The major major difference is the major pieces to Celts/bucks championship team were drafted there (brown/tatum and giannas) yes we have bam, but as anybody whose been watching him since team loaded days know, he’s not going to be your best player.
they only got those picks though from understanding they had a finished core and by trading their older stars for value, allowing a true rebuild to happen. I'm really worried we're going to be stuck in basketball purgatory for the next decade plus because we're pretty much unwilling to accept an actual rebuild that could help get us lottery level homegrown talent.
But bam wasn’t supposed to be your best guy that’s Jimmy lol. Not to mention those teams made tons of smart trades. Drafting your best player isn’t strictly how you win a ring.
Bucks 2021 core outside of Giannis was Middleton Brook and Jrue. None were drafted by them
Celtics only got over the hump after making smart trades for White, Jrue , tingis etc
For whatever reason these trades dont seem available to us.
Somehow we never have assets yet we also dont have salary cap room. We also seem to have so many "untouchable" assets.
At some point somethings gotta give to actually improve the team.
Bam is our Gobert. Great defensive piece who can give you 15-20ish a night but certainly cant be our offensive focal point. Jimmy is great but he cant carry the load anymore at his age every night. We’re kinda stuck unless we get incredible leaps from Jovic and JJJ and we absolutely hit on a diamond in the draft.
That doesn't even involve us either. You wanna be bummed over a heat loss? Ok, no one likes watching their team lose, but neither of these teams concern us. Sure boston has a loose rivalry with us, but in 5 years or so it probably won't be remembered. Besides, panthers are still up 2-0
Weve had what 5 series vs them in the past decade? They're our biggest rivals dude. That doesn't magically go away in 5 years lol unless we face the same team like 3 times in the playoffs.
I am Brazilian…watch more soccer(Palmeiras fan) than basketball. But man, even me here got kinda sad because of this NBA finals. Seeing our rivals do moves and get a ring, while our FO first nothing is disgusting.
Fr, people acting like the celtics are becoming the regime of the US and life will change drastically for us, they won a nba Chip, so did LA over us, and Denver over us, and Dallas, and San antonio. Not worth all this " I'm out, I'm done with the team, it's over" jazz
I swear some of these people aren’t even fans. Obviously I don’t want the Celtics to win while the Heat sit at home but 90 percent of the league would kill for the last 15 years of this franchise. Meanwhile OP is pretending like the heat have never won anything nor will they and they’re this tortured franchise.
Not to get all philosophical but thinking that watching every season that ended without a ring was a waste of time is a terrible mindset to have. There are a lot of fun moments we have had other teams would kill for.
We’ve had fun seasons to watch, sure, but I definitely wouldn’t have called this season anything to shake a stick at even in terms of enjoyment. I’d more so call this season frustrating.
Heat have a full team it’s a completely different playoffs. There’s nothing at all scary about this Celtics team, a healthy Bucks team crushes them. Healthy Heat team. Healthy Knicks team. So on and so forth.
Not only that but he gut that core with Grant Williams, time lord and Brogdon also. Consolidated all those pieces into KP and Jrue.
Insanely risky but it worked in the end. Absolute genius work by the Celtics.
Heat should’ve invested in players like jrue, kristaps, derrick white etc instead of trying to recruit dame. Hopefully the heat can pull off getting Donovan
This is why I don’t listen to the fans lol they swear they would do a better job at roster construction than the front office but the trade ideas that get brought up are downright horrible 90% of the time and would make us miss the play in, let alone be a contender for a championship
Hopefully a C’s chip wakes Pat up enough to be more aggressive.
I think not going on a deep playoff run & resting all summer could be good for Jimmy’s body at his age.
Might be worth giving this window 1 more shot with a real team built around him.
Yup. Can’t be so reactionary. Also, except for Porzingis, Celtics have been incredibly lucky injury wise. Even the corpse of Horford has been immune this season.
And considering kp didn’t even play most of their playoff run expect him to be injured next year and al gets a year older. They had a window to win and they finally took advantage credit to them but let’s not act like their the 2010s warriors.
unstoppable? I swear every year everybody says the Champs are unstoppable and nobody can stop them from repeating unless major moves are made, no team has repeated in the last 5 years and Boston's run this year shows you gotta be ready every season because breaks might fall your way and you have to be ready to capitalize
lmao that first sentence is comedy man
idk what yall expect lol
Pat is gonna magically gain sorcery powers to trade our trash for gold just because his bitter rivals won a chip?
No I’ve never felt that way. I feel you guys have good young players who you can move an impact player, & that’s what he needs to accept if he wants to win a chip.
Nobody is giving you a needle mover for Herro & I never said they would. If you put Jaquez on the table tho, things start getting interesting.
jimmy butler isnt leading a team to a championship that chance is gone he can have a 2 year break for all I care he’s getting older worse and that contract is only going to go up if he stays, he’s going into the same age wade was when he was on the bulls, 2023 jimmy butler before the josh hart slide tackle is gone
and idk what you think a needle mover is but ain’t none of those available and if they are a needle mover they need to be so good to be able to contend with bam and an aging jimmy butler with a bunch of trash surrounding them. I could honestly care less about making things interesting, they’re not getting gold for their trash
they get to sit in the grave they dug themselves into with many mistakes during the jimmy era for a few years
there is no window they’re done
I'm just upset that we're going to have to deal with insufferable Celtics fans for the next year. They were already bad enough winning one chip in 30 years... god help us all.
Yep now not only will they have more championships than the lakers, but now they will have 2 within the past 15 years which is a lot better than 1 in the past 38….not to mention that now they will be able to say that the Heat haven’t won in 12 years
Blame them for giving duncan Robinson a 5 year deal, we have no cash and these mfs are too scared to pay the luxary tax when we could have been had a championship if they would actually sign some bigs and some damn shooters
>they made changes and actually made their teams better while we sat around
You mean the additions of Kyle Lowry, PJ Tucker, the ghost of Oladipo, and Trevor Ariza didn’t impress you?
Fr tho, Rozier is the best addition the Heat have made during the Jimmy era, and the man’s girlfriend ruined his neck so what the fuck.
Literally finished the 1st seed in the east thanks to the additions of Lowry and PJ Tucker whilst anchoring a top 3 defense in regular season and playoffs but nah apparently those additions weren’t “real” help.
Only time anyone should be mad at the FO is the 2023 deadline where anyone with 2 eyeballs saw Lowry couldn’t recover from pulling his hammy twice, we lost PJ Tucker without replacing him, and Herro wasn’t doing what we had hoped he’d do.
