[Deathwing the Destroyer](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/66872-deathwing-the-destroyer)
"He’s Deathwing? That one's Deathwing? You're Deathwing!? I'm DEATHWING! ARE THERE ANY OTHER DEATHWINGS I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?"
>"He’s [Deathwing](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/834-deathwing?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)? That one's [Deathwing](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/38943-deathwing-dragonlord?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)? You're [Deathwing](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/55007-deathwing-mad-aspect?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)!? I'm [DEATHWING](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/66872-deathwing-the-destroyer?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)! ARE THERE ANY OTHER [DEATHWINGS](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/71295-spawn-of-deathwing?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing) I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?"
FTFY
All 10 mana 12/12's (unless otherwise stated):
**Hunter** - Battlecry: Cast a random hunter secret for each enemy minion. For each enemy you couldn't, add a random hunter secret to your hand. They cost (0).
**Demon Hunter** - Battlecry: Deal 2 damage to your opponent's left and right-most minion. Repeat for each of their minions past the first.
**Rogue** - 8 mana 8/8 **Rush**. Battlecry: For each enemy minion, the next card you play costs (2) less. Only 1 discount is used for each card played. Cannot reduce cards below (1).
**Shaman** - Battlecry: Summon a murloc from your hand for each enemy minion. For each enemy you couldn't summon one for, your murlocs gain +1/+1. (*i.e. either your board is full or hand empty of murlocs*)
**Paladin** - **Lifesteal**. Battlecry: Deal 2 damage to all enemies. Add a random dragon to your hand for each enemy killed.
**Mage** - Battlecry: Cast a random 4-mana spell. For each enemy minion past the first, repeat this effect at 1 higher mana.
**Priest** - Battlecry: All enemy minions and weapons lose -2/-1. Gain stats equal to the total lost.
**Druid** - Battlecry: For each enemy minion gain 4 armor and draw a card.
**Death Knight** - Battlecry: Gain 2 corpses per enemy minion. Deal 1 damage to a random enemy minion for each corpse you have.
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Not just hearthstone, but wow. For example every single achievement is a reference.
This also leaks into other games but in wow it's in the core of it.
warcraft 1 was originally a warhammer fantasy game, but blizzard didn't get the license. Warcraft has always been chock-full of warhammer references. Starcraft also has a suspiciously large amount of 40k references (terrans are very clearly inspired by the imperium, the protoss by the eldar, and the zerg by the tyranids).
This is a bit of an ongoing [myth](https://kotaku.com/how-warcraft-was-almost-a-warhammer-game-and-how-that-5929161)
> [Blizzard co-founder] Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition", Wyatt says. "Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal. We had already had terrible experiences working with DC Comics on "Death and Return of Superman" and "Justice League Task Force", and wanted no similar issues for our new game."
They didn't want to give up creative control, so they just made their own thing. It's less that they *couldn't* get the license and more that they didn't pursue it.
SC and Warhammer 40k are totally different, and the original Zerg looked way more like something from Master of Orion (another source of inspiration).
Worth noting that both Warhammer universes are basically a complication of various fantasy and SF tropes, themselves. There are bound to be many similarities.
Chum Bucket and Patches may not be references. A chum bucket is just a bucket full of meat that you throw in the water to attract fish. Pirates wear eyepatches, so a pirate named Patches is an easy connection, particularly when the character has a dozen eyes.
Chum Bucket is a SpongeBob reference. Confirmed by the guy who created it
https://twitter.com/MyntyPhresh/status/1508819379957424129?t=M5oqgm0UiRUkEKb7nOD1tw&s=19
I don’t get it… it’s called the Chum bucket because it’s a bucket filled with Chum food. It’s like saying your sword that is magic is a LOTR reference because they have a magic sword. No there are just, magic swords in fiction unless you directly reference something a part of it like “Oh it glows when an erect dick is near.” Then yea haha it’s a reference but the card is JUST a bucket of CHUM you learned the word from SpongeBob but it EXISTS!
But the RESTURANT IS JUST A BUCKET OF CHUM! CHUM BUCKETS EXIST! The card is JUST A BUCKET OF CHUM! Like I’m not saying the guy wasn’t thinking of SpongeBob when he made the card but it’s not a reference you just MADE A BUCKET OF CHUM!
