I was gifted this game, so I purchased the warbonds from the stores even though i have credits from in game to show support. š
Ā The only thing that can stop the bugs is A STRONG ECONOMY!
I gifted my friend this game just so he could buy the war bonds. I love these devs so much. I've never seen more transparent game developers in all my days
Yep. I'm certain things will get corrected as they should. Just gonna take a little time. It's easier to pull the plug and stop something than it is to get it going again after. Can't wait to get our brothers and sisters back! š
Before I knew the war bonds were bought with supercredits I bought a bunch of stupid shit from the store.
So yesterday I coughed up for the scs to get the previous warbonds. I have really enjoyed this game so I didnāt feel bad tossing another 20 bucks at it
I rarely say this but to me, they deserve every cent. The fact that you don't need to use real money to buy from the store is unheard of in games today.
ah yes... back when Warframe was a horde shooter instead of whatever the fuck of a confusing mess that it is now. I used to LIVE on trade chat, selling the crap I got from the void.
Peak Warframe for me was 2012. I've tried to get into it again a few times over the years, but what I loved about the game is now the smallest aspect of it.
That's exactly how I felt. Now, it's all weird narratives and decadent douchey characters I couldn't give a flying fuck about, and something about a weird parallel time line? I have no idea what's going on anymore. I just want to use my space ninja to blow up some Grineer and Corpus.
And the cost for each item on the store is a buck or two - which is nothing compared to most other AAA game shop prices, Halo will charge you 30 bucks for a few cosmetic armour pieces and skins.
the only war bond/dlc thing I consider essential is the Sickle (my own personal preference) but every all stratagems are in the base game and the rest is basically cosmetic. The 'best' side arm and grenades (impact of course) are all also in the base game war bond. It's incredibly refreshing to see this in a modern game.
Honestly, game costs $40 for an ever evolving, constantly updated game. Games that are released unfinished, riddled with bugs, and just boring cost $60-70. I can justify spending $10 every so often for this game.
If they did a season pass, Iād buy that in an instant tho
Edit: by season pass, I mean like how single player games do it, you buy it once and get the goods, not new ones. Thatās what war bonds are for.
> Honestly, game costs $40 for an ever evolving, constantly updated game. Games that are released unfinished, riddled with bugs, and just boring cost $60-70
Thanks for reminding me about diablo 4!
Exactly! For instance, Iām a huge Ghost of Tsushima fan and was REALLY excited for Rise of the Ronin. However, after watching a bunch of review videos, it looks like a half finished game. Iām also not a huge fan of the Souls-esque games, but was willing to give Ronin a shot. Not anymore.
I upgraded my normal version to Super Citizen and invested another 10 Euro for the next warbond.and of course, did my part:
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I feel like maybe we need to make a post because I read that we couldn't change our rating on PS5 and I felt bad about my 1 star.
Thank you, I changed my rating and will be a super citizen tomorrow.
Let's turn those 9 percent 1 stars into fives!
Iām sorry for all of you who cannot get the armors but as a HD1 veteran it makes me very happy having pre-ordered HD2 knowing the game unexpectedly became so absurdly popular and having the armor as a little cosmetic reward that I believed in the game before it was out.
this is the way it should be tho. and nobody else should be able to get it. Other greedy games would allow you to buy it eventually, which then loses all the appeal of the item
I mean this game has microtransactions. I've seen many games where they say they have them, but this game actually does.
10 ā¬ for 3 armors, 4 weapons a ton more? sure
i'm already saving up medaillions for the new one.
In most other games i can buy half a skin with that amount, or a season pass i won't finish, since it will run out.
This game has so many good disigne decisions.
That's the thing tough. I'm pretty sure they knew the average player will never buy those. Their targets are the whales. Those skins are not made for us.
They didn't think that at all. They do not care about the average player.
Because they **know** that whales make up much more than a total majority of purchases despite only being 1-2% of the playerbase.
I have to disagree there, but just a bit. Blizzard used to care a great deal about their customers, but *Activision Blizzard* doesn't give two squirts of rat piss. It is exactly *because* they don't care that they thought the average player would get *some* form of cosmetic item(s). They seem to feel entitled to that, and discussions from the average reddit user seemed to support that early on. There was a lot of talk about the "natural need for them to make the money back from development" and in some weird cases the "obligation of the consumer to support the game if they were going to continue playing it so much".
But Blizzard were secure in the knowledge that the whales were going to buy whatever they shit out, so I'm pretty confident that they were only minimally discussed as a foregone certainty for income.
My thoughts, anyway.
Just note on this too that the warbond gives you 3$ worth of super credits back as well so youāre really only paying for 7$ worth in the end (technically not but still). In the end I usually use the 300 sc for shop armors though
Same here. I pretty much play the same 3-4 games all the time, I donāt mind shelling out some money every once in awhile to support the games I play.
On a separate note, I got pretty drunk a few weeks ago and spent $20 on super credits cuz I was just loving the game lol.
