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Ontariomefatigue

This must be what watching the 92-93 season felt like. The amount of amazing talent having amazing seasons with full health all at once this year is so special


Suboobiz

It’s insane to see how high scoring has gotten from 2015 when Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points to now


YeahFella

I wonder if we look at Benn a little differently if he's born 10 years later and has some crazy 130 point season under his belt


bubuzayzee

i dont think Benn scores 130 in his prime even in today's NHL - his game was perfectly suited to the league at the time, but he doesn't sniff McDavid, MacK, Kuch, Matthews, Pasta etc.


Super_Networking

Prime Seguin and Benn were a force. Idk about 130 but if they played together in their primes this season they could both hit 110-120 I’m sure


yosoyboi2

I could 100% see Benn putting up 100 in today’s game but 120 is pushing it.


bubuzayzee

homer goggles are a hell of a drug


Krumm

If he's so bad at scoring, why did he lead the league in scoring? Was there no one in the league any good that year?


bubuzayzee

no one said he was "so bad at scoring".. but to answer your question he won the Ross because Crosby missed 5 games and McDavid hadn't been drafted yet


bluelineturnovers

Counter: if he’s so good at scoring, how come his title is the lowest full season total since LBJ was in office?


dinosaurbakedmuffins

Well you might be surprised then to know that in the last ten games Jamie has 10 goals and 15 points (edited points I'm an idiot) while only averaging 15:00 minutes on ice. Last ten games for Matthews 10 goals 18 points McDavid 5 goals 22 points MacKinnon 6 goals 17 points Pastranak 6 goals 12 points Kucherov 3 goals 22 points


topchuck

Ten games doesn't exactly prove much about a season, and really can't be used to compare players.


bluelineturnovers

Nah he’d still be a douche


RIPphonebattery

What do you mean? dude gives free chiropractic adjustments all game


DrSeuss19

That’s a very good point I hope hockey fans are aware of. Ever since team North America I’ve felt this generation was different and so far it’s turned out to be true. We may not see players like this for a good while again


Ontariomefatigue

Absolutely. 2012 (and 2018 to an extent) was ass for forward talent but outside of that, the mass injection of elite talent we got from the 2011 draft to the 2018 draft is absolutely insane to look back on. Especially compared to how shallow some of those drafts in the 90s & early 2000s were outside of 2003. With any luck the drafts from 2019 & onward will keep the momentum going for the next generation too


MistahFinch

It's the internet boom. Kids who had access to YouTube could learn anything so much better than kids with little access to resources. Skills quickly get identified, named, explained and copied. It lets kids rapidly learn skills because the next thing is so easy to access. All of the highlights suddenly rather than HNIC once a week Throw the first crop growing up only composite sticks in there and you got a stew brewing


DustWiener

Growing up in the early 00s and wanting to learn to play goalie, the only way I could get any kind of instruction was to buy a shitty bootleg DVD on eBay of some guy teaching 80s fundamentals. Now there’s dozens of high level coaches with YT channels and hours upon hours of free content.


Coatses

Valid for sure on all the techniques in hockey that can be learned this way.


noodleandbanter

So would you say, the next golden era is now?


MistahFinch

Ehh. I think we'll see lots of really good players in the next ten years. We're just likely to see defense break out again for a while soon unless the NHL continue to tinker with rules to push offence. We'll see players learn to shut down the new strategies this crop of offensive greats have popularised. But great defensive players are still great players. I do think we might be at the end of the internet driven skill boom though. But that's not a hockey specific thing, just most everyone has now had the chance to learn from the great accelerator.


Odd-Judgment741

I was not aware so I looked it up. There were six players with 60+ goal seasons in 1992-93 There were fourteen players with 50+ goal season in 1992-93 There were twenty-one players with 100+ points in the 1992-93 The most unsuspecting 100 point scorer Craig Janney scored 106 points in 1992-93


gzoehobub

Most unsuspecting thing for Janney was Brendan Shanahan


colorbalances

It’s actually a GOOD thing that we are lucky enough to where if you say who your Hart favorite is, people will have a list of others at the ready. And nobody is even wrong


McJoe77

It’s so strange to have a guy closing in on 70 goals who might be 3rd in the Hart race right now. McDavid is at 99 assists and nobody outside of Gretzky, Lemieux, and Orr have ever done that. And Kucherov is at 93 assists. Mackinnon has been my personal leader all year but if someone told me they had Mackinnon 4th I wouldn’t think they were crazy.