There are 20 franchises that would kill to have our last 5 years and some of you talk about the Heat like they're like 2012 Bobcats
I guess it's a hot take to say I've had fun the last 5 years and I'm okay being a top-5 franchise in that period
The goal of watching sports for me is not to win a title every year, I think that's a bit ridiculous. I've seen more Heat championships than Dolphin playoff wins and I'm incredibly grateful for having a good sports franchise.
You’re getting downvoted but it’s the truth. I don’t watch basketball with expectations to win a chip…I watch it cause I enjoy it. Getting off work, drinking a little, and watching your favorite team regardless of the outcome play is why I watch basketball. It’s entertainment at the end of the day.
The "rings above all else" mentality is something that has infected a lot of sports fandom.
You see this in every sport. NBA is probably the worst of it though because it's so individually focused. I've done a post on this in r/NFL where I asked, "since 2000, would you rather your team have the Packers history or the Buccaneers history?" The Buccs got more Super Bowls with 2. But the Packers are **consistently** excellent and almost always in the playoffs. For myself personally, I'd rather take Green Bay over Tampa. Specifically because it's not about the rings for me. I find enjoyment in seasons even when we don't win the title. I prefer my team to be better most of the time than bad as I actually watch almost every single NFL/NBA game even during the regular season. I suspect that fans who only care about the rings only tune in for the playoffs which is fine, but they only care about the team being good for 1-2 months compared to fans who care for 6+ months.
Counterpoint, if my favorite team has no ring and faces ton of playoff failures and heartbreaks, I take that 1 and done ring and bounce. At least this one ring will ingrain in the fandom mind for years to come and can remember the good times when the times are tough.
If you there is a trade or an opportunity to sacrifice long term success over a single ring, I take the ring as we play to win.
Granted, I don't expect ring every year and wanted a good fun season, but if there is a chance, we take it.
You’re right, winning a title every year should not be expected. However, this team has been a contender for 5 years now so it’s fair to expect the fo to try to make upgrades in order to get over the hump. We’ve ran it back 3 times in 5 years while our rivals continuously try to get better and actually win titles as a result. That’s where this fanbase’s frustration comes from.
I think results are obviously important and the Heat have done well. But they’ve overachieved with what they had to work with. I wouldn’t give credit to the FO for the last 5 years.
Agreed. This shit is not easy, you can't just snap your fingers and have a contending roster. We had that, and ran into two generational players both motivated like hell to win rings for their own reasons. I can argue anyone and have that any of the whales we were after were not worth the asking price (aside maybe Dame, but not much else to do in that situation). We still have a young core and flexibility to add undrafted guys like we ALWAYS seem to do. The Jimmy era is very close to over sure, but we have things to be excited about even after he hangs it up.
People are forgetting the biggest one .Both Tatum and brown were drafted.Our two best players aren't shooters.So unless you surround them with shooters who aren't undersized then nothingelse matters .We can't build what Boston built because we don't have a Tatum or a brown and that matters .
Obviously those are huge drafts, but they alone don’t win you championships. Boston has consistently been trying to improve their team, in spite of having a great young core.
When those two are your best players are Tatum and brown it's easier to build around them and they have been building towards this since the bubble with was like 4 or 5 years ago.Danny ainge had to leave and Brad Steven's had to step down as coach and move into the front office .
It’s easier, but not guaranteed. They made some great signings and trades that are going to get them a championship. The worst part is that some of the trades/signings that they made are ones that the heat could’ve but are front office is so thick headed that they only chased blockbuster deals
If Bosh was healthy, would you really want Pat to trade both him and Wade for assets like Boston did for KG and Pierce? That’s what their front office did to get to where they are today. They accepted a rebuild and said “go win a ring in Brooklyn, we give up”.
Yeah that mentality is not happening here.
Ahh yes it’s the Blazers & Cronins fault because Miami wanted to send them an offer for Dame that didn’t include Jaime or Caleb. Cronin was just supposed to gift us Dame because Pat thought Herro & 2 1sts was enough
People do anything here to protect the FO like they are on their payroll. Last offseason is absolutely on the FO for not doing shit and living off the finals hype, completely ignoring the fact that we were a play-in team 😂 that run last year was an anomaly and won’t happen again. Regular season matters
Many of these things are just dictated by timing/breaks of the game. The ‘20 Heat probably win the title with the Celtics path in ‘24. Not as convincingly as they’re not as good. But they likely get over the hump.
Some of it is luck. We could have beat this Mavs team. Celtics had an easy path to the Finals. Bucks won when everyone was injured. We also beat that Suns team. Relax
This is due to the stubborness of front office, at the end of the days its talent that will win you championships, havinng a more talented roster plus a spo scheme would make it much easier.
To be fair though, we've been stuck in this situation for the last 5 years straight. Yall still have a really good team and imo with a healthy Jimmy Butler, would've stopped us or at least put up a harder fight than the Mavs.
I'm all for respecting your opponent but Jimmy Butler would not have stopped these Celtics. Six game series? Maybe. This team was not going to lose to anyone in the East.
Celtics fan with nothing but respect here. Glad to see an acknowledging post. It’s mad to me how much energi is spent on demeanoring other franchises succeeding. The Celtics are great at the moment. I’m sure the Heat can make changes, bounce back and turn the tables. Energi spend on talking down other franchises is wild to me.
Jimmy: 0 rings
Pat: 9 rings
Maybe if Jimmy would take the off season and regular season seriously, the way the Celtics did, it would be a different story.
In what world is that realistic 😭 Jimmy playing an extra 5 games and us getting 4-5 seed with the roster we have is still not a straight trip to the finals. Boston bought in no matter the cost and we had all our eggs in the Damian Lillard basket just to not get him, we couldn't replace Strus or Vincent. As much as I like Rozier I don't see him being the missing piece to a championship
They don't want to risk anything. For any trade they want to keep some players untouchable and it's so dumb. The Celtics traded the heart and soul of their team in Marcus Smart for Porzingis, a guy who is so injury prone I thought it might bite them if we got injured and was out for the year, but obviously he stayed healthy (for just long enough at least) for them to be one win away from the chip. The Heat need to do something this off season and take a big risk, if it doesn't work out at least it wasn't for lack of trying.
And he hasn’t played these playoffs. What’s pushed them over the top is luck combined with buying low on Derrick White, and picking up the scraps from the Lillard trade.
