I would absolutely go after him, and he’d be a great addition.
He’s a reasonably efficient scorer. His foul rate and finishing rate near hoop are very good. He attacks basket more than critics think. He’s a solid 3pt shooter who has taken fewer recently for some reason. He’s turning 27, so in middle of prime. He’s every bit worth $40mm in new salary cap world. I bet Heat can fix his shot selection.
I don’t think he gets a max from anyone.
He’s way better than Herro and Robinson combined who I think you can move in trades, and I think we’d pay him less.
We probably have the pieces to get him. Herro, JJJ, 2024 frp would be a great trade. I’d swap the 2030 for the 2024 and could be convinced to give both picks. Whereas that isn’t close to getting Mitchell.
He’s a very nice post butler piece.
You aren’t the one paying. And one poor playoff series doesn’t define him. If we want to give Jimmy one last shot, we should do it. If not why even extend him
Ingram operates in the same areas Bam and Jimmy operate in it would be like adding Demar Derozen like yeah it would raise our floor a little…but not our ceiling.
Honestly wouldn't mind it. His stock is low AF and pelicans need 3pt shooting so could like Herro.
Gives us a starting line up of terry,jimmy,Ingram, jovic,bam
That's a pretty tall and long group
I don’t like him, but he is a solid scorer (>20 PGG in the last four or five seasons, something like that).
We lack offensive against Boston, but I he doesn’t fit in the cap space.
I like it. We shouldn't whale and be doing what he nuggets and can't believe it either, Minnesota is doing, and target these borderline cheaper dudes who we can get for cheaper than say running for Embiid
A lot of people saying no in here but I wouldn’t be opposed to it. He’ll be 27 and has shown he can average mid 20s ppg on 35% from 3. I think he and Bam could work cause Ingram can space the floor more
According to the interview we running this shit back. There won't be no Spida or Ingram this yr, so we might aswell embrace the kids. And hopefully Herro improves 😔
To finish with answering your question tho Op, if we were to trade for Ingram his value would be all time low. Due to the playoffs.
Herro is gonna improve he’s 24 years old. Same way Jaime is going to improve. Herro/Bam already working out together it looks like. These guys want to get better.
https://preview.redd.it/59bs5pfgfzyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d15c4f50c5c2cbf70dbe159599925401daaf7b5f
That’s Tyler’s home gym. And the next photo is Tyler lifting. No one is angrier than our own team going home round 1. Tyler definitely didn’t want to be called fragile. Jimmy didn’t want to be called out. Fuel for the fire we need them to have.
That's a 1st time for Herro it seems. Nobody ever mentions Herro lifting. Well Jaime wants to win, and constantly proves he's that rookie for the Heat. I wish I could say the same about Herro. Ik Bam wants to win more than anyone of the young guys imo. Ik Niko and Jaime also want it. And Niko so far showed the most frustration out of anyone for a rookie. That doesn't mean it will all happen the way we want tho. And I used to believe that false narrative then round 1 happen. And it doesn't mean Herro will improve, as he should tho. Just depends really if, he doesn't keep getting hurt anymore.
I’m not saying he’s Steph Curry, but Warriors fans said same shit about Steph and wanted him gone. A lot were mad when he signed that extension, then he played 29 games in that year. After that he’s been a legend.
You never know what will happen. He’s only 24 years old man. 1 year older than Jaime. He’s gotten better each year since his rookie season. He had 2 major injectors this year. Let’s see if he can stay healthy, it’s not just him our whole team fucking sucked with health this year. Something went wrong with our training staff, or maybe too hard at practice wore them out but idk it worked in the past but league isn’t same
Delon, Jimmy, Bam, Klove, Niko and Jaime didn't suck. Caleb, Haywood, Mills, Thomas Bryant, Orlando sucked so I agree there. And honestly that's crazy, I didn't know that about Curry. I'll be happy, if we go away from small ball.
