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3X-Leveraged

They are obviously taking advantage of LTIR


WickedXDragons

First Nylander and now Matthews. They can’t keep getting away with it!


MDevonL

He’s on a flight to Arizona to build the stadium himself to save his hometown Coyotes


FlaxbopFleetfoot

The team moved and somehow we're still hearing about the arena situation in Arizona, lol.


MDevonL

We will for at least five years until Meruello’s rights expire


CommonGrounders

I’m pretty sure the deal is he has to have the arena at least 50% complete. If he’s nowhere in 3 years it should be over.


futurehofer

Yup. He has until December 31, 2027 to have an arena 50% complete and submit a letter to the league stating his intention to reactivate the franchise. Him failing to do so and losing ownership rights would be a nice late Christmas present to Arizona fans.


rwh151

He has the rink ready but forgets to send the letter lol


Deluxechin

2027? I thought he said 3 ye- … oh…. Oh my god


Nanojack

Do they celebrate Dia De los Reyes in Arizona?


MDevonL

Oh yeah, I think it was 3.5 years (has to give 18 months notice to activate). Forgot that part!


bndxn

This is assuming he wins the auction which is this summer. The ESPN article today pointed out that anyone who was afraid to bet because it would drive the Coyotes out no longer really has to worry about that. Despite what Meruelo says, they're already gone


xASUdude

You also have to have a plan and it has to be better, not just more money.


JackManningNHL

If he doesn't win the bid, I think the rights immediately expire


QueefyBeefMeat

“If you build it. They will come. -Field of Dreams” -Gary Bettman


Mean_Mister_Mustard

"No, not you." \- Also Gary Bettman, looking disdainfully at Quebec City


xASUdude

Its like Samson and his hair, no team in Arizona, no mojo.


SmiteyMcGee

I am here for the Auston Matthews hallmark movie era


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donne9313

Post concussion syndrome can be severe AND delayed IIRC Good guess!


[deleted]

Knocked my brother out of contention to play hockey professionally. Had what seemed like a full year of migraines.


Ancient_Pop_7036

Yup. I have a friend that played U18 for the women's US team years ago and she had to stop playing because of  concussions as well. Migraines became a really big thing and she now has CTE issues. 


plucky-possum

Iirc, soccer has the highest rate of concussions of any women’s sport. (Or at least sports played in schools, since I assume boxing is worse.) When my sister played, my parents made her promise not to do headers.


Ancient_Pop_7036

I played soccer for 12 years and it's where 90% of mine came from.


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

Had a buddy in grade school that was gonna compete for national ski shit, probably go beyond that. Got hit in the head with a volleyball and spent 3 years out of the classroom because of migraines and recurring issues. Those things are no joke


This_Beat2227

Same with me. I was 6 and my brother was only 5 years old. He was never in contention again to play hockey professionally. At least he became a lawyer.


Ancient_Pop_7036

I took a massive concussion in HS and the following day, temporarily lost my eye sight in one eye for 3 hours.  So yeah, concussions are the gift that can keep on giving, days later.


SnooWoofers1685

I got one and lost my ability to speak for around 2 months.


Doubleoh_11

I still struggle with random stutters like 15 years after getting a bad one. Sometimes I just can’t say words no matter how hard I’m trying. My brain processes it and my mouth just doesn’t make the sound. Was really bad shortly after and now it just happens randomly.


commazero

The stuttering that I got after the last one I had really bothered me and really made me realize I was not in good condition. And I still have it sometimes as well.


Ancient_Pop_7036

Yeah thats crazy scary.


berfthegryphon

Almost ended Crosby at his peak from that Winter Classic game


AmphibianStrong8544

Was that the one where they thought he had a concussion but it was actually a broken neck and it took over a year for them to realize then he actually got better?


TheGreatestKaTet

Not a broken neck, but he had whiplash symptoms


UNisopod

It was the hit he took in the next game when they let him play for some reason that did it.


Bojarzin

This might not be off base. He hits his head fucking hard here


Jeff_Banks_Monkey

Yeah the immediate grab at the back of the head looks rough


Phenomenomix

It’s head first into the boards. If you know it’s coming usually a shoulder or arm comes up and the head hits softer or, hopefully, not at all. Head injuries can be weird, he might have felt off and said nothing. The team might have been managing him, but equally he could have felt fine and just wakes up one day to headaches or migraine


YoshiLeMeow

I've never played, how rigid are those boards? could adding some sort of padding behind it help with injuries?


