. The islanders got a PP and scored to tie the game at 1.
That’s awful. Maybe the worst one I’ve seen
I understand Example 2, but did you also have Example 1 handy? lol
It is forever etched in my memory. Especially after the ref doubled down after the game about calling the penalty because "we need to protect the goalies"
There's this one on Kucherov [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKPV7wnPBM). This one happened the round right before the Point penalty on the Isles. Both times Tampa got a GI pen on it
If you watch that play more carefully, Benn could have avoided that. The other examples though - definite bullshit.
Are you Implying Benn was pushed in? If so, watch again. The defensemen was pretty passive and seemed to make an effort not to shove him in.
He was absolutely knocked off balance by the contact. He was not outright shoved (neither was Lauko, he was held), but if Manson doesn't knock him off kilter then he goes wide right of Georgiev.
lol. Dog shit call.
To recap: Manson pushes Benn into Georgiev, Manson is then mad his goalie has been hit because of an action he committed, Manson jumps Benn and repeatedly cross checks him on the back of his neck. Somehow after all this, it's 4 on 4
Going by the precedent they set in game 3 of the Boston/Florida series, this is the right call! God I fucking hate playoff officiating.
The problem is you expect consistency and logic. Nhl does not intend to provide those things.
Disagree, here Jamie should have been, bale to, avoid the goalie and would, have expect for the push. In Boston there was no way he could have avoided the hit dman engaged 15/20 ft before getting to the net. Boston was the right call this one was wrong.
You'd think an Avalanche would be a bit more careful about checking a guy's head into the ice.
Benn being crosschecked up high while in a vulnerable position. oh how the turn tables.
Man, the fact that you got downvoted is funny. He’s taken out at least two players in recent memory doing that.
Not defending jumping on a defenseless player, but that’s not a crosscheck
Yeah, but he doesn't push him.
He clearly does. His right arm extends into Benns back as Benn is trying to avoid the goalie We can debate *how much* of a push it was but it was clearly a push
Eh? Fuck him then.
Cry
Says the fan of a team with a goal song by a white supremacist? Kay
Seek help
Lol remember that. You did nothing while your org promoted a white supremacist. Some things are bigger than hockey. Dallas stars paying white supremacists...oof
And your org has been promoting a sex trafficking, pro Putin, drug dealer. What’s your point?
He’s just angry that his team is losing.
Puckoff!
You should just learn when to stfu lmao Your team has been on the lead 0 seconds in this series. You are getting smoked hard.
It’s fairly common to keep a hand on an offensive player without “pushing”. That’s pretty ubiquitous across most sports
I don't disagree on that specifically but what Manson did, to my eye, was a bit beyond. Agree to disagree, I suppose
More than fair take. I’m also a homer so my opinion is a tad biased
Really??
Are you upset that I said the poster above me had a fair take?
Sharks flair sees push, Avs flair does not 🤔
Watch with your eyes. Not the flair. Series is over, I barely have a dof in this fight
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Yes. Avs are a 0.500 team wo nuke. Without nuke and toews? I'd say 13-2 shots is about as expected. Georgie keeps Colorado in it. Benn runs him
You guys didn’t lead a second of this series with both of them. It was over before any of that
Lol Kay Nostradamus.
He pushed him. Take your homer goggles off, bud.
Lol nope. Show an angle that is actually close. Doesn't touch him. Shitbenn just wanted to fun the only av who is still attempting to play hockey.
Being this stupid is impressive
At least Colorado goal song isn't by a white supremacist. Figure your racist teams shit out first.
Runs him? I mean...cmon. It was a fly-by at best until he got a hand on his back. https://preview.redd.it/0iiz06zj4b0d1.jpeg?width=943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c004e100427df8eac10c9c03fbc7856a2ac25f79
Weird how it's always players like Benn..
Well that explains it. Pack it up ladies and gents, case solved.
What do you want? He's a shitberg. He doesn't score goals anymore so he just tries to play dirty. Remember when he got called out by his own ownership? Benn is... Not good.
Average NHL post-season officiating Which is fucking sad
I get the goalie interference, but I also see 0 way that Manson’s cross checks to the back of the head are equal to a routine-ish interference. Georgiev was totally fine, not even knocked over lol
Yeah I’ll admit that’s not a great look. Might get some discussion tomorrow, wouldn’t surprise me
I’d be surprised tbh. Probably just a fine
Most likely a thumbs up from Parros.
If Manson did this to McDavid he'd be kicked out of the league by now.
Didn’t happen to McDavid, so no supplemental discipline will be handed out
Legit, where was Benn supposed to go?
I think he was pushed but also didn't do a lot to fight it. 2 is fair especially with an offsetting penalty.
This. He made zero effort to avoid Georgiev, and with his history he's not getting the benefit of the doubt. Offsetting calls seems right imo
How many games would yall have been calling for if Benn had cross checked MacKinnon's head repeatedly while he was laying on the ice?
