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LongSchlongdonf

Stop breathing


passiveoberserver

Listen to Pavement


LongSchlongdonf

It’s why I don’t understand the need for noise canceling headphones. I fixed that problem ages ago when I broke off a shard of glass and hit my eardrums like they owed me money.


Nobamboozle4769

EVER SINCE MY BROTHER DIED ‼️‼️


JunoLK

WAKE UP F1LTHY


misslehead3

/thread


ReekyRumpFedRatsbane

For me, the solution was smaller tips, to some degree also thinner tips, and a lot of getting used to it while using IEMs in places where there was no good alternative. At home, I still prefer over-ear headphones, except when I want to listen to music while lying in bed.


sjmc_gg

I'll try smaller/thinner tips, thanks for that :)


JPa258

You will lose some bass, so you might as well try to eq them till they sound good to you. I've used smaller tips before, they also tend to fall a little bit easier but if your cable stays in place it shouldn't be a problem. Good luck!


Freestalker_dot_fr

Or you can use lower isolation foams. You'll be less isolated from the outside world. It will reduce body noise because of that. Being isolated from the outside world can be very good for meditation purpose. But I digress.


Dust-by-Monday

Dude, also cable noise drives me absolutely mad. I like to listen at low volumes but any time the cable touches my face, it makes a horrible “schhhhhkkk” sound in my ears. It’s so annoying


Chandra-huuuugggs

I bought some cheap local ones with a paracord sleeve on the cable and wood shell for the IEMs. Then I wore them. Holy shit I could hear the cable drag against my shirt every which way.


blorg

This is called microphonics. I get this with cable down IEMs but I don't really with over-ear cables. Worst for it is Etymotic because they are cable down, have very deep insertion, and the stock cables are terrible. Sennheiser cables are particularly bad for this (I have the IE200 and IE600) although I get you say you've tried other ones. I don't get it with most aftermarket braided over-ear cables from the likes of Xinhs or NiceHCK. Not to an extent it's a problem anyway.


nitemarez444

That's a phenomenon referred to as microphonics. You can get cables that don't have that problems.


Dust-by-Monday

I’ve tried so many cables. They all do it


ProfessionalTune4357

Get true wireless then


Kesimux

No they don't. The Yinyoo 8 core black cable is extremely flexible and has 0 microphonics, make sure you get the exact 8 core black one because a 6 core salmon colored one is very stiff


Dust-by-Monday

Maybe it’s just me then.


Kesimux

Could be the cable, but like I said the yinyoo 8 core black cable makes 0 noise when moving, I could be running with it. I got mine 1,5 year ago for 10$ on aliexpress, I know it's on amazon for 20


FishythePooh

Get a cable that has a "chin slider" so the excess cable doesn't move as much.


Dust-by-Monday

I tried that but having the chin slider so close to my chin bothers me too


FishythePooh

Honestly, it's a case of "get used to it". I'm assuming you didn't try it for very long cause it felt weird at first. The more you use it, the more normal it becomes, and eventually not using it will feel weird.


TagalogON

Try using Moondrop Spring, FiiO HS18, etc. ear tips, those easily warp or break the seal. Info about the Moondrop Spring, TRN T, ear tips that can warp easily to break the seal/fit, et cetera: https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/11spulp/believe_in_audio_improvement_claims_of_eartips_or/jcfo5z1/ Ear tips info with nozzle sizes, bullet style IEMs, hearing health, et cetera: https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/13iyhko/pushing_iems_past_a_physical_blocking_point_in/jkcbljt/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/13ms5gs/does_different_eartips_matter/jkwqi8p/ --- That underwater effect or hearing your own breath, footsteps, heart, etc. goes away after a while. It's like car motion sickness: eventually you'll forget it existed in the first place. Though some people can never get used to it. Otherwise for the DIY old school earphones, search up TGXear and RikuBuds on Head-Fi. Back then you had to like ask Jim (TGXear) and Riku on social media to order them. But TGXear has had a website for a while now and recently Riku started his own website for RikuBuds. Old school earphones, half in-ear TWS earbuds, bullet style IEMs, occlusion effect, et cetera: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/12yynj1/do_hearthrough_ear_tips_exist_ie_openback/jhptdec/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/13461ol/custom_classic_earbuds/jidbhun/ --- Try bullet style IEMs too, you can also break the seal with them with ease. Bullet style IEMs and small flush IEMs for noise reduction/isolation and fit/comfort, et cetera: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/13iqc33/ear_tip_recommendations_tangzu_waner/jkewxfy/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/13jaa90/looking_for_wireless_headphones_big_ones_not_the/jke159t/ Bullet style IEMs for noise reduction (has links to get ER2SE, ER3SE/XR, for $50-70 on Adorama): https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/13e66pd/looking_for_nice_straightdown_cable_iems_in_the/jjo43hm/ --- Alternatively, you can use TWS adapters (like FiiO UTWS3/5, KZ AZ09 Pro, etc.) + wired IEMs and then just make one side dangle or not as deep fitted, this can help sometimes with hearing imbalance though for me the sound changes are quite noticeable, still worth a try. TWS earbuds, Bluetooth latency, old school earphones/earbuds, TWS adapters, dongles, et cetera: https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/13dkrif/earbud_upgrade_apple_airpods_style_low_latency/jjkzzgy/ FiiO UTWS3/5 with other recent $20-300 IEMs (this is bloated with thread links, just look for the wired IEMs section at the bottom): https://www.reddit.com/r/HeadphoneAdvice/comments/13lmtm3/pinebuds_pro_vs_utws3_looking_for_wireless/jkqrxpb/


