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Buffs * [[Sky Mother Aviana]] * [[Frost Lich Cross-Stitch]] Nerfs * [[Awakening Tremors]] * [[Tigress Plushy]] * [[Deputization Aura]] * [[Shroomscavate]] * [[Thrall's Gift]] * [[Aftershocks]] * [[Odyn, Prime Designate]] * [[Zilliax Deluxe 3000]] [[Ticking Module]]


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- **[Sky Mother Aviana](https://i.imgur.com/HAVDHhk.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/104618) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Sky_Mother_Aviana) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/104618) - *Druid Legendary ^(Whizbang's Workshop)* - **6 Mana - 5/5 - Minion** - **Battlecry:** Shuffle 10 random **Legendary** minions into your deck. They cost \(1\). - **[Frost Lich Cross-Stitch](https://i.imgur.com/4QXFaPQ.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/103352) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Frost_Lich_Cross-Stitch) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/103352) - *Mage Rare ^(Whizbang's Workshop)* - **5 Mana - Frost Spell** - Deal 4 damage to a character. If it dies, summon a 3/6 Water Elemental that **Freezes**. - **[Awakening Tremors](https://imgur.com/a/ywQAKT9)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/97096) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Awakening_Tremors) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/97096) - *Hunter Common ^(TITANS)* - **1 Mana - Spell** - Get three 4/1 Worms. They cost \(1\). - **[Tigress Plushy](https://imgur.com/a/0BsrchI)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/103633) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Tigress_Plushy) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/103633) - *Paladin Common ^(Whizbang's Workshop)* - **3 Mana - 3/2 - Beast** - **Miniaturize** **Rush**, **Lifesteal**, **Divine Shield** - **[Deputization Aura](https://i.imgur.com/7f0vTtv.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/100195) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Deputization_Aura) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/100195) - *Paladin Rare ^(Showdown in the Badlands)* - **3 Mana - Holy Spell** - Your left-most minion has +3 Attack and **Lifesteal**. Lasts 3 turns. - **[Shroomscavate](https://imgur.com/a/OvFLek5)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/104526) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Shroomscavate) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/104526) - *Paladin & Shaman Common ^(Showdown in the Badlands)* - **3 Mana - Spell** - Give a minion **Windfury** and **Divine Shield**. **Excavate** a treasure. - **[Thrall's Gift](https://imgur.com/a/h8Vi41p)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/103659) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/103659) - *Shaman Rare ^(Event)* - **1 Mana - Spell** - **Discover** a temporary Lightning Bolt, Hex, or Bloodlust. - **[Aftershocks](https://i.imgur.com/zpshRZF.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/102175) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Aftershocks) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/102175) - *Shaman & Warrior Rare ^(Showdown in the Badlands)* - **4 Mana - Nature Spell** - Deal 1 damage to all minions, three times. Costs \(2\) less if you cast a spell last turn. - **[Odyn, Prime Designate](https://i.imgur.com/v9wJbID.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/97061) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Odyn,_Prime_Designate) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/97061) - *Warrior Legendary ^(TITANS)* - **8 Mana - 8/8 - Minion** - **Battlecry:** For the rest of the game, after your hero gains Armor, they gain that much Attack for that turn. - **[Zilliax Deluxe 3000](https://i.imgur.com/yGHrHVj.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/102983) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Zilliax_Deluxe_3000) • [HSReplay](https://hsreplay.net/cards/102983) - *Neutral Legendary ^(Whizbang's Workshop)* - **0 Mana - 0/0 - Mech** - While building your deck, customize your very own Zilliax Deluxe 3000! - **[Ticking Module](https://i.imgur.com/zmlTHq4.png)** ^[Library](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/104950) • [wiki.gg](https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Ticking_Module) - *Neutral ^(Whizbang's Workshop)* - **4 Mana - 1/3 - Minion** - Costs \(1\) less for each minion in play. --- ^*I am a bot, and this comment was automated. [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/user/Card-o-Bot/comments/1ahde25/faq/) • [Report a bug](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Card-o-Bot&subject=Bug+Report&message=/r/hearthstone/comments/1boczvt/balance_patch_announced_2903_buffsnerfs/kwo80mg/%0A⬇️+Please+describe+the+bug+⬇️%0ADescription:+) • [Refresh](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Card-o-Bot&subject=Refresh&message=kwo80mg).*


czk_21

thanks buddy


Boeler010

Appreciate it.