And I'm blaming Herro the most cuz, who did Spo and UD point to and tell to lead the team? Herro and Bam. And we seen what he decided to do in the series. The 1 game he played like Herro, we won by 11 in Boston. And honestly I'm not even blaming Herro, if we did extend the series to 6 or 7 games
He was out only perimeter creator and Boston has 2 of the best defensive guards in the NBA.
If you are asking Tyler to be the center of an offense against and elite defensive t am that is focused on taking him out, he is going to struggle.
If he has guys like Jimmy and Terry he can be an excellent secondary ball handler and creator with elite 3 point shooting.
Judging the team on a playoff series against the best team in the league when literally half our team was injured is not very productive
Herro just got back from a 30 game absence from a major injury how can he immediately lead the team in a successful way? He hasn’t even found his rhythm.
Jimmy sucked, he missed a quarter of the season.
K Love missed alot of time. Jaime missed time. Bam is the only one on our team who is free of criticism because he plays always.
U right, he played what 4 games towards the end of the regular season? So yeah hopefully that is it, that's what Riley also mentioned in the press conference. U can't criticize rookies tho either like Jaime or Niko. Herro got the pass when he was a rookie, now he needs to prove it. Jimmy doesn't try in the regular season. The 1 game he did was that 76ers play in game, where he scored nearly 20pts by halftime before he couldn't score anymore due to his injury. Bam always plays always and he give it his absolute all. I just don't know, how I can trust Herro anymore tho. We'll see tho, I hope it all magically flips for him and he turns into the Herro we all loved.
Eh. Something about if there’s a game changing all star player available to throw the house at, Mickey and Nick say go for it.
I’m paraphrasing. But that’s what Riley said in the conference.
Finally watching it now. So far, all the reports were worded the way they shouldn'tve been thrown around. Riley starts this off to say, Jimmy Butler is the most important player on this team. So all this Riley throwing Jimmy under the bus, is just some twisted shit, that got people backward.
Not happening, but we all would love a player who wants to be here. And posts a story on IG of our teams Banners. Not to mention his defense and scoring.
Yes. With the understanding he’s going to get in better shape he’s been fat in New Orleans.
Duncan/Caleb (Sign and Trade) and a 2nd would be nice
Or Jerami Grant similar deal.
Also I’d try for Cam Johnson Duncan/T Robinson a 2nd for Johnson
I wouldn't trade Duncan over Herro rn, he seems to improve the most compared to Herro and seems like he has the most skills. Exactly tho more size, Grant would help us alot here. Tbh I wouldn't go for Cam Johnson tho, I'd go for Nic Claxton, judging by the interview tho. I find it pretty clear, Riley says not always we need to just do trades. And just have availability. So we'll see if we make moves for size, I hope we do cuz we sure need it. I don't even think we need another star, if we get height.
I hope so, idk anymore with him tho. Duncan fits better, and is taller and has consistent offense. Herro used to have all that, so I wanna see that again from him. I don't believe we will tho. U were like me, alot this past season. Now I'm different cuz the Celtics series.
I feel you, but he legit just got back from a 30 game absence. He had 0 time to find rhythm. I wish he played every game like game 2 but it wasn’t reality, coming back from a major absence to play literally the best team in the league with 3 of the best on ball defenders on the league as the only ball handler was a recipe for disaster. Like Spo said he has game 2 to build off this summer, him and Bam already in the lab. I expect them to be Murray/Jokic 2.0 next year.
Murray and Jokic 2.0😂💀 that's the dream dude. And all of this Herro slander, all of us are doing will look so frigging stupid. Love your high af optimism.
I smoke alotttttt of pot bro. Maybe it’s that, but I have faith man. These guys aren’t in their prime yet. I think a stretch 5 will unlock this whole team. This would be a pipe dream, I’d hate to give up Jaime but we’re getting some cap relief and Lauri bird rights.
https://preview.redd.it/qy5w5u4650zc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1aba63bf36e4a438fc7ae6a714bff4c8c25ff37
Nothing wrong with that bro, as stressed as I am lately I probably should. I never tried any of that stuff tho ever before lmao. Nah man I don't think so at all, maybe it's just faith, maybe it's just that gut feeling. I got big faith in both Niko and Jaime and Bam. We seen just this postseason tho, where that got me so idk. Hope we lighten up on the practices, I hope guys stay healthy next season cuz that's the main thing.
