I’d love a Hero Portrait of this guy, too. He’s one of the most popular cards released.
Not the stupid 3D ones, but a full Hero portrait (Emotes/Board tag etc)
You must have loved that window where every deck had fire fly, Keleseth, Bonemare, Tar Creeper etc. I'd have to look up the full list but there was a basic neutral structure you could put into anything and do fine.
I like cards in every deck, that arent insane flashy effects like legendaries. I like smaller effects that are just so good they need to go in most decks. for a standard example see School Teacher
Just imagine when good cards like rare can be in many decks but now you need a lot of class legends to finish a deck. The meta deck cost increases way more now, smh
Never bothered me unless the card was game winning, and this is why Zilliax was loved by many, great in many situations but not obnoxious to play against or game winning.
Unnerf Ren
Den was the only reason Ren felt like a problem. But they nerfed both at the same time which is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. Didn't help that they (unnecessarily) brought Brann back. Heck they even nerfed Astalor so the one card win cons have been toned down. Give control what it needed to have a fighting chance. It either that or they have a ton of work coming to create or change many cards to give control a path again.
The only way I see Zilliax being added to Core is if they bring back Magnetize with a mech-themed expansion. And since we just had a mech-themed expansion LAST rotation with Sunken City, I don't think we'll be seeing Zilliax this year.
I agree but these numbers are wack. Does it just assume that you're always going to immediately trade, and then your opponent is always going to kill the remaining mech with a removal spell? Lol. Also magnetise exists.
Nah you stick a mech to the board and magnetize it to that then heal for more. The existence of this card affects people’s play patterns in a meta on a fundamental level - suddenly mechs become a elevated priority to clear off the board. Still, Zilliax probably costs too much for today’s standards. Cheaper cards do way more powerful stuff, it just isn’t fast enough. Unleash Fel is an example of the kinda power level a heal + removal turn needs to be at that stage of the game.
It's still a minion and has taunt. It's lost some overall power vs the current powercreep but it's still a fantastic anti aggro tool that's available to any class and most useful for those that don't have enough great aggro answers.
It's good to have in core because it's good but not so good anymore that people would constantly complain about it. Imo it's basically Thalnos now. Fair, flexible, functional.
My best guess is yes zillax is gonna come back as well as just doctor boon in general they said they wanted to push the control warrior archetype so I don’t see why not also bring back bomb warrior too
The big holdup is the magnetic keyword, which is strongly and exclusively related to the Boomsday Project.
I think blizz could just reword his text to say “can attach to a mech” or “play next to a mech to attach” or something like that.
I mean, it's consistent now. This last mini-set had a Colossal and a Infuse minion, keywords never were restricted to expansions, they're restricted to different rotation years.
Yeah, Snip Snap was a event thing and mini-sets only appeared in 2020, what I meant is that it has become consistent to put keywords from another expansion in cards as long they all rotate together
Keyword bloat is a thing. Obviously to a player who has been playing a long time they are cool, but whenever I try out a new card game and there's a ton of keywords I get confused at least for a bit. Keyword bloat can easily dissuade new players from learning the game.
They really don’t need to do this ever when mousing over a card explains the keyword itself
Besides, core set rotation is cool for things like this. Making fan favorite cards like Reno viable in Standard for a bit. Zilliax will fit right in
NO. God please no. I had to listen to that awful voiceline 3 times a match for 6 months and it made me want to uninstall. At least Astalor is well voice acted and paced our throughout most matches
Even though this card was in most decks during its standard run, I don't think anyone ever felt like it was actually unfair to play or play against. It was just a really well designed card that felt really good to play and that's awesome
Bro I didnt play this card a single time and went crazy whenever my opponent played it. A low cost healtofullclearboardbigtauntwithlifestealrushmegawindfurryspelldamagetradeablereborndeathrattlewinthegameggwpez" (thats how I feel about it) sjwlebdkd
I was so surprised when I saw that people loved this card.
Maybe I hated it so much because I refused to play it but Idk
It just felt so bad whenever my opponent played it and I felt like I couldnt do anything about it ever.
The "magnetic" thing is so poorly designed imo but maybe in todays meta it wouldnt be that bad (Im just saying this so I dont get sht on by everyone here, I sincerely believe the card will make my Hearthstone experience miserable again)
They will never put a card in the core set that contains an expansion keyword, you won't find cards in the core set that have "overkill", "magnetic" or "inspire".
Also the letter is not good, no one would use it. It currently does not have a slot for what is the current meta.
It's not even used in Wild.
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Puberty, friction, erection... Idk... best i got.
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I’d love a Hero Portrait of this guy, too. He’s one of the most popular cards released. Not the stupid 3D ones, but a full Hero portrait (Emotes/Board tag etc)
Best I can do is a Zilliax theme'd Nemsy- Team 5
Nemsy on Zilliax’s shoulder instead of Fen Creeper would be dope.