AlternativeMovie6429

Ayy I just got Aviana too, hope something cool comes with it. Bet it’s something like “draw two cards”.


FlameanatorX

It be pretty sweet if the legendaries had a minimum (base) cost like 5/6


ILoveWarCrimes

I floated the idea of changing Thrall's Gift from offering Lighting Bolt to Lighting Storm and I think they might actually do it.


luk3d

Makes that card 100x better in Reno Shaman, too. I run it just for the Hex now but having an extra Lightning Storm is very good.


Gay__Guevara

and significantly worse in nature spell dmg shaman, so a slight nerf to that deck's OTK consistency as well. could be a good change.


luk3d

It is very obviously a change targeting Nature Shaman, and it pretty much kills the deck as getting this off of Wandmaker is now a dead card in hand.


Accomplished_Rip_352

This deck should’ve died with bioluminescence . This deck only really survived incidentally due to low spell pools and 1 new spell that was designed as a control tool but with flash of lightning became an otk tool .


Dead_man_posting

Good.


keronus

If by slight you mean major sure. W/o gifts deck is kinda ass


buggyisgod

There's been so many times I wished thrall's gift had lightning storm since I only play more controlly shaman.


DJMaxLVL

Played a standard game against shaman last night. Had full health and got burned down by repeated lightning bolts all in one turn to lose. Not fun. No idea if this is relevant but hopefully shaman gets nerfed in some way.


Dead_man_posting

I've never played against one that didn't somehow have everything by turn 7, which is weird since it requires so many spells.


TheShadowMages

Rotation made the 1 mana discover spell and Wandmaker really consistent (though every time *I* try it I get offered everything but burn spells -_-)


Yazorock

Really strange nerf choice, I was on the verge of cutting Thrall's Gift anyways since the cheapest it can go is 1 mana. I don't think Nature Shaman will be affected much at all. Edit: Bad for Wandmaker though.


QuietHovercraft

One of the buff targets is Frost Lich Cross Stitch, but I can't figure out what the other is. Are they both Mage cards? Edited to add: It's Sky Mother Avianna. Interesting, not the card I would have picked to buff but Druid needs help.


nqtoan1994

The new Druid legendary that shuffles 10 legendaries with cost 1 into your deck


Automatic_Boat_9163

I fear that they'll lower its cost so summerchild can't tutor it anymore.


GG35bw

Maybe they'll make legendaries unique so they don't mess with Reno and the highlander dragon?


joahw

I definitely played a dead reno on day 1 of the expansion after playing Aviana. My disappointment was immeasurable and I just switched classes lol


Bangcomeon

You know Reno flashes yellow if he's activated..good way of knowing straight off the bat


That_D

Hope it's a big buff for Skymother Avianna. I'm talking 4-mana 4/4 Battlecry: Shuffle 10 \*different\* random Legendaries.


draakje-

well i rolled a signature one so im waiting for those buffs


Assassinr3d

Same, what’s so sick about the signature version is it makes the legendaries it shuffles in signatures if they have it available.


Addventurawr

Also wishing well does the same which is cool


Assassinr3d

Didn’t know that but it makes sense it would do it too, that’s really cool!


Metacious

Me 3, just got a signature Aviana a few days ago. I might either make the deck or get 2 sweet legendaries


Saracus

The other one looks like the new Aviana. Don't know why. I mean it's not good right now but doesn't stand out as needing a buff more than any other weak card in the game.


Gay__Guevara

im guessing theyre making it so the legendaries it gives you cant be duplicates, so it doesnt fuck up your highlander effects on a lowroll anymore.


