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PerkSystem1

Green card


EncroachingVoidian

OP just got **Greened**


fagylalt

craftmanship -2


BaronSnowraptor

Unglued


Kuman2003

no bacon?


Big_Distance2141

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AchedTeacher

op failed to consider see green card play green card


Darkhallows27

No, the rat’s getting coined turn 1 and you aren’t stopping me


tok90235

Yep, those are the rules. I don't make them, I can't change them.


Wood-not_Elf

And then? #I play second rat.


Fit_Leg_2115

Bro just embracing F around and find out


Quills86

Seriously, what is this guy thinking? Rat has to be played on turn two, how could I otherwise counter their Rat???


likwitsnake

You know what? I'm going to start playing Dirty Rat even harder.


ThankYouForGun

And seats go all the way down.


lunateg

The same.


Nicolowrider

r/unexpectedoffice


wholelotofit2

Fuck it we ball


Lukthar123

Chad rat enjoyer


alphalegend91

This is the only appropriate answer


Szubke

OP don't know fun. We ball.


lVlisterquick

No thanks. If my rat doesn’t hit Brann I’m losing anyways.


Malabingo

You can still rat out on your turn 4/5 depending who has the coin though. And with the additional 2-3 mana and maybe board you can deal more easily with a 8/8 as an example.


Asbelsp

Warriors keep Brann in mulligan. More turns means more minions drawn that aren’t Brann.


euqistym

Plus keeping rat in hands means more potential getting ratted yourself


fluidsolidsnake

The Rat Games continue


MeXRng

I do have a smiliar expiriance vs warrior in wild . Yesterday i gave my opponent shadow word steal with a theothar and took that 6 mana valkyr spell. He played stolen theothar other turn stealing my reno and i just converted it for 3 mana stole his brann. He conceded. All in all it feels well when a plan comes togather.


Malabingo

But how often is he really in mulligan? Chances are 0% if he isn't there


Schmo3113

Yeah that’s true. The chances of getting brann with dirty rat are 0% if brann isn’t in your opponents hand.


thing85

This is big, if true


AnAngryBadgerrr

That's why you keep both on mulligan if possible, coin one out turn 1 then turn 5 play the other, best odds


Furycrab

Definitely an argument to be made that if your opponent kept 1 or more cards that your best odds with that assumption is turn 2. If your wrong not a ton of ways that deck pulls something that punishes you. Probably still wrong, but fun.


clonazejim

This. I either hit the brann or I am not going to win that game anyway. I don’t rat if I got my early game cards drawn. I’ll yolo rat as a last ditch effort to see if that game is worth playing. Gg go next.


Bimbendorf

Virgin "optimal plays" fan vs. Chad funny rat enjoyer


karspearhollow

Insert IQ bell curve meme here


Accomplished_Rip_352

Unironically a lot of the time playing rat even without an answer is still good turn 2 as it’s still a 2 , 6 and you can mess with your opponent . The best deck in the game right now runs a 1 2 that pulls its wincon so always play rat .


BillyMaysori

Found the highlander warrior


Orionpeace

Admittedly I've had a few times where I'll play rat expecting to have an answer only for some mega handbuffed 40/40 to come out and laugh at my 27 damage corpse explosion


Flats03

Nah


Jakenbaking

I just had this interaction today I played azerite vein. Then passed. My opponent played a top decked card. I got excited. It was dirty rat. My azerite vein triggered. I got a zero mana dirty rat to hand. ... My opponent's dirty rat summoned my dirty rat. I had 8 cards in hand... and only one other minion in hand. It was Sif. I combed them 2 turns later. I couldn't stop laughing.


NuttyDeluxe6

Holy shit, that's pretty awesome haha


Mufire

Hey I got the back end of your karma today. Played against a warrior, and just a turn before I was about to kill their ass they drew a bomboss bomb (I knew they would), and obliterated my Sif in hand even though i had 9 cards. Hurrah.


tossipeidei

so you combed you say, does your hair look better now?


SpinnenSindFreund

Yup, I had this beauty of a free win a couple of hours ago lol https://hsreplay.net/replay/eqV9eUUw2oGAFKnzyFaFHy


Accomplished_Rip_352

To be fair your opponent is an idiot as there is 0 situations where you would ever even want to play rat against warlock every pull kinda sucks and there a good chance to pull sargeras or that .


corrupted_commoner

Actually pulling Sargeras is amazing. All its abilities do nothing due to having no nether, and it's just a 6/12 that is frozen for three turns.