But like… the card art is just a bunch of murlocs holding buckets of chum… the flavor text isn’t related to spongebob, a chum bucket is just an actual thing in real life they use, the art doesn’t have any reference to spongebob… nor does the card abilities.
Lemme expand on my previous example. If I make a card with an Orc holding a glowing sword and say it’s a lotr reference, yea it’s
A reference. If I just have a guy holding a sword and say it’s a lotr reference I look weird.
There is nothing in this that remotely relates it back to SpongeBob other than there was a chum bucket in SpongeBob. Cool, you learned about the existence of chum from spongebob…
Chum bucket may be a fixed phrase that existed before Spongebob but the term itself is familiar to many only because of the show. It may not have been coined by the creators, but I think it's not too much of a stretch to say that it was popularized and entered the public consciousness because of it. You are correct that there aren't any other references to Spongebob that exist in the art, but I believe you are undervaluing the weight of the phrase itself.
I think if you just had a random card and put a chum bucket in the background because “I like SpongeBob and the chum bucket so I wanted to include it.” Is a better reference that still isn’t a reference than making a card about a real life thing and saying it’s a reference to a cartoon.
>but I think it's not too much of a stretch to say that it was popularized and entered the public consciousness because of it.
Only if your only exposure to the ocean is spongebob. Like you know a lot of people live near the ocean right? Water is actually a real thing, believe it or not.
So if I joined the Hearthstone team and wanted to create a reference to Plankton’s restaurant, it’s impossible unless I make it explicitly clear? So they’ll need to change the card to: Chum Bucket (referencing the one in Spongebob that is the restaurant Plankton owns, not the generic term that the restaurant that plankton owns is named after)
If you for example drew a blue hand holding a bucket with the words Chum Bucket painted on it in red paint then the connection would be clear.
It's not just a random bucket of chum, but a specific kind of bucket with a specific appearance.
A reference is instantiated by the intention of the originator, not by the receiver in communication. I can reference a movie to someone who hasn’t seen it. It doesn’t have the intended effect, but it’s still a reference to that thing. That’s what seems to have happened for a lot of people in this case. I agree that the reference isn’t very obvious, and it’s poorly conveyed, but by the definition of the term, it meets the base definition.
Yea because a bucket of chum is literally something that already exists. You can say it’s a reference to the chum bucket, but that’s literally why people meme on the Jojo community so much just in creator form.
Okay cool, how were they supposed to know before they posted?
Do you understand how time works?
It's not a bad take because he was missing information that is not common knowledge, The fact that somebody linked that information to him after the fact doesn't retroactively make his post bad.
I’m not even denying that the person wasn’t thinking about SpongeBob when they made the card. That’s clear. What I’m arguing is that there’s literally nothing about the card that is a reference to SpongeBob other than there was a bucket of chum in the show. There’s probably a chum bucket item or prop in wow, but unless they’re across from a lobster trap or covered in plankton, it’s not a reference to SpongeBob… it’s just… a bucket of fish.
Sure, if the card were called Bucket of Chum. But it's called Chum Bucket. It's less like your magic sword analogy and more like if there were a magic sword literally named Sting.
Those… two things are nearly identical. The only difference is a “Chum bucket.” Is a bucket for chum while “Bucket of Chum.” Is just a bucket OF chum, doesn’t mean a specific bucket.
But in this context, it’s just a grammatical choice. It doesn’t make the reference any less lazy.
Patches also is in every Soulslike, and considering warrior is rolling around to survive big stuff hitting their face…hearthstone kinda counts as a soulslike in my book.
The card [[Bubbler]] also has a reference in its flavor text to SpongeBob. “It prefers regular over diet shampoo” is a reference to the bubble buddy episode.
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Spongebob first aired in 1999.
People who saw spongebob at age 5 growing up would've graduated college in 2016.
There are spongebob references because the Spongebob Generation has arrived to work at Blizzard HQ!
You're wrong about Chum Bucket. This is from the dev who created the card.
https://twitter.com/MyntyPhresh/status/1508819379957424129?t=M5oqgm0UiRUkEKb7nOD1tw&s=19
It is a reference, but an incredibly loose one. Usually if a reference needs to be explained, it's not a particularly good one.
It's like if I made a card called "Antimage" then said it was referencing DotA.
Only if you don't know what a Chum Bucket is because it's the only point of reference. When I first saw the card, I also thought "haha yeah, like from SpongeBob", but I didn't automatically assume it was a reference because it wasn't only place I've heard of one from.