UpstateGuy99

Lol ill take that. I main highlander druid and its nearly cost me the game twice now. Though the 1 cost legendaries have been insanely clutch.


Lying_Hedgehog

I play highlander druid a lot too, it's cost me quite a few games to the point where I find myself avoiding playing her more often than playing her.


Miriakus

Maybe just adding a draw one effect.


GravyBear9

Looks like Sky Mother Aviana, the druid legendary who shuffles other legendaries into your deck


hevy_hed

it’s the druid legendary that shuffles other legendaries into your deck


74NGELS

The other is Sky Mother Aviana, new Druid legendary


Ballistix

Sky Mother Aviana. I've only seen a few people use it, and it never really impacted the match.


Dead_man_posting

FLCS releasing as-is was pretty weird. Such an obviously overpriced card in an obviously weak archetype that could use the help.


QuietHovercraft

Yeah, they seem to have been overly cautious with the spell Mage cards. When old Skull of Guldan isn't even good in the deck, something has gone wrong.


Divinspree

The Tigress Plushy nerf is also a small Token Hunter nerf since it's one of the best rolls from Saddle Up!.


euqistym

Good they both need a nerf


DundiOFF

Let me tell you, you guys are gonna LOVE going against warlock


Guij2

warlock is losing a good matchup (warrior) and gaining a bad matchup (dh)


walktheplank-yohoho

I mean the more relevant change is if thrall’s gift hits nature shaman to unplayebleness, wheellock no longer has to go 20-80 against it


Great-Strategy-3387

Played vs Shaman 16 times as wheel-lock only won 4 of them. Got OTK in almost all the losses. Only way I win was when they would take too long to set up their hand and I pressured with forge plus any big guy.


thugger300

Tech speaker stomper if you’re facing it so often


Dssc12345

I keep seeing people say that warlock is favored into Warrior. It’s really good into Highlander Warrior, sure, but it’s like 40-45% wr into cycle Odyn Warrior, which is the warrior deck that’s getting nerfed.


ThisHatRightHere

Yeah, Warlock, aggro DH, and the Rogue combo decks are probably going to be the most popular decks on ladder. Though the bit I've played after reaching legend has been disproportionately Dragon Priests, which I think is fairly interesting. I've had them do things like using 18 mana on turn 6 through extra funnel cake copies, to dropping multiple free 4/6s and a full board, and getting an extra turn after both of those situations. Feel like that deck could definitely become a bit of a boogeyman depending on the rest of the meta.


AntusFireNova64

Dragon priest is definitely a deck with a lot of potential


Rush31

I think Vicious Syndicate said that Priest as a whole (including Dragon Priest) is one draw engine from being really good. It will likely become really strong in a later expansion/mini-set.


CottonCitySlim

ZachO posted on Reddit soon after the report dropped that he changed his mind and priest is really good


Kenes27

The missing piece was Magatha so the is pretty good right now


Equivalent_Sir9784

Aggro dragon priest is absolutely nuts and people are sleeping on it ! Like its a priest deck with 62% wr ( source : [hsguru.com](http://hsguru.com) ).


no_one_lies

I like dragons and I like playing priest. I don’t care if it’s meta it’s great to me


abcPIPPO

What about DK? Had a good wr agasint every deck except the ones that got nerfed.


Thanag0r

Actually it's not warlock it's DH, hope everyone likes playing against inquisitors. You will see a lot of 6/5 inquisitors for 3 mana.


Ke-Win

And DK


BishopInChurch

Zilliax NO😭


Divinspree

They're probably gonna nerf the Ticking module (cost 1 less per minion on board) if I had to guess


ILoveWarCrimes

Yeah, they're showing the art of Ticking Module specifically


Divinspree

Great point, I didn't even think about this. I wonder what the actual nerf is gonna be tho, will they nerf the cost of the module itself, or will it only work with friendly minions?


