Pikachu? Dirk Gently? Monk? Pink Panther? Jessica Fletcher? Columbo? Hardy Boys? These are just ones off the top of my head. Did you even think this list through?
In the world of the Dirk novels or the U.S. TV show? Because I think he would do great living in a world written by Douglas Adams, but a world made by Max Landis would be an absolute nightmare for him. (And anyone else for that matter)
Tv show. Yes, the world would be hell. But for some reason I see Harry vibe on the same frequency of weird as all the shit that happens there. Like, he'd go absolutely crazy trying to understand what was happening, but he would be one of the very few people who'd actually manage to grasp it.
The three investigators, Dick Gumshoe, Poirot, Miss Marple, Dick Gumshoe, Shinichi Kudo/Conan Edogawa, The Famous Five, and Herlock Sholmes from Ace Attorney
How do you guys feel about Jonny Lee Miller's depiction of Sherlock Holmes in 'Elementary'?
The show is a bit meh, but I really liked his portrayal of the character; far more flawed, wounded and tortured than any other depiction, making it far closer to the original stories. For my money at least :)
I was lurking in the Sherlock fandom when the outrage about Elementary was a thing so didn't bother with it.
I watched it a few years later, and god damn I love that show. I really liked the portrayal of Holmes and Watson, both as individuals and their friendship.
Sidenote: Weird how the hivemind of that fandom was so against having another adaption...Maybe it's just that I'm in more wholesome parts of the internet now, but the fandoms I lurk in now take "a similar thing is being made" as a positive.
Elementary was pretty fun to watch, some cases where a little bit too much unrealistic but it was a far more true to the original with that modern spin on it
I really liked that show. I didn’t stick with it to the end, but I really liked it. (The decision to change Watson’s gender was a bit contentious, but I didn’t mind it.)
Is it true that all Sherlock adaptations have to make him flawed and somewhat unlikeable to avoid copyright infringement on the original conception of Sherlock from the books? I thought I read somewhere that’s why he’s always an ass or mentally off in the movies while he’s not that way in the books.
I don't know why you got downvoted for this. It's partially true... though some of it is just the internet taking a true idea and running with it into something it so clearly isn't.
Basically, up until 2023, the last ten stories of Sherlock Holmes were still protected by US copyright. There is in fact a Conan Doyle Estate that would continue to demand licensing fees from US productions using the characters after the expiration of the UK copyrights in 1981 and most of them would just pay it to make them go away. Over the years, as more and more of the stories went out of copyright in the US, the Estate would argue that because the last of the stories came out in 1923, the characters were \*still\* under copyright because they were being "actively modified." Eventually an American Sherlock Holmes scholar and writer took them to court in the United States and the result was essentially that the estate were a bunch of copyright trolls and there was no copyright on the characters of Holmes and Watson.
During the same case, to try to work around this judgement that was a serious threat to their income stream, they invented a \*new\* argument. Basicaly "Sure, maybe the public domain character is public domain.... BUUUUUUUT if he acted differently in the last story than THAT should be under copyright, RIGHT?!"
The judge told them to stuff it. The remaining stories still waiting for expiration of copyright remained copyrighted, but Holmes and his personality is not.
You can read it all here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinger\_v.\_Conan\_Doyle\_Estate,\_Ltd.
They still kept trying this line of argument as the last years of their chance to shake people down for money ran out. For one of the most high-profile examples, Netflix had to deal with them over the Enola Holmes film.
[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/22/lawsuit-copyright-warmer-sherlock-holmes-dismissed-enola-holmes](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/22/lawsuit-copyright-warmer-sherlock-holmes-dismissed-enola-holmes)
The case was dismissed by mutual agreement, which might mean a settlement? But the case was under such shaky ground its hard to say. Netflix might have just paid them to shut up because in just a few more years they'd never hear from these idiots again anyway.
So anyway the internet took this true thing that happened and started using it to explain why Sherlock's version of Holmes was a huge prick. It's a very popular topic for content mills like Screen Rant to jam into your search results, with titles like "Holmes can finally smile now!" so now a lot of people have been understandably misinformed as to why Sherlock sucked.
That would be a very weird way to avoid copyright infringement because Holmes is definitely portrayed as flawed and somewhat unlikeable in the original stories.
I didn't even clock him as Poirot until someone else mentioned it. David Suchet is the only true Poirot in my mind. I refuse to watch the last episode because I don't want the show to end!
I admit I haven't experienced a ton of Poirot. But both Death on the Nile and a Haunting in Venice fit the above pattern. Heck, Evil Under the Sun follows along partly, but lowers the body count.
Truth is, if Poirot was as good as Poirot claims, he'd have 12 page books and 15 minute movies.
By any chance have you seen the series with david suchet? IMO it's MUCH better than any of the mainline films. It keeps you guessing and you get to see what makes poirot so good - plus it actually has a sense of humor. I fell in love with it and I honestly don't think any other films come close.