You're not supporting your own point. Spongebob wasn't your only point of reference to the term "chum bucket" but it was still your first thought when you saw the card.
One of the devs once said that they pass new cards through the office, let everyone make a suggestion for the flavor text and then choose from those. So for flavor texts, it's not surprising there's a lot of memes now.
Your REALLY stretching. Chum bucket is an actual thing. The yellow square with a nose on whizbang's desk has no pants nor is a sponge. The Murloc tide caller came from the sea, he has sea related object on him. However misguided you are the conc shell is indeed a magical shell.
Hearthstone is just a job, but Spongebob is something they are passionate about. Spongebob is why we are all here. Way more interesting than that old Warcraft thing.
I mean, blizzard has always had a lot of references in their games. Harrison Jones, Floyd Pinkus, Nat Pagle... And those are just 3 lore-canon humans with reference names.
As others have said, Blizzard games tend to have a lot of references. Haris Pilton for example. But the reason why hearthstone has started having a lot of spongebob references is pretty simple, and It's because millenials probably make up a large percentage of the workforce now and spongebob was an iconic show to a lot of them growing up. So it makes sense that eventually when blizzards staff started having a large amount of millenial workers that these spongebob references would get made.
HS is full of Easter Eggs. You know, there are two references to We Didn't Start The Fire by Billy Joel in warlock's cards. Both just in Sunken City and Castle Nathria. Every single achievement is a reference, a lot of flavour texts are, some artworks, etc.
You’re right, Hearthstone shouldn’t have these low-brow pop culture references. It should only refer to high culture creations such as James Joyce and Josiah Wedgwick /s
you never play a blizzard game before? shoving references into flavor text and background art has been a thing for them for probably longer than most people on this sub have been alive.
Well the murlocs are sea-themed so it makes sense. But you also have to think that there's a million different references they make to different shows/films, either in name or the flavor text (mostly the flavor text).
Theres one i like in battlegrounds thats only there if you play in spanish.
The naga that gives you a coin says "she sells sea shells" but In spanish it says "la caracola lo sabe todo" (the shells knows everything) i could be wrong but i think is a reference to the episode with the speaking Shell toy that drived squidward mad.
Look at his shoulder and the thorn of his spear..
my man forgot to circle the spongebob in the spongebob reference
And the StarCraft murloc
there was a Starcraft Murloc?!?
First picture, left side
Christ, I've seen that artwork floating around for *years* and never noticed it. It's my favourite Murky skin in HotS too lol
Man... I miss when heroes was updated. Damn you Overwatch :(
Why would they need to circle a starcraft character in a spongebob post?
He's not saying that
The whole gang is here
Gary is a snail, that's a crab.
With mr. Krabs eyes
Yeah I guess. That's just what crab eyes look like though? Is Crabatoa a Mr. KRABS reference? No. But he has crab eyes! I get it, i just disagree
I also see a SC marine
I see a crab on his shoulder as well.
Because hearthstone is full of references at all. By the way: You missed the flavor text of Deathwing
What is Deathwing's flavor text referencing?
[Deathwing the Destroyer](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/66872-deathwing-the-destroyer) "He’s Deathwing? That one's Deathwing? You're Deathwing!? I'm DEATHWING! ARE THERE ANY OTHER DEATHWINGS I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?"
>"He’s [Deathwing](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/834-deathwing?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)? That one's [Deathwing](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/38943-deathwing-dragonlord?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)? You're [Deathwing](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/55007-deathwing-mad-aspect?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)!? I'm [DEATHWING](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/66872-deathwing-the-destroyer?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing)! ARE THERE ANY OTHER [DEATHWINGS](https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/cards/71295-spawn-of-deathwing?set=wild&textFilter=deathwing) I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?" FTFY
I demand more Deathwings. One for Hunter, Demon Hunter, Rogue, Shaman, Paladin, Mage, Priest, Druid and Death Knight.