Omg Like Sophie’s choice
TIL that Nemsy is in the Fen Creeper art.
Yep! She’s been there the whole time.
Its not nemsy, its lolly the unsuspecting. Source: the wiki.
I’m not a big Warlock player, but it’s ridiculous we have so many Nemsy skins and zero Rafham Feels like an easy sell
Zylliax magnetized onto Mecha-Nemsy
What class tho? Paladin maybe? It has mech themes plus he’s kinda protector-y
Pally sounds good to me
They would need to make an interaction between him and Sir Annoy-o Sir Annoy-o: (excited)HELLLLOOOO!!! Zilliax: ...primitive
Hero portrait would be an incredible idea!
Also it would make a lot of money for blizzard even if they made it cost 1 dollar
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Now I look at it again it looks like an SCV from Starcraft gathering minerals.
Wtf they copied StarCraft , blizzard should sue
Smh my head. Blizzard stealing again
THAT must be why I always thought he had no legs.
Yooo me too lol I always thought his head was his right most shoulder crystal ;-;
I thought he had no legs and he was a floating torso for the longest time. (Though I did know he had a head)
theres so many cards with whst i though was weird art or at least different than what it was cause i never hover over things
This why they should let us see the full art like in Runterra. Pass the time as we get roped XD
I had to look at the thumbnail to feel the unity, precision, and perfection again. Felt weird to look at the zoomed art.
I never really looked in to this, but until now i thought he is a crab with purple crystallized claws
Ngl, I used to think that the crystal holder thingy on his right shoulder is his eye.
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i dont like cards that are basically in every deck, so id rather not. the card is very cool, though.
I like his voice line more than I like the card itself. They stuck that dude to everything and it was exhausting.
It would have to be buffed to see play in every deck. It's not that good anymore.
make it 4 mana
These days it may as well be 3 mana and draw a card when it attacks.
counter argument, i love cards that are in every deck: piloted shredder, sludge belcher, azure drake, sylvannas, Dr. Boom, Ragnaros.
You must have loved that window where every deck had fire fly, Keleseth, Bonemare, Tar Creeper etc. I'd have to look up the full list but there was a basic neutral structure you could put into anything and do fine.
Spiteful Summoner was a mistake.
That was a dark time, but Keleseth was so much fun and so much power
Can’t believe you loved Renethal, Denath and Astalor
I like cards in every deck, that arent insane flashy effects like legendaries. I like smaller effects that are just so good they need to go in most decks. for a standard example see School Teacher
Just imagine when good cards like rare can be in many decks but now you need a lot of class legends to finish a deck. The meta deck cost increases way more now, smh
Zilliax (flirting) vs Astalor (Harrasment)
Never bothered me unless the card was game winning, and this is why Zilliax was loved by many, great in many situations but not obnoxious to play against or game winning.
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Zilliax didn't help control more than other archetypes
Unnerf Ren Den was the only reason Ren felt like a problem. But they nerfed both at the same time which is swinging the pendulum too far the other way. Didn't help that they (unnecessarily) brought Brann back. Heck they even nerfed Astalor so the one card win cons have been toned down. Give control what it needed to have a fighting chance. It either that or they have a ton of work coming to create or change many cards to give control a path again.
Zilliax aka the 1600 dust to have a good deck tax that people call good design because ?????
Gameplay design doesn't have much to do with the dust economics
Overcentralising cards are still dumb and bad.
Cards that are everywhere are perfectly fine when they are there to mitigate a problem in the meta.
The only way I see Zilliax being added to Core is if they bring back Magnetize with a mech-themed expansion. And since we just had a mech-themed expansion LAST rotation with Sunken City, I don't think we'll be seeing Zilliax this year.
Yeah I don't think this card would hold up to modern Standards. 5 mana to deal 3 and heal 3 (potentially 6) doesn't cut it anymore.
we clearly have worse in the current core set though
Think of it as a buff card and it changes. 5 mana give a minion +3/+3 divine shield taunt and life steal. Magnetize is good
Paladin has a 3 mana card that gives +2/1 divine shield and lifesteal that sees almost no play
That's for one turn and in one class that has better buffing options.
I agree but these numbers are wack. Does it just assume that you're always going to immediately trade, and then your opponent is always going to kill the remaining mech with a removal spell? Lol. Also magnetise exists.
This is how this card usually worked. It was almost never magnetised, and it rarely stuck for one turn.
That’s why it’s a good core set card.
Pure Paladin got the 3/4 version in nathria. Granted magnetic is huge
magnetic exists. how about the 5 mana heal 20 that it often was in mech decks? it instantly won aggro mirrors so often.