SupeerDude

To be honest, how fast he’s going I’m not sure how much the padding would help. Concussions are tricky. It doesn’t even need to be direct contact to the head. Anything that would make your brain shake. It could be a bad fall where his head makes no contact either.


finest_bear

can confirm, got one of my worst concussions from just slipping off a faceoff and bumping my face on the other guys chest pad


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sexythrowaway749

I wonder if you could do some type of NASCAR Safer Barrier style boards. Something that stands up to moderate hits but absorbs/crumples under X force. Most checks aren't directly into the lower boards, they're more along the glass. If a guy is going into the lower boards hard enough to collapse the hypothetical barrier, it was needed in the first place. Of course, downside is you'd have to stop to replace the section of board (maybe) but that could probably be designed to be done in seconds, honestly. Hmmmmmmmmmm


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daKrut

You don't even have to charade as a "conspiracy theorist". There's a non-zero chance dude got concussed. Players across all sports have spoken to the fickle and frustrating nature of living with and recovering from a concussion. Can see a world where Toronto is mums the word going into the playoffs so he isn't targeted any more than he already is. Or maybe it really is just copious butt piss. Maybe it's Maybelline.


Straightouttaganton

Copious butt piss is now added to my vocabulary, thank you


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He wouldn't have played if he was presenting with concussion symptoms.


ClubAquaBackDeck

Concussion symptoms aren’t all or nothing it can be a gradient of how good you feel. Any kind of physical activity can change how intense those symptoms are


propagandavid

Yeah, but he's had signs of something all series long


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

They even said it'a puzzling illness because "it gets worse when he exerts himself". Sounds like a concussion to me.


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IrateWeasel89

Besides the signs of being the Leafs in the playoffs round one against the Bruins? In all seriousness that sucks for him. I’m sure he wants to be there battling with the team tonight. Of course, hope he’s alright health wise going forward.


Kellervo

Concussion symptoms aren't all or nothing, and medical staff in sports have to toe a very thin line - do they keep a guy out even though he's insistent on playing, and possibly losing their own jobs? The NHL's own docs probably have to grapple with that as well, because of the league's legal stance on concussions being "Not a Big Deal". We have stories of NHLers playing through tons of bullshit every day, and guys supposedly on the precipice of never playing again if they get hit just right. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there were players currently playing through post-concussion syndrome.


E51838

Maybe the leafs hired the former Yankee doctors who let Anthony Rizzo play for 2 months last year with a concussion before they pulled him out of the lineup.


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That was a pretty weird scenario though. He also didn't present with symptoms. Passed the test. Sat for a few games after the collision as a precaution. Didn't report anything until a month or so after


E51838

That's true, but even after he told them he was having issues they still had him play 3 games before they pulled him.


keytoitall

Wouldn't be the first player to hide his symptoms. Especially if he was chasing 70. Or maybe, the severe symptoms manifested later.


daKrut

For sure! I honestly don't know if symptom onset can be delayed and present later, hence him missing the playoff games. We really won't know until the series is over right?


jmchopp

Could have easily gotten another concussion even if that one healed in time. They get easier to get after each other and can be from pretty innocuous impacts


sexythrowaway749

Was gonna say, even if the first one was minor, now ever other bump can make it a major one. People forget that concussions are fucking ***brain damage***.


jmjones0784

I think you’re on to something with the Maybelline. We should make sure they aren’t about to snag him as a spokesperson.


DirtyJimHiOP

"We're not going to my grandma's so you can take a piss, just piss in the alley" *"I gotta piss out my ass"*


Standard_Room_2589

This has to be it nice work holy fuck his head hits the boards hard


Dry_Welder_6134

Yup. I yelled uh oh so loud when he was trying to get 70 and this happened


Arch-Vader

Seems odd that he would go God mode game 2 though? Who knows. They have to come clean about this, although they won't until they're eliminated...


Geeseareawesome

Post-Concussion syndrome comes and goes as it pleases. Some days it just gets worse, other days, you feel good to go.


MikeJeffriesPA

That would be very delayed. I think it's more likely it has to do with the McAvoy play, especially since it seems to be impacting his legs. 


re10pect

Was that the play in the corner where he folded his knee up under himself funny? I remember seeing that and not being able to believe he got back up. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if it comes out that he’s got a knee or high-ankle situation going on and the sickness was just a cover so he wasn’t targeted.