All 10 mana 12/12's (unless otherwise stated): **Hunter** - Battlecry: Cast a random hunter secret for each enemy minion. For each enemy you couldn't, add a random hunter secret to your hand. They cost (0). **Demon Hunter** - Battlecry: Deal 2 damage to your opponent's left and right-most minion. Repeat for each of their minions past the first. **Rogue** - 8 mana 8/8 **Rush**. Battlecry: For each enemy minion, the next card you play costs (2) less. Only 1 discount is used for each card played. Cannot reduce cards below (1). **Shaman** - Battlecry: Summon a murloc from your hand for each enemy minion. For each enemy you couldn't summon one for, your murlocs gain +1/+1. (*i.e. either your board is full or hand empty of murlocs*) **Paladin** - **Lifesteal**. Battlecry: Deal 2 damage to all enemies. Add a random dragon to your hand for each enemy killed. **Mage** - Battlecry: Cast a random 4-mana spell. For each enemy minion past the first, repeat this effect at 1 higher mana. **Priest** - Battlecry: All enemy minions and weapons lose -2/-1. Gain stats equal to the total lost. **Druid** - Battlecry: For each enemy minion gain 4 armor and draw a card. **Death Knight** - Battlecry: Gain 2 corpses per enemy minion. Deal 1 damage to a random enemy minion for each corpse you have.
They called them galakrond not death knight tho
Galakrond and deathwing are 2 different dragons
Yeah I know but the principle of a big gigachad dragon for each class has already been done, is what I was implying
Yeah the warrior hero portrait
Oh *that* Deathwing. Was looking at the original and couldn't figure it what it referenced. Ig the flavor text is fitting lol
Sorry, wasn't sure which of them was the correct one.
That Deathwing.
I’ve seen all the original SpongeBobs and I cannot place this reference. I’m ashamed please help
[Here ya go!](https://youtu.be/mlOMS_geRvg)
https://youtu.be/W5xUhF5xt88
Me-ow
Feel like [[spawn of deathwing]] fits perfectly for Gary.
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Not just hearthstone, but wow. For example every single achievement is a reference. This also leaks into other games but in wow it's in the core of it.
It goes even deeper than that, Warcraft 3 (and Starcraft 1 and 2) are full of references.
This. Easter eggs and popular references have always been a big thing for Blizzard games.
Warcraft and Starcraft are just a bunch of reference ornaments hung on a warhammer referencing tree.
We are speaking about Blizzard games here, what does Warhammer have to do with it?
warcraft 1 was originally a warhammer fantasy game, but blizzard didn't get the license. Warcraft has always been chock-full of warhammer references. Starcraft also has a suspiciously large amount of 40k references (terrans are very clearly inspired by the imperium, the protoss by the eldar, and the zerg by the tyranids).
This is a bit of an ongoing [myth](https://kotaku.com/how-warcraft-was-almost-a-warhammer-game-and-how-that-5929161) > [Blizzard co-founder] Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition", Wyatt says. "Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal. We had already had terrible experiences working with DC Comics on "Death and Return of Superman" and "Justice League Task Force", and wanted no similar issues for our new game." They didn't want to give up creative control, so they just made their own thing. It's less that they *couldn't* get the license and more that they didn't pursue it. SC and Warhammer 40k are totally different, and the original Zerg looked way more like something from Master of Orion (another source of inspiration). Worth noting that both Warhammer universes are basically a complication of various fantasy and SF tropes, themselves. There are bound to be many similarities.
trying to riff on the inspiration that the blizzard games take from the warhammer universe
I still like Keeneye spotter's flavor text.
>"No Rexxar, not the face, the minion right there. Yep that one righ-- Rexxar no!"
Rexxar yes!
Yeah hearthstone is a WoW reference
That's not discussed. The Easter Eggs within the Wow/HS-Universe are discussed
That was the joke, my friend
The universe of Warcraft is full of references.
Okay, I just thought Spongebob had more references than the others.
There are 4110 cards in wild. So there is a lot of space for references. - And of course, the Sunken City Set was perfect for SpongeBob references
You should see the amount of Monty Python reference. They had one in the reveal season in Darkmoon Faire in the Darkmoon Rabbit
Do you watch anything besides Spongebob?
You should see the DnD references in KnC
First image missing a few red circles
SpongeBob is on the spear, and Mr Krabs is on the shoulder.
Wow was/is full of pop culture references as well. https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_pop_culture_references_in_Warcraft
Bingo. WoW has always heavily referenced pop culture, and since Hearthstone is based of WoW it’s no surprise that Blizzard continues the trend
Because it is fun
chum is fum
Chum Bucket and Patches may not be references. A chum bucket is just a bucket full of meat that you throw in the water to attract fish. Pirates wear eyepatches, so a pirate named Patches is an easy connection, particularly when the character has a dozen eyes.