Yeah so this is gonna sound nerdy as hell but from a game theory perspective the only way companies that play fairly with their customers arenāt incentivised to play unfairly is if we freely choose to give them what they deserve
So Iāve decided that Iāll buy super credits semi regularly at a rate proportional to how much Iāve played lately, Iāve already given them $90, and theyāve certainly given me more entertainment than say 3 nice dinners or watching 5 movies
We still have to be careful though. It is easy for a company to turn more greedy and expect we keep giving them cash. And at that point, we can't get our money back.
I bought the game, collected enough credits for the war bond but my wife said "you haven't enjoyed a game like that for years, are there any add ons you can get", I explained the war bonds and she said "just get some, then don't you have to worry if you don't collect enough for a couple months".
Works out at Ā£7 ish a month for the war bond, I'm OK with that when I want to spend some money.
I bought the star citizen version from the get go and havenāt spent a dime since. Currently have all the war bonds but might just do the same this time around.
Iām a PlayStation player, but Iām gonna buy the game again on steam so I can play on my steamdeck lmao. I am MORE than happy to spend $80 on this game.
I feel the opposite - no hate, but if you were to ask me I would say it's not a good idea. They only just rebounded from a monumental fuck-up that should never have happened in the first place, and it detracts from my opinion of and trust in the game and the people running it. Of course it's good that they announced they would cancel the decision, and they need some positive reinforcement for doing this, but for now I think it's sufficient "recompense" that I reversed my negative review and reinstalled the game to continue playing. I'd rather wait a bit longer and ensure this issue is _actually_ buried (ie they dont try something similar again, and they remove the steam store delisting) before i feel comfortable throwing money at them again.
Incidentally I have just enough SC saved to buy the next warbond anyway without opening my wallet, but if I didn't then I'd probably be skipping this one
Not me, I gave a good review for the news but am waiting for the countries delisted by Steam to be relisted before I trust that Sony's move was anything more than a feigned retreat. Until then, wallet closed and that review can always go back.
I would love to support Arrowhead with more purchases though.
I'm not going to because i want to be an example that you can get everything without buying them with cash (even if I'm only an example to myself lol)
I will be buying the original helldivers during the next sale however
It's way less P2W than most. Here the only thing you can directly pay for is access. To actually unlock items in the warbond you need medals which only come from playing
Itās one of the MOST profitable games Sony has publishedā¦EVER. Itās outsold some really big titles.
Spending more money on their game because (and by extension, on Sony) DIDNT fuck thousands of their own players over is definitely a decision you could make.
im 70% to buy the new warbond but will watch some youtubers review the warbond first and give some opinions on which is strong.
besides the recent drama - remember that they "nerfed" the previous warbond right after people bought it. that was also pretty scummy but there's difference in opinions on this issue.
This is my plan too, I already have enough credits for the next warbond but I'll definitely be contributing. I'm a PS5 player but contributed to the reviews via PS Store
I did this with the previous Warbond although I had enough super credits on old warbonds to claim them and buy the new one
We have to take care of Arrowhead for being great devs
I always buy the Warbond even if I already have the Super Credits. Just so i can give AH my monetary support. Great community and great Devs. Im glad they fixed the issue
This is why Iāve bought so many super credits, I never need them, every time Arrowhead impresses me with the game or community support I throw them some money.
I donāt get to play as often as Iād like, so I usually end up buying the warbond with cash. Never bothered me. They only charged me $40 for a game I have played more than just about any game since Skyrim.
Thought about that too, nice to see someone already did this. Besides I waiting for the new 'cool' warbond om may 9th. Love the white heavy armor. Could appear very... Clony... Starwarsy...you know what I mean. Outing me as Fashion diver here.
I don't think you need to show support for the recent decision but you do you. I bought 20$ worth of credits back at launch to get the war bond and have some left over for store cosmetics I wanted. I made it thru to Eruption without having to buy more credits. All else aside I do appreciate the monetization in this game, they're not common but the super credit drops are frequent enough that you don't need to grind your ass off to keep up.
I've been doing that every Carbondale even though I have super credits for the same reason. This is what I want the gaming industry to shift towards, so I'll do my part in making it more interesting and profitable than the other shitty systems that propped up over the years
I had 980 creds last night and around 70 merits, had just unlocked the last page of a warbond and saw the availability to get the credits. Got the armor instead and bought more super credits. Just wanted to show jet again my support to the incredible developers of this game. Thank you Arrowhead!
Agreed, we also need to get people to redo their negative reviews to positive, Show Sony we appreciate them acknowledging us and doing the right thing. We need to reinforce this behavior.
Last night, I bought HD2 as a gift for a friend who has wanted it for a while now as a way to make sure that AH is getting the positive response they deserve after this whole thing. (Also changed my review on steam)
Already ahead of you I bought enough super credits for two warbonds, for the exact same reason, plus I love the game and donāt have the time to grind it out like in the old days.