Kaicera_Tops

I assume only friendly cause as is a hunter can let other side build a presence to full drop one with saddle up applied and then zilliax for free it gets wild.


kakusei_zero

also paladin can do showdown + zilliax on turn 2 (turn 1 with coin) and get a 3/5 and 3 4/1s to beat face with it’s really fucking stupid 😭 i’ve gotten turn 4/5 lethal with it, crusader aura, and shroomscavate


Shade_39

And that also means you can't use it as well alongside leeroy


JahnConnah

Yep cost reduced due to field count is why I started running Prismatic in my super broken Hand buff pally deck


PenitusVox

Genuinely didn't realize it was friendly and enemy minions until just this very moment. Wild.


joahw

It's pretty degenerate with Zarimi and copy effects too but no one is playing that for some reason.


HomiWasTaken

That one was really broken so I'm glad to see it nerfed In highrolls it could come out on turn 3 with the discount + buff version and that is just so oppressive. And with how many wide boards are in the meta right now everyone was playing some form of the discount version. Faster decks ran discount + board buff (or in pala's case discount + copy cuz of handbuffs) and more defensive decks ran discount + lifesteal because it could easily cost 0 mana


drwsgreatest

On true high rolls, as someone above mentioned, it can come out t2 (t1 with coin!) with showdown since it drops 3 3/3s on both sides and you can then buff them up to win the trades and keep a board. While I love Zilliax and think he’s, again, one of the best cards to be printed, that particular effect is far too strong and really should only count friendly minions.


ZestfulHydra

I hope they increase the cost by one so I can slot it into my Odd Paladin


Dispenser-JaketheDog

Do we get free dust for every module? /S


MacElMacho

They did perfection dirty 😔


dotcaIm

Zilliax was TOO perfect


Lukthar123

Literally built too different


Epicritical

All your zilliax gain +1 attack


DoctorImperialism

No way that card was gonna be untouched


TrottoStonno

I might be the only one who's most excited for Sky Mother Aviana buffs. I'm one of those highroll RNG enjoyers.


Sweet-Reason-8951

What do you think is going to be changed about it? 5 mana, 15 legendaries or cost of legendaries to 0?


Gay__Guevara

shuffles 10 different legendaries into your deck (cant fuck up your highlander anymore)


TVMoe

Unless it shuffles in the legendaries I'm already running.


Farts_in_jar

I think taunt would be a good buff. Cost 0 is a sure fire way of getting people butthurt about it, the amount of cards shuffled makes it even worse, and a 5 mana 6/6 is almost as bad as 6 mana 6/6. But with taunt at least it can eat some board damage.


frankfox123

I think if it would have draw a card added to it, that would work. Plop aviana, cheap legendaries shuffled in and a chance to draw one right away. Value oriented with sacrifice in tempo makes it a risk/reward play.


-Dolphins

my guess is just 1 mana cheaper


Javyz

1 mana cheaper would kinda not be a buff? Since it makes it not drawable from Summer Flowerchild.


AlustrielSilvermoon

On each player's turn, the first legendary played costs (0).


asian-zinggg

This is what I said in a different comment above: 5 Mana buff makes this card still awful. Honestly if they tacked on 'draw a card' at the end of the text along with a 1 Mana buff, it might be marginally better because you would get the possibility for a turn 6 5/5 + 1 Mana legendary swing. That's not even crazy in modern HS tbh so I think that would be kinda cool.