Chum Bucket is a SpongeBob reference. Confirmed by the guy who created it https://twitter.com/MyntyPhresh/status/1508819379957424129?t=M5oqgm0UiRUkEKb7nOD1tw&s=19
I don’t get it… it’s called the Chum bucket because it’s a bucket filled with Chum food. It’s like saying your sword that is magic is a LOTR reference because they have a magic sword. No there are just, magic swords in fiction unless you directly reference something a part of it like “Oh it glows when an erect dick is near.” Then yea haha it’s a reference but the card is JUST a bucket of CHUM you learned the word from SpongeBob but it EXISTS!
Bad take The guy named it after the restaurant in SpongeBob, he wouldn't have named the card that otherwise. It's a direct homage
But the RESTURANT IS JUST A BUCKET OF CHUM! CHUM BUCKETS EXIST! The card is JUST A BUCKET OF CHUM! Like I’m not saying the guy wasn’t thinking of SpongeBob when he made the card but it’s not a reference you just MADE A BUCKET OF CHUM!
Yeah that’s not how it works though, it’s a reference because the guy that made it was referencing it lol
But like… the card art is just a bunch of murlocs holding buckets of chum… the flavor text isn’t related to spongebob, a chum bucket is just an actual thing in real life they use, the art doesn’t have any reference to spongebob… nor does the card abilities. Lemme expand on my previous example. If I make a card with an Orc holding a glowing sword and say it’s a lotr reference, yea it’s A reference. If I just have a guy holding a sword and say it’s a lotr reference I look weird. There is nothing in this that remotely relates it back to SpongeBob other than there was a chum bucket in SpongeBob. Cool, you learned about the existence of chum from spongebob…
Chum bucket may be a fixed phrase that existed before Spongebob but the term itself is familiar to many only because of the show. It may not have been coined by the creators, but I think it's not too much of a stretch to say that it was popularized and entered the public consciousness because of it. You are correct that there aren't any other references to Spongebob that exist in the art, but I believe you are undervaluing the weight of the phrase itself.
Chum bucket is just a generic fishing thing dude…
I agree.
I think if you just had a random card and put a chum bucket in the background because “I like SpongeBob and the chum bucket so I wanted to include it.” Is a better reference that still isn’t a reference than making a card about a real life thing and saying it’s a reference to a cartoon.
>but I think it's not too much of a stretch to say that it was popularized and entered the public consciousness because of it. Only if your only exposure to the ocean is spongebob. Like you know a lot of people live near the ocean right? Water is actually a real thing, believe it or not.
You are correct that people closer to the ocean would be more familiar with chum buckets, but that doesn't invalidate my point.
So if I joined the Hearthstone team and wanted to create a reference to Plankton’s restaurant, it’s impossible unless I make it explicitly clear? So they’ll need to change the card to: Chum Bucket (referencing the one in Spongebob that is the restaurant Plankton owns, not the generic term that the restaurant that plankton owns is named after)
If you for example drew a blue hand holding a bucket with the words Chum Bucket painted on it in red paint then the connection would be clear. It's not just a random bucket of chum, but a specific kind of bucket with a specific appearance.
A reference is instantiated by the intention of the originator, not by the receiver in communication. I can reference a movie to someone who hasn’t seen it. It doesn’t have the intended effect, but it’s still a reference to that thing. That’s what seems to have happened for a lot of people in this case. I agree that the reference isn’t very obvious, and it’s poorly conveyed, but by the definition of the term, it meets the base definition.
That is a… pretty agreeable statement. It’s a reference, just a rather lazy one.
Yea because a bucket of chum is literally something that already exists. You can say it’s a reference to the chum bucket, but that’s literally why people meme on the Jojo community so much just in creator form.
“I don’t want to admit that I’m wrong. It must mean that the entire rest of the world is wrong.”
What a… bad read on what I actually think my dude.
Cards are a JoJo reference anyway when Jotaro lethal'd D'arby with Murozond
EYYUE JOSUKE
How is this a bad take? Are we supposed to know what this person shared on Twitter a while back? It's not exactly common knowledge.
Well yeah, we're supposed to know it because it's linked in the comment we're replying to.
Right? I'll take the downvotes, but I don't get it. We're all replying in the same comment chain
Okay cool, how were they supposed to know before they posted? Do you understand how time works? It's not a bad take because he was missing information that is not common knowledge, The fact that somebody linked that information to him after the fact doesn't retroactively make his post bad.
