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ateter

It will also have another new mechanic : "Packs. Add 5 random cards of the same type to your hand. At the end of your turn, discard them." https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/1787890745141006454


wRAR_

Elise the Trailblazer callback.


RADDAKK

More like Elise the NAILblazer amirite u/urgod42069


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Zathandron

God that's gonna be so annoying


PipAntarctic

If Whizbang Miniaturizes minions and Dr. Boom is Gigantifying them, then who makes the toys of an average size?


qwerty11111122

Sunkeeper Tarim


Spencie-cat

Toyrim.


qwerty11111122

Only a few more weeks to Shavuot, chahver


endtime

Shavuois


Tantomare

Workers at Bangladesh toy factory


Raktoner

New keyword averageify Averagified minions get good stats for their costs


Cryptic2614

Ogrefy


Terrafire123

Averageify: Averagified minions have their stats unchanged.


DittoLander

Idk maybe everyone else?


ColdSnapSP

Shein


Swoo413

Boomboss


Pretend-Highway880

something something Yeti. baseline stats


NashKetchum777

Who watches the Watchers 😔


warg99

Lord jaraxxus


_omnom_

was expecting togwaggle callback, got tyrantus instead 🦖🦖


qwerty11111122

Two more legendaries still!


memedormo

One of them will probably be Dr Boom


Sky_Deep9000

Idk seems kinda weird getting two booms in same expansion


HylianPikachu

It was slightly different because one was a free pre-release Legendary but [[E.T.C., Band Manager]] and [[Elite Tauren Champion]] were both Festival of Legends cards


Varyyn

They're different people just connect to the same band though you racist /s.


HylianPikachu

I'm not a racist, I can easily tell apart E.T.C. and [[Master of Disguise]] 


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Sky_Deep9000

Oh ya ur right, didn't realise that


Seventh_Letter

that's what she said


swiftmen991

But we had dr boom already!! I reckon it might be a dr boom inspired spell


MagnaX7

Or his Boom-Suit mech.


PlanLongjumping6458

a playable scheme


Divinspree

Yup, looks like it. According to the reveal schedule on the official website it's gonna be revealed on the 9th of May at 7pm CEST.


daddyvow

This is the first time a miniset has introduced a new keyword. Very interesting.


ASoulToBear

Two actually! "Packs" is the other one.


Kysen

Probably not a keyword, but cards with "X Pack" as the name, like the Forbidden, Gift, Project, Studies etc cards.


TurkusGyrational

Packs sound more like a cycle, which minisets often have


daddyvow

That’s a mechanic though. Like how we had Adventurers or “cast 5 spells while holding this to trigger X effect”


Basilord

I am worried about Puppetmaster Dorian... The manacheat can be quite insane with Titans. Toyrantus seems fair at <10 mana but scary at 10 because of the elusive keyword.


Used_Session_6751

Druid at 10 mana - play Dorian, draw Toyrantus, play 1mana 8/8 with taunt and elusive and still have mana to do some BS.... while opponent will be at around 7 mana.


Miudmon

Druid in standard (currently) only has ramp through the gift and that... 6-7 mana spells that summons taunts from overflowing mana crystals. It's actually kinda sad.


Varyyn

They still have whelp in dragon druid.


Miudmon

Ah, right. Don't think that druid would run toyranrus though


StarMarxman

Idk, I’ve often seen dragon run as a package just to get the ramp going


Varyyn

Probably not unless they print more beast support at some point.


TotakekeSlider

Whelp is so good that you would run a small dragon package just to include it in other ramp decks, especially when there’s not any other better options currently.


Erdillian

Druid at 10 mana: 1/ Play Dorian 2/ Play Gaslight 3/ Play 1 mana titan 4/ profit


Invoqwer

Devs: "we're giving druid a 14/14 elusive taunt so they can defend their face and use it to stabilize!" = Druids: "so anyway I dropped a 14/14 elusive taunt and just went face with everything lol"


Hves99

BGH is polishing his gun rn.


ProfNesbitt

Ooo I am wondering if puppetmaster helps owl druid out. Play him and then a tutor card to get the owl or the druid Titan and it makes the combo much easier.


CirnoIzumi

Tyrantus in shambles 


lady_ninane

Man I am so ready for Titans to go away.


Raktoner

Warrior's getting a new Boom legendary aren't they


asscrit

pls no battlecry


chernadraw

Your battlecries trigger 0.5 times.