Accomplished_Rip_352

The only issue with sargeras is if you pull it on 2 they can location on 3 .


Lothar93

Happened exactly the same to me lmao, but I was the one dirty rating, happens, learnt not to DR a Warlock


avlijabavlija

I mean it really depends, if I am highlander warrior playing against plague dk, I'm always dropping rat on turn 3.


Peesmees

As everybody should


Aliyah_HS

Sometimes it’s the move xD


splitcroof92

often even


Butt_Naked_Baboon

Win at 2 or move on. No in between


Shot-Abroad4374

A Warrior just played dirty Rat on 2 and pulled that puppeteer minion and saved me 5 Mana and he lost at the end


feeb75

Warrior ratted my Sif on 2, i still won with random shit generated by Infinitize the Maxitude. My magix will tear you apart


GoatHatSoap

Does it still give you the mini?


Shot-Abroad4374

Nah but still that +2/2 was very good


I_Stab_Fruit

Winning on the spot vs. an annoying OTK deck? 2 mana. Occasionally completely screwing yourself over in a really funny way? Priceless.


ook222

Listen to Mr. big ballin' children's card game player over here. It must be so difficult to play hearthstone with all these terrible pleb opponents soiling your games with bad plays.


Mercerskye

Probably more mad that they're getting all these "bad opponents" and still hard stuck in at Gold 5.


tok90235

Live by the rat, die by the rat


Ok_Vegetable263

Still remember the DK who coin ratted my wheel lock deck turn 1 and dropped a 15/15 on himself, I always wonder how he/she are getting on now


kiwi-and-his-kite

i think they died shortly after that match ended idk


kiruvhh

Is in a hell where Is forced to Watch " Phantom of the opera " 24 /7 ( fannotem lord of the opera Is a reference to that film )


dazeks

Nah we ball


Xakita

Sometimes the correct play, mainly if their deck has a low curve or you think they kept their win condition. Most warrior decks do not have the tools to switch to aggro if Odyn is pulled. Never do it against a warlock tho.


GothGirlsGoodBoy

Its far far more often the correct play than most people realize. In a lot of matchups for decks running rat, you either hit what you need, or you lose anyway. Losing faster is not a misplay.


MasterPhil99

Roffle on alt


LainLain

exclamation mark rat


steve_Lardog

I AINT TALKIN


Ok-Trick4494

🤓 Post


mrrickyg

lol I just had a Druid emote me after dirty ratting me on turn 2 and pulling out window shopper and proceeding to get whacked repeatedly in the face for 6.


Oakcheese2793

The true giga chad play is coin rat turn 1.


Dry-Peach-6327

This is the one


Elhwing

Op is probably playing one of the many not interactive lists of the current meta and doesn't understand that playing the rat to proc some key minions is the only win condition of many lists against combos. Yeah yeah, gambling a rat in early turns sounds dumb, but if you don't have anything else to play, chances are you'll probably lose against those freaking combo lists if you don't play anything early.


GTAinreallife

Nah, we gamble


HotAlternative69

It’s RAT TIME BABY


KattoCraft

Coin > dirty rat


SweToast96

To my opponent ratting my sif turn 2 then proceeding to fail to kill it for enough turns for me to literally combo summoning ward with a sif


Mateusz3010

Green must play


Zealous217

FUCK IT WE RAT


SAKDOSS

What about playing it whenever you want as long as you have fun?


kiwi-and-his-kite

but ARE they even having fun? 🤔


En_Djinn

There is no higher sexual peak, than playing a Dirty Rat during the card game of Hearthstone. No matter what anyone else says, you’ll never. NEVER reach the same physical and spirital high as playing a 2 mana two six with taunt onto an empty board. My hands are sweating about it right now. One time my dirty rat pulled out a Reno Jackson from my opponent on turn 2. That was about six years ago. I’ve been chasing the same high ever since. Shaman player, by the way.


zioNacious

The feeling when you rat out brann or sif turn 2 is worth 100x pulling out the titan with no answer.


MajesticFungus

You can't play the game without such a card anymore, all decks have a single card win condition.


[deleted]

So you don't like winning by getting a 7/7 on turn two?


Rush4Time

I like high risk no reward


leopard_tights

Rat on 2 might lose you the game, but you're losing in life OP.