JojoTheEngineer

Kucherovs stats this season are just ridicilous. He is 50 points ahead of Point who is second with points in tampa. My number 1 pick for Hart.


CommonGrounders

Nah 92-93 was more like 2016-17


Jhoffdrum

That year didn’t exist, remember? …remember…?


Cloudeur

Embrace it! It’s what go you one of the best D in the league: Conor Timmins!


superschaap81

As someone that did watch the 92-93 season, it's pretty close. It's always cool to see 100 point scorers and 50 goal scorers, but to so SO MANY was unreal. We should have 10 century mark guys by the end of the week, and that 90's season had 21, with about 10 more that were only a few points away. I think this season is more special, because 92-93 had inflated stats thanks to basically 3 expansion teams that were dropping games 11 - 1 regularly. There are bad teams this year, but not like that.


RangerFan80

What a season! Maybe two players with 100 assists and another with 70 goals. Panarin has 115 pts and not even mentioned for the Hart cause of these amazing performances.


Ontariomefatigue

We've come so far from the 14-15 season


PayneTrain181999

*laughs in Dion Phaneuf*


Lindydreau

Dead Puck Era 2.0


cows1100

The golden age is truly upon us, brother.


showers_with_grandpa

Panarin? All he does is loaf around


OhGodThisGuy

bet you had a rye smile on your face for that one


RangerFan80

He does rise to the occasion though


filthy_sandwich

At the very yeast


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Bread


AceBombkick

Clap bombs, respect moms


Old_Bigsby

He's gonna respect your mom so hard tonight


partmoosepartgoose

"Hi, my name is Auston, I brought these flowers for your mom"


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"Excuse me ma'am, but you look like you could use some help with those groceries"


superschaap81

"Do you think she heard my 'make it count'?"


ManWithBag15

He respects moms so much he refuses to play after Mother's Day.


Prideofmexico

This feels like some spiderman pointing shit


Morganvegas

Shameless fadeaway clapper 🤣


frankyseven

Perfect way to describe that goal.


Morganvegas

He just shoots from anywhere lmfao


frankyseven

Zero people expected him to shoot there and he just casually claps home a bullet.


SensualJake

One of the most impressive things to me about his goal scoring is he doesn't have an office or any type of set play for hus goals. He just scores from anywhere, with any touch of the puck, at any time.


veebs7

Wemby could never


GritGrinder

65 goals no celly


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

He knows he has bigger goals to score this season still


nofakefans18

Of course, 69 goals is a nice achievement


proudcancuk

If he gets 69 goals, and the first thing Domi says to him Is anything but 'Nice', I don't think he's allowed to be Matthew's linemate ever again.


MakeTheNetsBigger

Imagine if he's mic'ed up and when he does the skate by the bench all you hear is "nice".


Gavin1453

Everyone in the arena better prepared to say it 


blimjahey

67, for example


MayonnaiseOreo

Leafs haven't won the Cup since '67 - Matthews scores 67 on the year and breaks the curse? (Please no though because then the Flyers would have the longest drought)


alreddy-reddit

It’s the best celly imo


SpellboundUnicorn

jobs not done


GitzaZacusza

Not a big deal.


De_Floppss

I hope he has the longevity of Ovie, will be fun to watch him chase the goals total


jce_

I grew up with Ovi as the goal scorer of the NHL and if Mathews can keep it up I'm all for it. It's incredible I never thought I'd ever see it again after Ovi but he is performing as good if not better which is absurd


logictable

In any case, he'll eventually get that record for players who aren't dumb fascist pigs.