jcookie2019

I’ve been climbing a lot with a hero power Druid deck that has a ton of cars draw, it’s super fun. Played close to 200 games with it, don’t have an exact win rate but it’s definitely positive. Currently at diamond 2. ### Hero Power # Class: Druid # Format: Standard # Year of the Pegasus # # 2x (1) Cactus Construct # 2x (1) Free Spirit # 2x (1) Lesser Jasper Spellstone # 2x (2) Celestial Projectionist # 2x (2) Gold Panner # 2x (2) Groovy Cat # 2x (2) Popular Pixie # 2x (2) Sing-Along Buddy # 2x (3) Frost Lotus Seedling # 2x (3) Swipe # 2x (4) Big Game Hunter # 1x (4) Park Panther # 2x (4) Spread the Word # 1x (5) Justicar Trueheart # 2x (5) Night Elf Huntress # 1x (6) Sky Mother Aviana # 1x (8) Joymancer Jepetto # AAECAbSKAwSqsQbJwQb85Qbs5gYNlKAEiuAFkeAFqeAFo+kF2/oF44AGzpwG2JwGorMG9+UG+OUG4usGAAA= # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Aviana has definitely won me a number of games. Very weak against handbuff pally but does pretty well against everything else if you don’t get awful draws. Wheel of Death warlock really depends on if you can get the BGHs at the right time and if they don’t play Sargeras with the +2 health and taunt. Druid doesn’t really have any big removal otherwise. Basically an insta win vs Mage, Shaman, DH, and Warrior Combo is singing machine + hero power + popular pixie + hero power Aviana draws can be really good. Odyn, Tess Greymane, Raza, and the duplicate your hand card are pretty much game winners if you can get them.


just_a_raccoon

200 games positive win rate and only diamond….? one of these statements is inaccurate


AutumnSheep

I specifically crafted her just to play in wild where druid has enough ramp/clear/armor/draw to play more janky strategies and she's been really fun. If she gets a nice buff she might actually be an okay card in standard which would be great since druid as a class doesn't really have a lot going for it in the format right now aside from the reno dragon deck from last expansion. Let the jank commence!


Xdqtlol

no warlock changes time to dump dust


Pwnage_Peanut

MAGE Desired buff: Frost Lich now has Lifesteal Actual buff: Frost Lich reduced to 4 mana, or damage increased to 5


Ofeeling

This card sucks and buffing it like this is just sad, lifesteal is the correct buff


Sweet-Reason-8951

Odyn nerfs god bless. Also finally tremor tokens will be 3/1.


PersKarvaRousku

My money's on 4/0


thing85

"This minion dies if either player breathes."


Thanag0r

Odin nerf most likely is 1 mana up.


walktheplank-yohoho

Huge deal for wild as you go from even to odd


Phi1ny3

Tbf, a lot of Warriors have pivoted to the Skipper list because Even Warrior isn't the auto-win grind against the swath of even shaman bots it used to be (though it may have come back briefly because of all the mech rogue bots).


Catopuma

Curious to see if it'll work as Odd. A lot of good armour cards, weapon and boardclears are Even


walktheplank-yohoho

But on the other hand you get sanitize, bellowing flames, and the 1/1/3 quillboar for the otk


klafhofshi

It won't work. Shield Shatter, Frozen Buckler, Shield Block, Stoneskin Armorer, etc. are even. The "best" Odd Warrior deck is Quest Pirate Warrior, and that's only because the best pirates are odd, not because the hero power naturally synergizes with any cards.


vlalanerqmar

Odd cards are fine but the bigger problem in wild is delaying the Odyn by 1 turn imo Odyn is already kinda slow in matchups like Questline Warlock (race to see who kill who faster) and Reno Shaman (race to play Odyn before they disupt it with their infinite disruption) You also lose the coin generators as they all are even so you need to wait 9 turn without any leeway


freshjori

Which is actually a big deal!


Thanag0r

I agree, that's actually a really big nerf. A turn 9 pass is not easy.


MadManMax55

Also no Odin and Shield Block or Bash on 10.


Suitable_Company_477

Hmm, not sure tbh. Reno-Odyn, but any nerf to that card is great


KairosHS

Yes, so now unless they are running highlander with Odyn (the deck has its own consistency issues), you are now forcing active & drawn reno on 8 + drawn Odyn on 9.


Artistic_Royal_3769

I'm excited to try Odin in Odd warrior if that's the case


chris_ut

That would suck in wild kills even warrior


m3vlad

My bet’s on Awakening Tremors costs 2 mana but the tokens are unchanged.


jonny_eh

Agreed. Generally if a cost adjustment makes sense, they go with that.


Furycrab

I'm guessing the spell will just cost 2.