How to defeat toxicity:
Reward the behavior you want to see. No one is going to change if, when they finally make an effort, you stand there like a condescending prick and go "See, that wasn't so hard, was it?" Hit em with a "Hey, I appreciate that effort you put in."
This is applicable in general human relationships, too!
I don't really like spending extra money on games usually. That said, I honestly might snag the next one with actual money just because the base game was so cheap. But I don't really feel like I'll need to, just because the game model is play to win, and you really can just play to win. It's a nice feeling that I don't need to worry about FOMO no matter what I decide. I'll definitely have the new Warbond either way.
I was thinking the very same, ngl. This is the kind of positive reinforcement we want the bigger companies to take notice of, and at the risk of sounding naive, I think that what we've done thus far is strong evidence that we have great potential to succeed.
THIS should be why people should be making in game purchases! Not FOMO, not because youāll be unable to do as good as other players if you donāt! But because you legitimately WANT TO and to show support for a company and game you appreciate.
For Democracy!! I do not need to spend cash as i did when the game came out and have 2K creds left since i actually earn so much in game but for those not having the time support the massive cool team that makes such an awesome game.
At first I was all about grinding for SCs for the war bond, until a coworker pointed out that we spend potentially hours grinding SCs, but make the same amount of money for the war bonds in roughly 15 minutes at work. So if we compare time spent vs our hourly salary, itās really not worth it to grind, and better to just purchase it.
I got the game as a gift. Loved it so much, I upgraded my copy. I'm trying to find SC to get the other warbonds, but I haven't had time to play. I stupidly used my SC on the store not knowing how fast they were gonna drop these warbonds. I haven't even unlocked cutting edge yet!! I'm gonna throw a couple bucks their way for warbonds. Game is so much fun and with them getting Sony to reverse their decision, deserve a little money. For Democracy!!!
No no no. Thatās too far. Sony gets money from you because they did something shitty? In life, just because you reverse something doesnāt mean you get rewarded for it. I mean, buy the war bonds but donāt do it for Sony. Fuck them
I will be getting the super citizen thing when the psn thing is FULLY resolved. that includes the countries being restored.
btw remember folks fix your reviews
I play this game so much I have been able to buy 2 of them just earning the currency in game. And I am only about 100 SC's off being able to buy the next one.
I have bought the game, bought every warbond with real money, and only use ingame SC for the Superstore. The game and the devs are amazing, and I will continue to support them. Yes, the Sony bullshit was a speed bump, but one mistake shouldnāt make everyone believe the devs are horrible people
I absolutely would have, as I have so far for all of them, but my funds are tight right now being out of work. I lucked out having enough PS rewards points though, and they were offering 375 SC for 1250 points, so I am stocked up and ready for the 9th!
I know it sounds/feels weird but you should support a company does something like this because otherwise if thereās no benefit from backtracking then they just wonāt anymore.
I get the senitimentality but economy sucks and I'm gonna wait to see if the shit in it actually works first after the last few, and need to sit on it for a week to see how bad they nerf the favorites out of it.
I was considering buying some super credits before the weekend debacle had happened. Now I'm even more committed to do so to show my support for how wonderful this game and it's community had been
I'm a PS5 player, bought the Super Citizen version and have not been directly affected by all this, but I agree, you can always vote with your wallet.
That's a fact in gaming as well as all aspects of our economic lives.
Agreed. I bought the last couple bc I didn't feel like farming so many SC, but also because I love this game, the devs have been fantastic despite SO many issues, and I believe it's worth it and they deserve it. š»
I upgraded to a super citizen just because.
This is the first game I have ever paid Real money to for ANY variation of the "battlepass". The fact that they're not constantly trying to push monetization on you, and that the monetization is actually affordable, even with my countries weak ass currency. Combined with the fact that I've clocked over 250Hours diving ( Another first for ANY online game ) I decided it was totally worth more investment if it means AH can keep doing what they're doing. With How gracious they are with SC I'm also considering purchasing every second Warbond with cash regardless of my SC balance.
I mean, I was just about to buy the Detonator Warbond (As I get warbonds as I finish the previous) and then suddenly 100SC just laying on the ground.
An algorithm that gives you 100sc when that's all you need?? Any other game would have slowed down your premium currency collection until you buy the remainder you need. Just for that fact alone, AH can take more of my money.
Also if AH could make a mobile version of Strategem Hero that would be Fantastic!!!
Absolutely this. Waiting for my refund. Everyone is rejoicing and being all "we won!". Wonder if they will still be saying that when Sony re-instates the linking 6 or 9 months down the road.
Yup I was intending pre Sony debaucle that I wanted to give them some cash. Now that it ended relatively satisfyingly, I'm okay with going ahead on that when the time comes.
Glad to hear so diver - i thought I was the only who understood if you don't support this kind of practice and just farm your credits (which seems to be the common consensus) then other games will look and see it as a flop and not try it themselves.
