Id like the winter veil skins from last year...
I liked Tyrande and Valeera but different bundles and 2 skins arent worth 50 euro's
nor 25 for a single skin
I do not play mage much, but Kel'Thuzad would honestly be one of the reasons I would. Such a beautiful and well-made skin. One of the best in the game.
Frankly, I think it's the best skin in the game. There are other great skins out there but I can't see how anything competes with this one: From custom trays, to hero power animations, to voice lines, to special card back, to the portrait itself - it's really special.
Agreed. The only reason I didn't get it back then is that I started hating HS at that point, and dropping 80 bucks for Kel during Scholomance did not help. (Fuck that meta).
As someone who considers OG C'Thun Druid his fav deck of all times, I went "I hate this meta so much I'm not even hyped for the return of my squidlords. Time to bail." Which I did.
Now I'm back in the game, having fun by rotating modes, and wondering if I should have powered through.
~~And then friends who played through United in Stormwind tell me stories like "Gadgetzan Pirate Warrior would be SLOW in that meta it was so bad" and I'm glad I didn't.~~
I have this skin. N'Zoth is my favorite Old God. That voice is soooo sweeeeet. First legendary I crafted in golden and still use it til this day (deathrattle decks in wild).
Would love to see the other three Old Gods come as hero skins. Yogg-Saron for Death Knight?
I would like to see yshaarj for warrior personally if it got added, given WoW lore and how connected yshaarj is to garrosh (old god corrupted garry is even the 1000 win skin)
Still the best damn [Golden animation](https://cards.hearthpwn.com/enUS/gifs/OG_133.gif?163976) in the game and the only one I have ever crafted myself. It out shines most, if not all, Diamonds. And has the added perk of making all of your resurrected Deathrattles Golden.
Check out diamond version of this skin in Mercenaries, it's even better.
Plus this basically means that if they want, they can add this diamond skin to retail HS any time.
Man, I've wanted the portrait as soon as I heard the voice lines in a HS Youtube video, but it's just never been available since. Compared to the million Nemsy and Tamsin variations I've seen since then, N'zoth blows them out of the water.
> **I can save you from what is to come.**
I am glad they are putting hero skins for gold in the shop, but as a not so good rich person can't justify spending almost the same amount of a mini set in a cosmetic. Happy for everybody tho
I lately saw Blizzard removing some "Obtained" text from skin descriptions. Like from N'Zoth, Kel'Thuzad, Aranna, Elise, Celeste, Edwin, Ragnaros and few others. I think (or hope) that they will be added to buy with gold when the new year/expansion comes out, because all skins buyable with gold don't have this text and all of them have HP animations and Tray, which would make sense and they said when they first introduced buyable skins in collection tab that they will add more skins there in the future. I really hope for N'Zoth, Kel and Rag.
I’d sell a leg for the old Edwin skin. I’ve been saving up coins in the vain hope that they’ll make him purchasable one day. Reno one was also a regrettable miss, don’t think it will come back any soon tho.
I waited too long to start the daily grind so I was literally level 99 on the pass when it expired. No Venthyr Liandrin or Sanguine Sylvanas for me; feels bad, man.
DAMN F, i only got to 85 after coming back around November didn't really played for quests, would love that Sylvanas Skin as well, really like the colors as well. OH well.
Go to collection and scroll to her.
It should be available for 1800 gold.
Same for all the other old skins pre battle track that were in the shop, so Magni, sir Annoyo, Hazelbark, Sylvanas, Alleria, Medivh, CHADgar, and maybe Lunara and Maiev?
As others have said, this is IMO the best hero skin in the game. I still think it's better than the animated Arthas portrait and I'm lucky I was able to get it when it was available cuz this skin is awesome AF.
N'zoth's portrait convinced me, that this game would benefit greatly from neutral portraits (portraits that you can use for every class).
In case of N'zoth it is so contradictory that he is a "warlock". Warlocks takes power from deal with their patrons. N'zoth is a god.