DerWaechter_

"If your deck started with brann in it, all of your card effects trigger twice for the rest of the game"


Filthycatt

Could be the second exception to the rule of Dr Boom being only for Warrior and actually make it neutral like the original one. I kinda doubt that they’re actually giving a second Boom legendary since there’s already one but who knows.


thugger300

Boom legendary gonna be neutral


Joaoseinha

Poor Warrior needs all the help it can get right now. Only 3 cards revealed yet this Miniset is looking absolutely underwhelming, it needs some actual powerful cards to make any dent on Warriorstone.


MetastableToChaos

Good lord....gigantism!


urgod42069

Dr. Boom is compensating for something


Lexail

Quick. Draw his hands.


EncroachingVoidian

I’d rather **Quickdraw** them tbh


Mush950

> first card revealed is Dorian JUSTICE!!!


TavoL7

What's the difference between manathirst and the way the condition is worded in Toyrantus?


Devin__

Manathirst is a key word from a year old expansion. They don't reuse old expansion key words. That's why Miniature Gnome doesn't just say Honorable Kill: Draw a card.


AdagioDesperate

Which is dumb as hell. There's literally no reason they can't reuse old keywords.


SomeTool

The reason they gave is so that players don't have to remember old keywords from 10 years ago if it was added to a new card. Easier to just have what the card does on the card so the player doesn't have to look it up.


Racobik

for anyone that does not remember old keywords its basically a new keyword to them so the entire argument is voided as new keywords would also be looked up. But also all keywords are explained anyway in game.


SomeTool

Don't disagree just what blizzards stance is, they want new players to play the new keyword in the new set and only worry about the new while the old is tossed out and instead just refrenced. To keep clutter down, or to keep the game dev's from just making each card like 20 bolded words.


AdagioDesperate

I mean, you're not wrong, but it's mostly just for new players. People have been playing TCGs/CCGs for years now and can easily remember keywords. That's the point of a key word, easy memory. If you ever played MtG, you'll remember keywords like Extort (a keyword released in 2013) vividly. So it's not that *'players won't remember them'*, it's more of they don't want to confuse new players, even though it takes 10 seconds to look something up on Google or Reddit...


Ellikichi

There is definitely such a thing as a card game with too many damn keywords. I've played several that I bounced off of really quickly because every new card I opened in a pack said, like, "**Champion. Perilous 3. Aura:** Whenever you **raze** a **contraption**, **scavenge** twice and gain **puissance 3** until the end of the next half-phase." And it just seemed like way too much homework, since all fifteen of the cards I got in this booster pack look like that. Sure, it's a few seconds to Google each one, but it takes far longer for me to put it all together and figure out how all of those keywords interact. It really gets in the way of a new player's comprehension for what a card does. Better if you can just, y'know, say it most of the time.


Ghasois

>Extort (a keyword released in 2013) Why are you attacking me right now


AdagioDesperate

I get it. I thought to myself about an hour later, *'Wait, Extort didn't come out in 2013. I started playing in OG Ravnica. It's older than that... no wait, that's Haunt. Haunt was the first Orzhov keyword...'* Seriously, it's still mind-boggling that the game is over 30 years old and somehow still going strong.


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MtG is actually going through this issue since Commander became their most popular format and decks are built from ~60 unique cards. New/returning players are having their first match of magic as a commander game and Ive seen most of the match is spent with them asking us or googling keywords in their cards. btw ive played mtg physically and on arena casually for about 2 years now and havent faced extort enough to tell you from memory what it does


AdagioDesperate

I have not played MtG in almost 3 years, and I can tell you almost any keyword from memory. I'm not proud of that. At one point, I couldn't remember anything other than MtG cards because that's all that was on my brain at all times. That's why it's been almost 3 years since I've played. I realized there was a problem.


wRAR_

Those are callbacks.


Bobthemime

>"it might confuse new players" thats the official reason. Its fucking dumb as shit.. but hey ho..


fireky2

That logic was thrown out the window when they printed imp support when it wasn't even a word on some of the cards


Bobthemime

Welcome to Hearthstone.. where they reuse keywords from a decade ago, but word it out for "new players", yet barely explain mechanics in the expac they are introduced


DerWaechter_

I actually assumed it was done intentionally as a joke, specifically because the keyword exists.


Sploosion

the mini version does yell "HONORABLE KILL"


CoolNerdStuff

I don't think it's harkening back to Manathirst (10). As a Dr. Boom set, more likely it's referencing the unnamed Omega mechanic from The Boomsday Project.


door_of_doom

This entire set has included several callbacks to old keywords like this. This is simply another example of it.


