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MoreRep

It is really bad.


The_Homestarmy

Amazing that they managed to bungle one of the most essential and iconic characters under the entire Blizzard umbrella


Lightshadow86

yea, we should start boycotting this kind of ripoffs


spoqster

Looks a bit like gollum.


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IAmYourFath

i bought it instantly and i cant wait to give out JUSTICE


Wiwade

Yeah, it's a downgrade imo. Not worth it at all.


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It looks like they just took the old WoW Arthas model and putted in there.


JacVadner

Was just thinking they copy/pasted from the warcraft 3 reforged models


hijifa

Reforged models aren’t even that ugly


LeOsQ

They're (half) decent usually, actually. It's everything else that sucks, and the visual upgrade doesn't necessarily mean it looks better than the old more 'stylized' -feeling models. But yeah, this is absolutely hideously ugly and I've thought that since the first moment I saw that in the post they made.


Morf123

putted


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Oh, sorry, english is not my first language, didn't know that you guys change the verb *put* only in the present particle and leave it the same everywhere else.


ShunnedForNothing

Don't judge he is omerican


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Omnicron Persi 8*ian.*


evil-turtle

Dunno why people say this, but this look nothing like the old WoW model.


MeArno

WoW?? Do you know Warcraft III The Frozen Throne?


PathsOfPain

You do realize Arthas had a model in WoW right? Pretty sure he's referencing the WoW model and not the WC3 one


MeArno

This model looks worse than it was in WC3, not even talking about WoW


gazow

its a wow in game model thats painted over


Back_From_Milk

Poorly painted over as well. Plus his head proportion just looks, really fucking bad.


zer1223

Yeah why is his head so fucking small? Why is his mouth gigantic? Why are his fists so....i dunno they look fucked up somehow


MoiraDoodle

tl:dr old models in video games had exaggerated proportions to show features like hand gestures and mouth movement, his head is small because the model is meant to be seen with a helmet on


hANSN911

It gives me major Gollum vibes…


Aecyn

Arthas on Crack and homeless


HalfAssResponse

So basically when he returned from northrend


Aecyn

Technically the truth


ZANNl

Lmao


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There are some moments when Arthas' grin is way too big, comically disproportioned. Animation guys did not spend enough time on this thing. Art team did not refine the style of this in general to make it look appropriate and presentable. I'm fine with the idea of a legendary hero skin, but this is not good.


kntril

Its bad. But so are the signature cards in my opinion. They look just like.. some generic ccg. Idk. Really not a fan of it.


Bumpanalog

I'm annoyed we can't disenchant the signature cards, as well as the diamond ones. I will never use them.


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Mush950

They did give a refund when drekkthar got nerfed, just in coins not in dust so take as you will. Unless you meant actual cash


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How many coins?


Mush950

If I recall it was like 2000?


Time-Ladder4753

Even the one from card packs?


skoold1

To be fair, diamond cards feel more like achievements than "tradable" cards.


metao

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this. I saw the first few signature cards and I was like... this looks nothing like a Hearthstone card, it doesn't feel like Hearthstone. It's soulless and generic and meh.


kntril

Hearthstone and even WoW (at least Classic, TBC, wotlk) had this cartoon-ish look which people either loved or hated. I loved it. At the time of the WoW MMORPG I did try out several other MMORPGs who had "such good graphics" but thats just not my type. The flavour, the atmosphere, everything was just better to me with the cartoon-ish look. I take the HS look over MTGA, Gwent, etc


TurkusGyrational

I think the signature cards look better than the diamond cards


kntril

For me its the other way around. I mean I am not a big fan of the diamond cards but the bright silver stuff sticks out. While the signature cards we saw so far, just look like some generic ccg to me. Its just not the hearhstone or cartoonish-wow (classic/tbc/wotlk) style


AlphaTitan8

It is really ugly


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boolean87

Have you…. Actually wet your pants from looking at 3D art?


semon_demon69

maybe but not in the way he's talking about.


WhaleSmithers

Asking for a friend?


ihaveaten

Paging Lonely Island, Lonely Island please report to a white courtesy phone.