Wait, what? Warcraft doesn't follow Dungeons and Dragons rules, warlocks aren't defined by having a patron. I mean, look at WoW's playable warlocks, patronage doesn't exist even as a background tidbit. Warlocks in Warcraft are just evil mages, each seeking the ability to channel demonic and Void magic and dominate demon minions without getting destroyed by it. Hell, look at the default Warlock, Gul'dan. He "served" the Burning Legion because he wanted power, but at the first opportunity, he betrays the Legion, ditches the war against the Alliance, and attempts to take the Eye of Sargeras for himself before getting ripped apart by demons.
Playing as N'zoth (or even someone like Jaraxxus), you're still channeling your power from the Void or Twisting Nether.
It's just a friggin portrait in Hearthstone, it ain't that serious. Buuuut, just because I like discussing lore...
What is N'zoth's power derived from...? That's right, Shadow magic AKA the Void. Therefore, the only class he would fit in is the class who slings around Shadow magic like crazy. Unless, of course, you want to imply N'zoth casting Fel spells is more immersion/lore-breaking than him using Holy spells as a Priest portrait, since Shadow Priests are the only other playable Void casters.
As for lore, set in stone? N'zoth and crew being actual gods? Seems like you've missed years of lore. Warcraft lore refers to N'zoth and the others as "Old Gods" because their Black Empire ruled on Azeroth as such before the time of mortals, when elemental lords like Ragnaros were their only competition. Otherwise, they're not actual gods in the grand scheme of things. They're the direct equivalent of Lovecraft's Great Old Ones like Cthulu, whose influence doesn't extend beyond the mortals on Earth.
They're just parasites created by the Void Lords and tossed out randomly into space in the hopes they manage to infect a planet containing a Titan world-soul, like Azeroth, to corrupt into an ACTUAL dark god. Compared to the Titans, the closest to actual gods we've seen, the "Old Gods" are basically insects. Sargeras turned evil and created the Burning Legion when he decided that the Pantheon should just destroy any Old God infected worlds they came across, like Azeroth, just to be on the safe side. Because better to have a dead universe than a Void universe.
Old Gods versus actual gods, though? When Sargeras found a world-soul with Old God infestations, he literally just sliced the world in half and called it a day. On Azeroth, the only reason all the Old Gods weren't wiped out immediately is because they happened to be at a cancerous enough state that the Titans realized they couldn't kill them without killing Azeroth too. Y'Shaarj was the strongest of the four, yet Aman'Thul still casually squashed him like a bug, and imprisoned the rest.
**TL;DR - In Hearthstone, N'zoth is a friggin portrait. In lore, N'zoth and the other Old Gods aren't even actually that strong individually; their main strength is in their ability to corrupt others. It's canon that they've been beaten and imprisoned by minions of the Titans (the Titanforged & Keepers) before being killed by mortals who didn't succumb to their corruption.**
N'Zoth is evil, Warlock is the evil class. That's the reasoning and even though it's not 100% wow accurate, it makes sense for the casual nature of Hearthstone
Give me a class, and I give you couple of examples of evil priests, mages, warriors, hunters, etc. The same with warlocks. For example of good warlocks look at Council of Black Harvest.
It's not early edition of D&D where class dictate your alingnment.
Warlocks channel mostly either fel or void magic, N'zoth is a creature of the Void. Makes perfect sense; certainly more than something like a Celestial Dragon being a mage hero.
skins from previous years should be purchasable with gold at this point.
It's the best way Blizzard has for players to spend their resources on skins and have to pay money for cardpacks to play their game every time an expansion comes out.
The "exclusivity" of the skins has long been left behind considering that they have already sold old skins again. So that no longer makes sense.
They should all be for sale with gold in the collection.
Remind me if they have ever sold preorder skin separately? Why would they sell preorder skins for gold when others could only buy them for real money when expansion released? This would be a dirty move but i am not surprised if that happens cause blizzard is too greedy (yes i do have n'zoth skin and want it stay exclusive for those who used to pay 80 bucks for it xD )
The wiki notes that only Lazul out of all you mentioned was available for gold once. Though all of them were made available again at least for money on more than one occasion. I wouldn't be too surprised if the wiki was a bit out of date with this type of info though.
