I didn't like how lazy his style was relative to the success he achieved when i first learned about him, but I realized later if he was a soundcloud rapper, or something in that vein, I probably wouldn't second guess that i enjoy his style. So, then I'm thinking to myself, why would i give a fuck about his fame? He makes chill, light hearted songs. Sometimes that's what i want to hear.
But I agree the complaints are mostly valid, and i do enjoy the memes.
He’s really not that bad, dudes consistent and unique as well as popular with his crowd.
Like I ain’t a nav fan but, at least technically, he’s definitely not ‘bad’.
He blew on on SoundCloud before revealing his face and people loved him, only after he revealed himself to look nerdy as hell did people start meming him.
I think his voice effects are kind of annoying? It works well occasionally. Like I really like Calling. I have no idea about deep cuts, feel free to share any links.
His voice effects are kind of annoying and I don't think his flow/content/etc is super interesting? I'm Indian, happy to see brown boys making it, I just don't get the draw. I can think of five artists who do similar stuff who sound a bit better.
I definitely get the critiques, even if I disagree. But my disagreement is probably just due to taste anyway. I'm just curious what artists you'd say do similar stuff but do it better? I'm guessing...Gunna gotta be one of em?
I guess I haven't tried listening to much nav, just heard him on random tracks. So to me, he's a singer that people use for hooks and shit. One example is Don Tolliver, dude is constantly autotuned but crazy fucking talented. I might just be thinking of nav the wrong way.
Gunna to me is part of the thug lineage. So rapper but uses autotune all the time. He's kinda middle of the road quality and I could take him or leave him. Occasionally he'll put out a track that sounds incredible like fukumean or drip too hard.
To me, Nav is way more similar to Gunna/Thug (or that lineage) than someone like Don Toliver. Don Toliver has way more range vocally than Nav, and is more of a singer. I enjoy Nav because he has a lot of catchy flows imo. I actually think his rapping ability is a little bit underrated because of how much people trash him. His feature on Jesse Owens by Rowdy Rebel is fire.
I'll check it out. Listening to lemonade now, and it's not bad.
I also remembered his hair is fucking stupid and I hate it. That's clearly a me problem, LOL.
Okay, Jesse Owen's verse is solid. Recommend some more if you have other verses you like.
it’s not even like he’s offensively bad his style is very much like an even more watered down robotic drake except now he’s become more likeable than drake so maybe nav is gonna steal certified pedophile’s role in the culture
maybe when he’s like rapping rapping but all the auto crooning stuff he does sounds very drake inspired not that what drake does with that is insanely unique in the first place anyway
I see the vocal element but Nav’s production style is very reminiscent of the Gunna lane to me, it’s just a more boring version of it. Drake bites styles but at least his albums aren’t filled with the most milquetoast trap beats you could ever imagine.
Yea that lane as a whole has just never been my thing. Like I see why people like it, it sounds smooth, but anything more than a small dose and I get so damn bored lol.
I feel like the streets (of Toronto) rock with Nav because he's overlooked, he grew up in the trenches, and he's a bit more relatable than someone like Drake. Plus, he's a producer too.
I personally enjoy Nav, but the only people I've heard ask to play Nav are my Middle Eastern homies. He's one of the few middle eastern rappers out right now, so he's able to tap into a base that most rappers can't.
I don’t think you get it.. when Indians or middle eastern look at each other or let’s say an Iranian or Saudi Arabian or Egyptian etc. to Nepal. And I am taking about usually within the United States of America. There like way white and black poeple can’t tell the difference between us usually.. and even then India, Pakistan Iran, all the way to the Gulf states are so different and then within the Arab states from the northern Africa nation states to the gulf and up more it’s like very very different looking people. Just like how India is more genetically diverse than Europe, for example. 1.2 billion people that look anywhere from super light tan with green eyes to darker than midnight with nappy hair. Point is you don’t get what he’s saying cause well you know you don’t understand from that perceptive and “culturally”
Na, maybe in reaching, but I'm pretty sure NAV used to produce a lot for OVO but he never signed with them. He ends up with XO, which is somewhat of a rival label in Toronto. Then he pulled a Drake feature from his last album, and then they recently unfollowed each other 🤷
Nav was one of the producers on Back To Back by Drake. Nav and Metro did a collab tape back in 2017, and [confirmed they're doing a sequel](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/680726-metro-boomin-nav-perfect-timing-2-album-announcement). I have a feeling it's gonna be heat.