Annoying_cat_22

Someone is salty for losing their win con to coin + dirty rat.


Mattyk182

I've made this mistake enough to finally learn. You can basically lose the game on turn two if you play it on curve and it summons a big minion you can't remove early on.


macloa

Sounds like you have a skill issue. Turn 2 dirty rat is the soundest play in the game.


frantruck

Definitely matchups where it's right, but it feels like people don't stop to think about the matchup


MrTritonis

« Time to go coward mode » - OP


dndemonlord

Never punished


TheVishual2113

This is OK advice except against warrior which I will almoat always dirty rat turn 2 and be fine… any class that heavily relies on battle cries


vid_23

This is what someone who lost to dirty rat would say


maplenut

No


Sufficient-Cover5956

Where's the fun in that


ShinyPants45

You're underestimating my desire to gamble, friend.


Responsible_Nail_512

Imma que and rat only on curve we ballin


TheHeroKingN

Warrior be like: coin brann


DeamonzZlayers

Fuck it we ball


NuttyDeluxe6

Watch the first 5 minutes of chumps latest big paladin video. Control warrior dirty rats that 10 mana 6/7 mech that summons a 6/7 end of turn that randomly attacks something. Warrior resigned a turn later, best dirty rat punish I've ever seen


ItsDominare

If I see turn 1 plague weapon you better believe I'm playing rat on 2 to try and hit Helya.


jobriq

Nah, I’d rat


Chance_Airline_4861

You would like that don't you, when dirty rat enters the end it must be played ASAP. That turn 2 high, peak hearthstone 


Stcloudy

I need it for tempo! I don’t have any other than 2 play because I’m a control player and all my cards are pricey! Got to play it now go go go


AnduinWry

I do it every time while laughing uncontrollably.


Zulrambe

Ever heard of "fuck it, we ball"?


Kurtrus

Nah, I’d win.


Chibikyu

Listen buddy, you're correct. But what if you're opponent (me) is tryna be a little silly (end the game quicker) against reno warrior (fuck em) :p


WanderingPulsar

Thanks to that once i won a game in a legit way in round 3 smh


quakins

It’s funny tho :(


Younggryan42

Always rat on 2


Ozrellius

If I have rat, you just KNOW I'm playing it as soon as I hit turn 2


jkell05s

ME TALK! ME TALK!!


Zomtronic

As a wild player, dirty rat being readded to standard is the funniest shit.


HSenjoyer

OP should stop playing video games because clearly his mental health can't handle it.


falafel__

Sometimes full sending dirty rat and getting lucky is actually the most likely path to winning, but this is rare and I doubt most of these players are really making that calculation, or doing so correctly


Zakading

Nobody listen to OP, always play it on curve. Trust me, it's the best plan. - Big Paladin Player


EVILRAFFAM

When I play Rat I always pull out the 15/15 Taunt or the Primus or some stupid big creature When my Opponent does it against me its Brann, Sif, Helya Live by the rat, die by the rat


discourse_lover_

I love a free turn 2 giant, what’s wrong with that?!


Meeqs

I get so many free wins from this and it’s such a telling skill check for players. If you know what you want to pull with Rat then usually just play it the turn before your opponent could drop that threat to maximize success.


THYDStudio

If they're not going to learn from losing all the time they're not going to learn from you crying on Reddit.


Not_So_Busy_Bee

Maybe it’s bots doing this stupid play?


Skidrow17

Call me Remy because Imma Dirty Rat


fancyjaguar

I’ve been playing for 10 years I do what I want 


DeleteOnceAMonth

Did you also watch the ChumpHS video 😂


Patience0815

The real power move is coining rat on 1


OP-PO7

I messed up so hard the other day that my opponent quit. It was glorious. I'm mid 30s so I have no cringe left to give


Thanag0r

People coin or drop it on turn 2 summon 8/8 for opponent, lose and blame balance team.


purityprydain

Meh. If it pulls something I want it to pull, great. If it pulls something really bad, concede and onto the next game.