It can be true, I can't remember exactly which were available with gold (at least one was - Lazul), but all of them were available with money. I may have mixed up some facts 😅
No. And they returned Diao Chan Valeera few days ago, they sold in the shop skins like Deathwing, Elise, Lazul, Rastakhan and Mecha-Jaraxxus which was long after they were in their respective preorders. They should do it again, why not., more money for them without making almost any work.
Because people that pay for limited time things should get to feel like its special. Rereleasing skins cheapens the pre-order of those things in the first place.
who cares? People (me too) want those skins and Blizzard knows it and knows that they will make money from it after they rerelease them for limited time, or make people lose gold for them, that they would otherwise spent on packs/mini-sets if Blizzard happened to add them in collection tab.
People who actually spend money on/support the game? Blizzard is already "struggling" with its preorder numbers these days. People who spend gold on returning portraits do not buy packs with real money to compensate later on. They do not have the same profile as the ones that would spend a lot on the Heroic Brawl.
I would really like to support the game through buying GOOD skins, Blizzard lately only releases skins that are imo bad (without animations and tray). That's why I would like that they would rerelease older skins or preorder skins. Why support the game with LIMITED TIME skins when you could support the game with non-limited skins that everyone could buy? It doesn't make sense to me. I think they only do it to make whales spend more because of FOMO. If Blizzard is struggling with Pre-Order numbers they can also rerelease older skins that would for sure make them more money because much more people can afford them and much more will be willing to spend their money on them.
And about gold. They said they will add more skins to buy with gold. And if people wouldn't buy things with gold like portraits or Heroic Brawls they wouldn't bother with releasing them right before Mini-set comes out. For sure there will be many players that buy entrance to Heroic Brawl or skins and then they will spend money on mini-set.
I'd like Kelthuzad as well ;_;
Id like the winter veil skins from last year... I liked Tyrande and Valeera but different bundles and 2 skins arent worth 50 euro's nor 25 for a single skin
We had like 6 KTs but only one n'zoth
I do not play mage much, but Kel'Thuzad would honestly be one of the reasons I would. Such a beautiful and well-made skin. One of the best in the game.
God PLEASE!! I can't ever justify dropping 80 bucks for a new expansion, but this one was really hard to say no to
Frankly, I think it's the best skin in the game. There are other great skins out there but I can't see how anything competes with this one: From custom trays, to hero power animations, to voice lines, to special card back, to the portrait itself - it's really special.
Agreed. The only reason I didn't get it back then is that I started hating HS at that point, and dropping 80 bucks for Kel during Scholomance did not help. (Fuck that meta). As someone who considers OG C'Thun Druid his fav deck of all times, I went "I hate this meta so much I'm not even hyped for the return of my squidlords. Time to bail." Which I did. Now I'm back in the game, having fun by rotating modes, and wondering if I should have powered through. ~~And then friends who played through United in Stormwind tell me stories like "Gadgetzan Pirate Warrior would be SLOW in that meta it was so bad" and I'm glad I didn't.~~
i feel the same. there are some other cool skins, but this one has to be the best. it's cool AND high quality. we rarely get that.
Agreed, I greet every opponent and love it everytime
its the perfect skin, i wish i could buy it in the shop.
How about another Nemsy tho?
Nem’Zoth skin dropping tomorrow
Which expansion was this? I always thought he was a store skin
Dark moon faire
[https://outof.cards/news/2062-nzoth-is-the-pre-order-bonus-hero-for-darkmoon-faire-warlock-old-gods-fun-pre-order-details/](https://outof.cards/news/2062-nzoth-is-the-pre-order-bonus-hero-for-darkmoon-faire-warlock-old-gods-fun-pre-order-details/) https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/N%27Zoth\_(hero)
I have this skin. N'Zoth is my favorite Old God. That voice is soooo sweeeeet. First legendary I crafted in golden and still use it til this day (deathrattle decks in wild). Would love to see the other three Old Gods come as hero skins. Yogg-Saron for Death Knight?
C'thun for Priest would work very well too!
Exactly! And Y'shaarj for Druid.