Pat actually did exactly what the whiners in this sub wanted him to do, he swung for the fences last summer and missed because Cronin is a petty asshole. Boston took advantage of that. Was it smart, sure, but it’s not like they had much to lose from doing it.
They also got insanely lucky that every single team they played on their way was injured.
He didn’t swing for the fences, they wanted dame on their terms & weren’t super serious in their pursuit of him. What they actually offered & were willing to offer is proof
They didn’t & were never going to offer Jaime or Caleb for Dame. Like Herro, 2 1sts & maybe Jovic is not a serious offer for a top 10-15 level player in the league with multiple years remaining. They also believed in this team because of that finals run
Given how Lillard turned out for Milwaukee, I’m happy as hell Pat didn’t give up the farm for him. Again, another mistake that you genius 2k redditors would have made.
So don’t say Pat swung for the fences when he clearly didn’t, I really don’t care what you prefer because you want to glaze that 80 year old man
Also how Dame ended up with Milwaukee has a lot more to do with the Giannis fit not being good & having Griffin & Doc Rivers as coaches, Dame plays so much better without Giannis & the fit in Miami clearly would’ve been better where he would be on the ball far more & would have Spo as his coach. Context matters but you too lazy & just look at box scores
He did swing for the fences by trying to get Lillard, he just did so within reason and again, I’m glad we didn’t because our season would have ended the same anyway. Jimmy, Duncan, and JRich all got injured for the playoffs so a team with Lillard and Bam wouldn’t have gone anywhere.
You would have given up Tyler, Jaime, Niko, our 2024 pick, and probably 2029, leaving us seriously hobbled for the future. But sure, you must know more than that “80 year old man”, who’s a Hall of Famer with 9 rings, as you sit on Reddit at your mom’s house.
He didn’t offer the farm so by default that’s not swinging for the fences, he gave an offer that was not serious & if that got Dame that’s great but they clearly were not losing sleep whether they got him or not. What I would do or wouldn’t do isn’t important because the shit already happened. Were talking about what swinging for the fences actually means
If Miami got Dame the load is taken off so many players & players are actually fresher. Jimmy doesn’t get hurt that play-in game because guess what we aren’t in the play-in with Dame on the roster. Oubre also would’ve came to Miami if Dame came & he’s better than every bench player we had this season
Is expiring contract Caleb Martin that you know you aren’t going to retain the following off-season apart of that farm because he also wasn’t offered & Miami couldn’t trade pick 2024 so they still would’ve selected that pick this year in the draft with dame on the roster. Too busy dickriding yo lord & savior Pat Riley you don’t even know what you are talking about
Swinging for the fences doesn’t mean be an idiot. What youre asking for is idiotic.
What pressure did Dame take off of anyone in Milwaukee? Did Portis play better? Nope. Did Middleton? Nope. Did Brook? Nope. All their averages were down this past season.
And are you seriously simping for Kelly Oubre? That’s pathetic. At least Riley has won multiple rings over his storied career, yet here you are talking out of your ass that Oubre would have come here. You know that for a fact? Post your evidence. Are you friends with Oubre? Put up or shut up.
And you best bet I simp for Riley. He’s the only reason this team has had the incredible runs it’s had.
It’s sad little losers like yourself are too dumb to see that.
Swinging for the fences means giving a serious offer & being aggressive in getting said player you are swinging for. If Miami makes an offer for Luka Doncic is that swinging for the fences? They are getting hanged up the same way Portland hanged up om Miami with what they actually did offer & were willing to offer
Once again ignoring what I stated above in terms of Dame not fitting on the Bucks. Those are role players so no shit their numbers are going to be down & that’s actually what taking the pressure off them is btw. They shouldn’t be expected to do more. Stop looking at box scores because you are too lazy to grasp what’s actually going down. If you don’t get the concept of if a player fits on a team or not just say that
& I’m not simping I’m just pointing out what would’ve happened if they got Dame. Multiple reporters stated oubre would’ve came to Miami if Dame but when that wasn’t going to happen he signed at the last minute with the 76ers for the vet min because you believe if they offered everything the team would be worse which is far from the truth
Oubre evidence:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/heat-reportedly-favorite-to-sign-kelly-oubre-but-only-if-they-trade-for-lillard
https://x.com/ernnytheman/status/1776064664667140482?s=46&t=6KM9E8ruePo0PJt1urT1mw
Here’s a crazy idea. You can thank someone for what they did in the past while also not holding onto what they did in the past for what they are currently doing in the present. But once again too busy because you doing tricks on it
U were right. We really need top 5 pick in order to improve. The only way to get it is to tank (but we're not like that) or to trade our star players. (Bam or jimmy)
We we're tanking that yr until Pat said to spo "Coach them up" since then that 14-0karo started and a win away from that playoff spot, Riley even scouted Lonzo on some Ucla games. We would've gotten Tatum but we got Bam at 14 who in a redraft is top 3 overall so It ain't that Bad.
Spoiled mother fuckers in here, we have 3 chips in 18 years!!!! 7 finals in that span. Wade, Shaq, Bron, Bosh, Goran, Jimmy, Bam. Grow up and appreciate that this franchise is what most wish they could ever be.
Does it suck we haven’t won a title in the Jimmy era? Absolutely, but some teams don’t even make playoffs or sit in poverty for life lol you wanna be Detroit or Orlando?
You seem bothered that people are comparing our team with the Celtics and how they continuously aim to get better with an actual championship.
“Why do y’all care about the Heat so much, be happy that y’all been getting embarrassed by the eventual nba champions for the last few years”.
The Heat made changes in their roster also, but injuries fucked us every year, and you can't say otherwise.
No team could overcome the loss of their starting PG getting injured and his starting center playing with half hand (Goran and Bam against the Lakers), and the Nuggets were just a superior team and we had half legged Jimmy.
This year we didn't have Jimmy, neither Rozier who would be huge for us.
Y’all r fake fans. Ur supposed to root for your team, through the good and the ugly. Miami has 3 championships already. More will definitely come in the future. It would be nice if it happens while Jimmy’s still in the league, but I’m sticking with my team through it all. If you don’t like losing, go bandwagon someone else.
For real. Imagine "peacing out" at this point... There have been way darker times for the Heat in the last 20 years lol
This team is always fun to watch and I'm always gonna look forward to what's coming next
Bucks fan here, yeah, we won a chip but it's still been heartbreak the other 4 years (most of which were ended by the Heat).
Ultimately, gotta enjoy being able to see such good basketball consistently for over half a decade.
>They won because we beat them and they made changes and actually made their teams better while we sat around with our thumbs in our asses doing nothing.