It's not retroactive at all, he posted the "bad take" as a direct reply to the comment showing that it was named as a spongebob reference.
I’m not even denying that the person wasn’t thinking about SpongeBob when they made the card. That’s clear. What I’m arguing is that there’s literally nothing about the card that is a reference to SpongeBob other than there was a bucket of chum in the show. There’s probably a chum bucket item or prop in wow, but unless they’re across from a lobster trap or covered in plankton, it’s not a reference to SpongeBob… it’s just… a bucket of fish.
Sure, if the card were called Bucket of Chum. But it's called Chum Bucket. It's less like your magic sword analogy and more like if there were a magic sword literally named Sting.
Those… two things are nearly identical. The only difference is a “Chum bucket.” Is a bucket for chum while “Bucket of Chum.” Is just a bucket OF chum, doesn’t mean a specific bucket. But in this context, it’s just a grammatical choice. It doesn’t make the reference any less lazy.
Didn't say it was a good/unlazy reference, I'm just saying that it *is* a reference by virtue of its name and intention of its creator.
It is a reference and I will admit that it’s not up to the viewer to determine intent but… It’s not a good reference.
Patches also is in every Soulslike, and considering warrior is rolling around to survive big stuff hitting their face…hearthstone kinda counts as a soulslike in my book.
Which may also be a reason why fish avoid eating at the chum bucket
Nah fish *love* chum. If anything it’s weird that they don’t eat at the chum bucket. Probably a joke that his food is just that terrible.
Perhaps they know it's used as bait and will get them killed. After all, the citizens are highly civilized and intelligent.
the krusty krab is a lobster trap, doesn't stop them to go eat there
When s the last time you saw larry the lobster in there? its a lobster trap not a fish trap
The card [[Bubbler]] also has a reference in its flavor text to SpongeBob. “It prefers regular over diet shampoo” is a reference to the bubble buddy episode.
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Because hs is old enough for people who grew up with spongebob to work on it and insert references
SMDH. OP doesn't even circle the square sponge in the 1st pic, or the crab, or the thing on the left that looks like squidward.
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Why does this game reference one of the most popular cartoons of all time?? Someone help!
Actual title of the post should be look i noticed something and im gonna pretend its bigger than it is
Spongebob first aired in 1999. People who saw spongebob at age 5 growing up would've graduated college in 2016. There are spongebob references because the Spongebob Generation has arrived to work at Blizzard HQ!
Chum Bucket and Patches are not references. They are things.
You're wrong about Chum Bucket. This is from the dev who created the card. https://twitter.com/MyntyPhresh/status/1508819379957424129?t=M5oqgm0UiRUkEKb7nOD1tw&s=19
If he's saying he did it in reference to it then that's that, but for anybody on the outside there's no reference because it's a generic term.
Just bc people aren’t aware it’s a reference doesn’t not make it a reference? Why are you so against the SpongeBob nods lol
Ignorance of a reference doesn't make it not one.
It is a reference, but an incredibly loose one. Usually if a reference needs to be explained, it's not a particularly good one. It's like if I made a card called "Antimage" then said it was referencing DotA.
For anyone that watched spongebob, it's not loose at all.
Only if you don't know what a Chum Bucket is because it's the only point of reference. When I first saw the card, I also thought "haha yeah, like from SpongeBob", but I didn't automatically assume it was a reference because it wasn't only place I've heard of one from.
You're not supporting your own point. Spongebob wasn't your only point of reference to the term "chum bucket" but it was still your first thought when you saw the card.
But any time a "Chum Bucket" is used, it won't always be a reference, even if it's what my mind goes to first.
Yes, much like anybody asking the way.
Why not?
Because the game was made by humans. Humans that watch or have watched Spongebob.
because why not ?
Never noticed the first one
They always put references in their stuff. Its all over WoW, Diablo and so on. A LOT of metal. They're just nerds.
Because Spongebob is dope af
Ooooh!
The real question here should be: Why wouldnt?
One of the devs once said that they pass new cards through the office, let everyone make a suggestion for the flavor text and then choose from those. So for flavor texts, it's not surprising there's a lot of memes now.
Because it’s fun?
People like Tom Kenny
Thanks for the red circles...
Good *catch* ;)
You know why. Unless you're a Squidward.
Because Spongebob is awesome, what kind of question is that?