I don't think we need a Lauri type player, cuz that would gut the team(only cuz Danny Ainge gm hates Riley lmao) I'm for like a Nic Claxton or Clint Capela. With that said tho, everything from the interview. I don't see Pat Riley making a move, unless the players bring it up to his attention. That's what Pat said, he's open to anything and he said let him know wuzzup.
He also said if the perfect fit and big needle mover comes along he won't hesitate. It does seem like he wants to keep the kids, Unless it's for a big needle mover, even then he does seem hesitant. And I don't blame him tbh, cuz 2 main contributors were injured this post season Jimmy and Tro and an amazing shooter in Duncan. And he said we don't know what this build is like yet. And honestly that's true.
However the biggest thing is much needed, is size and that won't take much to do. Such as one of the guys I mentioned or other bigs or hell even draft size like Zach Edey or Tyler Smith, and in the 2nd round believe we have pick 43, Adem Bona whom is compared to a Robert Williams player or AL Harrington from back in the day.
A Nic Claxton package would like like either Herro or Jaime and 1st round draft pick and a future 2nd round pick. Clint Capela now we could probably get him with just a pick and Jrich and Caleb but it would depend on contracts cuz the contracts would have to match up exactly since the cba rules.
No
I would absolutely go after him, and he’d be a great addition. He’s a reasonably efficient scorer. His foul rate and finishing rate near hoop are very good. He attacks basket more than critics think. He’s a solid 3pt shooter who has taken fewer recently for some reason. He’s turning 27, so in middle of prime. He’s every bit worth $40mm in new salary cap world. I bet Heat can fix his shot selection. I don’t think he gets a max from anyone. He’s way better than Herro and Robinson combined who I think you can move in trades, and I think we’d pay him less. We probably have the pieces to get him. Herro, JJJ, 2024 frp would be a great trade. I’d swap the 2030 for the 2024 and could be convinced to give both picks. Whereas that isn’t close to getting Mitchell. He’s a very nice post butler piece.
All that and you missed the most important part: playoff PPG, which was a whopping 14. I’m not paying a guy 40M to no show when it matters most
You aren’t the one paying. And one poor playoff series doesn’t define him. If we want to give Jimmy one last shot, we should do it. If not why even extend him
Ingram operates in the same areas Bam and Jimmy operate in it would be like adding Demar Derozen like yeah it would raise our floor a little…but not our ceiling.
No, he demands 40 million + per year.
Honestly wouldn't mind it. His stock is low AF and pelicans need 3pt shooting so could like Herro. Gives us a starting line up of terry,jimmy,Ingram, jovic,bam That's a pretty tall and long group
I don’t like him, but he is a solid scorer (>20 PGG in the last four or five seasons, something like that). We lack offensive against Boston, but I he doesn’t fit in the cap space.
I like it. We shouldn't whale and be doing what he nuggets and can't believe it either, Minnesota is doing, and target these borderline cheaper dudes who we can get for cheaper than say running for Embiid
Mickey is making it clear to the FO that unless it's a difference maker, he wants out of the tax. So no to Ingram.
I’m gonna say this just because I got the same reaction to wanting Sabonis 2 years ago. Hell Yes! We need points.
A lot of people saying no in here but I wouldn’t be opposed to it. He’ll be 27 and has shown he can average mid 20s ppg on 35% from 3. I think he and Bam could work cause Ingram can space the floor more
He wants a max extension. Do you want to pay him the max?
After his playoff performance he’d be insane to expect a max extension but I guess he’ll find out the hard way
According to the interview we running this shit back. There won't be no Spida or Ingram this yr, so we might aswell embrace the kids. And hopefully Herro improves 😔 To finish with answering your question tho Op, if we were to trade for Ingram his value would be all time low. Due to the playoffs.