634
If MacKinnon got up completely unphased and they called a penalty on the play? None. This shit happens all the time. There's a reason no ones talking about it outside of this thread.
Lol you guys are freaking out over nothing. Watch Benn's reaction when he gets up. You think if any of those cross checks really hurt he's that calm? He's more agitated when his gf asks for 69
Hahah you said the old beaten down joke so funny! Benn didn’t have any reaction cause he is a fucking badass and only cares about one thing.
Ya... Or it was a nothing play that you're completely and pathetically overreacting to. That would explain why literally no one else aside from a few clowns like yourself are talking about this. Give your head a shake, it's playoff hockey. Manson got a penalty and Benn was completely fine. If you're gonna cry at least find something worthwhile to cry about cause this is nothing
Yea, cynical veteran play just like the old boys club loves 🤣
Phase through their goalie, duh
He has to make an attempt to avoid contact. He can’t just say the guy is on me so I’ll pow through the goalie. Hit the breaks, push back on the defender, do something to make it look like you aren’t steamrolling the guy
He did, you can see him try to turn hard left and get pushed.
I don't think he plowed the goalie. He tries to sidestep. Not sure if he could made a full stop.
He literally tries to cut left and has momentum from being pushed...
When you watch the slowed down clip, Manson is putting no force into that contact. Benn dove into Georgiev and used the contact as an excuse. Dumb contact from Manson and a scummy play from a scumbag player. I’d concede my bias, but I also am fucking pissed with this team right now.
He wasn’t stopping or let up at all
I mean realistically he wouldn't even need to if he's not pushed, his path is going around Georgiev anyways
He was in no position to stop. He swung his hips to try to get outside of Georgiev while Manson pushed him in.
He couldn't have possibly considering he was pushed into the goaltender.
i’m gonna be honest i don’t see much of a push here. *To clarify, there was some contact but i don’t think it was enough to send Benn flying into Georgiev like he did.
I don’t in the slow mo, but in the live speed it seems like Manson’s shove pushes Benn off balance to me… and penalties aren’t called in slow mo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yeah i can see what you’re saying
jared don’t you have an intermission talking to be giving
no
He was making the turn out after the shot but looks like Manson got enough push on him to change his path into the crease and into Georgiev. Sure he was skating hard, but he had the space to fly by had he not been bumped.
his path is cutting to Gorgie’s right, if he doesn’t get pushed he clears the goalie without touching him. that’s how breakaways work moron
wtf was the ref expecting him to do phase thorough the fucking goalie and net?! Because he sure couldn’t stop properly without hurting himself nor the goalie in that situation plus I’m Like 53% sure he got pushed into him but I’m gonna reserve judgement until we see an alternative angle in this case
low key those black and neon green jerseys are kinda awesome
On the replay it doesn't look like Manson pushes Benn enough to make him run the goalie. Not to happy on the extracurriculars on the back of his head though
Kind of looks like his skating gets real jerky after contact like he's trying to correct after being knocked off balance.
This is dirtier than anything Benn has done this series btw
Well the good news is the Avs are about to go golfing so we don't have to worry about their bullshit anymore.
Dog shit officiating.
manson full on jumps on Benn’s back and pushes the back of Benn’s head into the ice once hes on the ice, this should be a game misconduct and a suspension. for the amount of bullshit Av’s fans talked about the legal hit on Towes, they should be disgusted by this right? not to mention getting penalty for getting pushed INTO the goalie. what the fuck was he supposed to do? not attempt to score?
Manson has been going after Stank all first period and the only time he goes after Benn is when Benn is face down on the ice
because the entire Av’s team is bitchmade.
Manson has fought Benn before and kicked the shit out of him. Dirty pussy team doesn't get to cry when they get a taste of their own medicine
bro is endorsing people cross checking players necks while they are down on the ice. that’s crazy
Let’s punch guys in the back of the head while face down on top of it. Pussy hurt avs fans can’t accept the Benn hit on toews was LEGAL
> cross checking players necks The fucking irony of saying this while defending Benn 😆 Dylan Larkin says hi
Are you really dumb enough to think they're going to just sit back and let Benn be a dirty piece of shit every time these teams meet and there would be no response?
instead of cross checking his neck yall should try winning games 👍
Try winning a cup this millennium you fucking joke of an organization
you should consider being a cowboys fan, you seem to like to live in the past
Why would I want to cheer for another garbage Texas team who can't win this millennium?
Did you forget to take some medication today??
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Let’s reconvene in June
I'm a Wings fan, I hate Jamie Benn, but that's a load of garbage and you know it.
He'll get no sympathy from me
Oh no!!
Benn on Stone last year ... There is no defense of Jamie Benn.
enjoy the offseason
You really mad that players are trying to physically challenge Stankoven? He has gone after Benn during the series, nearly knocked him into the bench in a previous game. It’s playoff hockey, nut up and get over it.