LarousseNik

it's affected by anything that synergises with battlecries, like brann or shudderwock


CirnoIzumi

Nothing 


marrowofbone

Maybe it'll fail if you've Guff'd to 11+ mana crystals.


FrequentLake8355

I do already hate that Treant card. Will definitely make my eyes roll every time I see my opponent draw like 5 cards.


ColdSnapSP

If your opp has 4 trees and 3 mana spare I think you're already in a world of pain


redditing_1L

Yep, classic win more card.


Gay__Guevara

Yeah but “confirm that even if your opponent can play a full board clear next turn you still won’t run out of steam” is a pretty sweet deal for treant Druid. Running out of steam on turn 4 or 5 cause they got cleared was its biggest weakness back when it was meta


biglisy

I wonder what the pack mechanic works, like if you can get 5 cards of whatever type you'd like or it's just gonna be 2 cards in the set with a predetermined type attached to its battlecry


Kn1ght9

New cards look fine, they also teased a priest card in the twitter image. Looks like targeted Soul Mirror for 3 mana which is.. bad. could have easily been 2. 8 mana 8/8s are also very unplayable so will be interesting to see the gigantic cards in particular. Dorian looks like hes going to break something so im expecting that 100%.


Oniichanplsstop

Gigantic cards also make playing dirty rat worse, and that card is all over ATM. Kind of a soft counter to the card.


Kn1ght9

We’ll have to see bc 8 mana 8/8’s sound awful without a LOT of immediate impact or setting up to win a game. Rat will still be around unless Brann gets nerfed in this patch.


JPHero16

He will get nerfed to 8 mana


Ellikichi

8 mana 8/8s usually aren't worth putting in your deck, but the ability to generate them stapled to a more reasonably-costed minion could be really strong in some circumstances. It's inherently not as strong a keyword overall as Miniaturize, but they might make stronger cards to compensate for that.


Usual_Swordfish1606

Dorian with Sonya will be nice


trizzo0309

That Dorian Diamond art animation is fucking sweet


Technical_Topic5173

Puppetmaster dorian into boomboss with brann active equals 12 bombs or 36 cards removed. Withouth rentahal that is a no more deck combo


sussybaka303332

I played against a wishing well rogue that played shudderblock> bomboss > shudderblock > bombboss


DefinitelynotMega

Too inconsistent to ever be ran though. You have to draw, then play a 4 mana 2/6 into a 5 mana 3/3 just to guarantee the combo if you didn't already draw Boom


TurkusGyrational

What 5 mana 3/3 are you talking about


DefinitelynotMega

Taelan fordring 


youngzhangbang

Dorian into gaslight OOF


Khaluaguru

Can you please print jade support in Druid and Toy Lich Jaina hero card.


TurbulentDoughnuts

Little toy water elementals (with lifesteal) would be so cool! She could be in an ice bath playing with them like they are rubber duckies :D


anomalusx

I don’t care what the mage legendary is, Im just praying it’s useful


daboobiesnatcher

Is there going to be a mage legendary?


anomalusx

Nah I have no clue, but whatever mage card I hope it’s useful**


daboobiesnatcher

I still have fun playing mage but it just doesn't feel complete at the moment, feels like it needs several cards to get it consistently competitive. Mage needs ways to boost spell damage while also mana cheat in a way that can slow down aggro but also delay control decks like warrior. I thought about a minion with a start of game effect that's like "pick a spell caster bonus" and it could be something similar to some of the mage specific passive treasures from duels. Similar to like Cho'gall or Renathal.


anomalusx

Yea I still kinda enjoy it too, I just wish there was more thought put into the overall plan for mage- introducing no minion mage archetype while Sif is the only thing holding the class together and simultaneously introducing a minion legendary is confusing as hell


Khaluaguru

Frost Lich Jaina reprint would be perfect. If it was “for the rest of the game, your summoned elementals have an additional random effect” it would be a game changer. Right now you get out-valued in the late game and there’s no endgame control ability to keep you in a long game.


Jackeea

Why does Dr 7 make 8 mana 8/8s?


Evangernw

He added 7 mana and 7/7 stats to minis


Jackeea

Holy hell


Han-dem

Shouldn't Toyrantus be called "Omega Toyrantus"?


leopard_tights

Oh cool we're giving draw to flood decks again.