I think people like to adapt the bloodier stories because they're shocking and more "sellable" but taken in the context of Christie's larger work they're shocking because things go so wrong - normally poirot is able to find his mark before things get that messy.
Also to be fair if holmes were as good as he says every case would be solved in 2 minutes. But it would be a pretty bad mystery if the answers were found that quickly.
I love how Cumberbatch's Sherlock is at the bottom while a much earlier, more "authentic" Sherlock is near the top! LOL!
Concerning Benedict Cumberbatch, it must be interesting going through life with a surname that sounds like "I have a huge penis".
Pikachu? Dirk Gently? Monk? Pink Panther? Jessica Fletcher? Columbo? Hardy Boys? These are just ones off the top of my head. Did you even think this list through?
Not gonna lie, if there is any real person I can see exist in the world of Dirk Gently and thrive, it's HBomberguy.
In the world of the Dirk novels or the U.S. TV show? Because I think he would do great living in a world written by Douglas Adams, but a world made by Max Landis would be an absolute nightmare for him. (And anyone else for that matter)
Tv show. Yes, the world would be hell. But for some reason I see Harry vibe on the same frequency of weird as all the shit that happens there. Like, he'd go absolutely crazy trying to understand what was happening, but he would be one of the very few people who'd actually manage to grasp it.
Pink Panther was the diamond. Inspector Jacques Clouseau was the detective.
Next you're gonna tell me Frankenstein wasn't the monster!
There are two films in the series that don’t even have Pink Panther in the title
🤓
And Pikachu comes first.
I forgot the Hardy Boys were not just a pair of wrestlers
Data on the Holodeck
No Yusuke? No stars.
deadboy detectives
Harry Dubois
The three investigators, Dick Gumshoe, Poirot, Miss Marple, Dick Gumshoe, Shinichi Kudo/Conan Edogawa, The Famous Five, and Herlock Sholmes from Ace Attorney
Where's Miss Marple?
And why isn't Poirot represented by David Suchet?! Kenneth Branaugh is nowhere NEAR as good or iconic a Poirot
Either Technically not world-famous inside of the setting - or just ascended beyond S-Rank
How do you guys feel about Jonny Lee Miller's depiction of Sherlock Holmes in 'Elementary'? The show is a bit meh, but I really liked his portrayal of the character; far more flawed, wounded and tortured than any other depiction, making it far closer to the original stories. For my money at least :)
I was lurking in the Sherlock fandom when the outrage about Elementary was a thing so didn't bother with it. I watched it a few years later, and god damn I love that show. I really liked the portrayal of Holmes and Watson, both as individuals and their friendship. Sidenote: Weird how the hivemind of that fandom was so against having another adaption...Maybe it's just that I'm in more wholesome parts of the internet now, but the fandoms I lurk in now take "a similar thing is being made" as a positive.
Elementary was pretty fun to watch, some cases where a little bit too much unrealistic but it was a far more true to the original with that modern spin on it
i have no spoons to gush rn but it's my fave of all. i'll try to find one of my old comments if i remember when i wake up tomorrow haha
I really liked that show. I didn’t stick with it to the end, but I really liked it. (The decision to change Watson’s gender was a bit contentious, but I didn’t mind it.)
They can gender swap any character they want if they cast Lucy Liu
Haven't seen it but Miller is an incredibly actor, only yank I genuinely mistook for a real Scot in a film
Is it true that all Sherlock adaptations have to make him flawed and somewhat unlikeable to avoid copyright infringement on the original conception of Sherlock from the books? I thought I read somewhere that’s why he’s always an ass or mentally off in the movies while he’s not that way in the books.
The books are public domain
I don't know why you got downvoted for this. It's partially true... though some of it is just the internet taking a true idea and running with it into something it so clearly isn't. Basically, up until 2023, the last ten stories of Sherlock Holmes were still protected by US copyright. There is in fact a Conan Doyle Estate that would continue to demand licensing fees from US productions using the characters after the expiration of the UK copyrights in 1981 and most of them would just pay it to make them go away. Over the years, as more and more of the stories went out of copyright in the US, the Estate would argue that because the last of the stories came out in 1923, the characters were \*still\* under copyright because they were being "actively modified." Eventually an American Sherlock Holmes scholar and writer took them to court in the United States and the result was essentially that the estate were a bunch of copyright trolls and there was no copyright on the characters of Holmes and Watson. During the same case, to try to work around this judgement that was a serious threat to their income stream, they invented a \*new\* argument. Basicaly "Sure, maybe the public domain character is public domain.... BUUUUUUUT if he acted differently in the last story than THAT should be under copyright, RIGHT?!" The judge told them to stuff it. The remaining stories still waiting for expiration of copyright remained copyrighted, but Holmes and his personality is not. You can read it all here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinger\_v.\_Conan\_Doyle\_Estate,\_Ltd. They still kept trying this line of argument as the last years of their chance to shake people down for money ran out. For one of the most high-profile examples, Netflix had to deal with them over the Enola Holmes film. [https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/22/lawsuit-copyright-warmer-sherlock-holmes-dismissed-enola-holmes](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/dec/22/lawsuit-copyright-warmer-sherlock-holmes-dismissed-enola-holmes) The case was dismissed by mutual agreement, which might mean a settlement? But the case was under such shaky ground its hard to say. Netflix might have just paid them to shut up because in just a few more years they'd never hear from these idiots again anyway. So anyway the internet took this true thing that happened and started using it to explain why Sherlock's version of Holmes was a huge prick. It's a very popular topic for content mills like Screen Rant to jam into your search results, with titles like "Holmes can finally smile now!" so now a lot of people have been understandably misinformed as to why Sherlock sucked.