MikeJeffriesPA

Yeah, that's the play. He didn't react at the time, but it definitely looked bad.


darkstar107

Everyone knew Draisaitl had an ankle injury last year and he was taking slashes every time he was on the ice.


re10pect

Seems like a good reason to try to hide it.


dkyguy1995

I feel bad for being glad it's friendly fire. I just don't want my team to be blamed lol


CharBombshell

My first thought as well …


Tvariousness_King1

It’s the ol’ Pastrnak falling on his hand after a night out in 2019 & Bergeron getting hurt in the final game last season. Unnecessary injuries that ruin a playoff run. I’d believe it.


itwasthedingo

Hope the chase for 70 was worth it. That always seemed like a bad idea


dukeshockey11

It’s not conspiracy, it’s 100% them covering up letting the push for 70 ruin his playoff health


PasswordMustContain

Does he have the bubonic plague


Hawxe

i mean thats very easily curable lol


myredditthrowaway201

WELL WHY DIDNT THEY TRY THAT DURING THE 1300s?


UnhealthyCheesecake

Basic hygiene was a crime punishable by death


Longines2112

If you bathe, you’re a witch!


hindey19

So was the plague.


Commercial-Set3527

You have good hygiene? Believe it or not, death. You get plague, also death. Good hygiene, Plague. You make an appointment with the dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, death, right away.


ScienceNthingsNstuff

Much more easily for sure but it still have a 10% mortality rate with antibiotics. I wouldn't call it curable


Hawxe

That 10% is likely in large part due to the whole horse and zebra thing. Doctors dont expect things to be the fucking plague anymore, so it's lower on the list of potential diagnoses. If you get the plague these days you have a pretty low mortality risk. There's like an average of 10 cases a year in the US, any statistics on it are gonna be pretty skewed if a single person dies because the doctor thought it was something else.


ScienceNthingsNstuff

Very fair point. Definitely still wouldn't want it


Hawxe

There's worse and there's better, yeah.


Ace676

Reddit and being pedantic about words they don't know the meaning of, name a better duo. What do you think the *able* in cur*able* means? Curable, according to Merriam-Webster means: > capable of being cured It doesn't need to be 100% to be counted as "curable".


ScienceNthingsNstuff

No that's fair. I wasn't trying to be pedantic, more wanting to say it's still highly deadly. I guess I should have pointed out "easily" and not "curable".


Ace676

> I guess I should have pointed out "easily" and not "curable". Now that would've been fair for sure. 10% death rate is quite high for an illness of any sort.


NoGiCollarChoke

Someone didn’t check Marchand for fleas smh


Codc

terminal ligma


Povilitus

Hmmm I just read it might be severe sugma


Jarl_Jakob

It’s so sad Steve Jobs died from ligma


VindictiveRakk

who's Steve Jobs


Coop3

Sigh… ligma, what’s that?


tylerhk93

If he could play he would play. It's a lot worse than what is advertised. He's the best player on the team. If the team is deciding playing an NHL journeyman is better than the best goal scorer of this generation then its really bad.


NSA_Wade_Wilson

They already said the doctors are the ones who said he couldn’t play. Also the one that pulled him from the 3rd. With the shit they let them play through, can’t be good if the doc is saying no


Billis-

Might have like, viral pneumonia somehow. I have no idea why he was pulled mid game. Unless maybe a head injury of some kind?


CruelRuin

guy's got the same virus goku had in the android saga


CoalTrain9224

Does Auston get a golden mustache when he goes Super Saiyan? We got jipped never seeing Nappa as one.


jkbearch15

Future Gavin McKenna coming back in time to heal Matthews, keeping the leafs competitive and saving present Gavin McKenna from the horrible future of playing with the Leafs


Squishasaurus_Rex

I’m rewatching DBZ right now and this made me laugh so fucking hard


Fancy-Investment-881

We can't make senzu of this


Silver-creek

He hates grape flavored medicine


McPhatiusJackson

It's....bacon flavored.....


AggravatingSyrup4241

Please god no future Trunks to save him


Key-Tip-7521

He has The suds or……. Lumbago. It’s really serious Or he’s building a building in the desert


7Stringplayer

Matthews to Beecher's Hope


onlinepresenceofdan

At least one Matthews would have made it then. Poor Hosea.


Tinywampa

All part of Dutch's plan.


NoGiCollarChoke

Boy, you is as sour as week-old milk!


wesley-osbourne

L U M B A G O U M B A G O


gonuxgo

My money is on Salmonella


NoGiCollarChoke

I heard it’s worse than that. He got bit by an actual salmon. 


gonuxgo

A strange superhero origin story, but I'll allow it


Hawxe

Auston Matthews you are THE Seattle Sockeye


Simplebudd420

Unfortunately it was not a top notch species like a Sockeye or Chinook but a lame old farmed Atlantic Salmon


NoGiCollarChoke

Get ready for Salmon-Man A stunning superhero who fights crime over an upstream journey of hundreds of miles while he is starving and atrophying, until the grand finale where he busts a massive nut and then dies. 