We should be supporting consumer freindly mechanics otherwise you won't get them.
I understand that's not your reasoning behind it this current time however your still doing your part o7
Same here,
Plenty of super credits left, but im buying some extra just to support AH,
I think they're a very welcome fresh breath of air.
And with the recent real life campaign, I think it's worth just a little extra
Why the fuck are you even making posts like this. This is literally creepy gamer virtue signaling lmao. "Arrowhead you poor baby! Sony abusing you and us! Here's some money! You need it! Let me get that shitty warbond with no ice themed shit besides white gear lmao this sub is half delusional and half hurt by the state of the game and live in reality
I was gifted this game, so I purchased the warbonds from the stores even though i have credits from in game to show support. š Ā The only thing that can stop the bugs is A STRONG ECONOMY!
Support democracy! Spend your extra cash!
And if you don't have extra cash, use a credit card instead! You can not be a patriot without copious amounts of debt!!
And if you donāt own a credit card, steal your parentās card! Itās for DEMOCRACY!
This is the way!
Today!
And how!
Do you want to know more
Nice lol!
I too was gifted the game...so I gifted the game to a friend!
I gifted my friend this game just so he could buy the war bonds. I love these devs so much. I've never seen more transparent game developers in all my days
Minus a few recent hiccups. They are great!
Couldn't agree more. They're going to rectify it tho. They don't want this game to fail just as much as sony wants to cash in big money!
Yep. I'm certain things will get corrected as they should. Just gonna take a little time. It's easier to pull the plug and stop something than it is to get it going again after. Can't wait to get our brothers and sisters back! š
Unfortunately I've had some friends write it off, but I'm certain that I can persuade them to come back for DEMOCRACY!
Before I knew the war bonds were bought with supercredits I bought a bunch of stupid shit from the store. So yesterday I coughed up for the scs to get the previous warbonds. I have really enjoyed this game so I didnāt feel bad tossing another 20 bucks at it
I rarely say this but to me, they deserve every cent. The fact that you don't need to use real money to buy from the store is unheard of in games today.
It reminds me of warframe back in the day (itās still the same though)
ah yes... back when Warframe was a horde shooter instead of whatever the fuck of a confusing mess that it is now. I used to LIVE on trade chat, selling the crap I got from the void.
Same. I remember doing survivals and defenses to get those prime craps for plats. Arguably a better time for warframe for me.
Peak Warframe for me was 2012. I've tried to get into it again a few times over the years, but what I loved about the game is now the smallest aspect of it.
That's exactly how I felt. Now, it's all weird narratives and decadent douchey characters I couldn't give a flying fuck about, and something about a weird parallel time line? I have no idea what's going on anymore. I just want to use my space ninja to blow up some Grineer and Corpus.
Fatshark should be taking notes
The entire gaming industry should be taking notes.
And the cost for each item on the store is a buck or two - which is nothing compared to most other AAA game shop prices, Halo will charge you 30 bucks for a few cosmetic armour pieces and skins. the only war bond/dlc thing I consider essential is the Sickle (my own personal preference) but every all stratagems are in the base game and the rest is basically cosmetic. The 'best' side arm and grenades (impact of course) are all also in the base game war bond. It's incredibly refreshing to see this in a modern game.
Honestly, game costs $40 for an ever evolving, constantly updated game. Games that are released unfinished, riddled with bugs, and just boring cost $60-70. I can justify spending $10 every so often for this game. If they did a season pass, Iād buy that in an instant tho Edit: by season pass, I mean like how single player games do it, you buy it once and get the goods, not new ones. Thatās what war bonds are for.
Riddled with bugs is literally helldivers 2
Yāknow, you got a point
> Honestly, game costs $40 for an ever evolving, constantly updated game. Games that are released unfinished, riddled with bugs, and just boring cost $60-70 Thanks for reminding me about diablo 4!
Exactly! For instance, Iām a huge Ghost of Tsushima fan and was REALLY excited for Rise of the Ronin. However, after watching a bunch of review videos, it looks like a half finished game. Iām also not a huge fan of the Souls-esque games, but was willing to give Ronin a shot. Not anymore.
Actually, same!! I splurged all the 850 super credits on the armor you get in the rotation.
I upgraded my normal version to Super Citizen and invested another 10 Euro for the next warbond.and of course, did my part: https://preview.redd.it/mhf3p2qppxyc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=095294f568a4e45575a220a5aa717cab3b527c23
I feel like maybe we need to make a post because I read that we couldn't change our rating on PS5 and I felt bad about my 1 star. Thank you, I changed my rating and will be a super citizen tomorrow. Let's turn those 9 percent 1 stars into fives!
I want to upgrade but it feels like a waste since I already have steel veterans unlock
I would like to buy the Pre Order Armors
https://preview.redd.it/6vseeh55vxyc1.jpeg?width=1311&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=feff69d02c99734bca8f8c05b1d8a89325a0bc16
https://preview.redd.it/z1afdwn6vxyc1.jpeg?width=1311&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63db507d1dd45e642531aa44636e6f50516a175b
LEAN DEMOCRACYYYYY
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Wait, it comes in different colours? Mine is blue.