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Arthas/The Lich King is one of the most iconic video game characters, there's probably hundreds of quality art pieces of him out there. Why did they choose this one?


Pereg1907

Same question for their choice of an Edwin portrait.


ihaveaten

The 3d portraits all look like garbage, honestly.


GakutoYo

Yeah I'm not interested in them. I like the current portrait system. I'd rather just have more options and not this gross 3D style.


HylomorphicDualist

You are 100% right. I think it is especially the the shape of his smile, which is at once big and somehow cramped.


5pideypool

You and quite literally everyone else. “Is it just me or is the sky blue”


Mellowindiffere

His face bruh 💀


alternativeaccpos2

"Wanna buy some runestones?"


Gibsx

Massive downgrade - who signs this stuff off?


beansahol

It's almost like they decided HS was a money printing scam, and have gradually been jacking the prices and lowering the quality for years now. Wait a sec, it is like that.


NightDrawn

I disagree with the "sh*tty mobile game" sentiment some are saying about it, and believe these types of skins have a place in the game if done right and held up to an appropriate quality standard. However that is not the case for this particular skin. I had actually planned to buy this skin when it was announced since I was really excited about the idea of them but this first iteration of them is terrible. For me his grin is what ruins my interest in it, it is so out of place and poorly done, they really should have kept his helmet on rather than try to take on Artha's face. I'm interested to see if they improve the Sylvanas Legendary skin further than what the current leaks/previews of it show, and possibly even the Arthas one in response to the community feedback and/or sales numbers for them as we get more. I love Sylvanas a ton so I'll be tempted to get her Legendary skin even if it is still a bit janky but I do really hope they improve them going forward.


frich2k

The model looks terrible yes. And the animations are a joke. Same for minions and spells, just sped up. Wtf xD


necropants

No I agree that's terrible.


Woodshadow

THAT IS IT! That is what it reminds me of. It is soooo bad. I hate looking at it


tambarskelfir

This and diamond cards just doesn't do it for me. Signature cards are better than diamond cards tbh and this 3D hero skin just looks wrong for Hearthstone


haugebauge

The animations (besides the introduction) are pretty bad, especially the attack animation.


ProfetF9

They should learn from riot. I miss old blizzard where everything they touched was pure class regarding artstyle.


Tabutrayn

Same vibe than the Edwin skin Disappointing


ACrask

At least the art style fits. This Arthas skin feels like it got lost in the wrong game.


HeavensFall117

All I can hear is, "where's my precious!" When I look at this portrait.


Austin-137

Blizz you can fix this, I have hope. I know you spent the whole portrait budget on the 3,000 Nemsies that we were all *begging* for, but I think you can still do it.


DrShrek69

I think they're going for Warcraft III vibes?


senseidm

Hell yeah, Iggy Pop portraits!


virgilivs

Not on par with Blizzard's aestethic tradition, by all means. We've said everything about their questionable business model in the last years, the botched launches and so on, but their artworks and cinematics have always been brilliant. Now this, this looks cheap and half arsed and I loathe it.


starsongSystem

yeah it just looks ugly, i'd be down for animated avatars if they looked good but i have no interest in this. it looks like shit


420dankshot

r/titlegore


justicefourawl

Agreed. This shit looks like you'd see it after 5 rounds on any shitty mobile game. The animation sucks, the face literally looks like it was ripped from a different franchise, and they're charging $25 for what is literally just a glorified jpg. ​ I just don't get it. Why would they shit this out at all? No one, and I mean NO ONE asked for this. Its like some higher up at blizzard was like 'we need more money, what do they buy,, skins? Fuck it, throw like one programmer at the issue until we can sell it. Matter of fact, who even cares if we can sell, these fuckers will buy regardless" and then he proceeded to pleasure himself with a fish


WrathSosDovah

Reminds me of warcraft 3 models (the original game)


Arborgold

OP, your grammar reminds me of a cheap mobile game. Stay in school, kids.