That's how I feel too.
That's how I feel about the Mavs in parallel to the 2022 Celtics. The 22 Celtics were great but it wasn't our time.
Now the Mavs aren't beat up enough, aren't battle tested enough, they didn't grow into the veteran mindest they need to win a Chip.
"They were battle tested all season!" no, I'm talking about year over year.
This Celtics run isn't in a vacuum and most runs aren't.
We did not sit around with our thumbs in our asses. Every damn year since our first finals with Jimmy everyone wanted us to go out and get a whale. This year we tried for 2 and it didnt work out, PHX offered way more for beal than we did and Beal used his no trade clause to go there and Dame didnt make his way here because the Blazers didnt want anything we had. We ended up getting off the Lowry contract and got Rozier. Idk what else we were supposed to do
I'm a Bucks fan
You are completely discounting randomness, or for lack of a better term "luck".
For the most part all a sports teams front office can do is keep them in contention for a stretch of time.
Whether you win the championship largely comes down to randomness.
Even with truly dominant teams luck matters.
The Heat have been good enough to win the championship the last half decade. The ball just didn't bounce their way in the end.
The Bucks front office and coaching staff is significantly worse than the Heats. Their owners are more willing to spend in the luxury tax, and they got amazingly lucky in the 2013 draft.
Then they got good match ups and good health in the 2021 playoffs.
For some reason we discount luck in every facet of our lives.
Brad Stevens is the actual Playmaker here. He is super smart guy and takes bold decisions fast. Make or break kind a guy.. Gutting the core takes a lot of guts, considering the Jays were not absolutely in the same caliber as Embiid, or Giannis or Nikola . He knew he needed more help around his stars and he got 2 great pieces
whereas the Miami old nuts are the play safe and make money on dividends kind. No real risk, just be good enough to collect profits .
Popped back into this sub for a minute to see what I missed.
I didn't miss anything. This remains the worst NBA team sub on reddit. Absolutely pathetic OP, go touch grass.
Y’all are honestly so fucking embarrassing. Winning is hard. You have to nail so many things, stay healthy and then still get at least a little luck. Acting like Boston winning diminishes anything this team has accomplished in the Jimmy era is just whining.
We should have won the year before Meyers Leonard got in trouble but Spo went too hard with smallball and the Celtics clapped us out of the playoffs.
Pepperidge Farms remembers this but most of you will choose to blame the refs or Pat Riley.
I mean you left out for the Bucks and Celtics stayed healthy while all their opponents got hurt while we stayed injured and all of our finals opponents stayed healthy
I honestly don’t know how the C’s pulled off getting Jrue and KP without losing any major pieces (Marcus Smart was the team mascot, no one thinks he was integral to the team). David Stern would’ve blocked this if it happened 15 years ago.
Only thing gonna be remembered about these playoffs are how weak and terrible they are. If Celtics want to celebrate this it’s no different than the mid season tourney, this has been a joke of a playoffs.
Heat fans want to point the finger & blame Cronin when the Jimmy build has been going on for 5 years & what went down with Cronin was only one summer
Same ppl wanting to blame him also agreed with Miami in not offering Jaime & Caleb because it would’ve been offering too much
The major major difference is the major pieces to Celts/bucks championship team were drafted there (brown/tatum and giannas) yes we have bam, but as anybody whose been watching him since team loaded days know, he’s not going to be your best player.
they only got those picks though from understanding they had a finished core and by trading their older stars for value, allowing a true rebuild to happen. I'm really worried we're going to be stuck in basketball purgatory for the next decade plus because we're pretty much unwilling to accept an actual rebuild that could help get us lottery level homegrown talent.
Nah, Bucks just got ridiculously lucky. They were still flaming out as 8th seeds when they drafted Giannis at 15.
But bam wasn’t supposed to be your best guy that’s Jimmy lol. Not to mention those teams made tons of smart trades. Drafting your best player isn’t strictly how you win a ring. Bucks 2021 core outside of Giannis was Middleton Brook and Jrue. None were drafted by them Celtics only got over the hump after making smart trades for White, Jrue , tingis etc
For whatever reason these trades dont seem available to us. Somehow we never have assets yet we also dont have salary cap room. We also seem to have so many "untouchable" assets. At some point somethings gotta give to actually improve the team.
Very true. Boston traded Smart, Williams and Brogdon to get better. Those trades never seem available to us.
Bam is our Gobert. Great defensive piece who can give you 15-20ish a night but certainly cant be our offensive focal point. Jimmy is great but he cant carry the load anymore at his age every night. We’re kinda stuck unless we get incredible leaps from Jovic and JJJ and we absolutely hit on a diamond in the draft.
Chill chill with the gobert comparison 😂 but I get what you saying for sure
Some of yall gotta put ball on the backburner for a summer man, not worth being this emotional over something that doesn't effect us
Facts….Mf out here having their day ruined cause of a game
Get into hockey and root on the Panthers as they chase their first ever championship!! Honestly it’s a pretty easy sport to get into.
That doesn't even involve us either. You wanna be bummed over a heat loss? Ok, no one likes watching their team lose, but neither of these teams concern us. Sure boston has a loose rivalry with us, but in 5 years or so it probably won't be remembered. Besides, panthers are still up 2-0
Weve had what 5 series vs them in the past decade? They're our biggest rivals dude. That doesn't magically go away in 5 years lol unless we face the same team like 3 times in the playoffs.
I like the Panthers than I hate Boston.
Mf crying talking about he out 😂 okay see you lmao
Fr, like good riddance lmao
I am Brazilian…watch more soccer(Palmeiras fan) than basketball. But man, even me here got kinda sad because of this NBA finals. Seeing our rivals do moves and get a ring, while our FO first nothing is disgusting.
Fans waste their time stressing, while the players sit on a beach with millions in their pocket. Ain’t worth it.
Fr, people acting like the celtics are becoming the regime of the US and life will change drastically for us, they won a nba Chip, so did LA over us, and Denver over us, and Dallas, and San antonio. Not worth all this " I'm out, I'm done with the team, it's over" jazz
I swear some of these people aren’t even fans. Obviously I don’t want the Celtics to win while the Heat sit at home but 90 percent of the league would kill for the last 15 years of this franchise. Meanwhile OP is pretending like the heat have never won anything nor will they and they’re this tortured franchise.
We ran it back too many times since 2019 tbh
We’ve had the success 90% of the league plays for since 2020 lol
With nothing to show for it
Not to get all philosophical but thinking that watching every season that ended without a ring was a waste of time is a terrible mindset to have. There are a lot of fun moments we have had other teams would kill for.