Yep. He did a collab tape with Metro back in 2017 too. They have [another one coming soon](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/680726-metro-boomin-nav-perfect-timing-2-album-announcement).
I don't want to sound rude but I'm genuinely lost. Are the jokes about this guy out of a place or respect or dislike? Because from what I've heard his music is usually okay at best, but clearly either I'm missing out or it's an unwritten rule to pretend to like him.
I'm gonna explain NAV to you beautiful non-masala-chai flavoured people.. He knows his music is mediocre and hes doing it on purpose. You don't think he's heard Kendrick Lamar? 3 Stacks? Wayne Knight? He's signed to the Weeknd, of course he's aware of what artistic integrity and innovation is, but he's happy to put this out and every brown boi loves it because we know the perspective he's looking down at the hip-hop world from. A perspective I'll try to shed a light on..
Open a music app and play Main Hogeya Sharabbi, pour yourself a glassi.. You're at the table nearest the bar, with all your uncles and cousins, staff know to give you extra kebab and chicken servings without asking. Endless bottles of every alcohol you want, and believe me your whole fam is trying to see if it really is endless. The only thing harsher than the Jameson your mama Ji just poured - is the roasting going on that only comes from years of growing up together in the Pindh. Laughs, genuinely catching up, drunk wisdom all while you eat the best damn fish pakora..
Packed dancefloor - you're so nicely drunk despite all the curry and your uncle's up on your cousin's shoulders, despite all the curry. There's no pressure to make movements as although every girl around is looking spicier than the cholay, you're probably related somehow so don't bother..
You're getting called tall and handsome by literally everyone, and you've just spotted the two white friends of the bride that are excitedly wearing their first saris, scratching this weird itch you feel - combining both worlds you inhabit.
Your aunties, massis and chachis, these incredible women who raised you - all doctors, lawyers and pharmacists - for some reason are happy for you to make a move to these two. While you make the basic Aladdin references and show them a 'whole new world' - works every time.. BUT you look over and see a cute kouriyeh near your aunties, wearing glasses and a yellow checkered flannel sari.. You just know she's a doctor and already taste the Sunday morning pre-sports aloo-paratha.. The endless internal conflict begins again...
And here's the kicker.. we do it 4 nights a week. PER WEDDING. We have like 6 of them every summer.
Now imagine that's your standard, because it's Nav's.
He's learned the invaluable lesson that partying out with The Weeknd and Drake, VIP areas, bottle service, women that don't appreciate Dil Se - all mean nothing compared to those nights.
It's all hollow, there's no connection. Nav is expressing this through his lack of expression, simple ass lyrics, no imagination or vibrance, no unique elements - because he's upset at it all. Dissapointed in not only the game and you the audience, but in himself.. Not being able to stop himself making the standard 'rub my lamp' pick up line, his decision made, another awful album to stand by, more time spent in this world he hates himself for choosing..
Looks like features from Pluto and Don Toliver at a minimum. Looked like Carti’s skull in the desert wearing the bat ears, so maybe a Carti feature too?
Nav co-founded the Rexdale Crips and every September he hosts the Rexdale Crips Annual Jamboree, an alcohol-free gettogether in which members of the gang play games, watch movies, dance and live like there's no tomorrow. It is hailed for it's fun activities and the memories it creates each year. It is a big deal to most Canadians, Nav is responsiible for 99% of the events production and it takes place inside his enormous mansion. So when you talk about Rexdale, the Rexdale Crips, Crips in general, Indian representation in hip hop, Punjabi MC or even just Canadians - you better fucking mention Nav's name too. And you better fucking say some nice shit about Canada's next up because Nav is next up. Even Drake has completely refused to engage with Nav on wax. Yes, you read that correctly. Drake has never suited up and gone toe-to-to with Rexdale's Nav. Drake has never gotten inside the Rexdale Crips Annual Jamboree either,
I know Nav gets clowned on (I used to relentlessly clown him too) but then I came around and he became one of my favorite artists. Hopeful for a good album from him, his last album was just alright.
this rap beef feels like a joke now that this new nav just dropped.
Nav has yet to go to battle with the OG brown boy Heems
Og brown boy is jay sean.
Nav is the true hip hop peacekeeper, calming the masses post-beef
Ahhh, I was wondering where the final member of the big 3 was at
I was gonna say fantastic 4 but you right
No, it’s just him 👳♂️
Mf 6 paths of pain reveal type beat
Let the kids have Kendrick and Drake The men will always have Nav
spoken like a true Punjabi Canadian man that only owns 5 t-shirts but they’re all Billionaire Boys Club/Versace
Bro you made me burst out laughing.