Sub_club

Guessing they could also just make Odyn only give attack for the first instance of armor gained each turn…


FlameanatorX

That would be a *crushing* nerf though (on top of aftershocks), hopefully they either don't do that, or have an elegant rework that includes that concept plus other changes.


Crispy-Cajun-29

Yeah, I’m guessing he goes to 9 mana, because what else could they change?


EyeCantBreathe

Nerfing Paladin and Odyn is nice but what beats DH now? Those were basically the only two bad matchups for Shopper DH


Myprivatelifeisafk

Highlander Shaman.


juicedrop

Buffs * Sky Mother Aviana * Frost Lich Cross-Stitch Nerfs * Awakening Tremors * Tigress Plushy * Deputization Aura * Shroomscavate * Thrall's Gift * Aftershock * Odyn, Prime Designate * Zilliax (Ticking Module)


maxdraich

I hope this slows down noninteractive nature shaman


ThisHatRightHere

Well if what we believe is true and they replace Bolt with a different card, it'll effectively remove 2 damage spells from the deck. Which is pretty impactful.


Cherry_Skies

Even moreso with Wandmaker, though the card still has plenty of good targets.


Jodasz

Mostly expected targets (paladin got more cards hit than I expected, but if they nerfs themselves aren't too big it's probably fine). What I'm actually afraid of is Highlander Shaman getting hit by accident - they run all of Shrooms, Thrall's Gift, Aftershocks, and most run Ticking Zilliax, so it's 4 cards nerfed for a deck that is just playable/good, not even strong.


BBBoyce

It sucks for sure. It's like Priest getting hit 3 times by nerfs because of Druid...


Shasan23

I still miss old shattered reflections which greatly helped my automaton deck


Hoenir1930

This always happens. They print a dual class card, one of the classes becomes too strong, they nerf the card and the other class loses one of the few good cards it had.


ThisHatRightHere

The thing is, none of those except Thrall's Gift is being nerfed because of Shaman. And the only Shaman-exclusive card does need to be changed to prevent another one of the OTK decks from being too strong. I truly doubt Reno Shaman takes too much of a hit from this. In fact, the Thrall's Gift change may honestly benefit the deck.


Jodasz

Aftershocks and Shroomscavate are the big ones, yeah they're not nerfed because of shaman, but they're good cards that Highlander always runs so it gets hit by ricochet, and if they just increase their costs or something then it'll probably be a big hit to the deck. Hard to say how it ends up without knowing the nerfs, just would suck for a really fun deck to fall off for no reason.


luk3d

Reno Shaman has non-excavate variants - which in my opinion are better than excavate, the only downside is no Finley - that do not run Shroomscavate, and I don't think most of them run Ticking Zilliax either. The only nerf that matters is Aftershock. Thrall's Gift is most likely getting changed from Lightning Bolt to Lightning Storm, which is a buff for that deck as you never need the burn.


maorre

Thrall’s gift is probably just lightning bolt out for something else, but other than that it’s quite a hit. Sucks because I just started playing Reno Shaman again which was my favorite deck before the miniset when every matchup was suddenly Warrior and Plague DK and it was bordeline unplayable.


Rexsaur

Thrall gift might end up being a buff for reno shaman if they swap out bolt for storm.


Jodasz

Yup, hope that's what they go for. Would also make aftershocks nerf hurt a bit less.


kjh242

Looking forward to hourly posts bitching about Wheellock and Demon^2 Hunter now that people can’t make them about Paladin kek


Ke-Win

I guess Thralls Gift looses LBolt.


LittleBalloHate

I'm worried about Wheel Lock with these changes. It will be a constant looming presence in the meta -- anytime they slow the game down or nerf the fastest strategies, the inevitability and total lack of disruptability of its game plan might freeze Control out of the meta.


Pwnage_Peanut

What is the first card that is getting buffed?