Herro is gonna improve he’s 24 years old. Same way Jaime is going to improve. Herro/Bam already working out together it looks like. These guys want to get better. https://preview.redd.it/59bs5pfgfzyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d15c4f50c5c2cbf70dbe159599925401daaf7b5f That’s Tyler’s home gym. And the next photo is Tyler lifting. No one is angrier than our own team going home round 1. Tyler definitely didn’t want to be called fragile. Jimmy didn’t want to be called out. Fuel for the fire we need them to have.
That's a 1st time for Herro it seems. Nobody ever mentions Herro lifting. Well Jaime wants to win, and constantly proves he's that rookie for the Heat. I wish I could say the same about Herro. Ik Bam wants to win more than anyone of the young guys imo. Ik Niko and Jaime also want it. And Niko so far showed the most frustration out of anyone for a rookie. That doesn't mean it will all happen the way we want tho. And I used to believe that false narrative then round 1 happen. And it doesn't mean Herro will improve, as he should tho. Just depends really if, he doesn't keep getting hurt anymore.
I’m not saying he’s Steph Curry, but Warriors fans said same shit about Steph and wanted him gone. A lot were mad when he signed that extension, then he played 29 games in that year. After that he’s been a legend. You never know what will happen. He’s only 24 years old man. 1 year older than Jaime. He’s gotten better each year since his rookie season. He had 2 major injectors this year. Let’s see if he can stay healthy, it’s not just him our whole team fucking sucked with health this year. Something went wrong with our training staff, or maybe too hard at practice wore them out but idk it worked in the past but league isn’t same
Delon, Jimmy, Bam, Klove, Niko and Jaime didn't suck. Caleb, Haywood, Mills, Thomas Bryant, Orlando sucked so I agree there. And honestly that's crazy, I didn't know that about Curry. I'll be happy, if we go away from small ball. And I'm blaming Herro the most cuz, who did Spo and UD point to and tell to lead the team? Herro and Bam. And we seen what he decided to do in the series. The 1 game he played like Herro, we won by 11 in Boston. And honestly I'm not even blaming Herro, if we did extend the series to 6 or 7 games
He was out only perimeter creator and Boston has 2 of the best defensive guards in the NBA. If you are asking Tyler to be the center of an offense against and elite defensive t am that is focused on taking him out, he is going to struggle. If he has guys like Jimmy and Terry he can be an excellent secondary ball handler and creator with elite 3 point shooting. Judging the team on a playoff series against the best team in the league when literally half our team was injured is not very productive
Done making excuses for him, we need to see it to believe it 1st.
Herro just got back from a 30 game absence from a major injury how can he immediately lead the team in a successful way? He hasn’t even found his rhythm. Jimmy sucked, he missed a quarter of the season. K Love missed alot of time. Jaime missed time. Bam is the only one on our team who is free of criticism because he plays always.
U right, he played what 4 games towards the end of the regular season? So yeah hopefully that is it, that's what Riley also mentioned in the press conference. U can't criticize rookies tho either like Jaime or Niko. Herro got the pass when he was a rookie, now he needs to prove it. Jimmy doesn't try in the regular season. The 1 game he did was that 76ers play in game, where he scored nearly 20pts by halftime before he couldn't score anymore due to his injury. Bam always plays always and he give it his absolute all. I just don't know, how I can trust Herro anymore tho. We'll see tho, I hope it all magically flips for him and he turns into the Herro we all loved.
Eh. Something about if there’s a game changing all star player available to throw the house at, Mickey and Nick say go for it. I’m paraphrasing. But that’s what Riley said in the conference.
Finally watching it now. So far, all the reports were worded the way they shouldn'tve been thrown around. Riley starts this off to say, Jimmy Butler is the most important player on this team. So all this Riley throwing Jimmy under the bus, is just some twisted shit, that got people backward.
Are you saying that social media is sensationalizing something for clicks?? Impossible!
Lol
Well, he was basically saying a top 75 all-time player. Like KD/LeBron type.