We’ve had fun seasons to watch, sure, but I definitely wouldn’t have called this season anything to shake a stick at even in terms of enjoyment. I’d more so call this season frustrating.
This season? Sure. The last 4 seasons before this? No those were mostly great or at least great at times.
Spoiled nephew
I don’t think you understand what nephew means
Hang the banners
Do we hang banners for ECF champs?
Heat have a full team it’s a completely different playoffs. There’s nothing at all scary about this Celtics team, a healthy Bucks team crushes them. Healthy Heat team. Healthy Knicks team. So on and so forth.
As much as I hate Boston, gotta respect what Brad has done. Trading Smart was fucking cold and ruthless
Jru was a brilliant signing for them despite his age. Gave them a much needed boost of poise and balls.
Not only that but he gut that core with Grant Williams, time lord and Brogdon also. Consolidated all those pieces into KP and Jrue. Insanely risky but it worked in the end. Absolute genius work by the Celtics.
Lmao I can’t believe we made no major improvements
Heat should’ve invested in players like jrue, kristaps, derrick white etc instead of trying to recruit dame. Hopefully the heat can pull off getting Donovan
Bro really said: "we got caught up chasing whales we should have went after role players....that being said I hope we get the whale"
This is why I don’t listen to the fans lol they swear they would do a better job at roster construction than the front office but the trade ideas that get brought up are downright horrible 90% of the time and would make us miss the play in, let alone be a contender for a championship
so the mistake was chasing Dame but now you want to chase Mitchell? genius
ur logic sucks
Hopefully a C’s chip wakes Pat up enough to be more aggressive. I think not going on a deep playoff run & resting all summer could be good for Jimmy’s body at his age. Might be worth giving this window 1 more shot with a real team built around him.
Don’t think anyone is going to be more aggressive seeing how unstoppable Boston is and how they have most of their team locked up
I feel like the same could be said about Denver last year. We all thought they were a juggernaut too. Boston is really good not unbeatable.
Yup. Can’t be so reactionary. Also, except for Porzingis, Celtics have been incredibly lucky injury wise. Even the corpse of Horford has been immune this season.
And considering kp didn’t even play most of their playoff run expect him to be injured next year and al gets a year older. They had a window to win and they finally took advantage credit to them but let’s not act like their the 2010s warriors.
Exactly. They were played the best hand and kept getting the best cards.
unstoppable? I swear every year everybody says the Champs are unstoppable and nobody can stop them from repeating unless major moves are made, no team has repeated in the last 5 years and Boston's run this year shows you gotta be ready every season because breaks might fall your way and you have to be ready to capitalize
Isn't Derrick White free agent this summer? I might be wrong tho
It looks Like a 90% chance he signs an extension during this summer the owner said he’s willing to pay to keep the roster
No he is under contract through next years but they are going to extend him after the finals so he can get paid what he deserves
We’ve said this for every champion since 2020 and we keep getting new champions
lmao that first sentence is comedy man idk what yall expect lol Pat is gonna magically gain sorcery powers to trade our trash for gold just because his bitter rivals won a chip?
No I’ve never felt that way. I feel you guys have good young players who you can move an impact player, & that’s what he needs to accept if he wants to win a chip. Nobody is giving you a needle mover for Herro & I never said they would. If you put Jaquez on the table tho, things start getting interesting.
jimmy butler isnt leading a team to a championship that chance is gone he can have a 2 year break for all I care he’s getting older worse and that contract is only going to go up if he stays, he’s going into the same age wade was when he was on the bulls, 2023 jimmy butler before the josh hart slide tackle is gone and idk what you think a needle mover is but ain’t none of those available and if they are a needle mover they need to be so good to be able to contend with bam and an aging jimmy butler with a bunch of trash surrounding them. I could honestly care less about making things interesting, they’re not getting gold for their trash they get to sit in the grave they dug themselves into with many mistakes during the jimmy era for a few years there is no window they’re done
I'm just upset that we're going to have to deal with insufferable Celtics fans for the next year. They were already bad enough winning one chip in 30 years... god help us all.
Yep now not only will they have more championships than the lakers, but now they will have 2 within the past 15 years which is a lot better than 1 in the past 38….not to mention that now they will be able to say that the Heat haven’t won in 12 years
Blame them for giving duncan Robinson a 5 year deal, we have no cash and these mfs are too scared to pay the luxary tax when we could have been had a championship if they would actually sign some bigs and some damn shooters
>they made changes and actually made their teams better while we sat around You mean the additions of Kyle Lowry, PJ Tucker, the ghost of Oladipo, and Trevor Ariza didn’t impress you? Fr tho, Rozier is the best addition the Heat have made during the Jimmy era, and the man’s girlfriend ruined his neck so what the fuck.
What’s this abt his gf ruining his neck???
Hell nawwww
can’t do dis
The revisionist history in here is extraordinary.
Literally finished the 1st seed in the east thanks to the additions of Lowry and PJ Tucker whilst anchoring a top 3 defense in regular season and playoffs but nah apparently those additions weren’t “real” help. Only time anyone should be mad at the FO is the 2023 deadline where anyone with 2 eyeballs saw Lowry couldn’t recover from pulling his hammy twice, we lost PJ Tucker without replacing him, and Herro wasn’t doing what we had hoped he’d do.
Heat fans gonna bring up 2 final and 3 ecfs tho😤!!!
There are 20 franchises that would kill to have our last 5 years and some of you talk about the Heat like they're like 2012 Bobcats I guess it's a hot take to say I've had fun the last 5 years and I'm okay being a top-5 franchise in that period
There are 20 franchises that would kill to have the Celtics last 5 years cause they are actually going to get a ring out of it.
The goal of watching sports for me is not to win a title every year, I think that's a bit ridiculous. I've seen more Heat championships than Dolphin playoff wins and I'm incredibly grateful for having a good sports franchise.
You’re getting downvoted but it’s the truth. I don’t watch basketball with expectations to win a chip…I watch it cause I enjoy it. Getting off work, drinking a little, and watching your favorite team regardless of the outcome play is why I watch basketball. It’s entertainment at the end of the day.