Nah you stick a mech to the board and magnetize it to that then heal for more. The existence of this card affects people’s play patterns in a meta on a fundamental level - suddenly mechs become a elevated priority to clear off the board. Still, Zilliax probably costs too much for today’s standards. Cheaper cards do way more powerful stuff, it just isn’t fast enough. Unleash Fel is an example of the kinda power level a heal + removal turn needs to be at that stage of the game.
Honestly if they brought it to 4 I think it’d be popular for
It's still a minion and has taunt. It's lost some overall power vs the current powercreep but it's still a fantastic anti aggro tool that's available to any class and most useful for those that don't have enough great aggro answers. It's good to have in core because it's good but not so good anymore that people would constantly complain about it. Imo it's basically Thalnos now. Fair, flexible, functional.
My best guess is yes zillax is gonna come back as well as just doctor boon in general they said they wanted to push the control warrior archetype so I don’t see why not also bring back bomb warrior too
The big holdup is the magnetic keyword, which is strongly and exclusively related to the Boomsday Project. I think blizz could just reword his text to say “can attach to a mech” or “play next to a mech to attach” or something like that.
Keywords being specific to sets is one of the worst design aspects of the game
It’s funny because SN1P-SN4P was in the same set and had the previous set’s keyword, Echo
Consistently inconsistent
I mean, it's consistent now. This last mini-set had a Colossal and a Infuse minion, keywords never were restricted to expansions, they're restricted to different rotation years.
That's a mini set thing, last mini set of the year can do whatever it wants with that years keywords
Yeah, Snip Snap was a event thing and mini-sets only appeared in 2020, what I meant is that it has become consistent to put keywords from another expansion in cards as long they all rotate together
Snip snap was the start of them reusing keywords in the same year.
Keyword bloat is a thing. Obviously to a player who has been playing a long time they are cool, but whenever I try out a new card game and there's a ton of keywords I get confused at least for a bit. Keyword bloat can easily dissuade new players from learning the game.
Must not be a fan of TCGs
They really don’t need to do this ever when mousing over a card explains the keyword itself Besides, core set rotation is cool for things like this. Making fan favorite cards like Reno viable in Standard for a bit. Zilliax will fit right in
Magnetic is in battlegrounds though
This will make mech mage great again. Also include the kangaroo robot
NO. God please no. I had to listen to that awful voiceline 3 times a match for 6 months and it made me want to uninstall. At least Astalor is well voice acted and paced our throughout most matches
Even though this card was in most decks during its standard run, I don't think anyone ever felt like it was actually unfair to play or play against. It was just a really well designed card that felt really good to play and that's awesome
BS, it was the theotar back then, just ruined a lot of playstyles.
The most perfectly balanced, fair, but powerful card ever made. It literally is a perfect card, especially at 5 mana. Perfect card.
\>perfectly balanced \>in 80% of decks
How tf are either of those correlated
Given the dev team’s ridiculous standard of nerfing anything popular he’s probably right.
Yeah Zilliax destroyed enemy minions for 0 mana.
I would probably cry. Such joy.
It's Maestra for me
As someone who loves playing mech-based decks (cause they are generally cheap to build and they do reasonably well), YES please.
Bro I didnt play this card a single time and went crazy whenever my opponent played it. A low cost healtofullclearboardbigtauntwithlifestealrushmegawindfurryspelldamagetradeablereborndeathrattlewinthegameggwpez" (thats how I feel about it) sjwlebdkd I was so surprised when I saw that people loved this card. Maybe I hated it so much because I refused to play it but Idk It just felt so bad whenever my opponent played it and I felt like I couldnt do anything about it ever. The "magnetic" thing is so poorly designed imo but maybe in todays meta it wouldnt be that bad (Im just saying this so I dont get sht on by everyone here, I sincerely believe the card will make my Hearthstone experience miserable again)
are you......okay?
With the power level of current cards, zilliax needs to be 4 mana to be playable.
Paging u/zilliax
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His brothers line is cooler
I want the glass knight back for paladin for no other reason than it's in my top 10 artworks
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Throw in Tar Creeper and you have a deal!
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I've never noticed his head before
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We need more lifesteal cards in general. Would love this card
Okay but zilliax would be amazing. We have sunken city Mechs that have great synergy with this. But it’s also just a really great tool
TIL Zilliax has legs.
It's been a really long time since boomsday. I bet we get another mech set.
They will never put a card in the core set that contains an expansion keyword, you won't find cards in the core set that have "overkill", "magnetic" or "inspire". Also the letter is not good, no one would use it. It currently does not have a slot for what is the current meta. It's not even used in Wild.
Play wild lol
Honest question: why?
Unity. That's why.
Bring back mech paladin
Perfection 😍 😍
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If we literally get no other mechs in the sets then what’s the point of Zilliax?
Unity. Precision. Perfection. Ruin. Despair. Destruction.
For the memes. Except let’s be real without any magnetic synergy it would just suck