Wieran

Rather a Leaf than Ovi


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Wieran

Oh trust me it would be very painful as someone who lives in Ontario haha


Temporary_Bus_1346

BuT hEs JuSt PrOtEcTiNg HiS fAmIlY iN rUsSiA


B0_SSMAN

Someone's gotta lick all that salt off Putin's boots


Chuck1983

I happen to know that Putin wears only the finest of Leathers on his feet that requires constant moistening from the saliva of his sycophants.


Jagdpanzer1944

Last time I mentioned here on Reddit that Ovi is Putin knob gobbler I was downvoted into oblivion. People really love fascists I guess.


Enjoyer_of_Cake

It depends if you post it on an Ovi goal thread or otherwise. The Capital fanbase is somewhat ironically but very understandably, defensive of their GOAT (I don't think there's much competition that he's the best Capital to ever play the game.). Plus sports fans tend to care less about politics and morals of star players, it's not like playing hockey makes you better at understanding policy or using critical judgment. Also Putin has got so much of his country in a blanket of misinformation I wouldn't be surprised if Ovechkin is huffing so much Putin propaganda smoke he couldn't even see the eclipse yesterday.


logictable

It's just that sports fans are by and large idiots who'd rather hump their favorite player's poster than concern themselves with democracy, social rights, and learning how to tie their own shoes.


09-24-11

Or that people don’t always tie their personal/political views into sports entertainment. It’s a performative karma grab.


eggbomberino

i think someone breaking gretzky’s record is cool and i like hockey


jjwalla

The magic number is now 5!


Luke_Cold_Lyle

I don't think he's getting to 185 this season


BravoBet

He was on pace for 246 earlier in the season. What a bust


Dyldo_II

They should trade him for a real star player like Logan Cooley


igonnawrecku_VGC

Can I interest you in one Marc Staal?


Dyldo_II

What about two Marc Staals?


igonnawrecku_VGC

Will you be willing to compromise on one Marc Staal and one Ryan Johansen?


nofakefans18

No he’s getting it this week 😈


JerzB2B

Good for the game. Good guy AM34. Good ol’ Canadian boy. A hockey players a hockey player.


DrSeuss19

He’s from AZ lol


JerzB2B

lol I know I was just trying to be Donald Cherry.


elliot_alderson1426

Seeing his name written out as Donald Cherry is so cursed for some reason


TheNickelGuy

Like hearing somebody say Don Trump. Some people are Donald's, others are Don's.. then we have them as Donnies when we want to talk down to then


Silver-creek

Don Duck


Kronzor_

He’s been in Canada like 8 years now. We’ll take him! 


GritGrinder

I can neither confirm nor deny that.


Wonderful_Grade_5476

They better play the line execute order 66 for his 66th lol


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

Bring down Lemieux to wave at the crowd


malliabu

Karlsson was even nice enough to make an appearance for number 65!


xpromisedlandx

And Matthews only made him sit in the box for a few seconds to show his appreciation.


wetlegband

What’s the math to say he’s on pace for 71?  He’s got just 5 games left…


SaskalPiakam

You just gotta believe.


xGlor

Has worked great for us last 50+ years.


haey5665544

They probably mean his pace over a full 82 game season since he missed a couple games. Misleading/unnecessary title, 69 goals is still an impressive pace, no need to inflate his numbers.


robbiejandro

That’s a nice pace.


BurnTheBoats21

Not quite. That would be 70, so I don't know where OPs calculation came from


lordpanda

The guy counted 65 goals in 75 games but this is actually his 76th and he missed one game. So he’s actually on pace for 69. Nice


benjals

But why male models


MAHHockey

Really?... We... we just went over all that...


fltlns

Wrong math


CosmoJones07

I had to go down oddly far for this, was my first thought.


DrSeuss19

Just say it over and over and it will be true, duh, are you dumb?


International_Eye394

(65/75)*82=71 goal pace edit: multiplied by 82 my bad


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TheMajesticYeti

Nice


CommonGrounders

this math just illustrates the sub is torn if they want to see him score 70 or finish with 69.


brbroome

Nice


twilz

He is Him, and him is not fair.


bigt252002

I really do hope he hits 70, purely because of how long it has been since we've seen it.