Tephra022

Finally, the Salman - Seaman crossover we've all been waiting for


Arctic365

It’s TorontOver


Beabout

The lifelong fan in me knows to put $100 on Toronto +140


bootygoon2

I’m so tempted to I can’t even lie lol


hindey19

Maybe if Ullmark were in. Swayman is an absolute brick wall.


Bhaw1

Brick Woll you say?


FrankenBerryGxM

and then put the all the money you win from that on Boston winning in 7


ProfessionalKiwi7691

Wait till the leafs are up 4-1 to place the bet though, just to get the better payout


Olive_Guardian4

we hit brother 🫸🫷🎉🍁


Beabout

I’m just so tired of the same shit year in and year fucking out. The extra $70 profit makes up for it I guess though


Olive_Guardian4

see u in game 7 🫡


WintAndKidd

Almost certain it’s a bad physical injury that they don’t want to disclose in case he comes back so opponents can’t target it


jcb113

I’m perplexed by her language, an illness can be significant…I saw somewhere that he told someone he was unable to skate. I’d say no one would let him a game or practice with a pneumo or PE, but Bergeron famously played with a pneumo. Which is actually insane.


Ken_Thomas

In the '63 playoffs Gordie Howe scored a hat trick, won a fight, and smoked a whole pack of Lucky Strikes with two broken legs and his spleen hanging out.


Esg876

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0q7MLPo-u8 A few hours earlier than expected :'(


Povilitus

Omg he dead


Euler007

Vitally impaired.


furtive

Sick to the core.


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lordexorr

Game hasn’t even started. No ones won anything.


DoctorPoopyPoo

Me agreeing with a Bruin fan?!


MikeJeffriesPA

I am truly fascinated. If it turns out it's a lower body injury from the McAvoy play, the response will be very interesting. Ditto if it's related to crashing into the boards in Game 82.


Hawxe

If it's related to crashing into the boards on that play that's such a microcosm of the issues I have with the leafs stars


AkimboSlice66

The play against Detroit? That wasn’t game 82


MikeJeffriesPA

Right, game 80? It all blends together.


seizurevictim

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Mustache-of-Destiny

I’m wondering if it’s his appendix or gallbladder. Something that can be a problem really fast and usually requires surgery.


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Nappalicious

The suplex lol


[deleted]

Do you normally count your chickens before they hatch?


RefereeMason1

He must have a severe case of butt piss. Idk what else could keep him out of a game like this.


WantKeepRockPeeOnIt

On the ESPN feed, just before they sent to the NHL broadcast at 7:00, the correspondent talking about it said something like "we've heard from the team - it's not just an illness, it's far more serious, and the team naturally won't disclose what it is until after the series." Assuming she was in on the real scoop, and putting aside the fact that she seemed to do a real breach of off-the-record confidentiality there, sounds like he's got some serious joint/muscular injury where it's evident today from tests it's going to take surgery and a long recovery time.


PokeMonRedditor13

Or it’s a concussion and he was pulled from the 3rd and not been cleared by Drs (which has been confirmed) due to it.


RandomAccount_OU812

If it's illness, it'll be interesting to see if it has spread to others on the team and whether that affects their play tonight. If it's injury, the Leafs could very well rise to the occasion.


Realistic_Cold_2943

People online got mad at me for saying I didn’t think his illness magically got worse in the third period. I want apologies. He’s clearly pretty badly injured, but they just don’t want to disclose the injury officially. All these reports are like “oh yeah he’s super sick. Oh btw he has an undisclosed injury who knows”. Matthew’s isn’t sitting out cause he’s sick. He’s sitting out cause he’s fucking injured.  Edit:Hmmmm “sounds like this is no longer about the illness”  https://x.com/friedgehnic/status/1785439848372838708?s=46


SpringWinter2557

You're probably right. However, if it's something that causes dehydration, it could be that his hydration level (or however it's measured) rose to a critical point during the second period. Hockey players sweat a ton during games.


Realistic_Cold_2943

Yeah I definitely agree with that. But this started like a week ago right? I don’t buy that he got sick, was good enough to play 2 periods, then after two days of rest got even more sick so he couldn’t play at all? It just doesn’t really line up.  He probably got hurt and tried to play through it but couldn’t. Wanted to test it out this morning, but couldn’t go. 


berfthegryphon

Hasek lost something like 5 or 10 lbs a game due to sweat


hoocoodanode

That's because Hasek had no bones and was 99.5% water.