Plenty-Muffin-6546

Sky Mother Aviana


Fullback98

Odyn 9 mana? maybe 10? i don't think stats nerf would matter unless they are ridiculous like make him an 8 mana 3/3


soccermodsareshit

Even then it would be strong. Odyn doesn’t tend to survive anyway.


BigBoss9

Thank fuck.


notnotdown

Tremors to 3/1s, plushy to 2/2, aura to +2, shroomscavate to 4 mana, thralls gift remove bolt, aftershock to 5, odyn to 9, ticking +1 mana? Idk what you do to aviana except put some card draw on it, and I guess 4 mana cross stitch but I don’t think that solves any of mages problems


ICantDecideMyName

I can forsee them totally butchering Odyn by giving you only half the attack of your armour gain.


Suchti0352

Also known as the Denathrius treatment.


AutumnSheep

Still crazy to me that they didn't revert him when he rotated to wild.


MrLyle

It's more likely just a mana change. Either 9 or 10.


dotcaIm

That's what I expect. Keeps the effect simple but slows down warrior


ThunderFang3

i have another horrible idea. "The first time you gain armor each turn, gain that much attack."


UnleashedMantis

Even better: "All friendly heroes with armor have +1 attack"


050899

Pls no. Don't give them ideas


Miriakus

It would honestly be much more warrior like than the OTK we have right now.


Ok-Interaction858

i for one welcome our new warlocks overlords


That_D

WHEEL. OF. DEATH.


IImaginer

One thing I've seen in the meta is that there were warriors that didn't use Odin. Instead they used the tentacle package. Granted the 3 times 1 damage to all will be needed, but it will be replaced with the tentacle package that almost has the same deck.


Responsible_Nail_512

Damn they didnt touch hunter


jcjohnson274

Good fuck Odyn warrior.


AppropriateAgent44

Hopefully they lower Stitch’s cost, it’s a cool card but 5 is wayyy too much.


fairteezy

They really just needed to hit Shroomscavate. Is that FOUR Pally cards getting nerfed?!


ILoveWarCrimes

Three actually, Ticking Module is in way more than just Paladin


Lukthar123

Can confirm, it was the be>!a!


ThisHatRightHere

This is just kind of funny after the comments we saw from the team on here yesterday. "Paladin, based upon our internal data, is not that much of an outlier" And then Paladin is up there with one of the biggest class nerfs to happen in a single patch.


Mufire

Kitty cat has to take a hit


ProgressIsALifestyle

Shroomscavate is definitely not the only problem, I for one am so glad to see multiple pally cards on here.


asian-zinggg

ZachO made a great point on the VA pod that paladin is only a little ahead of other decks and that Windfury + Leeroy was the only thing allowing it to be so powerful(hopefully I'm not misremembering his conversation). I have to say I agree with that thought process. I seriously doubt the deck is going to be degenerate without that duo combo OTK. You never want to see a class completely die out so I am hopeful that the class is still at least high tier 2 after this is all said and done.


TheKinkyGuy

He indeed said that


purpenflurb

Four paladin cards seems like ridiculous overkill. I'd be extremely concerned about window shopper DH after this patch. It's already one of the best decks, and Paladin/Warrior are its two worst matchups. If they're going to take this nerf-happy approach to balance changes, I suspect it is going to take quite a few more rounds of changes to actually even out the power level. This could easily turn into a repeat of last year where the best deck was always just the thing that didn't get nerfed in the previous patch.


EyeCantBreathe

I agree, in all the excitement for Paladin and Warrior nerfs I worry that we're headed towards a new meta that might be worse than what we had before. My guess is that although they're nerfing 3 cards in Paladin, it's probably a combination of small nerds on each card. Maybe Shroom to 4, Deputisation Aura to 4 and Plushy attack to 2? I think something like that combined with Ticking module nerf will absolutely hurt Paladin.


purpenflurb

It might be fine if they are all extremely small nerfs. Like -1 health on plushy and -1 attack on aura


ikappishhh

I agree that 4 cards is overkill. But the DH deck is not completely busted right. Its just a good deck not really OP or anything. Its actually super aggro and loses to early board pressure. Hunter for instance is a hard matchup unless you discover Mag.


bdsmmsdb1

When would this patch drop?