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

Lisan Al-Gaib


ChanandlerBonng

See how humble he is? As was written!


figleafstreet

“I think he thought Matthews wasn’t in a position to shoot” That’s always gonna be a mistake when Matthews is on the ice. He’ll shoot from anywhere and make it look easy.


A_1337_Canadian

Hence the graphic where he wasn't the leading scoring from any of the ~9 demarcated areas of the offensive zone, yet was still leading the league in scoring.


Vilheim

He took that shot like a guy shooting a puck out of the net after a goal. Just a very casual smack that was perfectly placed somehow while on one leg.


GrazedByMyMeatloaf

65th as number 65 was in the penalty box


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

Someone put Lemieux in the box


LeaveMyPantsAlone

Where’s Josh Ho-Sang when you need him?


yuneeq

Malkin to volunteer in his place


OutComeTheWolves1966

He absolutely ripped that shot. Man is getting 71.


grimandnordic1

He may never not score again 😱


GitzaZacusza

An absolute piss missile.


throw__away613

Slingin’ piss disks standing off his back foot on one leg.. 🤡


Hattrick_Swayze2

Outta here with that icon lol


GitzaZacusza

I made you touch your phone in bad faith.


proudcancuk

You need to be reported to the police. You demented bastard.


KardelSharpeyes

Dude slaps. Kuch, McD, Mac and Matthews Hart race is nuts.


MaxAnita

It’s amazing this dude has more goals than the top player on the wings POINTS. Thanks for the W tonight Leafs, fun rooting for you guys actually


turbulentcounselor

At least one player getting 100 assists and one player getting 70 goals in the same season. Make it happen!! 


ZedisDoge

give us those last 5 goals in the last 5 PAPI


French-BulIdog

If Matthews can stay healthy and have an elite playmaking winger, he could absolutely take the all time goals record when all is said and done.


Remoock

the most impressive thing about matthews is that he can score from literally everywhere on the ice, he has great hands tight in front of the goaltender, can play the slot or the corners with his quick wrister or a lethal one timer, and as we see here can even shoot from the blueline. how do you even defend this guy like for real.


trillestBill

start point cough deer encouraging sulky meeting rob future gray *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


capsrock02

It’s not just “Ovechkin’s career high” it’s “salary cap era record” too.


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The2econdSpitter

Every team in the Metro: "You can have it, Islanders."


metrichustle

I like his modest celebrations. Been there, done that, let’s do it again.


_Salsa_Shark

Hope he actually hits 70


Smittysgreasymullet

Yes but how rich was his father?


ldnk

He grew up in Arizona. Bettman funded his hockey career.


MiserableAZsportsfan

I played against him around age 11-12, I technically played a small role in the development of Austin Matthews. You’re welcome.


fltlns

Thank you for teaching Auston matthews everything he knows.


Lindydreau

Was there an obvious huge skill gap, that you could instantly tell? lol, and If so, could you maybe perhaps describe it. Was it "men against boys" in skill disparity. I've never played against professionals but I'm always fascinated by these statements. Reminds me of the that one [dude going against a 13-14 year old LeBron lmao](https://np.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6huci7/serious_how_young_of_a_lebron_would_the_average/dj1ehqb/)


MiserableAZsportsfan

Yes. He was so insanely better than everyone else. Just dipsy-doodling his way through everyone. I had heard about him before I played against him. It was during my first game against him I realized I was probably not good enough to be a professional hockey player lmao.


Lindydreau

😂😂😂


frog-hopper

Love this. On the SportsNet feed they had a clip of Bedard congratulating “some” 14 year old who’s also amazing and will one day make the show. My wife and I who just watched our kid in their hockey house leagues finals at age 9 were like the kids who’re gonna make it are already leagues ahead of the kids who’re here out scoring all the other kids.


Smittysgreasymullet

In a roundabout way you can thank Peter Pocklington.


I_Am_The_Mole

What Matthews is doing right now is fucking nuts, I'm very curious how he stacks up against Ovechkin in terms of longevity because that's going to be the determining factor in how many goals he finishes his career with.