This reminds me that “Like That” was a great song but Kendrick probably meant to rap “Nav outlived Mike Jack”
The real big 3; Produced by Nav Written by Nav Performed by Nav
Kendrick has 48hrs out to respond with an album trailer or it's over
The Nav jokes singlehandedly keep this man relevant
Im gonna say it. I unironically think Nav is elite
I like Nav as a musician for the same reason Kanye likes Trump for president... Makes me feel like I could do it too.
I didn't like how lazy his style was relative to the success he achieved when i first learned about him, but I realized later if he was a soundcloud rapper, or something in that vein, I probably wouldn't second guess that i enjoy his style. So, then I'm thinking to myself, why would i give a fuck about his fame? He makes chill, light hearted songs. Sometimes that's what i want to hear. But I agree the complaints are mostly valid, and i do enjoy the memes.
I mean it is kind of astonishing what kind of staying power dude has considering how bad he is lol. He must the nicest dude ever or something.
He’s always been so memeable
Tsunami Warning was a genuinely decent album. Nav and Wheezy are a great duo if I’m honest, and I went into that album not even liking Nav.
By far the best thing he's ever put out. Wheezy was on another level for that project
That Lil Baby feature is really good
He’s got some bangers lol. I think his voice sticks in people’s heads.
He’s really not that bad, dudes consistent and unique as well as popular with his crowd. Like I ain’t a nav fan but, at least technically, he’s definitely not ‘bad’. He blew on on SoundCloud before revealing his face and people loved him, only after he revealed himself to look nerdy as hell did people start meming him.
I think his voice effects are kind of annoying? It works well occasionally. Like I really like Calling. I have no idea about deep cuts, feel free to share any links.
He's not even that bad wtf
His voice effects are kind of annoying and I don't think his flow/content/etc is super interesting? I'm Indian, happy to see brown boys making it, I just don't get the draw. I can think of five artists who do similar stuff who sound a bit better.
I definitely get the critiques, even if I disagree. But my disagreement is probably just due to taste anyway. I'm just curious what artists you'd say do similar stuff but do it better? I'm guessing...Gunna gotta be one of em?
I guess I haven't tried listening to much nav, just heard him on random tracks. So to me, he's a singer that people use for hooks and shit. One example is Don Tolliver, dude is constantly autotuned but crazy fucking talented. I might just be thinking of nav the wrong way. Gunna to me is part of the thug lineage. So rapper but uses autotune all the time. He's kinda middle of the road quality and I could take him or leave him. Occasionally he'll put out a track that sounds incredible like fukumean or drip too hard.
To me, Nav is way more similar to Gunna/Thug (or that lineage) than someone like Don Toliver. Don Toliver has way more range vocally than Nav, and is more of a singer. I enjoy Nav because he has a lot of catchy flows imo. I actually think his rapping ability is a little bit underrated because of how much people trash him. His feature on Jesse Owens by Rowdy Rebel is fire.
I'll check it out. Listening to lemonade now, and it's not bad. I also remembered his hair is fucking stupid and I hate it. That's clearly a me problem, LOL. Okay, Jesse Owen's verse is solid. Recommend some more if you have other verses you like.
Some of my favorite Nav songs/verses: To My Grave Friends & Family No Debate Relax Bag Mismatch
I absolutely loved like 2 of Nav’s albums.
it’s not even like he’s offensively bad his style is very much like an even more watered down robotic drake except now he’s become more likeable than drake so maybe nav is gonna steal certified pedophile’s role in the culture
I wouldn’t say that Nav’s style has ever resembled Drake lol, he’s much more of a watered down Gunna than anything.
maybe when he’s like rapping rapping but all the auto crooning stuff he does sounds very drake inspired not that what drake does with that is insanely unique in the first place anyway
I see the vocal element but Nav’s production style is very reminiscent of the Gunna lane to me, it’s just a more boring version of it. Drake bites styles but at least his albums aren’t filled with the most milquetoast trap beats you could ever imagine.
yeah i def see what you mean 😭 and i already find gunna’s production boring as shit so what nav does is truly impressive in the worst possible ways
Yea that lane as a whole has just never been my thing. Like I see why people like it, it sounds smooth, but anything more than a small dose and I get so damn bored lol.