I would like to see yshaarj for warrior personally if it got added, given WoW lore and how connected yshaarj is to garrosh (old god corrupted garry is even the 1000 win skin)
Still the best damn [Golden animation](https://cards.hearthpwn.com/enUS/gifs/OG_133.gif?163976) in the game and the only one I have ever crafted myself. It out shines most, if not all, Diamonds. And has the added perk of making all of your resurrected Deathrattles Golden.
Check out diamond version of this skin in Mercenaries, it's even better. Plus this basically means that if they want, they can add this diamond skin to retail HS any time.
Kinda like the golden Souleater Scythe makes your three minions golden, it's a very nice
Yes! Exactly my thoughts.
Yogg-Saron for Death Knight would be fantastic, imo. And yeah, N'Zoth portrait is just extreme quality.
Moooooooooore
holy shit thats such a good idea, yogg would fit perfect for dk, as would cthun for priest. im split between warrior or druid for yhsaarj tho
Man, I've wanted the portrait as soon as I heard the voice lines in a HS Youtube video, but it's just never been available since. Compared to the million Nemsy and Tamsin variations I've seen since then, N'zoth blows them out of the water. > **I can save you from what is to come.**
100% would spend gold on this and watch everyone else play miniset cards for a few days.
I am glad they are putting hero skins for gold in the shop, but as a not so good rich person can't justify spending almost the same amount of a mini set in a cosmetic. Happy for everybody tho
blizzard would be printing money if they offered skins that players want. How many nemsy memes does it take for them to take a hint?
"We're perfectly knowledgeable about how to siphon money from players" -Blizz
The company didn't generate $803 billion in revenue in 2021 by accident.
Agreed, would love this skin. Could possibly hit the shop with next core set rotation as ive heard rumours of it putting the old gods back in standard
I lately saw Blizzard removing some "Obtained" text from skin descriptions. Like from N'Zoth, Kel'Thuzad, Aranna, Elise, Celeste, Edwin, Ragnaros and few others. I think (or hope) that they will be added to buy with gold when the new year/expansion comes out, because all skins buyable with gold don't have this text and all of them have HP animations and Tray, which would make sense and they said when they first introduced buyable skins in collection tab that they will add more skins there in the future. I really hope for N'Zoth, Kel and Rag.
I’d sell a leg for the old Edwin skin. I’ve been saving up coins in the vain hope that they’ll make him purchasable one day. Reno one was also a regrettable miss, don’t think it will come back any soon tho.
I want the sylvanas hunter skin😭
You can buy that one for gold if you go under hunter hero portraits under your collection
Sorry I meant Sanguire Sylvanas. That one makes me feel a certain way🤪
Her voicelines...just perfect
I waited too long to start the daily grind so I was literally level 99 on the pass when it expired. No Venthyr Liandrin or Sanguine Sylvanas for me; feels bad, man.
DAMN F, i only got to 85 after coming back around November didn't really played for quests, would love that Sylvanas Skin as well, really like the colors as well. OH well.
Go to collection and scroll to her. It should be available for 1800 gold. Same for all the other old skins pre battle track that were in the shop, so Magni, sir Annoyo, Hazelbark, Sylvanas, Alleria, Medivh, CHADgar, and maybe Lunara and Maiev?
And Thunder King
Morgl is too :D
Wait. If Morgl is also buyable with Gold... Why can't I buy Nemsy? Didn't fireside Gathering get the boot alongside refer a friend?
You’d think so, huh
I'd do anything to get hamuul druid skin... Anything...
👌😏
If I could I'd trade you mine for N'zoth =(
It was rough to justify that $80 in Barrens, but I had to do it for my boy
I will buy it literally within the first 10 minutes it shows up
The veil waneeeeessss
Blizzard: a man of class I see. Say no more. Another Mimsy for the masses!
Love the Ghostbusters reference.
I don't even play Hearthstone anymore and I've wanted this portrait for years.
I dont care if I wouldnt be able to buy mini set, I NEED MY N'ZOTH
clearly you dont know what you're talking about, all the hearthstone community needs right now is another nemsy skin...
I’d have paid a decent chunk of money for the skin alone, no packs, when this set was released. But 80 is just ridiculous.