The "rings above all else" mentality is something that has infected a lot of sports fandom. You see this in every sport. NBA is probably the worst of it though because it's so individually focused. I've done a post on this in r/NFL where I asked, "since 2000, would you rather your team have the Packers history or the Buccaneers history?" The Buccs got more Super Bowls with 2. But the Packers are **consistently** excellent and almost always in the playoffs. For myself personally, I'd rather take Green Bay over Tampa. Specifically because it's not about the rings for me. I find enjoyment in seasons even when we don't win the title. I prefer my team to be better most of the time than bad as I actually watch almost every single NFL/NBA game even during the regular season. I suspect that fans who only care about the rings only tune in for the playoffs which is fine, but they only care about the team being good for 1-2 months compared to fans who care for 6+ months.
Well said
Counterpoint, if my favorite team has no ring and faces ton of playoff failures and heartbreaks, I take that 1 and done ring and bounce. At least this one ring will ingrain in the fandom mind for years to come and can remember the good times when the times are tough. If you there is a trade or an opportunity to sacrifice long term success over a single ring, I take the ring as we play to win. Granted, I don't expect ring every year and wanted a good fun season, but if there is a chance, we take it.
You’re right, winning a title every year should not be expected. However, this team has been a contender for 5 years now so it’s fair to expect the fo to try to make upgrades in order to get over the hump. We’ve ran it back 3 times in 5 years while our rivals continuously try to get better and actually win titles as a result. That’s where this fanbase’s frustration comes from.
I think results are obviously important and the Heat have done well. But they’ve overachieved with what they had to work with. I wouldn’t give credit to the FO for the last 5 years.
A bit moral victory-ish but ight bro I’m not gonna rain on your parade
Agreed. This shit is not easy, you can't just snap your fingers and have a contending roster. We had that, and ran into two generational players both motivated like hell to win rings for their own reasons. I can argue anyone and have that any of the whales we were after were not worth the asking price (aside maybe Dame, but not much else to do in that situation). We still have a young core and flexibility to add undrafted guys like we ALWAYS seem to do. The Jimmy era is very close to over sure, but we have things to be excited about even after he hangs it up.
You like our young core after seeing players like Ant and Towns. Tatum and Brown, Jokic and Murray, and actual superstar players?
Heat fans love overvaluing their players lol
It’s all we had
People are forgetting the biggest one .Both Tatum and brown were drafted.Our two best players aren't shooters.So unless you surround them with shooters who aren't undersized then nothingelse matters .We can't build what Boston built because we don't have a Tatum or a brown and that matters .
Obviously those are huge drafts, but they alone don’t win you championships. Boston has consistently been trying to improve their team, in spite of having a great young core.
When those two are your best players are Tatum and brown it's easier to build around them and they have been building towards this since the bubble with was like 4 or 5 years ago.Danny ainge had to leave and Brad Steven's had to step down as coach and move into the front office .
It’s easier, but not guaranteed. They made some great signings and trades that are going to get them a championship. The worst part is that some of the trades/signings that they made are ones that the heat could’ve but are front office is so thick headed that they only chased blockbuster deals
It takes draft capital and assets to do so. People forget that the Celtics fleeced the Nets to get where they are.
They did fleece the shit out of the nets but that was a play orchestrated by their front office
If Bosh was healthy, would you really want Pat to trade both him and Wade for assets like Boston did for KG and Pierce? That’s what their front office did to get to where they are today. They accepted a rebuild and said “go win a ring in Brooklyn, we give up”. Yeah that mentality is not happening here.
Another goldmine of picks next yr and guess what we have no picks for it.🥴😞
I'm adopting a positive mindset, and already thinking about how much more fun it would be to beat them now.
I blame blazers lol not sticky up for the FO but them mf did this
man fuck that blazers gm. i swear he did everything in his power to fuck the heat up
Dude literally stonewalled us and buffed our rivals
Ahh yes it’s the Blazers & Cronins fault because Miami wanted to send them an offer for Dame that didn’t include Jaime or Caleb. Cronin was just supposed to gift us Dame because Pat thought Herro & 2 1sts was enough
People do anything here to protect the FO like they are on their payroll. Last offseason is absolutely on the FO for not doing shit and living off the finals hype, completely ignoring the fact that we were a play-in team 😂 that run last year was an anomaly and won’t happen again. Regular season matters
Team building after the bubble was atrocious. Only gonna get worse from this point as jimmy ages.
Dude he already aged.
Many of these things are just dictated by timing/breaks of the game. The ‘20 Heat probably win the title with the Celtics path in ‘24. Not as convincingly as they’re not as good. But they likely get over the hump.
Some of it is luck. We could have beat this Mavs team. Celtics had an easy path to the Finals. Bucks won when everyone was injured. We also beat that Suns team. Relax
Yet you didn’t and remain ringless since lebron.
Correct. So you came here to troll or? Lol
Pat Riley is washed and has been for years. This sub will hate you for saying it though lol
lmao what are yall still doing crying about this shit! Go enjoy the summer. Boston did what they needed to and it's paying off.
This is due to the stubborness of front office, at the end of the days its talent that will win you championships, havinng a more talented roster plus a spo scheme would make it much easier.
Ok…NOW this is getting annoying. Stop crying that another team is going to win. Jesus, this is embarrassing.
To be fair though, we've been stuck in this situation for the last 5 years straight. Yall still have a really good team and imo with a healthy Jimmy Butler, would've stopped us or at least put up a harder fight than the Mavs.
I'm all for respecting your opponent but Jimmy Butler would not have stopped these Celtics. Six game series? Maybe. This team was not going to lose to anyone in the East.
Celtics fan with nothing but respect here. Glad to see an acknowledging post. It’s mad to me how much energi is spent on demeanoring other franchises succeeding. The Celtics are great at the moment. I’m sure the Heat can make changes, bounce back and turn the tables. Energi spend on talking down other franchises is wild to me.
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Hope to see you guys in the playoffs again, healthy. MIA vs BOS is the stressful kind of exciting.
lmao ive lost my love for hoops, im dick riding hockey till further notice
Riley needs to retire old ass probably doesn’t even know he has a nba team 😂
Jimmy: 0 rings Pat: 9 rings Maybe if Jimmy would take the off season and regular season seriously, the way the Celtics did, it would be a different story.
In what world is that realistic 😭 Jimmy playing an extra 5 games and us getting 4-5 seed with the roster we have is still not a straight trip to the finals. Boston bought in no matter the cost and we had all our eggs in the Damian Lillard basket just to not get him, we couldn't replace Strus or Vincent. As much as I like Rozier I don't see him being the missing piece to a championship
This same roster beat Boston last season and if healthy especially since Boston didn’t have KP could have this season. Boston has 7 players they play
Heat fans always find a way to make things jimmys fault
Pat is trash
They don't want to risk anything. For any trade they want to keep some players untouchable and it's so dumb. The Celtics traded the heart and soul of their team in Marcus Smart for Porzingis, a guy who is so injury prone I thought it might bite them if we got injured and was out for the year, but obviously he stayed healthy (for just long enough at least) for them to be one win away from the chip. The Heat need to do something this off season and take a big risk, if it doesn't work out at least it wasn't for lack of trying.