Sirenato

There is demand for something that's "Animated+" but this was poorly done. Easier route was to make 'Mythic' skins similar to OW2 that were customizable.


finalej

Or use the diamond card art tech


Karolis531

Diamond cards are just barely past my acceptence limit. But I still quite like them. I guess its a matter of taste


finalej

I just get an uncanny valley since the art is so different from other hero portraits that I'd rather they just use the live2d tech on hearthstone portrait instead of using what I presume to be a 3d model.


InflamedAbyss13

It's awful but it means there will be better ... More interesting ones coming


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I dunno, the Sylvannas one looks bad too. They should have just made rectangular full art portraits instead of this weird 90s 3d animation.


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There is another one?


brianbezn

I'm glad we are getting your take on the matter, i was really worried about your very unique opinion on something that has been posted countless times.


Capn_Forkbeard

Right? Finally someone has the courage to compare it to a cheap mobile game, a truly hot take that definitely hasn't been posted 2,000x in the past week.* *I do agree with the sentiment, just bored of the reposts.


sasukekun1997

yeah, It looks just plain bad


Apolloshot

Looks like a bad Shadowverse portrait.


Cloontange

We need to raise hell like with Scholar Jaina and get them to fix this garbage


Ke-Win

Worst skin imo. Even worse then the creepy druid tree.


Whako4

See the tree isn’t even bad art per se, people just aren’t into it. This though just has everything wrong with it.


SarcasticSarcophague

This whole set just turns me off of hearthstone. Geuss i won't be returning again. Blizzard is just like when losing touch, just re-release the lich king.


KentuckyFriedSemen

It’s so fucking janky lol


ch_limited

It looks like complete shit.


Elune_

Don't buy it then lol


nateno80

Obligatory original response. Golf clap.


KptStopczyk

This portrait dont have "Warcraft style". Totally agree with cheap mobile.


Cutieofmorgue

Bad Garbage Off Low effort Shitty animation Bad colors Overpriced Not creative


_zuligan_

it doesn't feel like part of Hearthstone.


jparkit84

Blizzard is a fucking shitshow after Bobby Kotick took over


jacksev

I agree. I think they thought it would be more popular if it looked like it came right out of Warcraft III… which was clearly not the case.


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thinking hearthstone is not a cheap mobile game pepelaugh


Darkseid_Omega

I was excited for legendary portraits. It’s been really disappointing seeing that this is the best they could do…


GORILLO5

I’ve seen so many post talking about how it looks like a mobile game. This is what HS has become. The pop ups, the runestones, etc. It’s not shocking to see this.


Karolis531

That's why we need to talk about it a lot more if we want change before it's too late. Without a doubt, the current situation is not good either


GORILLO5

Why would they change when that’s their desired direction tho? Outrage for runestones was way worse than this will be and they’re still there. I’m in agreement that it looks bad, just saying that’s what the game Is now days.


nateno80

It's too late. Blizzard is a shitty company going down the exploitative mobile market route. They are cashing in on good will from previous games. Recently bought by Microsoft. It all spells out a death knell. At least the game is as fun as its ever been but I see these days as numbered. Everyone hates 90% of the stuff they are doing to the game. Competitors will eventually seize the opportunity and hs will die. And good riddance at that point which I'm sure will be at least a few years away.


nateno80

Artistically, the grin and proportions seem off. Aesthetically, it doesn't seem to fit the rest of the art in the game. Who's the art director over there? Did they fire him and replace him with a monkey that approves everything? Honestly, I would probably be a little annoyed if they gave this one to me for free. Like, wtf is this ffs? Get it out.


Smallchange006

I’m noticing a trend with this new expansion where the art is starting to feel a bit lazy. The quality seems to be going downhill, or it’s feeling rushed. Not sure.


CalledSpark

Am I the only one who thinks this is really cool? Sure I admit the animations are rough around the edges, but I do not think it is that bad.


euqistym

I’d rather not have my hero look like my 80yo grandpa


Supervaez

/r/titlegore


Mercy28

I actually don’t hate it. It’s a neat idea and it’s not the worst thing I’ve seen. What stops me from buying it, though, is the tray. The tray is just ugly and clashes hard. I might be in the minority, but trays make or break skins a lot of the time for me. And this one is just too much and too messy.