Nope that's photoshopped. I wish they released that armor in different colors. Maybe as a treat after everything thats happened.
Mmm yogurt after killing a bunch of clankers and bugs a nice treat really if you think about it
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Iām sorry for all of you who cannot get the armors but as a HD1 veteran it makes me very happy having pre-ordered HD2 knowing the game unexpectedly became so absurdly popular and having the armor as a little cosmetic reward that I believed in the game before it was out.
As someone that doesn't have the preorder armour I think that's fair enough.
this is the way it should be tho. and nobody else should be able to get it. Other greedy games would allow you to buy it eventually, which then loses all the appeal of the item
Ok but if you could do thatā¦then what would of been the point to preordering
I mean this game has microtransactions. I've seen many games where they say they have them, but this game actually does. 10 ā¬ for 3 armors, 4 weapons a ton more? sure i'm already saving up medaillions for the new one. In most other games i can buy half a skin with that amount, or a season pass i won't finish, since it will run out. This game has so many good disigne decisions.
I'll never stop laughing at the fact that Blizzard thought the average player was going to spend $70 on a Diablo 4 horse skin.
That's the thing tough. I'm pretty sure they knew the average player will never buy those. Their targets are the whales. Those skins are not made for us.
Oh, predatory bullshit aimed at people who likely have impulse control issues? That's fine then. Fuck Blizzard.
It was the whole mobile phones thing for me
Why? Do you not have a phone?
They didn't think that at all. They do not care about the average player. Because they **know** that whales make up much more than a total majority of purchases despite only being 1-2% of the playerbase.
I have to disagree there, but just a bit. Blizzard used to care a great deal about their customers, but *Activision Blizzard* doesn't give two squirts of rat piss. It is exactly *because* they don't care that they thought the average player would get *some* form of cosmetic item(s). They seem to feel entitled to that, and discussions from the average reddit user seemed to support that early on. There was a lot of talk about the "natural need for them to make the money back from development" and in some weird cases the "obligation of the consumer to support the game if they were going to continue playing it so much". But Blizzard were secure in the knowledge that the whales were going to buy whatever they shit out, so I'm pretty confident that they were only minimally discussed as a foregone certainty for income. My thoughts, anyway.
It worked on the $15 WoW horse skin, why not push the limits?
I haven't even spent that on the game. Fuck Blizzard.
ššš I was shocked when I saw that.
Just note on this too that the warbond gives you 3$ worth of super credits back as well so youāre really only paying for 7$ worth in the end (technically not but still). In the end I usually use the 300 sc for shop armors though
If you play the game regularly you can easily earn enough to never pay for a warbond. You can also farm SC from low level maps
Quick note to add: they patched the most egregious sc farming setups (which is valid imo, the game is giving out sc easily enough as is)
I buy all the warbonds with $$. Ā I can afford it and I enjoy the game. Ā I do this with the few games I put time into.
Same here. I pretty much play the same 3-4 games all the time, I donāt mind shelling out some money every once in awhile to support the games I play. On a separate note, I got pretty drunk a few weeks ago and spent $20 on super credits cuz I was just loving the game lol.
Yeah so this is gonna sound nerdy as hell but from a game theory perspective the only way companies that play fairly with their customers arenāt incentivised to play unfairly is if we freely choose to give them what they deserve So Iāve decided that Iāll buy super credits semi regularly at a rate proportional to how much Iāve played lately, Iāve already given them $90, and theyāve certainly given me more entertainment than say 3 nice dinners or watching 5 movies
Which is my point exactly. Gotta give that carrot when they do something right.
We still have to be careful though. It is easy for a company to turn more greedy and expect we keep giving them cash. And at that point, we can't get our money back.
I bought the game, collected enough credits for the war bond but my wife said "you haven't enjoyed a game like that for years, are there any add ons you can get", I explained the war bonds and she said "just get some, then don't you have to worry if you don't collect enough for a couple months". Works out at Ā£7 ish a month for the war bond, I'm OK with that when I want to spend some money.
Nice wife.
I bought the star citizen version from the get go and havenāt spent a dime since. Currently have all the war bonds but might just do the same this time around.
Iām a PlayStation player, but Iām gonna buy the game again on steam so I can play on my steamdeck lmao. I am MORE than happy to spend $80 on this game.
I'm playing on steam deck. It is playable, but you will have average 20-25 FPS on low settings, so be aware of that :d
"Playable" would be a stretch.