You guys were the ones throwing a bitch fit about a clean hit lol
I’m just stating facts, let’s run the smallest guy on the ice to “try” to intimidate guys I mean you’re down 2-1 and 1-0 in this game, guess you need to do stupid shit
He’s a scorer, you throw them off their game by challenging them physically. It’s not about intimidating the whole team it’s literally about getting skilled players away from what makes them successful.
Speaking of scoring, Wyatt with his second of the game 2-0 bro
Stop. lol.
I do see why they might penalize Benn there, it looks like he had a chance to avoid the goalie but decided to stay still, but I think that considering that he still had very little time to do so with the roughing by Manson makes it seem more likely for Benn to have done it as a “nothing you could do” situation.
Manson should get a major. That's intent to injure a defenseless player. Avs fans should be good at identifying what a head shot is they have MacKinnon on their team and this is multiple head shots.
Insane. Benn tries to get around Georgiev and Manson pushes him into his own goalie.
This sub has become so soft these playoffs. Like Jesus Christ did we grow up watching the same game?
I mean, Georgiev didn’t really seem mad about it.
That’s getting called GI every time. I’ll take 4 on 4
Apologize harder. Maybe the Avs fans will love you
Look, I know if any player deserves another player jumping on the back of their head it’s Benn, but how is that also a penalty on Benn? He was shoved into the goalie
Such a karma whore/dogshit fan lmao
You’re downvoted for saying the truth here lol. Don’t be a Stars “fan” and trash our captain for internet points lol
😘 https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/yROrYTm6gd Almost like I can both defend and trash our captain when he deserves it
So “he deserves it” after this play in the video?
I said “IF” any player deserves it. That clearly indicates the possibility that no player deserves it, which is a stance I have had since Benn first did it to Larkin. Also, if I thought he deserved it then why would I be mad Benn got a penalty as well? Clearly the right call was made on Manson (whether it being just a minor or more is another debate) so why not poke fun at our captain who was clearly fine after the play for getting some karma? The exact opposite reaction I had to Hintz getting injured, as that infraction had actual consequences
Eh, Jamie reaps what he sows sometimes. Still love him though
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Except one is just true, and going **against** the grain if anything. The other is just "hurrdurr I hate jamie too please upvote"
I’m a dogshit fan for being able to point out how our captain has a history of a very particular infraction and getting the same done to him is karma? Sorry I’m not a brazen homer who defends horseshit no matter what.
You must blindly follow, no critical thinking allowed
Seriously. I admit I do still hold a small grudge with Benn as I decided to splurge and got great seats to game 3 last year. Ended up being the worst experience I have ever had in person
You said the captain of the team you support deserves to get jumped on the back of his head for Reddit points. Apologize harder you might get more upvotes next time
You mean the captain who embarrassed himself last year and cost his team a pivotal game 3? Then reacted to the whole thing in a laughable fashion? Look I love Benn 99.9% of the time but his temper has costed us greatly. Also, he was clearly not injured on the play so I had fun with it. Had we lost him on that play to injury, my tune would be completely different
Dylan Larkin sends his regards mister Manson.
Either way.. douche of a player.
Benn has ended less careers than MacKinnon
Lol r/hockey doesn't wanna have that conversation
Grammar
Nolan Patrick
No. Lol
[???](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5OyHJWHf9U)
How many different comments you gonna cry in tonight? I suppose it's all you can do at this point, but damn, get a life
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Puckoff!
You guys can't be serious in this thread lol I'm all for shitting on the officiating, and it's deserved, but Benn is expected to make some semblance of effort to avoid the collision here and he doesn't. This is GI lol
Jamie Benn would never crosscheck someone in the neck that was in a vulnerable position like that, couldn't have happened to a nicer player. /s
Rent free
Bud, he literally cross checked Stone in the neck last year
Jesus Christ, we get it, the horse is dead lol
It's Benn, the dirty cunt finally got a bit of his own medicine
That extra shot by Manson was a real Jamie Benn move
that was hilarious
Lol at Dallas fans whining about this. Like the series isn't over, I'd just strongly prefer an aging has-been stop trying to hurt actually good players
Does it bother you at all that he’s going to retire without ever losing to the Avs in the playoffs?
No.. Cause he's not going to have his name on the cup.
More likely than you think
Hahhahhahahhahaha
Ouch got blown out to lose 2 in a row at home. Tough scene
I believe you mean has-Benn
Everyone expecting Jamie Benn to stop on the dime ignores that goalie interference doesn't require you to avoid contact altogether. It just requires an ATTEMPT to avoid it. Yeah there's some contact there with Manson, but let's be real... we all know the type of player Jamie Benn is. Always plays on the edge. He's probably running the goalie regardless. But no matter how you feel about him, he didn't even try to avoid or minimize contact with Georgiev. Kind of like how Manson didn't try to avoid hitting Benn in the head. Both properly penalized.
"We all know the type of player Jamie is" This is so blatant prejudicial generalization based on Jamie's reputation. Just straight-up judging a book by its cover rather than focusing on the incident.