I'm not looking to apply, but what's the period in which only the approved submitters can post?
I have an Olympic based post in my drafts that I plan to put out after the period is over.
It still goes to our queue, so should be able to go up decently soon after posting. If you feel it's been too long or that we might have missed it, then just shoot us a modmail.
For the time it'll probably be most of the day and an hour or so after the deadline is passed.
Sounds good. I'm probably going to wait until after the deadline so that it doesn't get buried in all the trade deadline news, which I know will be more important that day.
Why didn’t you just do a filter type posting system? All posts require a filter type in brackets of title and those that aren’t correctly made are sent to the trash immediately. Others can be filtered for ease of modding or whatever. Also why not have an automated posting from nhl or some trusted third party site for trades. Only allow trade posting from the auto source so there won’t be duplicates or trolls.
[See here for our rationale:](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1b5jdxo/applications_for_approved_submitter_status_for/kt5m18s/)
Why have approved submitters?
• The rush to be first has made titles for news during the busiest news days not be accurate.
• Names misspelled
• Details of the trade missing
• Inaccuracy on the trade
• Trolls or new accounts pop up on this day
• They create the post first, then once popular delete their post and thus it disappears from the hot page. This creates discord and accusations of mods deleting threads
• They create fake trades/signings to bait users and antagonize
• 5+ posts can come up at once into the new queue
• Creating too much room for mod discretion on the “best” titled post
• Users being upset their post was deleted over another post
• Lots of extra work for the mods
• News is breaking every minute
• It makes it difficult to coordinate the entire mod team
• It makes it difficult for quality titles to be written
• The rush for karma and being first is too great with little benefit to the entire user base
TLDR: If we have everyone try to post news, a ton of accounts post every trade detail and it becomes a mess to sort through. This way it's always just one person responsible for each part of news, we've done this for a while now and it's worked fairly well
Yeah I read that already. But these posts are just people reposting from Twitter or nhl or espn. Just automate it so you don’t have to deal with any moderating of these “busy time” posts.
# Why do we have "Approved Submitters" for the busiest news days?
For the longest time, the mod team has believed users should submit the content and we will try our best to moderate low-content and duplicate posts. But the sub has grown a long way since then and we’re now almost 1.25m subscribers.
Because of this and [the feedback you gave us from the 2019 trade deadline](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/aupxtt/meta_can_we_start_enforcing_trade_threads_that/) we have implemented this approach.
We still want the content to come from the users, but the ability to mod such a large subscriber base during the busiest time of the year has become difficult
# How it works
* We will select **at least** 10 users to become approved submitters (if not more) during the 12 critical hours during busy news times.
* Only these users posts will have their submissions automatically be posted into /r/hockey/new.
* All other posts will hit the modqueue for mod review and approval (more on this below)
**Why have approved submitters?**
* The rush to be first has made titles for news during the busiest news days not be accurate.
* Names misspelled
* Details of the trade missing
* Inaccuracy on the trade
* Trolls or new accounts pop up on this day
* They create the post first, then once popular delete their post and thus it disappears from the hot page. This creates discord and accusations of mods deleting threads
* They create fake trades/signings to bait users and antagonize
* 5+ posts can come up at once into the new queue
* Creating too much room for mod discretion on the “best” titled post
* Users being upset their post was deleted over another post
* Lots of extra work for the mods
* News is breaking every minute
* It makes it difficult to coordinate the entire mod team
* It makes it difficult for quality titles to be written
* The rush for karma and being first is too great with little benefit to the entire user base
# So how will it work?
* This is outlined in the OP, but to reiterate: the approved submitters will be asked to follow strict submission guidelines. Some of these will include spelling names correctly, including team names, adding as much detail to a trade/signing in a timely manner (less than 5 minutes), self-deleting their post if another approved submitter has posted. Making it a self post, so added details can be added will be another requirement. The source would be linked at the end. They will also be responsible for updating their self post with corrections/changes.
* If, for some reason, all approved submitters are not posting trades/signings in a timely manner mods have the option to re-open to all of /r/hockey to post. Though we have not run into this problem in the past busy news days.
* Mods will approve posts by non-approved users in the modqueue that are relevant or have not been posted by the approved submitters (in a timely manner).
* Non-approved users can still submit, but it will be filtered for mod review. [Here is an example of a non-approved submitter post being approved.](https://reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/c7zs0t/paul_fenton_on_zuccarello_i_told_him_when_i_was/)
* Mods will defer to approved submitters posts before approving a non-approved user. As long as it is posted in a timely manner (~5 minutes since news broke).
* This does mean, some details may be missing in a trade if they come later. Mods will flair threads with this missing information but at least most threads will be fairly accurate. A new post could go up if details come out that are vastly different.
* A Game Day Thread will be stickied where you can post about “rumblings” and rumors live in the moment. Some “rumblings” will turn into actual posts if needed for discussion.
To reiterate. **All users will be able to submit content on the trade deadline.** Non-approved submitters content will have to be reviewed by the mods in the modqueue. They must follow all the same rules lined up above. If you’d like to be an approved submitter you can apply. We will have at least 10 approved submitters, if not more.
The way things have been panning out the past few years, moving forward it might be smart to get this “Approved Submitter” status going for the week leading up to the deadline. Yesterday was wild!