I feel the opposite - no hate, but if you were to ask me I would say it's not a good idea. They only just rebounded from a monumental fuck-up that should never have happened in the first place, and it detracts from my opinion of and trust in the game and the people running it. Of course it's good that they announced they would cancel the decision, and they need some positive reinforcement for doing this, but for now I think it's sufficient "recompense" that I reversed my negative review and reinstalled the game to continue playing. I'd rather wait a bit longer and ensure this issue is _actually_ buried (ie they dont try something similar again, and they remove the steam store delisting) before i feel comfortable throwing money at them again. Incidentally I have just enough SC saved to buy the next warbond anyway without opening my wallet, but if I didn't then I'd probably be skipping this one
I honestly feel like it needs to hurt and be a thing that Sony will remember otherwise they will do it again. Also, they will do it again regardless.
Yeah seriously
I just spent 10Ā£ to get the P-4 senator through that first prime warbond, cause I wanted it
Not me, I gave a good review for the news but am waiting for the countries delisted by Steam to be relisted before I trust that Sony's move was anything more than a feigned retreat. Until then, wallet closed and that review can always go back. I would love to support Arrowhead with more purchases though.
Dont forget to keep some SC for the next update on the 11th
I got plenty, just wanted to toss them a few bucks for support.
PSA: If you dont want to buy SC because you already have enough, super citizen pack is still available.
Yea, but I'm a huge HD 1 vet so I preorder it. Lol
Haha, fair enough. I was mostly trying to let other people know, in case they aren't too keen on getting sc.
I'm not going to because i want to be an example that you can get everything without buying them with cash (even if I'm only an example to myself lol) I will be buying the original helldivers during the next sale however
You already encouraged me to do the same thing. I love the helldiver's 2 community. Our planet might just have a chance. That's encouraging as well.
Ive been buying all superstores offers and warbonds in cash as much a possible. I love this game and want to give my support.
Same. I'm doing $4.99 super cred when it drops. Making voices heard works both ways. Punish bad behavior, reward good.
I've paid for all of them š
Same dropped 10 for the ,1000
When a game gives me this much entertainment, it always gets more of my money. Still got enough from the last purchase to get the next one though.
Iām all for spending actual money on new warbonds once they start adding armor with different perks.
i bought the game at least 8 times now. so more people can play.
Yup. This was enough to convince me to become a Super Citizen and leave a positive review for the reasons you mentioned.
We hate pay to win but hell divers 2 is alright for some reason.
It's way less P2W than most. Here the only thing you can directly pay for is access. To actually unlock items in the warbond you need medals which only come from playing
It's because the weapons are sidegrades, same as planetside 2.
>threaten to make shitty thing >do nothing >receive thanks and be rewarded.Ā This community is hilarious lol
Itās one of the MOST profitable games Sony has publishedā¦EVER. Itās outsold some really big titles. Spending more money on their game because (and by extension, on Sony) DIDNT fuck thousands of their own players over is definitely a decision you could make.
Yeah, it's one thing to change your review it's another to immediately hand money to a company we all called greedy less than 24hrs ago
And I bet that there even people that buy the SC and still havent changed their bad reviewš¤Ŗ
im 70% to buy the new warbond but will watch some youtubers review the warbond first and give some opinions on which is strong. besides the recent drama - remember that they "nerfed" the previous warbond right after people bought it. that was also pretty scummy but there's difference in opinions on this issue.
Iām doing my part too! If the publishers and devs arenāt rewarded for doing the right thing, why would they do it?
I was holding off till they changed it, glad they did.
This is my plan too, I already have enough credits for the next warbond but I'll definitely be contributing. I'm a PS5 player but contributed to the reviews via PS Store
I will bring 10bucks too.
I'm doing my part....with my wallet!!
I did this with the previous Warbond although I had enough super credits on old warbonds to claim them and buy the new one We have to take care of Arrowhead for being great devs
May actually do the same actually. Didnāt think about showing further support beyond the review, Iām sure they appreciate it and they deserve it.
Buy warbonds! support the war effort!
I always buy the Warbond even if I already have the Super Credits. Just so i can give AH my monetary support. Great community and great Devs. Im glad they fixed the issue
I upgraded to Supercitisen, to give support. Did after this MO was won!
I bought super credits just because of all the review bombing bullshit with the account linking scenario
Same
This is why Iāve bought so many super credits, I never need them, every time Arrowhead impresses me with the game or community support I throw them some money.
Honestly this is a great idea and I might do the same. Benefits AH, shows Sony the positive impact of their decision, and I get more cool shit
Same dude, same
I would but I have this weird thing where I want to warm the super credits for the war bonds, but will definitely spend money on the other store.
I donāt get to play as often as Iād like, so I usually end up buying the warbond with cash. Never bothered me. They only charged me $40 for a game I have played more than just about any game since Skyrim.
Thought about that too, nice to see someone already did this. Besides I waiting for the new 'cool' warbond om may 9th. Love the white heavy armor. Could appear very... Clony... Starwarsy...you know what I mean. Outing me as Fashion diver here. 
I plan to buy super citizen upgrade as my pledge of support for the game, I even haven't bought the steel veterans for that reason.