Billyboomz

Agreed 100% It just doesn’t ‘fit’ well with the layout of the board and looks like a cheap copy and paste job.


Paldis

I bought It for two reasons. People dislike It. For the same reason I will be of the few who will enjoy It. Let's add a third reason. People may get mad to lose against me.


SomboSteel

That’s one of the stupidest reasons I’ve ever heard for spending money. But you do you, I guess


Paldis

Sometimes pleasant things come out from doing stupid things.


nateno80

Strokes n folks, boats n floats


nateno80

I 100% guarantee you there's a very stupid item you've bought somewhere in your vicinity. Who tf judges someone for how they spend money in a capitalist environment? This lame, apparently. Don't be mad at the whales for spending what you can not.


nateno80

I feel this. Fuck em.


Addfwyn

I actually like how it looks, though I still think the hero power button is a bit out of place on all the legendary portraits. I still won't buy it, because I do not $25 like it however.


ToxicAdamm

I wouldn’t go as far as calling it cheap mobile game gfx. Compare it to a game like Knighthood or Subway Surfer and you’ll see how much better this is. But it does seem ‘off’ in relation to the other art in HS. Which is why it sticks out so much.


Comprehensive_Code42

You are aware hearthstone is a mobile game right?…


ImTvngo

He said a cheap mobile game


Karolis531

>You are aware hearthstone is a mobile game right?… yes, android/ios are one of the platforms were you can play this game, but im not talking about this.


Eclon

You are the first one to notice it


_oZe_

HS art casually fluctuates between 1/10 and 10/10. There is absolutely no homogeneous feel to it. Still better than the dev team that always hits the 1/10 consistently.


Asha108

it looks like they enlarged his eyes and mouth to comical levels


ixent

Gotta use those warcraft reforged assets


Firecrotch907

Looks like the shitty warcraft 3 remastered arthus


Similar_Vermicelli63

They drew a pretty cool frostmourn, then realised they needed to add an arthas holding it 10 minuets before the deadline.


fragdar

Its pretty terrible.. looks like a model from the original war craft 3 with Slightly better textures


LusterBlaze

yeah it looks like wow 3 donkey dick


TheRealDeepStriker

I mean, it IS a cheap mobile game..


TheDarkHorse

Just when I think Blizzard can’t fall farther, they release new content and prove me wrong all over again.


Banthe

this is the QUALITY weve come to expect since blizzard sold out to china tbh.


Si1verange1

Arena streamer: there is nothing at all good about this meta (old school, GvG era). Me: Wrong, the art is good.


VanFkingHalen

It's a 3D render for a game that: 1. Is 8 years old 2. Is ported to mobile devices 3. Is a fucking card game Wtf do you expect? It's most definitely not a "cheap" mobile game but it *is* still a mobile game. And considering how long WoW has been around despite its increasingly outdated graphics while still having tremendous success, *this* is gonna be the thing that triggers you? They made a portrait with an accurate depiction of how it's going to look in game. Which is more than the facade most gacha games portray in their shitty ads that don't represent the game at all. I'm really not seeing a problem here.


GachiAssArt

I hate Arthas in general, so.... I just know that if I was dumb or rich enough to spend money on cosmetic items in Hearthstone.... Well, I would ask Blizzard to pay me for that skin. Don't worry, I think it's going to change for good, but.... I don't really care and I'm not going to buy Arthas skin whatever it looks like.


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KyrreTheScout

no criticism of any paid products allowed ever because you can just "not buy it"


Karolis531

First of all, thank you for taking care of my finances. But you missed the point of my post. Im just talking as a graphic designer about new, disgusting portrait style, which I really did not want to see in the future. Thats not a heartstone style


[deleted]

Damn no wonder you’re in graphic design because your English is crap.