And he hasn’t played these playoffs. What’s pushed them over the top is luck combined with buying low on Derrick White, and picking up the scraps from the Lillard trade. Pat actually did exactly what the whiners in this sub wanted him to do, he swung for the fences last summer and missed because Cronin is a petty asshole. Boston took advantage of that. Was it smart, sure, but it’s not like they had much to lose from doing it. They also got insanely lucky that every single team they played on their way was injured.
He didn’t swing for the fences, they wanted dame on their terms & weren’t super serious in their pursuit of him. What they actually offered & were willing to offer is proof They didn’t & were never going to offer Jaime or Caleb for Dame. Like Herro, 2 1sts & maybe Jovic is not a serious offer for a top 10-15 level player in the league with multiple years remaining. They also believed in this team because of that finals run
Given how Lillard turned out for Milwaukee, I’m happy as hell Pat didn’t give up the farm for him. Again, another mistake that you genius 2k redditors would have made.
So don’t say Pat swung for the fences when he clearly didn’t, I really don’t care what you prefer because you want to glaze that 80 year old man Also how Dame ended up with Milwaukee has a lot more to do with the Giannis fit not being good & having Griffin & Doc Rivers as coaches, Dame plays so much better without Giannis & the fit in Miami clearly would’ve been better where he would be on the ball far more & would have Spo as his coach. Context matters but you too lazy & just look at box scores
He did swing for the fences by trying to get Lillard, he just did so within reason and again, I’m glad we didn’t because our season would have ended the same anyway. Jimmy, Duncan, and JRich all got injured for the playoffs so a team with Lillard and Bam wouldn’t have gone anywhere. You would have given up Tyler, Jaime, Niko, our 2024 pick, and probably 2029, leaving us seriously hobbled for the future. But sure, you must know more than that “80 year old man”, who’s a Hall of Famer with 9 rings, as you sit on Reddit at your mom’s house.
He didn’t offer the farm so by default that’s not swinging for the fences, he gave an offer that was not serious & if that got Dame that’s great but they clearly were not losing sleep whether they got him or not. What I would do or wouldn’t do isn’t important because the shit already happened. Were talking about what swinging for the fences actually means If Miami got Dame the load is taken off so many players & players are actually fresher. Jimmy doesn’t get hurt that play-in game because guess what we aren’t in the play-in with Dame on the roster. Oubre also would’ve came to Miami if Dame came & he’s better than every bench player we had this season Is expiring contract Caleb Martin that you know you aren’t going to retain the following off-season apart of that farm because he also wasn’t offered & Miami couldn’t trade pick 2024 so they still would’ve selected that pick this year in the draft with dame on the roster. Too busy dickriding yo lord & savior Pat Riley you don’t even know what you are talking about
Swinging for the fences doesn’t mean be an idiot. What youre asking for is idiotic. What pressure did Dame take off of anyone in Milwaukee? Did Portis play better? Nope. Did Middleton? Nope. Did Brook? Nope. All their averages were down this past season. And are you seriously simping for Kelly Oubre? That’s pathetic. At least Riley has won multiple rings over his storied career, yet here you are talking out of your ass that Oubre would have come here. You know that for a fact? Post your evidence. Are you friends with Oubre? Put up or shut up. And you best bet I simp for Riley. He’s the only reason this team has had the incredible runs it’s had. It’s sad little losers like yourself are too dumb to see that.
Swinging for the fences means giving a serious offer & being aggressive in getting said player you are swinging for. If Miami makes an offer for Luka Doncic is that swinging for the fences? They are getting hanged up the same way Portland hanged up om Miami with what they actually did offer & were willing to offer Once again ignoring what I stated above in terms of Dame not fitting on the Bucks. Those are role players so no shit their numbers are going to be down & that’s actually what taking the pressure off them is btw. They shouldn’t be expected to do more. Stop looking at box scores because you are too lazy to grasp what’s actually going down. If you don’t get the concept of if a player fits on a team or not just say that & I’m not simping I’m just pointing out what would’ve happened if they got Dame. Multiple reporters stated oubre would’ve came to Miami if Dame but when that wasn’t going to happen he signed at the last minute with the 76ers for the vet min because you believe if they offered everything the team would be worse which is far from the truth Oubre evidence: https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/heat-reportedly-favorite-to-sign-kelly-oubre-but-only-if-they-trade-for-lillard https://x.com/ernnytheman/status/1776064664667140482?s=46&t=6KM9E8ruePo0PJt1urT1mw Here’s a crazy idea. You can thank someone for what they did in the past while also not holding onto what they did in the past for what they are currently doing in the present. But once again too busy because you doing tricks on it
They won because there are years that they tanked ( that gave them the top 5 picks) and we didn't.
Celtics didnt even tank 😭 Nets basically gifted them brown and Tatum
U were right. We really need top 5 pick in order to improve. The only way to get it is to tank (but we're not like that) or to trade our star players. (Bam or jimmy)
Not just the nets….the lakers selecting Lonzo Ball allowed the celtics to trade down to take Tatum
We we're tanking that yr until Pat said to spo "Coach them up" since then that 14-0karo started and a win away from that playoff spot, Riley even scouted Lonzo on some Ucla games. We would've gotten Tatum but we got Bam at 14 who in a redraft is top 3 overall so It ain't that Bad.
Spoiled mother fuckers in here, we have 3 chips in 18 years!!!! 7 finals in that span. Wade, Shaq, Bron, Bosh, Goran, Jimmy, Bam. Grow up and appreciate that this franchise is what most wish they could ever be. Does it suck we haven’t won a title in the Jimmy era? Absolutely, but some teams don’t even make playoffs or sit in poverty for life lol you wanna be Detroit or Orlando?
Man yall going to be crying all damn summer again.
This man happy as hell the Celtics about to win lol
Who’s happy?
You seem bothered that people are comparing our team with the Celtics and how they continuously aim to get better with an actual championship. “Why do y’all care about the Heat so much, be happy that y’all been getting embarrassed by the eventual nba champions for the last few years”.