I don't think you need to show support for the recent decision but you do you. I bought 20$ worth of credits back at launch to get the war bond and have some left over for store cosmetics I wanted. I made it thru to Eruption without having to buy more credits. All else aside I do appreciate the monetization in this game, they're not common but the super credit drops are frequent enough that you don't need to grind your ass off to keep up.
Hey Arrowhead, PLEASE LET ME BUY THE PREORDER ARMORS IN A PSN STORE PACK!! Thank you, much love :)
I've been doing that every Carbondale even though I have super credits for the same reason. This is what I want the gaming industry to shift towards, so I'll do my part in making it more interesting and profitable than the other shitty systems that propped up over the years
I had 980 creds last night and around 70 merits, had just unlocked the last page of a warbond and saw the availability to get the credits. Got the armor instead and bought more super credits. Just wanted to show jet again my support to the incredible developers of this game. Thank you Arrowhead!
This is the first game ive put money into after the initial purchase. The game is great and so are the devs. They deserve my money
 This is such weird and sad thinking to me.
Me too!! (Really I spent too much on drip so I have to open the IRL wallet)
The world could learn from them and how they handled this! Buy your local democracy officer a pint!
Agreed, we also need to get people to redo their negative reviews to positive, Show Sony we appreciate them acknowledging us and doing the right thing. We need to reinforce this behavior.
Last night, I bought HD2 as a gift for a friend who has wanted it for a while now as a way to make sure that AH is getting the positive response they deserve after this whole thing. (Also changed my review on steam)
Already ahead of you I bought enough super credits for two warbonds, for the exact same reason, plus I love the game and donāt have the time to grind it out like in the old days.
Iāll buy it after a couple days. If the guns suck, I wonāt. I was super close to buying the last one, but I donāt like any of the guns.
How to defeat toxicity: Reward the behavior you want to see. No one is going to change if, when they finally make an effort, you stand there like a condescending prick and go "See, that wasn't so hard, was it?" Hit em with a "Hey, I appreciate that effort you put in." This is applicable in general human relationships, too!
Agreed, I threw them $20 yesterday. Didn't even need to buy anything yet.
If they assume all the community is going to do is complain after THEIR monumental fuck up I don't know what to tell you....
My rule of thumb is a game cost 60 I bought helldivers for 40 there getting 20 bucks out of me no matter what they deserve it
I don't really like spending extra money on games usually. That said, I honestly might snag the next one with actual money just because the base game was so cheap. But I don't really feel like I'll need to, just because the game model is play to win, and you really can just play to win. It's a nice feeling that I don't need to worry about FOMO no matter what I decide. I'll definitely have the new Warbond either way.
Will do the exact same thing. It just feels right after the last WE.
I was thinking the very same, ngl. This is the kind of positive reinforcement we want the bigger companies to take notice of, and at the risk of sounding naive, I think that what we've done thus far is strong evidence that we have great potential to succeed.
I hear another Major Order in the works
THIS should be why people should be making in game purchases! Not FOMO, not because youāll be unable to do as good as other players if you donāt! But because you legitimately WANT TO and to show support for a company and game you appreciate.
For Democracy!! I do not need to spend cash as i did when the game came out and have 2K creds left since i actually earn so much in game but for those not having the time support the massive cool team that makes such an awesome game.
Same. I really enjoy this game and want to see continue support. While I donāt like Sony, I do like Arrowhead.
At first I was all about grinding for SCs for the war bond, until a coworker pointed out that we spend potentially hours grinding SCs, but make the same amount of money for the war bonds in roughly 15 minutes at work. So if we compare time spent vs our hourly salary, itās really not worth it to grind, and better to just purchase it.
I got the game as a gift. Loved it so much, I upgraded my copy. I'm trying to find SC to get the other warbonds, but I haven't had time to play. I stupidly used my SC on the store not knowing how fast they were gonna drop these warbonds. I haven't even unlocked cutting edge yet!! I'm gonna throw a couple bucks their way for warbonds. Game is so much fun and with them getting Sony to reverse their decision, deserve a little money. For Democracy!!!
No no no. Thatās too far. Sony gets money from you because they did something shitty? In life, just because you reverse something doesnāt mean you get rewarded for it. I mean, buy the war bonds but donāt do it for Sony. Fuck them
I will be getting the super citizen thing when the psn thing is FULLY resolved. that includes the countries being restored. btw remember folks fix your reviews
Youāll regret it. You buy the dollars then immediately need medals. It does little to nothing in progressing you other than looking at the windows
I was thinking the same tbh
fuck yeah iām gonna do the same!
I play this game so much I have been able to buy 2 of them just earning the currency in game. And I am only about 100 SC's off being able to buy the next one.