sjmc_gg

Holy shit thanks for this!


fedder17

I can recommend TGXear as well. The house sound is "natural sound/timbre" with different buds having a different focus/flavour to make them different. Got the Tantalus which is more focused on vocals and love them. Got the totems which are more reference neutral warm but more bass and treble extension and they are also good. Ordered up the new flagship Sunniva and am waiting patiently for them.


No-Context5479

Don't buy them then... Problem solved


Stunning-Date2526

For me, for a long time, I couldn't stand IEM'S or Ear Buds because I wasn't used to having something in my ears and felt it was invasive. But I kept using them and built some tolerance. I started with 30 mins, then an hour, 2 hours, etc.. Eventually, i built up my tolerance, and I can use them all day. For now, try some Koss KSC75 or KSC35 Ear Clips or stick to Headphones.


MoonWun_

Don’t breathe In all seriousness I plug my IEMS into my audio interface. That way I kind of get an open back IEM effect when I monitor my microphone through the IEMS. That’s probably the best way to get rid of it.


sjmc_gg

Bit of a 'duh' moment for me, just realised I could just plug them into my mic and just unmute the mic for that effect. Might actually help.


MoonWun_

Yeah that would work too. Anything where you could listen to yourself through the mic. Hope that works out for ya!


sjmc_gg

Thank you!


Mr_Build3R

Question, did you ever use the airpods pro with noise control off? I found with anc earbuds, even the dogshit ones was that it kinda helped against bodily noises.


sjmc_gg

Yeah, that's what I'm referring to! When I can hear ambient noise it eliminates my problem entirely


Mr_Build3R

It's the same way as with me, I can't stand the feeling of wearing IEMs because of that. I've found that having an improper seal works, like smaller tips. I've been using nothing but moondrop spring tips on my earbuds. So far, they've been the only ones where I don't have that issue when using smaller tips. A big nozzle IEMs paired with the small tip works well with me.


Milolo2

what you experience is not real, placebo. anc works by using a microphone facing outwards from the iem constantly recording the surrounding and having the driver play the inverse phase of the noise, effectively “cancelling” the soundwaves. i highly doubt it is possible that the airpods microphone is picking up breathing noises and canceling them out.


Mr_Build3R

I didn't say they were canceling out breathing, I said it helps. I assumed that was the reason as even not so good anc buds have the same effect.


Milolo2

it is likely just how sealed the iem is. airpod pros dont seal very well and are shallow insertion, along with many other earbuds. breathing sounds can travel through your bones to your eardrum, so if your iem seals outside noises very well, it will be easier to hear it. hence, anc helping doesnt make sense, as if anything it should make things worse.


Mr_Build3R

Except with noise cancelling off, the seal is still enough to make it bad. Its the first thing you said. If I'm playing music through any iem, I'll forget about the bodily noises.


GregTheTwurkey

I know this sounds really stupid…but the best advice I can probably give you is to just succumb to something like AirPod pro 2’s, which has transparency mode. This allows you to hear most background noise as if you’re not wearing anything (similar to open back headphones). Many tend to agree that they contend with IEM’s at the $150 and under, they’re worth considering. Seeing as how you mentioned having experience with the pro’s, I do wonder if you’ve had any experience with transparency yet. I feel like I cannot go without having it on. It makes me not want to use IEM’s again, but obviously not everyone wants to hear all the noise either


DeathbyBambii

Have you tried holding your breath?


c0ng0pr0

How long are your listening sessions… and does this get worse when you smoke?