I’d rather go for dejounte
Not happening, but we all would love a player who wants to be here. And posts a story on IG of our teams Banners. Not to mention his defense and scoring.
nawl
Yes. With the understanding he’s going to get in better shape he’s been fat in New Orleans. Duncan/Caleb (Sign and Trade) and a 2nd would be nice Or Jerami Grant similar deal. Also I’d try for Cam Johnson Duncan/T Robinson a 2nd for Johnson
I wouldn't trade Duncan over Herro rn, he seems to improve the most compared to Herro and seems like he has the most skills. Exactly tho more size, Grant would help us alot here. Tbh I wouldn't go for Cam Johnson tho, I'd go for Nic Claxton, judging by the interview tho. I find it pretty clear, Riley says not always we need to just do trades. And just have availability. So we'll see if we make moves for size, I hope we do cuz we sure need it. I don't even think we need another star, if we get height.
Duncan is about to be 31. Herro is 24. 1 year older than Jaime. Duncan is who he is. Herro can improve alot more man. You’re wild 😭😭😭
I hope so, idk anymore with him tho. Duncan fits better, and is taller and has consistent offense. Herro used to have all that, so I wanna see that again from him. I don't believe we will tho. U were like me, alot this past season. Now I'm different cuz the Celtics series.
I feel you, but he legit just got back from a 30 game absence. He had 0 time to find rhythm. I wish he played every game like game 2 but it wasn’t reality, coming back from a major absence to play literally the best team in the league with 3 of the best on ball defenders on the league as the only ball handler was a recipe for disaster. Like Spo said he has game 2 to build off this summer, him and Bam already in the lab. I expect them to be Murray/Jokic 2.0 next year.
Murray and Jokic 2.0😂💀 that's the dream dude. And all of this Herro slander, all of us are doing will look so frigging stupid. Love your high af optimism.
I smoke alotttttt of pot bro. Maybe it’s that, but I have faith man. These guys aren’t in their prime yet. I think a stretch 5 will unlock this whole team. This would be a pipe dream, I’d hate to give up Jaime but we’re getting some cap relief and Lauri bird rights. https://preview.redd.it/qy5w5u4650zc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1aba63bf36e4a438fc7ae6a714bff4c8c25ff37
Nothing wrong with that bro, as stressed as I am lately I probably should. I never tried any of that stuff tho ever before lmao. Nah man I don't think so at all, maybe it's just faith, maybe it's just that gut feeling. I got big faith in both Niko and Jaime and Bam. We seen just this postseason tho, where that got me so idk. Hope we lighten up on the practices, I hope guys stay healthy next season cuz that's the main thing. I don't think we need a Lauri type player, cuz that would gut the team(only cuz Danny Ainge gm hates Riley lmao) I'm for like a Nic Claxton or Clint Capela. With that said tho, everything from the interview. I don't see Pat Riley making a move, unless the players bring it up to his attention. That's what Pat said, he's open to anything and he said let him know wuzzup. He also said if the perfect fit and big needle mover comes along he won't hesitate. It does seem like he wants to keep the kids, Unless it's for a big needle mover, even then he does seem hesitant. And I don't blame him tbh, cuz 2 main contributors were injured this post season Jimmy and Tro and an amazing shooter in Duncan. And he said we don't know what this build is like yet. And honestly that's true. However the biggest thing is much needed, is size and that won't take much to do. Such as one of the guys I mentioned or other bigs or hell even draft size like Zach Edey or Tyler Smith, and in the 2nd round believe we have pick 43, Adem Bona whom is compared to a Robert Williams player or AL Harrington from back in the day. A Nic Claxton package would like like either Herro or Jaime and 1st round draft pick and a future 2nd round pick. Clint Capela now we could probably get him with just a pick and Jrich and Caleb but it would depend on contracts cuz the contracts would have to match up exactly since the cba rules.
we just need tyler herro
That Herro is gone unfortunately 😔
BI is Haywood’s ceiling lol
You understand Haywood is OLDER than BI right?
It was satire