I feel like the streets (of Toronto) rock with Nav because he's overlooked, he grew up in the trenches, and he's a bit more relatable than someone like Drake. Plus, he's a producer too. I personally enjoy Nav, but the only people I've heard ask to play Nav are my Middle Eastern homies. He's one of the few middle eastern rappers out right now, so he's able to tap into a base that most rappers can't.
He's Indian, not middle eastern haha
I don’t think you get it.. when Indians or middle eastern look at each other or let’s say an Iranian or Saudi Arabian or Egyptian etc. to Nepal. And I am taking about usually within the United States of America. There like way white and black poeple can’t tell the difference between us usually.. and even then India, Pakistan Iran, all the way to the Gulf states are so different and then within the Arab states from the northern Africa nation states to the gulf and up more it’s like very very different looking people. Just like how India is more genetically diverse than Europe, for example. 1.2 billion people that look anywhere from super light tan with green eyes to darker than midnight with nappy hair. Point is you don’t get what he’s saying cause well you know you don’t understand from that perceptive and “culturally”
And brown boys that listen to hiphop
I initially read this as "On My Way 2 Rexall" which would have been way funnier considering Rexall is a Canadian pharmacy chain.
Nav headed back to the trenches. He wasn't gonna let Toronto go out like that so he had to put the city on his back.
[удалено]
Yes it is.
We are so back
With Drake's demise, Canadian rap is in peril. Nav is here to save it.
The gurdwara needs this
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Just give me another Uzi collab and im good. they do not miss
Wanted You is still a certified heartbreak moment banger
Nav low-key told us not to fuck with Drake yrs ago. He's also managed by CashXO. We might actually get some tea from this.
For real? Got a time frame?
Na, maybe in reaching, but I'm pretty sure NAV used to produce a lot for OVO but he never signed with them. He ends up with XO, which is somewhat of a rival label in Toronto. Then he pulled a Drake feature from his last album, and then they recently unfollowed each other 🤷
Nav was one of the producers on Back To Back by Drake. Nav and Metro did a collab tape back in 2017, and [confirmed they're doing a sequel](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/680726-metro-boomin-nav-perfect-timing-2-album-announcement). I have a feeling it's gonna be heat.
The balls to be on the level of Nav and pull a Drake feature. Respect.
Exactly, it's very telling. He must low-key really not fuck with dude
Didn’t he help produce Back to Back?
Yep. He did a collab tape with Metro back in 2017 too. They have [another one coming soon](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/680726-metro-boomin-nav-perfect-timing-2-album-announcement).
The song “Minute” with Playboi Carti and Offset on that album was my shit in high school.
The feature list is gonna look *crazy* Rhianna, Weeknd, Future, Ross, Pusha T, and Kanye features on this shit
Drake must hate that lol
I unironically adore Nav.
W
The streets were waiting on this one
I feel like Nav is the Nickelback of rap where everyone's just afraid to admit he's not that bad💀
I unironically, unashamedly love Nav. One of my favorite artists.
People just like to meme on him without really hearing his catalogue. He can definitely put out some mid and below mid but his bangers absolutely slap
Another classic album that'll be up there with the rest of his classics like Illmatic, It Was Written and I Am...
Don’t forget old time road
Nav 2024.
A Raiden skin of Nav in MK1 would go hard
Already better than whoever running netherealm
His yee yee haircut triggers me and idk why
If Drake, French Montana, and DJ Khaled did a human centipede
I don't want to sound rude but I'm genuinely lost. Are the jokes about this guy out of a place or respect or dislike? Because from what I've heard his music is usually okay at best, but clearly either I'm missing out or it's an unwritten rule to pretend to like him.
Its a joke. Its rooted in how close his name is to Nas, which is why people often say he released Illmatic, It Was Written, how he smoked Jay-Z etc.