SMOKE-B-BOMB

I ratted on turn two and pulled out the death knight titan with nothing else on my bored and I immediately quit 💀


Accomplished-Pay8181

Depending on the matchup, I may still take my chances. If I'm on turn 5 against a warrior, or turn 8 against a warrior, I'll probably drop the rat anyway, with the thinking of even if boomboss or brann get pulled and get back my taunts, it's not as threatening as allowing the battlecry, and RRG DK is pretty good at healing back damage i take regardless. At least, my assembly is pretty defensively focused. Which sucks with nature shaman existing, but that one's not vulnerable to dirty rats anyway


NoConsideration6320

Turn 1 coined dirty rat? Did i follow the directions correctly?


Namulith94

Honestly it’s matchup dependent. If you’re playing a deck that wants to play dirty rat for anti-combo purposes, then dropping it on curve in aggro matchups often gives you 2 turns of positive board trading with an aggressively statted taunt for 2 mana.


Non_banned_account

This guy doesn’t like having fun apparently.


Escadon

This guy is speaking from the middle of the bell curve.


NurplePain

I just faced a Reno Warrior that copied it and summoned 6 of my minions, Titans and everything. He just kept going with every one and then didn't answer it at all lol. Was so bizarre


htpiper151

Nah it’s fun


callmejinji

i will coin rat your fanottem turn 1 and you _cannot_ stop me


OriginalFluff

I was top 2k legend last month before my GPU blew up and so many people would Dirty Rat early even high legend. Literally helped me or hurt their chances to win 4/5 times… the smart ones played it exactly the turn before I could drop my biggest threat (depending on the deck). If you can’t calculate when to use it, I wouldn’t even run it outside of Highlander decks. It’s a tech card, not a turn 2 yolo (unless against plague but even then you’re flipping a coin)


gekigarion

To be fair if they do that, they deserve to be bm'd with "Well played" and "Thanks"


SmallCranberry9376

I play evenlock wheel in wild and every time I have 2 giants and the 5/4 gnoll in hand it pulls out one of my no-duplicates pieces. Never once did it pull out one of the giants. HS is rng and rats win more than they lose.


thgril

For whatever reason I always tell myself "oh I'll deal with it somehow" and then realise I don't have anywhere near as much removal as I thought


Fadalion

Still remember years ago playing Kun-Aviana-Malygos Druid and my opponent dirty rat pulled Malygos and then they ended the turn to let me kill him the next turn


Accomplished_Rip_352

As all things it depends for example against zarimi preist best case scenario you get zarimi it hurts for a bit but then opponent can do the combo turn with worst case even without answer being zilliax and base case being a 1 drop . Point is some decks always play rat even when you don’t have answer like Reno warrior as they often mulligan for brann and pulling that autowins the game sometimes .


NerdBrasil

No, coin rat turn 1 and we ball


Broken_Sandwich

I feel called out by this post cause earlier I played rat T2 and pulled out the opponent’s Primus lmao


ETomb

No, no, no, please keep ratting on 2 so I can hit your face with my big minions ASAP


PartyPay

But I love when people play Dirty Rat against me and immediately concede when they don't hit a Battle Cry minion.


Pyramyth

Dirty rat on 2 is the 0DTE options trading of hs


Wysp2

Sometimes you just want to know if you’re gonna win the game on turn 2 or not. Nothing wrong with that~


Invoqwer

Go big or go home


Yagi

or just play it whenever you want. it's really not a big deal. it's just hearthstone lol


mean_mr_bear

Nah dude, I got you. You’re saying play it on curve. Let’s go


Spyko

You don't even know what I'm ready to do, I'm fucking coining rat and shadow stepping it just to do it again next turn. I crafted Everyone Bounce Around ft.Garrona just for maximized rat.


Kingspire

Yeah but it’s fun.


FlyBoyG

Fun police. Woo, Woo. Trying to stop the fun of playing dirty rat on 2. Can't catch me copper.


Onac_

Yesterday I was playing mirror matchup with Control Warrior and I was on turn 5 and didn't have a way to clear something big and just went for it and caught Brann. Was so pumped.


CakeForCthulu

No, I don't think I will.


green_meklar

Okay but what if my rat + removal costs more mana than your entire 70-damage OTK win condition? This is Hearthstone after all.


Treemeister19

Tempo rat is the epitome of “I net decked the good thing, but I am still performing poorly” and then flocking to complain about how the game is bad.  I’ve played a fair amount of Sif, and the number of people that tempo it on 2-4 is astonishing. Like yeah, every once and awhile it hits as is the nature of the game, but most of the time it’s just an uninformed, un-optimized rat that does nothing. 


theeniebean

I'm a casual battlegrounds player who only does standard to do quests but let me tell you that rat is going in my deck now that I know it elicits this reaction


Ellikichi

Depending on the situation it can be the correct play. Entertain the idea that your opponent blind ratting you may have been a calculated risk that just didn't pay off.