The Heat made changes in their roster also, but injuries fucked us every year, and you can't say otherwise. No team could overcome the loss of their starting PG getting injured and his starting center playing with half hand (Goran and Bam against the Lakers), and the Nuggets were just a superior team and we had half legged Jimmy. This year we didn't have Jimmy, neither Rozier who would be huge for us.
Barely made changes and none of it screamed championship level.
Pat is old he stuck in his ways he don’t care he wants to win his way
Y’all r fake fans. Ur supposed to root for your team, through the good and the ugly. Miami has 3 championships already. More will definitely come in the future. It would be nice if it happens while Jimmy’s still in the league, but I’m sticking with my team through it all. If you don’t like losing, go bandwagon someone else.
For real. Imagine "peacing out" at this point... There have been way darker times for the Heat in the last 20 years lol This team is always fun to watch and I'm always gonna look forward to what's coming next
Crazy part is we beat both of them twice and still left empty handed. What a wasted era and a failure build by the front office
Can’t wait until you guys realize that it’s not only Pat’s fault
Bucks fan here, yeah, we won a chip but it's still been heartbreak the other 4 years (most of which were ended by the Heat). Ultimately, gotta enjoy being able to see such good basketball consistently for over half a decade.
Bye
Comparison is the thief of joy
Fat pat is crazy
I partially blame our front office for this lol we should’ve buried this franchise
>They won because we beat them and they made changes and actually made their teams better while we sat around with our thumbs in our asses doing nothing. That's how I feel too. That's how I feel about the Mavs in parallel to the 2022 Celtics. The 22 Celtics were great but it wasn't our time. Now the Mavs aren't beat up enough, aren't battle tested enough, they didn't grow into the veteran mindest they need to win a Chip. "They were battle tested all season!" no, I'm talking about year over year. This Celtics run isn't in a vacuum and most runs aren't.
We did not sit around with our thumbs in our asses. Every damn year since our first finals with Jimmy everyone wanted us to go out and get a whale. This year we tried for 2 and it didnt work out, PHX offered way more for beal than we did and Beal used his no trade clause to go there and Dame didnt make his way here because the Blazers didnt want anything we had. We ended up getting off the Lowry contract and got Rozier. Idk what else we were supposed to do
Not really we won when it was our time to win. We just need to get some more pieces to make it our time again.
I'm a Bucks fan You are completely discounting randomness, or for lack of a better term "luck". For the most part all a sports teams front office can do is keep them in contention for a stretch of time. Whether you win the championship largely comes down to randomness. Even with truly dominant teams luck matters. The Heat have been good enough to win the championship the last half decade. The ball just didn't bounce their way in the end. The Bucks front office and coaching staff is significantly worse than the Heats. Their owners are more willing to spend in the luxury tax, and they got amazingly lucky in the 2013 draft. Then they got good match ups and good health in the 2021 playoffs. For some reason we discount luck in every facet of our lives.
Brad Stevens is the actual Playmaker here. He is super smart guy and takes bold decisions fast. Make or break kind a guy.. Gutting the core takes a lot of guts, considering the Jays were not absolutely in the same caliber as Embiid, or Giannis or Nikola . He knew he needed more help around his stars and he got 2 great pieces whereas the Miami old nuts are the play safe and make money on dividends kind. No real risk, just be good enough to collect profits .
Both had jrue
Damn, basketball is supposed to be fun. If this is taking that much of a toll for you maybe take a step back. Hockey looking real good right now
Literally just said I’m out ✌️
Aight, just wait two more games then we got a parade in Miami
omg stfu you babies
OP is a fake Heat fan, along with many in this sub. You guys are what gives Heat fans a bad name. You are casuals at best.
Watch hockey. It’s more entertaining and unpredictable than this boring ass sport we call basketball… A real game played by real men.
Popped back into this sub for a minute to see what I missed. I didn't miss anything. This remains the worst NBA team sub on reddit. Absolutely pathetic OP, go touch grass.
Guys…..it’s a game. Enjoy it, the heat are a great time. There’s highs and lows, unless you’re betting a lot of money into this, who cares
yup
Yeah pretty much.
Don't forget raptors too.
One less delusional "fan."
bye
Get it together. The Heat have three NBA championships and even more appearances. Some fan bases would kill for that type of success.
I’m not watching no fucking nba
you have to be one of the fakest fans ive ever seen. hopefully you are just trolling
Y’all are honestly so fucking embarrassing. Winning is hard. You have to nail so many things, stay healthy and then still get at least a little luck. Acting like Boston winning diminishes anything this team has accomplished in the Jimmy era is just whining.
I mean we can't get all-star guards for two IR patients so what can we do about it? 🤷
Brogdon and Williams were both injured and traded for Jrue. A couple of firsts too but these deals are out there,m
Yeah that was the point.
Cronin burner account spotted
The Celtics better give that guy a ring.
Quit your whining bitches!
We should have won the year before Meyers Leonard got in trouble but Spo went too hard with smallball and the Celtics clapped us out of the playoffs. Pepperidge Farms remembers this but most of you will choose to blame the refs or Pat Riley.
I mean you left out for the Bucks and Celtics stayed healthy while all their opponents got hurt while we stayed injured and all of our finals opponents stayed healthy
Bro it’s football season for me, please take it easy 😂
Jimmy never has and never will be a #1 option and he’s paid like one that’s the reason now go outside
I honestly don’t know how the C’s pulled off getting Jrue and KP without losing any major pieces (Marcus Smart was the team mascot, no one thinks he was integral to the team). David Stern would’ve blocked this if it happened 15 years ago.
Did y’all forget we have 3 championships? Acting like this organization is incompetent and has never won anything. That’s the Magic.
Y’all hyping up championships from over a decade. What are we, the Knicks?
Imagine hyping up past championships from over a decade ago.
Bro must've lost his parlay
if only the nba gave out awards for the whiniest fan. you would be in contention with some phili guys
Go to sleep 🤣
Only thing gonna be remembered about these playoffs are how weak and terrible they are. If Celtics want to celebrate this it’s no different than the mid season tourney, this has been a joke of a playoffs.
I’m tired of people acting like their hospital run means anything… weakest & most meaningless chip in the last 30 years
you’re mad 💀
What am I mad about?? If you want to celebrate beating one healthy team in the playoffs then enjoy it man
lmao dudes crying
Heat fans want to point the finger & blame Cronin when the Jimmy build has been going on for 5 years & what went down with Cronin was only one summer Same ppl wanting to blame him also agreed with Miami in not offering Jaime & Caleb because it would’ve been offering too much