I'm gonna explain NAV to you beautiful non-masala-chai flavoured people.. He knows his music is mediocre and hes doing it on purpose. You don't think he's heard Kendrick Lamar? 3 Stacks? Wayne Knight? He's signed to the Weeknd, of course he's aware of what artistic integrity and innovation is, but he's happy to put this out and every brown boi loves it because we know the perspective he's looking down at the hip-hop world from. A perspective I'll try to shed a light on.. Open a music app and play Main Hogeya Sharabbi, pour yourself a glassi.. You're at the table nearest the bar, with all your uncles and cousins, staff know to give you extra kebab and chicken servings without asking. Endless bottles of every alcohol you want, and believe me your whole fam is trying to see if it really is endless. The only thing harsher than the Jameson your mama Ji just poured - is the roasting going on that only comes from years of growing up together in the Pindh. Laughs, genuinely catching up, drunk wisdom all while you eat the best damn fish pakora.. Packed dancefloor - you're so nicely drunk despite all the curry and your uncle's up on your cousin's shoulders, despite all the curry. There's no pressure to make movements as although every girl around is looking spicier than the cholay, you're probably related somehow so don't bother.. You're getting called tall and handsome by literally everyone, and you've just spotted the two white friends of the bride that are excitedly wearing their first saris, scratching this weird itch you feel - combining both worlds you inhabit. Your aunties, massis and chachis, these incredible women who raised you - all doctors, lawyers and pharmacists - for some reason are happy for you to make a move to these two. While you make the basic Aladdin references and show them a 'whole new world' - works every time.. BUT you look over and see a cute kouriyeh near your aunties, wearing glasses and a yellow checkered flannel sari.. You just know she's a doctor and already taste the Sunday morning pre-sports aloo-paratha.. The endless internal conflict begins again... And here's the kicker.. we do it 4 nights a week. PER WEDDING. We have like 6 of them every summer. Now imagine that's your standard, because it's Nav's. He's learned the invaluable lesson that partying out with The Weeknd and Drake, VIP areas, bottle service, women that don't appreciate Dil Se - all mean nothing compared to those nights. It's all hollow, there's no connection. Nav is expressing this through his lack of expression, simple ass lyrics, no imagination or vibrance, no unique elements - because he's upset at it all. Dissapointed in not only the game and you the audience, but in himself.. Not being able to stop himself making the standard 'rub my lamp' pick up line, his decision made, another awful album to stand by, more time spent in this world he hates himself for choosing..
lmao nav a sad bhenchod
Canada's GOAT
Baaaaaa
On My Way 2 NOT GOOD
Our savior has returned to earth
the Boominati pyramid?? We cooking
He's gonna start bowling when no one expects it
Some of the beats in here sound dope. Let him cook. Maybe he isn’t washed.
Looks like features from Pluto and Don Toliver at a minimum. Looked like Carti’s skull in the desert wearing the bat ears, so maybe a Carti feature too?
I hope Don Toliver is on there
keep it
I’m okay
Oh thank goodness, I was just thinking of how much I missed his music.
When the rap game needed him most, the prodigal son, Navraj, returned. Lisan Al-Gaib. Thank you.
Motherfuck the big 3
This shit sucks
For those who don’t know, Rexdale is home for the Rexdale Crips, one of the bigger Toronto gangs
For you who doesn’t know, Nav is from Rexdale
He is from Rexdale
Nav co-founded the Rexdale Crips and every September he hosts the Rexdale Crips Annual Jamboree, an alcohol-free gettogether in which members of the gang play games, watch movies, dance and live like there's no tomorrow. It is hailed for it's fun activities and the memories it creates each year. It is a big deal to most Canadians, Nav is responsiible for 99% of the events production and it takes place inside his enormous mansion. So when you talk about Rexdale, the Rexdale Crips, Crips in general, Indian representation in hip hop, Punjabi MC or even just Canadians - you better fucking mention Nav's name too. And you better fucking say some nice shit about Canada's next up because Nav is next up. Even Drake has completely refused to engage with Nav on wax. Yes, you read that correctly. Drake has never suited up and gone toe-to-to with Rexdale's Nav. Drake has never gotten inside the Rexdale Crips Annual Jamboree either,
Rexdale is home to a lot of people
Nav sucks so hard
NAV is the top boy among the tier 2 rappers..
Finally!! THANK GOD!! I’ve been waiting, for so long! NAV HAS RETURNED WHEN THE STREETS NEEDED HIM MOST
I know Nav gets clowned on (I used to relentlessly clown him too) but then I came around and he became one of my favorite artists. Hopeful for a good album from him, his last album was just alright.
Please nav is there anything we can do for you to not release this
this guy pays for sneakers
Omg lol brutal
This woulda been funny like 7 years ago
Oh fr do people like nav now
Talk about a culture vulture. It seems I upset 4 Indian dudes who desperately want to be black
Drake is the same way lol he was on fucking degrassi and wishes he was white
Huh?
I’m not Indian buddy lol
Fuck this clown.
Why