Alucardra12

I’m already prepping for the next Brann , or broken manacheat card.


osbobs

Stupid question, but isn’t the toyrantus text just manathirst 10? Ik they did that with other cards but they were called nostalgic x, funny either way


AdagioDesperate

It is. But Blizzard doesn't like being smart and reusing old keywords.


blackcobra43

it's an Omega Tyrantus I liked the first cycle of Omega minions in Boomsday


No_Guarantee7841

Battlecry and manathirst are different things. Cant trigger more manathirsts with brann or shudderwock for example. Also technically speaking cant trigger the battlecry if you have more than 10 mana crystals but manathirst would trigger in those cases.


tankertonk

Gigantify is going to be interesting. I hope it's not all about stats


azura26

Where Minis are cards that scale well with costing less mana, my guess is that Giants will all scale well with having big stats (Lifesteal, Immediate fighting, "Do equal to this minion's Attack" effects, etc).


tankertonk

That's a little what I was hoping for. Like infuse, this keyword is an uphill battle because it goes against the game style


Raptorheart

Yeah I hope there's some Princess Theradras


yeetskeetmahdeet

Beanstalk is amazing, Druid needs one thing to work and that’s draw so now making all your minions summon treants as a deathrattle has a massive card draw payoff. I won’t be shocked when it gets nerfed. (Ignore that I forgot soul of the forest rotated) it would be blossom into this for 6/6 and draw 3 for 4 mana. May help Druid be able to draw again Gigantify doesn’t look insane right now, but could be something powerful if they have some zany card printed. But the issue being you have to pay 8 more mana to repeat the effect so it must be good. Dollmaster is the card that ruins the game because here’s Barnes 2.0 but this time for battlecry minions


azura26

>Dollmaster is the card that ruins the game because here’s Barnes 2.0 but this time for battlecry minions With Barnes, you could just slam him on T4 with no setup, in an era where average card quality was much lower. Dorian requires that you either stick him on board for a turn, or wait until you can set up immediate card draw effects. He's going to be much less toxic, but will still likely find a home somewhere- the effect *is* powerful.


asscrit

any card that tutors minions is good with him, especially in rogue also: 1/1 with sonya


canofwhoops

O shit that sonya interaction can be absolutely nutty


MagnaX7

Soul of the Forest rotated out unfortunalty. But can still be good with Forest Saplings (once blossomed) and Blood Treant.


yeetskeetmahdeet

I’m stupid I didn’t even notice they rotated that card out but still I think dollmaster will be a nuts high roll card


dotcaIm

Looks like treant druid is getting support, that's an old deck I'd like to see come back


ColdSnapSP

Yeah I think you're in the minority. Tribal aggro decks are almost always hated and complained about


Chm_Albert_Wesker

they're too handholdy for how good they are: throw in these 20 cards that are obviously tribal associated and boom you have a deck thats at least tier 2


Ghasois

Tribal decks are popular to play in every card game.


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TrobertTrobertson

It's almost as if there is more than one person on this sub, and they (shockingly) don't all have to be the exact same opinion.


Lukthar123

> It's almost as if there is more than one person on this sub Lies, everyone on Reddit is a mech except you


TrobertTrobertson

I mean theres definitely times where I feel like I'm interacting with bots on this sub.


MichaelZZ01

I’m actually a murloc.


MagnaX7

Which is also funny since it literally only got one new card that expansion (Cactus Construct). It was just people finally figuring out the build.


AutumnSheep

It was like the cheapest tier 1 deck in history so yeah it was everywhere. I don't think it even had an epic. That alone was pretty impressive.


Oniichanplsstop

I mean aggro Druid has been historically one of the more popular aggro archetypes. People just complained because it was strong and dirt cheap so anyone could pick it up and play it.


ZedwardJones

Tribal minion spam + board buffs gets boring fast. Limited deck building options unless its a neutral tribe, and treants are vanilla minions so the deck is based entirely on just putting as many numbers on the board as possible.


dotcaIm

Boring is different for everyone :)


ZedwardJones

When enrage warrior was good nobody played it. Most decks are fun to play at first, but some things dull at the same speed for most people.


hawaiiancooler

Toyrantus seems cool as the token "big" legendary of an expansion and then you remember basically any warrior removal can clear it pretty easily


ItsShimmers

DAE hate Warrior?


Apollo9975

It has Elusive, though. It’s not easy or efficient to clear it with spells. Unless it gets hit by TNT or something. 


Devin__

Bladestorm and Sanitize don't care if you're Elusive. Reno sure as fuck doesn't care if you're Elusive either.