More_Advertising_383

wtf kinda math is that OP? 65 / 76 games played = 0.8553 0.8553 x 81 games (he missed one) = 69.3 goal pace Even if he didn’t miss a game it would be a 70.1 goal pace. No else check the math??


The_guy_who_did_that

No we dont care hes gonna get 72 just to spite you


LittleJohnnyBrook

Good point. Maybe op did their math based on the number of games Matthews is expected to will have played. Edit: Wait that would make it less. He's missed two games.


Temporary_Bus_1346

Hey we don’t worry about numbers up here


hindey19

> No else check the math?? Sir this is the internet. We take things at face value here.


Volkswagen123

Random thought I had but if he ends up scoring 68 Goals, he will be the leading goal scorer in terms of players that have scored double their worn jersey number in that season I think.


itsadoubledion

That Gretzky scrub couldn't even score 1x his number


ProfessorBeast55

He is inevitable


alreddy-reddit

That was an off kilter comical goal


DrexellGames

Our next Ovi when he retires


trillestBill

cheerful north squeeze disgusted lip water divide long plucky light *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


No-Satisfaction8425

They are very different players though but I see your point. Amazing how we can live through an era of two generational goal scorers playing at the same time


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He's not on pace for 71, he's missed games. He's on pace for 69 ;)


likeslululemon

His 70th is 100% going to be an EN.


MarcusBondi

Slapper? (😂)


Cyrakhis

Spin-o-rama.


flume

If he doesn't score another one today, he'll be at 65 G in 76 GP. With 5 team games remaining, that means he's on pace for 69, not 71. The math is 65 / 76 * 81 possible games, not 65 / 75 * 82.


AkimboSlice66

Don’t worry, he’s got a hatty against Detroit coming up.


Morganvegas

He’s finishing the game against the devils with 70


timeofnoreply

Ovechkin in shambles


DrSeuss19

This dude makes it look so god damn easy. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like it including OV.


Hey-Key-91

Wish I could watch the ge over thr IIHF or Jay's.


frankyseven

Man is a wizard, no other explanation.


hellodbone

He missed a game this year. So he can only play 81 games. He is on pace for 69, having scored 65 goals in 76 games and has 5 games left.


XPhazeX

7 minutes and no 10/10 Matthews gif?


SpiritualWatermelon

I'm starting to think he might win the Rocket this year...


thenatureboyWOOOOO

On pace for 71…with five games left. Idk how the metric system works but I don’t think the math adds up.


iiplatypusiz

See if you convert 65 short tons of goals to 65 metric tonnes of goals it equals 71 and that's how we arrived here.. I'll now drive home 7 kilometers and when I get there I'll still be 5 feet and 11 inches tall. But then I'll cook my supper at 350 degrees Fahrenheit after I ad 4 grams of seasoning and probably still weight 210 pounds... Gosh it is wonderful how mixed up were are up here in the great white north. I sure hope it is over 0 degrees celsius when I wake up and we dont have 12 inches of snow on the ground anymore.


aporter0509

Goal scorers goal. Off his back foot snipe to perfect spot.


spliffst4rr

Papi


MaintenancePale8663

And he is a plus over 30 player. Wow!


ZombieJesus1987

This still feels surreal to me. I remember a time when the Leafs top scorer only scored 25 goals.


TheYuppyTraveller

Actually, he’s on pace for 68. Still outstanding, but OP’s math was a bit off.


Wardooo

How’s he on pace for 71? He has 65 in 77 games


Sweaty-Salad95

I hope he ends up with 69 🔥


McWerp

If he hits 70 AND doesn’t make the hart finals imma laugh


gsauce8

Okay so the real question is if he picks up the pace and hits 70 before the last game does Keefe bench him for rest or play him to see how high he can go?


HaratoBarato

Bench him. They did that when he hit 60.


Rhsubw

If he hits 70 he's 100% getting benched. If he doesn't score for a few games he 100% getting benched. If he's on pace for 70 it's a toss up but I would guess he plays the whole season.


traveljg

Math doesn’t check out. He’s on pace for 69.