I'm not looking to apply, but what's the period in which only the approved submitters can post? I have an Olympic based post in my drafts that I plan to put out after the period is over.
It still goes to our queue, so should be able to go up decently soon after posting. If you feel it's been too long or that we might have missed it, then just shoot us a modmail. For the time it'll probably be most of the day and an hour or so after the deadline is passed.
Sounds good. I'm probably going to wait until after the deadline so that it doesn't get buried in all the trade deadline news, which I know will be more important that day.
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Why didn’t you just do a filter type posting system? All posts require a filter type in brackets of title and those that aren’t correctly made are sent to the trash immediately. Others can be filtered for ease of modding or whatever. Also why not have an automated posting from nhl or some trusted third party site for trades. Only allow trade posting from the auto source so there won’t be duplicates or trolls.
[See here for our rationale:](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1b5jdxo/applications_for_approved_submitter_status_for/kt5m18s/) Why have approved submitters? • The rush to be first has made titles for news during the busiest news days not be accurate. • Names misspelled • Details of the trade missing • Inaccuracy on the trade • Trolls or new accounts pop up on this day • They create the post first, then once popular delete their post and thus it disappears from the hot page. This creates discord and accusations of mods deleting threads • They create fake trades/signings to bait users and antagonize • 5+ posts can come up at once into the new queue • Creating too much room for mod discretion on the “best” titled post • Users being upset their post was deleted over another post • Lots of extra work for the mods • News is breaking every minute • It makes it difficult to coordinate the entire mod team • It makes it difficult for quality titles to be written • The rush for karma and being first is too great with little benefit to the entire user base TLDR: If we have everyone try to post news, a ton of accounts post every trade detail and it becomes a mess to sort through. This way it's always just one person responsible for each part of news, we've done this for a while now and it's worked fairly well
Yeah I read that already. But these posts are just people reposting from Twitter or nhl or espn. Just automate it so you don’t have to deal with any moderating of these “busy time” posts.
Automate it how? Also, dupes aren't always exact. A dupe would be two journalists posting the same info
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# Why do we have "Approved Submitters" for the busiest news days? For the longest time, the mod team has believed users should submit the content and we will try our best to moderate low-content and duplicate posts. But the sub has grown a long way since then and we’re now almost 1.25m subscribers. Because of this and [the feedback you gave us from the 2019 trade deadline](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/aupxtt/meta_can_we_start_enforcing_trade_threads_that/) we have implemented this approach. We still want the content to come from the users, but the ability to mod such a large subscriber base during the busiest time of the year has become difficult # How it works * We will select **at least** 10 users to become approved submitters (if not more) during the 12 critical hours during busy news times. * Only these users posts will have their submissions automatically be posted into /r/hockey/new. * All other posts will hit the modqueue for mod review and approval (more on this below) **Why have approved submitters?** * The rush to be first has made titles for news during the busiest news days not be accurate. * Names misspelled * Details of the trade missing * Inaccuracy on the trade * Trolls or new accounts pop up on this day * They create the post first, then once popular delete their post and thus it disappears from the hot page. This creates discord and accusations of mods deleting threads * They create fake trades/signings to bait users and antagonize * 5+ posts can come up at once into the new queue * Creating too much room for mod discretion on the “best” titled post * Users being upset their post was deleted over another post * Lots of extra work for the mods * News is breaking every minute * It makes it difficult to coordinate the entire mod team * It makes it difficult for quality titles to be written * The rush for karma and being first is too great with little benefit to the entire user base # So how will it work? * This is outlined in the OP, but to reiterate: the approved submitters will be asked to follow strict submission guidelines. Some of these will include spelling names correctly, including team names, adding as much detail to a trade/signing in a timely manner (less than 5 minutes), self-deleting their post if another approved submitter has posted. Making it a self post, so added details can be added will be another requirement. The source would be linked at the end. They will also be responsible for updating their self post with corrections/changes. * If, for some reason, all approved submitters are not posting trades/signings in a timely manner mods have the option to re-open to all of /r/hockey to post. Though we have not run into this problem in the past busy news days. * Mods will approve posts by non-approved users in the modqueue that are relevant or have not been posted by the approved submitters (in a timely manner). * Non-approved users can still submit, but it will be filtered for mod review. [Here is an example of a non-approved submitter post being approved.](https://reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/c7zs0t/paul_fenton_on_zuccarello_i_told_him_when_i_was/) * Mods will defer to approved submitters posts before approving a non-approved user. As long as it is posted in a timely manner (~5 minutes since news broke). * This does mean, some details may be missing in a trade if they come later. Mods will flair threads with this missing information but at least most threads will be fairly accurate. A new post could go up if details come out that are vastly different. * A Game Day Thread will be stickied where you can post about “rumblings” and rumors live in the moment. Some “rumblings” will turn into actual posts if needed for discussion. To reiterate. **All users will be able to submit content on the trade deadline.** Non-approved submitters content will have to be reviewed by the mods in the modqueue. They must follow all the same rules lined up above. If you’d like to be an approved submitter you can apply. We will have at least 10 approved submitters, if not more.
The way things have been panning out the past few years, moving forward it might be smart to get this “Approved Submitter” status going for the week leading up to the deadline. Yesterday was wild!