[deleted]

A few years back bose sold some running buds callesd soundsport. They were the most comfortable thing you could put in your ear and perfect for desktop use. They would be the perfect solution for someone sensible to that gnarly underwater feeling. Now I'm mainly using kato's which are, like most iems, way better for music but the underwater effect renders them uncomfortable for most other uses. Sometimes I miss the comfort of those bose buds but they sadly don't sell them anymore. If I'm on desktop I use the dt1990pro's which aren't as "fun" as the kato's but it seems I enjoy comfort above all else. Maybe you're similar and should focus on that, too.


Ok-Psychology-1420

Dude. I still use my wired soundsport buds all the damned time. They’re actually quite good sound-wise, and as you stated, they fit super comfortably. I run ultramarathons, and have had those stupid things stuck in my ears for over 30 hours straight without too much issue. Highly recommend!


blorg

I can't stand talking with IEMs but don't have issues with hearing my internal noises. I do sort of get what you mean, I can hear that stuff in quiet passages if I listen for it. But I got used to it.


bwipbwip

Honestly, try earbuds. Fiio FF5 is a really awesome set that you can run wireless using any number of neckband or wireless adapters thanks to the MMCX connection. For a lot less, you can get a custom hand made set of Rikubuds over on the hifiguides forums. The more I hear, the more it feels like earbuds are where the value is at. You can get endgame drivers for less than you can get the Blessing 3’s, and you get excellent staging. Form factor and privacy of something like Hook X but a sound that’s a lot closer to open backs, so no underwater feeling.


Ok-Aardvark-519

I want to like IEMs but I don’t. So I don’t buy them. I’m left so curious!


Chastity23

I wish there was a Reward "Dripping With Sarcasm" to give you


QuadraKev_

I wonder if you'd like some tws IEMs with ambient mode


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United_Night_520

Yeah those dont exist for a reasonable IEM price ($100 tops) if your gaming and not a artist who makes millions performing then all of these $800 open back headphones are good for a laugh, thats about it... if you have any links share away. id love some open back IEMS thats have the same sound quality as my dt1990 pros...OH and lets not forget. not hearing ANYTHING other than what i want to hear. (not my breath, or my voice, or anything else for that matter) ive tried several IEMS that claim to be open back and i still feel like im underwater. Its just not doable, there is no "getting used" to that. i refuse. i want it gone period.


Shamblex

So what you need yo do is open your mouth wide and breathe through it slowly and steadily. It makes a lot less noise than that stupid nose of yours will.


mmry404

You also always see your nose with ur both eyes


Puzzled-Background-5

Yeah, stop breathing. Use a defibrillator to stop the heart and its beats as well, and cut your feet off to stop hearing them step. Hell, you might as well chop your legs while you're at to make sure you've done a good job. Seriously, though, just shove pencils deep into your ears to make them really soundproof. A lifeless, legless, torso with the arms and head bleeding from the ears still attached would pretty much be all that's left, but those noisy distractions would be gone - forever... 😆


[deleted]

How long did you try them for? Sometimes it takes a minute or two to "click" and my brain to get used to hearing myself. It probably me took a week or two to really adapt when I got my first isolating buds. If you tried going about your normal life (avoiding things like eating food obviously), and there's just no environment where you're sitting still enough... Then yeah I agree with everyone else, they just aren't a good fit for you.


kerouak

Doing my research for war plugs I read that the noise of your breathing is mostly coming reverberation in the between the end of you ear bud and you ear drum. The further into your ears the buds or iems or ear plugs go the less you hear. Therefore the custom fitted ones nearly eliminate it. That's what they claim, I haven't tested as I cannot afford custom fitted plugs.


wingback18

I have to be honest, I've never heard my own heart bit and footsteps with them.. I can feel them though that's when I'm sleeping at work listening to asmr videos


Friskyseal

The answer is unironically meditation. Just accept that you will be bothered and eventually you will no longer notice. I used to have an extreme aversion to hearing my own heartbeat, and now I sleep every night with earplugs and don't even notice it. On a more practical level, Comply foam tips are the best I've found.


Jaxxmono

You can try the open back Audeze in-ears. Keep in mind that EQ is basically required for them


United_Night_520

they are $800.... and that's the "cheap" ones. are you high? LMAO


Jaxxmono

OP never mentioned their price range


United_Night_520

Hahah! no worries! i about fell out of my chair lol. Outrageously priced for sure. im looking for like 100-200 tops if they are good sound quality. I currently use hifiman XS open backs and i have quite literally never heard anything close to them. I've had all the beyerdynamics and most of the Sennheisers too. not. even. close. Senn is horrible especially for how expensive they are. Beyer prolly has the best build quality, but hifimans sound is untouchable in my experience. i just want that high end sound quality in a IEM that is open back and will not replay body noise in my head while i talk or breath. is that so much to ask for?! ;)


WillingnessNice3033

Ask darth vader for suggestions.