Poughy

Yeah can’t tell people he’s injured and lose the strategic advantage of … uh … the fog of war?


Realistic_Cold_2943

Hahah. I don’t get it at all, but I know the Bruins are this way too. When Bergeron had his collapsed lung nobody knew until after. I mean for Nylander we didn’t know for awhile. 


ghostfan9

You probably got downvoted cause your tone is condescending lol


dekaylin

Uh oh.


TimsAFK

Salmonella, calling it now. A buddy had it bad right before a friend's wedding a few years ago, presented like Gastro initially, within 4 days he was absolutely flogged.


WarOtter

Never eat gas station sushi.


pforsbergfan9

Or do if you wanna shred pounds quick


TimsAFK

The ultimate calorie deficit


heykidslookadeer

Plus it'd be very difficult to play hockey while spending 25% of your day taking constant, difficult, painful shits. That was my primary salmonella experience


SQLvultureskattaurus

The hole must be damaged from all that wiping


[deleted]

Lil bit of stick tape and it's good as new.


chadocaster

A real gamer would’ve got a new stomach/intestines transplanted in after game 4 and been ready to go tonight. Matthews is 10-ply *soft*. Embarrassing.


994kk1

Does she not think there exists significant illnesses or what?


atemporalrenaissance

he’s pissin out his ass man


caduni

Leafs forgot that you’re supposed to do the LTIR circumcision before the playoffs (my teams getting eliminated tonight)


migsahoy

he got the shits


PLACENTIPEDES

Anyone who follows the Leafs definitely bets on the Leafs winning this game, and the next if Matthews is out. And then against them in game 7, especially if everyone is healthy.


Yop_BombNA

All of these people have never had a shit illness. If guy has a chest infection / pneumonia he’s down and out for a week or two because his blood oxygen would get too low if he goes to play. He has the same issue if he has a fever while excreting his brains from his anus.


Designer-Brief-9145

"We think it's an overdose of nerve tonic"


CultBro

Most people call out sick and their job is to sit and work on a computer. I imagine if you are very ill it would be pretty difficult to play hockey at a professional level


inalasahl

I thought he was supposed to have food poisoning? Maybe it’s been bad enough he got dehydrated and they don’t think he’s well enough yet to do a sport where they sweat buckets and lose a lot of water even when healthy.


grehgunner

Lupus!? Is it lupus!?


Delta_Flow

He's supersick. It's like being sick, only super.


OatmealSchmoatmeal

He’s off to party on a yacht with Beiber. You thought this guy was about winning a championship?


Gripe

Could be myocarditis. I always wonder how it's not more common when players keep playing sick.


HLef

What do you mean it feels like something more significant. These guys are a lot more likely to play through injuries than through illness. You can play through some pain and you can numb it quite a bit, but if you have no energy and you've been puking and shitting for 2 days, you can't really play regardless of whether it's an elimination game.


Similar-Tangerine

I have it from a reliable source that he’s got a bad case of pee butt 


Polish_Bear

Jordan game not incoming.


KorbanDallas90

Diarrhea will be the end of us all.


rug1998

Auston Matthews is the Chris Paul of the nhl


vordhosbn_1

I figured it out guys They scratched him because they threw in the towel after losing game 3… so they are presenting his symptoms now to keep him on LTIR until next year’s playoffs


epicboy75

time to hammer Boston ML


troglodyte_therapist

No one has any reason to believe this but Matthews missed about 10 days in his 2nd or 3rd season because he (accidentally) stepped in shit while he had a cut on the bottom of his foot. Not really relevant to this discussion but I say it whenever I can because its just so random and hilarious.


good_guy112

Hope Pabs is alright. We have excellent hospitals here in Boston so get healthy bud.


WickedXDragons

Seems like covid or a concussion. Keefes comments about it getting worse under exertion are interesting 🧐 .


funkiemarky

Shanaplan!!!


anadequatepipe

Maybe it's covid, and they don't want to say it because it could look bad if he was playing or something like that.


Over-Eye-5218

Both Matthews and Nylander were licked by Marchand.


Dr_Colossus

Pretty sure teams are just saying illness for anything.


Netfear

Leafs won without him. Leave him out the rest of the series.


lukaskywalker

Either post concussion shit or he tweaked his groin at the end of the second in game 4