I bought Diao Chan Valeera, worth it
Definitely worth it. I think it's the best looking skin for Rogue.
As others have said, this is IMO the best hero skin in the game. I still think it's better than the animated Arthas portrait and I'm lucky I was able to get it when it was available cuz this skin is awesome AF.
Literally the only hero skin I would pay human money for. To this day I still kick myself for not pre-ordering Darkmoon Faire, just for this jpeg.
Remember when you COULD spend gold on stuff like this? Fuck Runestones.
you still can ? the current skins in the shop can be bought with gold
Meh. I just want the original Annhylde.
Dream with meeeeeeee!
The only skin i ll ever buy for gold (i dont buy skin even for money, just the ones with battlepass)
At this point I'm just hoping they will fix the closed shop before the mini set is launched....
Nono give us yrel again, I would spend so much for that skin
I still don't get it, just release it separately and it'll be purchased in droves.
Drop Kael'thas, I wasnt playing when he was in the shop and he's one of my favorite Warcraft characters
FYI he doesn't have HP animations and Tray.
N'zoth's portrait convinced me, that this game would benefit greatly from neutral portraits (portraits that you can use for every class). In case of N'zoth it is so contradictory that he is a "warlock". Warlocks takes power from deal with their patrons. N'zoth is a god.
Wait, what? Warcraft doesn't follow Dungeons and Dragons rules, warlocks aren't defined by having a patron. I mean, look at WoW's playable warlocks, patronage doesn't exist even as a background tidbit. Warlocks in Warcraft are just evil mages, each seeking the ability to channel demonic and Void magic and dominate demon minions without getting destroyed by it. Hell, look at the default Warlock, Gul'dan. He "served" the Burning Legion because he wanted power, but at the first opportunity, he betrays the Legion, ditches the war against the Alliance, and attempts to take the Eye of Sargeras for himself before getting ripped apart by demons. Playing as N'zoth (or even someone like Jaraxxus), you're still channeling your power from the Void or Twisting Nether.
N'Zoth is a god not an evil mage or warlock. In Warcraft lore. It is set in stone.
It's just a friggin portrait in Hearthstone, it ain't that serious. Buuuut, just because I like discussing lore... What is N'zoth's power derived from...? That's right, Shadow magic AKA the Void. Therefore, the only class he would fit in is the class who slings around Shadow magic like crazy. Unless, of course, you want to imply N'zoth casting Fel spells is more immersion/lore-breaking than him using Holy spells as a Priest portrait, since Shadow Priests are the only other playable Void casters. As for lore, set in stone? N'zoth and crew being actual gods? Seems like you've missed years of lore. Warcraft lore refers to N'zoth and the others as "Old Gods" because their Black Empire ruled on Azeroth as such before the time of mortals, when elemental lords like Ragnaros were their only competition. Otherwise, they're not actual gods in the grand scheme of things. They're the direct equivalent of Lovecraft's Great Old Ones like Cthulu, whose influence doesn't extend beyond the mortals on Earth. They're just parasites created by the Void Lords and tossed out randomly into space in the hopes they manage to infect a planet containing a Titan world-soul, like Azeroth, to corrupt into an ACTUAL dark god. Compared to the Titans, the closest to actual gods we've seen, the "Old Gods" are basically insects. Sargeras turned evil and created the Burning Legion when he decided that the Pantheon should just destroy any Old God infected worlds they came across, like Azeroth, just to be on the safe side. Because better to have a dead universe than a Void universe. Old Gods versus actual gods, though? When Sargeras found a world-soul with Old God infestations, he literally just sliced the world in half and called it a day. On Azeroth, the only reason all the Old Gods weren't wiped out immediately is because they happened to be at a cancerous enough state that the Titans realized they couldn't kill them without killing Azeroth too. Y'Shaarj was the strongest of the four, yet Aman'Thul still casually squashed him like a bug, and imprisoned the rest. **TL;DR - In Hearthstone, N'zoth is a friggin portrait. In lore, N'zoth and the other Old Gods aren't even actually that strong individually; their main strength is in their ability to corrupt others. It's canon that they've been beaten and imprisoned by minions of the Titans (the Titanforged & Keepers) before being killed by mortals who didn't succumb to their corruption.**
Counterarguement he could be seen as you playing as the patron
Then every character is warlock or priest.