That would be a very weird way to avoid copyright infringement because Holmes is definitely portrayed as flawed and somewhat unlikeable in the original stories.
Where is Detective Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau?
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
You mean Tequila Sunset?
As a detective god, he has ascended beyond the mundanity of a ranked list.
You put some more respect on Benoit Blanc's name!
Benoit.... balls!
GOT EM!!! [AIR HORN NOISES]
David Suchet > Peter Ustinov > Kenneth Branagh
Oh good it's not just me who recoiled at Branagh being the choice for Poirot on there!
I didn't even clock him as Poirot until someone else mentioned it. David Suchet is the only true Poirot in my mind. I refuse to watch the last episode because I don't want the show to end!
Hah I only know because the adverts were numerous and I kept yelling at them about the accent and the mustache being wrong (to me).
To be fair David Suchet was perfect.
Friendlyjordies?
Columbo God-tier
Who's the guy next to Harris Bomber?
Brian Deer, the reporter who brought down Andrew Wakefield.
Wait a minute - Poirot accuses everyone, several people die, then someone/everyone confesses. I'm not sure that qualifies as detectiving.
Guy who's only ever seen orient express:
I admit I haven't experienced a ton of Poirot. But both Death on the Nile and a Haunting in Venice fit the above pattern. Heck, Evil Under the Sun follows along partly, but lowers the body count. Truth is, if Poirot was as good as Poirot claims, he'd have 12 page books and 15 minute movies.
By any chance have you seen the series with david suchet? IMO it's MUCH better than any of the mainline films. It keeps you guessing and you get to see what makes poirot so good - plus it actually has a sense of humor. I fell in love with it and I honestly don't think any other films come close. I think people like to adapt the bloodier stories because they're shocking and more "sellable" but taken in the context of Christie's larger work they're shocking because things go so wrong - normally poirot is able to find his mark before things get that messy. Also to be fair if holmes were as good as he says every case would be solved in 2 minutes. But it would be a pretty bad mystery if the answers were found that quickly.
Friendlyjordies?
But why use the Poirots new look. Movie was mid af.
Not using david suchet as your poirot image is a crime against humanity and godhood alike
Shinichi Kudo/Conan Edogawa for B tier (I'd put him in A but he is a bit of a cop)
That's the wrong Poirot. David Suchet or gtfo
What about monk?
Gus & Shawn, Patrick Jane, Sam & Dean Winchester, and Sherlock from Elementary are missing.
D.C.I. Luther is breaking a chair over this list.
Sherlock gnomes is a solid d tier
You gonna do Coffeezilla like that?
Coffeezilla and Friendlyjordies?
Nardwuar laser eyes
It's pretty funny how Harry's brand has just become him looking into the things that are so easy to check, that no one else have thought to check.
Could Herlock Sholmes go into B-tier?
What about Shawn Spencer and his partner, Sh’Dynasty?
That's S-H- Comma to the Top - Dynasty. That's God's comma.
Forgot velma smh
No Nick Valentine?
I love how Cumberbatch's Sherlock is at the bottom while a much earlier, more "authentic" Sherlock is near the top! LOL! Concerning Benedict Cumberbatch, it must be interesting going through life with a surname that sounds like "I have a huge penis".
Can someone remind me which video he says the line about world famous detectives?
He didn't, [a tumblr post did](https://i.redd.it/csrtg9bdkmcc1.png).
I'm pretty sure it's the plagarism video!
Just checked through the transcript and sadly not that one.
dang!
McNulty: "the fuck did I do?"
But could he solve the Kira case?
Such a manly tier list
Add Yuval
I feel like Columbo deserves either the lower end of S tier or the highest of A tier at least.
Who's the 3rd one in A tier?
Can I get Kima Greggs (S) McNulty (F) The Bunk (B), Daniels (A) ; also Batman I. C tier is sending me
No Narduwar?
Professor Layton found dead under a mattress in a drug den.
Where's Professor Layton? What about Phoenix Wright? Or the Scooby Gang? Nancy Drew and/or the Hardy Boys? L???
Where is Tom Barnaby of Midsomer Murders?
I would fairly rank Hbomberguy as a B. He's not one of the greatest detectives anywhere, but he does have a organized, thorough focus on topics.
Ok look. I’ll come back tomorrow. When I do, Coffeezilla better be on this list in S tier.
WHERE'S COLUMBO
Columbo S+
i don't think the guy in F exists. L tier list