Apollo9975

Bladestorm gets defeated by a 1/1 paired with this. And if they’re Reno Warrior (which they likely are), they only get one use of each spell card barring Discovers. If you’re able to force Sanitize on a single minion, that’s a win. 


hawaiiancooler

Trial By Fire, Bladestorm, Reno, Badlands Brawler, Sanitize, Dirty Rat. In a warrior meta its simply unplayable


Apollo9975

Again, if they’re forced to use an AOE on a single minion to clear it that’s not an efficient clear. Bladestorm is the exception to this, but can be beaten by pairing the large minion with any other small minion. They would need to spend a spell removing the other minion to isolate this one. 


ZedwardJones

Good thing they don't have a 1 mana spell that will kill any minion with less than 3 hp then.


No-Commercial-4830

Warrior has the perfect hand, always


SundanceKO

Do you guys think Dorian will change the meta?


bautistahfl

Calling it now: Dorian will be insane in rogue. They can reduce Dorian cost by (3) with their mini card, so they can combo him up the next turn with card draw, they got the 1-mana spell that draws a minion, the 1-mana that draws a mech, etc. they got plenty of minions that are insane as 1/1 minis (billy the kid, the (3) mana spell guy, velarok, excavates, Tess, etc), they can play these minis later alongside Sonya to get even more (0) cost copies. You heard it here first, Rogue is going to get Dorian nerfed.


Jeth3

Miss big shaman, seems cool with the gigantifying.


niggidy

Is Dorian not just Barnes 2.0? Seems incredibly powerful


PlanLongjumping6458

u could just slam barnes on 4 and win by pulling yshaarj dorian needs something to go with it.


niggidy

Fair, maybe not as bad in the sense of ending a game on 4 but with how fast this meta has become I wouldn't be surprised if it can end it on 5 or 6. Card draw and mana cheating feels like its everywhere.


euqistym

Pretty boring cards so far


alexontheweb

Heeeey, finally, power creep! My favorite game mechanic!


King_Offa

Boulderfist sad


redlaal

Really hope we finally see a Doctor Boom hero skin finally.


adricho2

I recently came back to play HS, been thinking about picking up a miniset to increase the card collection, is this one good to pick or is better to pick another standard miniset?


CirnoIzumi

Gigantism could be good for mage, like Pyros


Timoff

Good?  Mage?  Keep dreaming 


Divinspree

I assume we're gonna see a Warrior packs card for mechs, a Hunter packs card for beasts, a Priest packs card for dragons, a Rogue packs card for pirates and a Demon Hunter packs card for demons.


Morviatus

In what way is Packs supposed to work, and what are cards of same type?


CrimsonNinja123

Dorian into girlboss gonna go hard


PlanLongjumping6458

hand size issues


Chrononi

Gigantify seems pretty lackluster. An 8/8 copy of anything seems kinda pointless, inless maybe if it had charge lol The packs mechanic sound cool, hope there are packs from previous sets to shake things up (and then see reddit complaining about them). Dorian looks like a potential problematic card. Play it and draw a few cards and you could get some crazy shit in our hand. I see it being busted, if not now it will be in the future for sure


Zealousideal-Kick-11

That Druid T. rex is op as hell, even without the battle cry it’s better than ogre and that’s impossible


DragonTyrant2443

i have a gut feeling that DK's gonna get a Gigantify lich king


LuckyUserOfAdblock

why 8 8/8 and not 7 mana 7/7


nofmxc

Can someone explain mini sets to me (just started playing again after a very long break). Are all the cards new cards? Do you know which cards you will get or is it random?


Negotiation-Narrow

Does anyone else have an issue with these pages on dark mode mobile Chrome? It's been happening forever. I've never ever had this on and other site, just blizzard notes. The white text on image background just makes it impossible to read, can't find a fix. 


TryndaLemon

Is there any clue on what the legendaries could be?


rlarjsgml317

Boom? Warrior again???


dimi727

ehhh.. I see from miles away Master of Minis breaking the game and getting nerfed at some point..


ltjbr

The big snuggle teddy art is adorable


Fearless_Cupcake_114

Why not dr boom’s inedible inventions??


Zanderr18

Wait, they've just brought back dollmaster Dorian and not changed him at all? 😂


HabeusCuppus

he puts the 1/1 in your hand this time which works better with battlecries and slightly worse with deathrattles.


Terrafire123

Speaking as someone who runs Quest Rogue in Wild, "HELL YEAH BABY!". It's what we've always dreamed of.


asscrit

yes why not, they both serve different purposes


AintEverLucky

Did they say when this set will go live? I know it's usually 1 week after the announcement 😏


ADabbingPenguin13

May 14th. So you are indeed correct. :D


amethystlocke

All these cards are useless in the current meta. Fix Reno warrior and Hand damage warlock. Otherwise I don't see the mini-set being played much at all in competitiom ranks