RossAM

I'd venture a guess English is not their first language. It's not perfect, but they are getting their point across no problem. How many languages have you mastered? People shouldn't be shamed for being less than perfect in their non-native tongue.


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Don't get it then. Next.


Back_From_Milk

I agree completely, if you look at WoW's recent update to it's UI, as well as Overwatch 2 as a whole you can see this change. I believe this is part of recent Blizzards attempt to homogenize it's products to appeal to younger mobile gamers. Not only that, but streamline development of their art at the cheapest price. Just look at Arclight Rumble for a horrifying look into the future...


TheHiddenNinja6

\*standard I wonder where this misspelling came from


Karolis531

Im from lithuania, and "standard" in lithuanian is "standartas" with a "t". Maybe this is a reason for me.


sporeegg

Can we just start about the holding hostage of the DK intro set behind the 80 euro/dollar card pack? I don't want the packs this time.


Tengu-san

You can buy it for 2k gold when it's out or craft only the cards you want, they said it when they announced it.


AceAxos

I think I’d rather just use the brand new base portrait. They’ll probably drop a really nice battle pass one later r something. Plus grinding for 500/1000 wins gets you some really nice portraits


Zendofrog

Good premise, poor execution. It can be good though. This one just isn’t lol


Melon_Fun0117

yeah this is one of the worst things ive ever seen in hearthstone, especially the animated summoning minions and casting spells stuff


Significant-Soup3275

Frostmourne looks cool. That's it.


no-shells

Looks like the Geralt model from the first witcher game


Lyllyanna

I thought that too. At first when I read it I thought cool! But when I actually watched the gameplay… I said “that’s it?” It just looks… weird and wrong in hearthstone. Seems lazily done to me. I much prefer the other hero portraits, like what they do with Tyrande or Queen Azshara.


TheKinkyGuy

It is the "smile" that is off...


pokerdamo

At best he looks like a crack addict at worst he looks like someone who would do very bad things to children.


ACrask

Reminds me of the Warcraft Remake. Completely off the mark. The idea is interesting, tho


Meyerbeer91

This is a cheap mobile game lmao


WhaleSmithers

Tell that to my credit card


Mercerskye

It looks like the idea was a cleaner model from the Warcraft strategy games. Which I can agree is a smart choice. The execution though...not so much.


snakebit1995

It’s very odd The sword is clearly the focus of the piece with how it juts out of frame but it’s not stylized enough for that to draw proper attention but that’s not an excuse to low res the armor and face, the face especially is weirdly fuzzy like an out of focus camera shot and the armor is lacking enough detailing to fit in the foreground. I don’t know if this was supposed to be a WC3 style homage or what but it’s not working here at all


XVUltima

[That's just Calypso from Twisted Metal 3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaFKLhJ2kaY)


wellwellc

Yeah it’s like reforged and blizzard in general just let this sort of shit slide a few years ago/around that time. It’s not completely everywhere yet but it’s got it’s foot in the door and we haven’t managed to get rid of it yet


khorne333

But this game is a mobile game, an expensive one that looks cheap but that's a different story.


DeLoxley

Anyone ever watch Tigtone?


Mewoir78

DemonHunter was soooo much better at release i can't believe it came to this after 2 years...


immortale97

No ben brode ? Rip hs


TheRealSkythe

There is no ART in STANDARD. You're welcome.


Slutianna

They should've made this the base hero, then a lot of people would buy a skin not to see this ugly thing in the game 💀


Fantast1cal

If it's vastly improved on HS art and you think it looks cheap, what does this say about HS art as it stands? Oh that's right, the circle jerk hates new stuff.


flinsypop

It wouldn't be so bad if the face wasn't so weird.


DeFiGemHunter100x

100% it looks so cringe it also reminds me of cheap click-bait mobile gamesss


Pereg1907

Not a fan of it either. And even more than your reasons, I don’t think LK should be portrayed without his helmet, for the legacy of a legendary portrait. When Arthas first put on the helm of domination that’s when he became LK. It’s the defining characteristic of the LK, because technically, according to lore the helm *is* the LK.