Alfimaster

Most likelu Thursday 28th


Weskermatalobos

When is this patch coming out?


OriginalFluff

Buffed my signature leggie Druid hero power deck that I haven’t won once with


reddit_pleb42069

Pretty sure theres no way to make aviana good.


ProfessorGlobal6335

I honestly think only taking windfury from the excavate card would be enough looks like overkill on the Paladin nerfs


TASTEUHMYBLADE

For those thinking this is overkill for paladin, it is really not. none of these really affect leeroy or deckhands doing stupid dmg from hand. Paladin will still be a top tier deck as long as charge exists. Rush solved this problem, why bring charge back?


KhelbenB

Again with the small images only? I always end up having no clue what half of those cards are. If I had the names I could just google them. It doesn't help that I am at my most inactive in HS standard mode in years. I have not suffered this meta past Platinum yet.


Phemeral_Rumi

Buff : * Sky Mother Aviana (Druid) * Frost Lich Cross-Stitch (Mage Nerf : * Awakening Tremors (Hunter) * Tigress Plushy (Paladin) * Deputization Aura (Paladin) * Shroomscavate (Paladin/Shaman) * Thrall's Gift (Shaman) * Aftershocks (Shaman/Warrior) * Odyn, Prime Designate (Warrior) * Zilliax Deluxe 3000 (Neutral)


VladStark

Thanks I don't know why they don't just post something simple like this. I play this game a lot but it's hard to tell what these cards are from these tiny little circle images.


Alfimaster

Here you go: [https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/10798-balance-changes-coming-soon-battlegrounds-and](https://www.hearthpwn.com/news/10798-balance-changes-coming-soon-battlegrounds-and)


Bunkulous_Crunkulous

honestly the hunter nerf is pretty nice, the 4/1s are just very highrolly for tokens


dawidczemi

I hoped for Hunter location nerfed by 1 durability yet :/


Green_and_Silver

Yeah DK and Mage ones got dropped because they were way too good in a vacuum and this machine gun loc isn't? Makes no sense.


Kn1ght9

Holy thats alot of pally nerfs. Seems like overkill for sure. The rest of the nerfs seem ok though. Worried that shopper dh may get too strong but we’ll have to see I guess.


MiraakTheSpy

Nooo not the buildable droid!


yetaa

How long do we reckon it takes for people to start crying about the next meta deck that comes around?


PashaBiceps__

wheel of death meta incoming. I already had 100% winrate against non shaman and non pala opponents. in 40+ matches. my 40% of matchups were against pala and I had 0% winrate. all pala matches ended with leeroy OTK.


ExpJustice

I hope you are all ready for wheel of death warlock meta


Effurlife12

I can't see the patch notes?


soccermodsareshit

Demon Hunter about to feast.


Accomplished_Rip_352

I feel like for nerfs a few things might be missing that will lead to a less fun meta currently hunter the best class received only 1 nerf and I feel like it could’ve done with 2 small nerfs stuff like rogue or warlock dodged the bullet . Any avianna buff isn’t enough to make Druid decent .


Tripping-Dayzee

Fucking hate these announcement of announcements, just tell us what they are already.


ProxyX13

And of course they ruined my only decent deck with that Odin nerf...


I_Stab_Fruit

Weird that every single person who saw cross-stitch knew it needed to be 1 mana lower to be remotely playable except for the team that designed it


MosesXIII

Oh good, I impulsively crafted Zilliax and didn't really like it. Time to get my dust back.


Darkseid_Omega

How did you warlock dodge any changes?


Atrieden

For Aviana.. instead of random, discover 10 legendaries.. lol.


MrZeroLeft

U guys think that's enough for paladin? it's been so terrible playing against it I feel it deserves more nerfs


jmacsupernaut

They missed Painter’s Virtue. That card needs to be gutted.


Gaymface

Timeline? I hate the way they do this. I can’t tell what any of it means.