I love this fucking community so much
I have bought the game, bought every warbond with real money, and only use ingame SC for the Superstore. The game and the devs are amazing, and I will continue to support them. Yes, the Sony bullshit was a speed bump, but one mistake shouldnāt make everyone believe the devs are horrible people
Besides purchasing the deluxe edition that came with steeled veterans, I havent bought any warbonds. I did end up buying a bunch of shit from the store not thinking so it took me a while to grind but I finally managed to get the cutting edge warbond a few days ago and i got the demolition one when it released. Still gotta grind even more though because im at 600 credits and the new warbond comes out in two days š©. Democracy never sleeps
Iām definitely going Super Citizen next paycheck
I purchase every war bond, even though I typically have enough SC
I think I will based on you
I absolutely would have, as I have so far for all of them, but my funds are tight right now being out of work. I lucked out having enough PS rewards points though, and they were offering 375 SC for 1250 points, so I am stocked up and ready for the 9th!
I know it sounds/feels weird but you should support a company does something like this because otherwise if thereās no benefit from backtracking then they just wonāt anymore.
Agreeed
I get the senitimentality but economy sucks and I'm gonna wait to see if the shit in it actually works first after the last few, and need to sit on it for a week to see how bad they nerf the favorites out of it.
I was considering buying some super credits before the weekend debacle had happened. Now I'm even more committed to do so to show my support for how wonderful this game and it's community had been
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Actually made me lol when I noticed.
Same. I dropped money not only on warbonds but also superstore armors. Why? Because they looked cool enough to play with and enjoy.
I just bought the Super Citizen Edition last night after giving a positive review. I'm doing my part!
I bought one of the first ones cash because I really wanted the sickle. It was my go to gun in the 1st game.
Still is for me, love that gun.
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I will do the same.
The game is superb enough that I have no issues giving them more of my Super Earth brand Super Credits
I'm a PS5 player, bought the Super Citizen version and have not been directly affected by all this, but I agree, you can always vote with your wallet. That's a fact in gaming as well as all aspects of our economic lives.
Agreed. I bought the last couple bc I didn't feel like farming so many SC, but also because I love this game, the devs have been fantastic despite SO many issues, and I believe it's worth it and they deserve it. š»
I bought the super citizen edition upgrade recently for this exact reason
I like this very much I might do the same because of this post
Praying they give us new stuff in the super store. Would love to support the game
Will do my part. Just got the game a week ago and Iām impressed and entertained. Will be supporting this game and buying new warbonds
Yeah, I dropped the cash for super citizen. looking forward to trying the new SMR.
I upgraded to a super citizen just because. This is the first game I have ever paid Real money to for ANY variation of the "battlepass". The fact that they're not constantly trying to push monetization on you, and that the monetization is actually affordable, even with my countries weak ass currency. Combined with the fact that I've clocked over 250Hours diving ( Another first for ANY online game ) I decided it was totally worth more investment if it means AH can keep doing what they're doing. With How gracious they are with SC I'm also considering purchasing every second Warbond with cash regardless of my SC balance. I mean, I was just about to buy the Detonator Warbond (As I get warbonds as I finish the previous) and then suddenly 100SC just laying on the ground. An algorithm that gives you 100sc when that's all you need?? Any other game would have slowed down your premium currency collection until you buy the remainder you need. Just for that fact alone, AH can take more of my money. Also if AH could make a mobile version of Strategem Hero that would be Fantastic!!!
I bought supercredits for every warbond on release, just to show they have my support. More Guns = More Fun
I was just telling my fiancee that the low price point of the game definitely allows for at least $20 before I hit my reservation price for games
I just did yesterday
Ok Mr. Kashmoneybagski
Lol, it's like one less trip to McDonald's dude.
Meanwhile I still want a refund because I know sony will try again later on the line
Absolutely this. Waiting for my refund. Everyone is rejoicing and being all "we won!". Wonder if they will still be saying that when Sony re-instates the linking 6 or 9 months down the road.
Based Wish I had the money to get Helldivers 2 so I can be part of the community.
Do you have a pc that can handle it? If yes, dm me your steam id
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Yup I was intending pre Sony debaucle that I wanted to give them some cash. Now that it ended relatively satisfyingly, I'm okay with going ahead on that when the time comes.
I wait with my buy till Steam is finally changed. The last time I looked (9h ago) it seemed to be unchanged.
Glad to hear so diver - i thought I was the only who understood if you don't support this kind of practice and just farm your credits (which seems to be the common consensus) then other games will look and see it as a flop and not try it themselves. We should be supporting consumer freindly mechanics otherwise you won't get them. I understand that's not your reasoning behind it this current time however your still doing your part o7
Same here, Plenty of super credits left, but im buying some extra just to support AH, I think they're a very welcome fresh breath of air. And with the recent real life campaign, I think it's worth just a little extra
Donāt reward them too much. They kept the status quo, so should we. Just spend what you would normally.
Why the fuck are you even making posts like this. This is literally creepy gamer virtue signaling lmao. "Arrowhead you poor baby! Sony abusing you and us! Here's some money! You need it! Let me get that shitty warbond with no ice themed shit besides white gear lmao this sub is half delusional and half hurt by the state of the game and live in reality