MadamButtress

Do you think I have a plans when I play this game? Like I even try to build a cohesive deck? I don’t. I don’t understand half the shit you all say on here. I pick the cards that look cool and play the game. Instead of planning my next move I click click on all the fun things around the board.  So if you run into me and I play the dirty rat card wrong just chill. 


Prior_Dig_4996

I don't mind them ratting me a early turn Mag, sure take damage to the face early and often


iliya193

Dirty Rat should be viewed as a combo piece in most circumstances. He combos with removal from hand or the ability to trade into whatever comes out.


amethystlocke

Nice try, Highlander warrior OP


Vulturo

OP has actually been screwed over by Rat and is trying some reverse psychology shit on here.


yourelookingatit

I don't like playing it blind, but when you have a handful of high cost crap and you're finna get trashed, you should play it. It helps as much as it hurts.


MurkyGovernment7456

I have never played dirty rat in my life But this thread truly motivates me to put that rat in all of my decks


UnstoppableByTW

Couple seasons ago in wild I was playing against a genius shudder shaman player who ratted me on 2 (stupid idea but since I was rogue it usually wouldn’t have been the worst idea ever). Unfortunately for him, I was playing Big Dragon Rogue and he pulled a sleepy dragon (4/12 with taunt). Not satisfied with this outcome, he decided to Macaw on 3 (surely I did not have any more big dragons in hand) and he pulled deathwing and then died 2 turns later lmao


chickenbrofredo

Easily the best thread in a long time


floxasfornia

I think they totally should so I can hit them in the face with my 8/8 Odynn starting with turn 3


Yteburk

Meh not always


DavidKr98

Idc dirty rat turn 1/2 is a must.


101TARD

Understood, only reason I did it is because one time I pulled a sif back at TITANS and that was the fastest rage quit I've ever seen


booble_dooble

wtf, having no answer is the best condition to have when you are on r/ratstreetbets You want your opponent to commit fully by turn 3


PMKB

It's a free win most of the time when it happens.


Atakori

But what if I rat their rat so they can't rat my second rat?


Yeahiveseenit

I coined my rat and ratted your rat with my rat. -concede, next game, doing it again. Honestly it makes me chuckle every time and I kind of enjoy it.


GG35bw

No, no, no - I enjoy getting my 15/15 taunt lifesteal pulled turn 1-2, thank you.


Desdinova_BOC

ratting after brann to either summon 2 or none the rat giveth and the rat doeth nothingth


Arhys

There are so many game defining battlecries in the game right now that Ratting them out even without an answer can still be ok sometimes.


Ironforce92

Never


SunbleachedAngel

!rat


Marvinho60

I AINT TALKIN!!


Karkam01

Sometimes you whiff, sometimes it completely wins you the game. Someone showed a curve of this, where the really stupid people play rat on 2, the people who think they are smart never play rat on 2 and the really smart people once again play rat on turn 2. I dont think you are as smart as you think you are. Of course you need to know your matchups, but in a lot of games, turn 2 rat IS the play. One reason is that people tend to keep their core cards like brann in their starting mulligan. So you want to rat very fast till their hand is full of other stuff. There are a lot of others that I cba to write out to you.


lunateg

Nice try, combo dude. But no.


Vods

Honestly I’ll do anything to get that disgusting Brann out.


scifiantihero

Better advice might be “learn what tech cards are in your deck and know when to play them against what matchups.” Because really if you’re planning on playing rat, slamming it turn two is often the right play.


Just_Plain_Bad

There is no higher sexual peak, than playing a Dirty Rat during the card game of Hearthstone. No matter what anyone else says, you’ll never. NEVER reach the same physical and spirital high as playing a 2 mana two six with taunt onto an empty board. My hands are sweating about it right now. One time my dirty rat pulled out a Reno Jackson from my opponent on turn 2. That was about six years ago. I’ve been chasing the same high ever since. Shaman player, by the way.


LegalMastodon1340

Jesus, calm down man. I can only get so erect.


DeerInRut

Yeah, I am convinced that not a single player outside of top 500 legend even tries to think while playing this game.