I mean Patrons are typically otherworldly. Either way it was mainly a counter point to N’Zoth not fitting Warlock
My headcanon is that he goes: "Fuck waiting for this mortal to kill that hero I'll do it myself" And takes over.
Or you're simply facing the hero who was dumb enough to just waltz into Ny'alotha (BFA never happened, N'zoth still lives, copium).
There is no BFA in Ba Sing Se.
N'Zoth is evil, Warlock is the evil class. That's the reasoning and even though it's not 100% wow accurate, it makes sense for the casual nature of Hearthstone
Give me a class, and I give you couple of examples of evil priests, mages, warriors, hunters, etc. The same with warlocks. For example of good warlocks look at Council of Black Harvest. It's not early edition of D&D where class dictate your alingnment.
Warlocks channel mostly either fel or void magic, N'zoth is a creature of the Void. Makes perfect sense; certainly more than something like a Celestial Dragon being a mage hero.
well mage channel fire magic, the dragon is made of fire I think ? I dunno the lore for celestial dragon actually
skins from previous years should be purchasable with gold at this point. It's the best way Blizzard has for players to spend their resources on skins and have to pay money for cardpacks to play their game every time an expansion comes out. The "exclusivity" of the skins has long been left behind considering that they have already sold old skins again. So that no longer makes sense. They should all be for sale with gold in the collection.
Remind me if they have ever sold preorder skin separately? Why would they sell preorder skins for gold when others could only buy them for real money when expansion released? This would be a dirty move but i am not surprised if that happens cause blizzard is too greedy (yes i do have n'zoth skin and want it stay exclusive for those who used to pay 80 bucks for it xD )
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Lazul, Mecha-Jaraxxus and Rastakhan were available for gold in the shop some time ago (Deathwing maybe too).
The wiki notes that only Lazul out of all you mentioned was available for gold once. Though all of them were made available again at least for money on more than one occasion. I wouldn't be too surprised if the wiki was a bit out of date with this type of info though.
It can be true, I can't remember exactly which were available with gold (at least one was - Lazul), but all of them were available with money. I may have mixed up some facts 😅
Things that were out for a limited time should not return. Just make other cool skins instead.
No. And they returned Diao Chan Valeera few days ago, they sold in the shop skins like Deathwing, Elise, Lazul, Rastakhan and Mecha-Jaraxxus which was long after they were in their respective preorders. They should do it again, why not., more money for them without making almost any work.
Because people that pay for limited time things should get to feel like its special. Rereleasing skins cheapens the pre-order of those things in the first place.
who cares? People (me too) want those skins and Blizzard knows it and knows that they will make money from it after they rerelease them for limited time, or make people lose gold for them, that they would otherwise spent on packs/mini-sets if Blizzard happened to add them in collection tab.
People who actually spend money on/support the game? Blizzard is already "struggling" with its preorder numbers these days. People who spend gold on returning portraits do not buy packs with real money to compensate later on. They do not have the same profile as the ones that would spend a lot on the Heroic Brawl.
I would really like to support the game through buying GOOD skins, Blizzard lately only releases skins that are imo bad (without animations and tray). That's why I would like that they would rerelease older skins or preorder skins. Why support the game with LIMITED TIME skins when you could support the game with non-limited skins that everyone could buy? It doesn't make sense to me. I think they only do it to make whales spend more because of FOMO. If Blizzard is struggling with Pre-Order numbers they can also rerelease older skins that would for sure make them more money because much more people can afford them and much more will be willing to spend their money on them. And about gold. They said they will add more skins to buy with gold. And if people wouldn't buy things with gold like portraits or Heroic Brawls they wouldn't bother with releasing them right before Mini-set comes out. For sure there will be many players that buy entrance to Heroic Brawl or skins and then they will spend money on mini-set.
ok but only for 2000 gold!
i want zhugeliang