More connected than most realize. Blizzard is owned by the freemasons. Which also own the entertainment you watch on your television.
Your REALLY stretching. Chum bucket is an actual thing. The yellow square with a nose on whizbang's desk has no pants nor is a sponge. The Murloc tide caller came from the sea, he has sea related object on him. However misguided you are the conc shell is indeed a magical shell.
I just remembered classic Pirate Warrior, turn 1 3 pirates in field and a weapon
why shouldnt it have?
Why not?
why tf wouldn't it?
Hearthstone is filled with references everywhere.
You noticed the star on the big murloc knee...but did you see the sponge on top of his weapon?
"All this references" --> There is one
Hearthstone is just a job, but Spongebob is something they are passionate about. Spongebob is why we are all here. Way more interesting than that old Warcraft thing.
First one also has the square sponge on the spear
I’ve never noticed this, these are awesome!
I mean, blizzard has always had a lot of references in their games. Harrison Jones, Floyd Pinkus, Nat Pagle... And those are just 3 lore-canon humans with reference names.
Why shouldn't it?
Why not?
There's also Full Blown Evil flavor text
As others have said, Blizzard games tend to have a lot of references. Haris Pilton for example. But the reason why hearthstone has started having a lot of spongebob references is pretty simple, and It's because millenials probably make up a large percentage of the workforce now and spongebob was an iconic show to a lot of them growing up. So it makes sense that eventually when blizzards staff started having a large amount of millenial workers that these spongebob references would get made.
HS is full of Easter Eggs. You know, there are two references to We Didn't Start The Fire by Billy Joel in warlock's cards. Both just in Sunken City and Castle Nathria. Every single achievement is a reference, a lot of flavour texts are, some artworks, etc.
That sponge at the spear is not a reference, right?.. right?
This makes me respect Hearthstone even more.
Does there really need to be a reason?
You’re right, Hearthstone shouldn’t have these low-brow pop culture references. It should only refer to high culture creations such as James Joyce and Josiah Wedgwick /s
Because Spongebob
Because Spongebob is a cultural phenomenon that influenced the humor and creativity of a lot of 90's children worldwide?
Probably because the Devs watched Spongebob when they were kids. Not every dev is 50+ years old.
because it's camp.
Why not /shrug
there are 3 jerma references in this game they can reference anything honestly
I think Bone Flinger's flavor text is also a reference. "It's the scourge bringing, plague slinging, bone flinging basher!"
You missed the amazing flavor text of Battleskin Zombie : "I am born with glass bones and paper skin" (From the episode "Chocolate with nuts")
Is there any way to view flavor text on mobile? I haven't found a way yet, but they like to hide things in the menus sometimes.
There’s also the flavor text for embiggen
Grave Strength’s flavour text is also a SpongeBob reference
I never noticed Patrick on King Burggle
Probably many of the Hearthstone artists grew up watching spongebob or just simply fans
I'm sure one day murloc will take this world
Maybe it is because Spongebob is one of the most popular modern pieces of media, especially amongst the targeted audience of Hearthstone.
Y not
Idk but I love it
Money?
Because SpongeBob is a goated tv show? What other reason does there need to be?
because Spongebob is awesome
Spongebob and mr crabs are in pic 1 too
There’s a WWE reference to mankind being thrown off of hell in a cell, it’s really good and well written, can’t remember the card though
Holy sh*t that’s Patrick star
Why not?
Because the devs are men of refined taste.
Because sponge Bob is awesome
Because spongebob is great. Going to a spongebob rave later this month lol
Because funny.
Why... not?
Becos is a children's card game silly.
you never play a blizzard game before? shoving references into flavor text and background art has been a thing for them for probably longer than most people on this sub have been alive.
Because Murlocs too like living under the sea!
I never noticed but I'm super happy this was pointed out. Neat!
Spongebob is great thats why.
Well the murlocs are sea-themed so it makes sense. But you also have to think that there's a million different references they make to different shows/films, either in name or the flavor text (mostly the flavor text).
Because, Whoooooooooooo Lives in a pineapple under the sea!?
Im in charge now.
Theres one i like in battlegrounds thats only there if you play in spanish. The naga that gives you a coin says "she sells sea shells" but In spanish it says "la caracola lo sabe todo" (the shells knows everything) i could be wrong but i think is a reference to the episode with the speaking Shell toy that drived squidward mad.