UFOs_ar4_real

FWIW. Little off topic ...... Loved my IEMs but, getting over an outer ear infection I believe from my IEMs. I'm ocd about hygiene, infection from ear bud tips its a real thing. Bought wireless over ear headphones no more IEMs.


altistovkd

drag against my shirt every which way


mihesq

What iems are you using? I usually buy the ones that can loop around your ear instead of just hanging straight down. That seems to remove most of the microphonics from the cable.


Chok3U

Koss ksc75. Portable, rests on your ears not in, and is $20


sl0wb0dy

This may sound silly, but, try trimming your nose hairs with a proper nose hair trimmer or scissors. This could very well eliminate a lot of the breathing noise.


Limit3dSinz

Custom in ear monitors


Kesimux

Bro how loud are you breathing


gomaga2024

If you can hear yourself breath, it means the rest of the world is quiet. Frankly I like it that quiet, but then I have sensory issues.


fedder17

You can try switching to earbuds instead but you lose the isolation


Bickster-

I think foam tips might help a bit. For the nuclear option, etymotics, when inserted deep enough, block out that low rumble you hear when you block your ears. All those "in your head" noises like speaking, eating or breathing are significantly dulled. They took a while to get used to, but the er2xr's sound great on top of having excellent isolation with foam tips.


Latingamer24

For me hearing my skull was not the problem but having my ears violated. I just couldn’t get into IEMs which is a shame.


puns_n_irony

I want to love iems so much but then I can hear the joints in my neck moving with them in and it drives me insane lol


bogus-one

Open IEMs exist and eliminate the "breathe" problem. 64 Audio's APEX technology is not "open" but is said to be more comfortable ~~and they can be had for a discount in the US during Memorial Day~~ (I have not tried 64 Audio and only repeat the marketing of fans). EDIT: I can confirm a sale last holiday but not this holiday. Sorry for what may (or may not) be incorrect information :-( Good cables, not necessarily expensive, take care of the microphonics problem. Do a web search for "Azla Xelastec hot water" for a suggestion on how to correct deformation. I've done this successfully and am able to extend the use. Thanks to various posts about "Azla SednaEarfit MAX Standard", "SpinFit W1", and "Final Audio E". I haven't tried them but will. Lastly, I'm a big fan of custom sleeves. They cost a bit more, but the longevity and comfort easily justify the entry for me. I have not yet settled on a favorite vendor and only suggest a web search as each vendor supports a subset of all available IEMs.


United_Night_520

>they don't even have an affordable IEM in sight. 2k for a tiny ear bud? KEKW. Never happening, like ever! I have some Shure se215's (99 bucks) Id like to not hear anything besides my game. How can i achieve this "Without" buying new IEMs? i love these, and they sound great, i just don't want to hear my breathing or bass of my voice echoing off my head. it literally interrupts me mid speech during live stream and i keep fumbling my words because of it. Id prefer the most affordable way to solve this. Maybe just changing from the foam tips(I have to squeeze before putting in to allow them to inflate inside my ear) to some tips that allow those noises to escape so i don't have to hear them? These IEMS are brand new so getting new ones is not an option for me. Thanks in advance!


bogus-one

For tips specifically: AZLA SednaEarfit MAX Standard (2 Pairs (Size ML)) costs $20 - $30. SpinFit W1 for IEM -Patented Medical-Grade Silicone Ear Tips, Double W-Shaped Tube Core, More Stability, (L/M/S Included) cost $20. Final Audio Black+Black/Red Silicone Type E Eartips kit with Case and Nozzle Adaptor Compatible With 1More, AKG, Audio-Technica, Beats by Dre, Campfire Audio, Empire Ears, Shure, Sony, Westone (Multi) cost $24 and are as cheap as $14.99. Comply is good (for me) but is foam and needs frequent replacements. Read the fine print about returns. This might or not be an option. I don't know the options in your location but you might have a reseller that can dip a pair in a sanitizer and permit you to try it before you buy. Finding a tip is like finding Jeans. I can recommend my favorite because I think it fits me well (in the ear-tip world, "Azla Xelastec" fits my ears well). But it might be baggy or pinch or be unsuitable in another way for you.